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blackf0rk
05-08-2005, 08:55 AM
How many here use their number pad to enter their vehicle? I find it kind of pointless (other than locking your keys in your car) if you have the remot...

FordNut
05-08-2005, 09:00 AM
How many here use their number pad to enter their vehicle? I find it kind of pointless (other than locking your keys in your car) if you have the remot...
I always use mine. I don't carry the remote, it takes too much space in my pocket and I always hit buttons with it in my pocket.

SilverStreak
05-08-2005, 09:10 AM
I never use the keypad either, just the remote. I stuck the numbers in my wallet just in case though. :dunno:

Rick-n-Miami
05-08-2005, 09:15 AM
I only use it in an emergency. From past experience, if you use it constantly, the numbers start to wear leaving anyone who looks a nice patern of numbers. True, it doesn't give them the order, but they'll know which of the numbers to try.

LimoMerc
05-08-2005, 09:35 AM
Never, not even once. Are you thinking of shaveing?.

Bradley G
05-08-2005, 09:44 AM
All the time!Like Nut said ,keys take too much room in the pocketo.:D Are you aware you can change the code?

I put the wifesters Birthday in the memory.also can lock all the doors and open the trunk, if you already put the keys down or away.This feature has saved my AZZ many times.:P
Bradley G
Who says it best ? "God-a- love it"!

MERCMAN
05-08-2005, 09:45 AM
I always use mine. I don't carry the remote, it takes too much space in my pocket and I always hit buttons with it in my pocket.


^^^^^ what he said!!!!!!

MERCDADDY
05-08-2005, 09:48 AM
My son uses them all the time...I like that he knows the numbers and can get in the car if he needs to, especially in an emergency or if he gets lost. Plus he has a longer range than the remote!

Agent M79
05-08-2005, 09:49 AM
For daily use, I use the fob.

I use the keypad when I need something from the car but I am not taking my car with me. Like, fetch my sun glasses when we are taking the van.

So, probably 95% fob, 5% keypad.

I am glad it is there. I am glad I took the time to change and memorize the code because one day the door will close behind me, locked, and I will know before the echo of it closes fades that my keys are locked inside.

Bradley G
05-08-2005, 09:51 AM
Are you thinking of shaveing?.(Quote)
yeah! He is!, Two whole seconds in a quarter mile!:eek:
Sorry Jourdan, Did not mean to steal your:cheesed: Thunder!:D
Bradley G

Krytin
05-08-2005, 09:56 AM
I always use mine. I don't carry the remote, it takes too much space in my pocket and I always hit buttons with it in my pocket.Ditto that! I don't always carry my keys - the pad does come in handy.

ncmm
05-08-2005, 10:00 AM
I didn't get the numbers from the dealer and there wasn't a card in the manual.
They told me bring it back in and they'd find out what they are. I just never have yet. Even if I knew them I'd still use the remote most of the time.

blackf0rk
05-08-2005, 10:04 AM
I'm not going to shave the numbers off - I think it gives the car an extra 'expensive' look to it. :coolman:

I too like the numbers being there, though I hardly use them (once). I haven't changed my numbers, even though I know you can. I wasn't however, aware that you could open the trunk with the pad - that's cool :)

Thanks for all the input.


Oh, and Bradley - you didn't steal my thunder. You only added to it :P

MM03MOK
05-08-2005, 10:15 AM
You can't change the original number but you can program additional numbers. I use it only occasionally, when more convenient than digging out the key fob.

marauder307
05-08-2005, 10:20 AM
I do use mine somewhat regularly...although with the passing of my Coast Guard career, I probably won't be using it as much.

It's handy to be able to lock the keys (and the cellphone) in the car before going out on the boat; from personal experience, I can tell you that the key fob openers don't react well to being dunked in salt water. CG boatramps/offices/boathouses/etc. are usually secured enough that I don't worry about somebody slim-jimming their way into The Hulk, and it's just less for me to think about while underway. But my CG career ends on June 2nd; enlistment complete, and believe me I'm ready for it. So I may not need the door keypad as much anymore.

I'm sure some of the LEOs that traffic this board will feel about the same way, when it comes to being able to secure some of their less-needed stuff during watch...

HwyCruiser
05-08-2005, 10:38 AM
I use the keypad all lot when she's parked in the garage and I need to get in or access the trunk for something and I don't have the keys on me.

The "7+9" feature all lot to check that the doors are locked because I'm obsessive-compulsive like that. :rolleyes:

gpfarrell
05-08-2005, 10:50 AM
I'm of the 95% - 5% persuasion myself.

It's pretty old tech. My '91 SHO had it and I loved it. My '95 had a fob and the keypad, but the keypad was broken. Loved the fob, missed the keypad.

I had heard that Ford did away with the keypads, but then brought them back because golfers hate to carry their keys with them.

Beats me, but I'm glad to have both.

LVMarauder
05-08-2005, 11:01 AM
I find the keypad extremely useful. I always keep a spare key hidden inside my car so if I ever loose my keys while im outside of it I can always get in it and drive away.

dwasson
05-08-2005, 11:09 AM
I've never used it. I don't even know if it works.

Mikeenh
05-08-2005, 11:22 AM
I think it's a GREAT feature. Staying in motels in the winter, you can go out start the car & let it warm up while keeping it locked. My wife's car has the same code programmed into it as mine. Even though it shows there are 10 numbers on the pad, each key is just one.
I use the 7-8, 9-10 buttons to lock the car all the time. I also keep a key hidden inside. I know I can always get in even if I loose my keys AND drive away.

Gunslinger
05-08-2005, 11:53 AM
I always use mine. I don't carry the remote, it takes too much space in my pocket ...

Same for me

MikesMerc
05-08-2005, 11:54 AM
Never, not even once.

Same here :dunno:

PJR
05-08-2005, 11:55 AM
For those of you that purchased used and don't know your code, there should be a sheet of decals somewhere in the owners manual with the code printed on them. If not, take your MM to the local Ford/LM dealer. It takes about five minutes to read the code through the service port.

AzMarauder
05-08-2005, 12:47 PM
How many here use their number pad to enter their vehicle? I find it kind of pointless (other than locking your keys in your car) if you have the remot...
I use the keypad anytime my keys are not readily handy. Perhaps I have the keys in the car and I want to get in the trunk... and I am outside the car... (cleaning or working on the car)

Or I don't have the keys with me and I am putting something in the car but not going to drive it.

Or I don't feel like digging in my pocket for the keys and I'm just putting something in the car and relocking it.

AzMarauder
05-08-2005, 01:00 PM
I'm not going to shave the numbers off - I think it gives the car an extra 'expensive' look to it. :coolman:

I too like the numbers being there, though I hardly use them (once). I haven't changed my numbers, even though I know you can. I wasn't however, aware that you could open the trunk with the pad - that's cool :)

Thanks for all the input.


Oh, and Bradley - you didn't steal my thunder. You only added to it :P
You can open the trunk... unlock ALL the doorlocks... and lock the car from the keypad.

Bradley G
05-08-2005, 01:05 PM
I heard of a good reason to use keypad:

When its very cold out,If you stop for a short errand and the car is not fully warmed up.Your car continues to warm up and so do the seats:D (your results may vary):rolleyes:
That was huge motivator when I purc,... Oh who am I kidding The warm seats are awsome,One glimps of the car and I was done:help:
Bradley G

MarauderMark
05-08-2005, 01:06 PM
Since my car has to be warmed up before i can get into boost i get in start it up lock the doors and go into the house until ready then use the key pad to get back in.. :D
Also i use it to get into the trunk as well .Dial in the code then hit #5 afterwards and up pops the trunkie.. :cool:

Bradley G
05-08-2005, 02:02 PM
Hoping you get a chance to use keypad before that!:o

Bradley G


Since my car has to be warmed up before i can get into boost i get in start it up lock the doors and go into the house until ready then use the key pad to get back in.. :D

SergntMac
05-08-2005, 02:08 PM
Since my car has to be warmed up before i can get into boost i get in start it up lock the doors and go into the house until ready then use the key pad to get back in.. :D
You, my friend, are a candidate for a remote start!

Mike Poore
05-08-2005, 02:16 PM
How many here use their number pad to enter their vehicle? I find it kind of pointless (other than locking your keys in your car) if you have the remot...
I use mine from time to time, and find it to be a nice insurance policy. It's funny, because I always laugh at those stupid skits from GM trying to sell us their Onstar program, and of course, car to go with it. Well, I wonder, if the keys are locked in the car, how in the hell did you manage to contact the Onstar dude? Not to mention they, or an ever more intrusive Government, can track your every move. That little keypad's all the help I need, thank you very much.;)

MERCMAN
05-08-2005, 02:43 PM
On the same note,,, has anyone ever used the key to unlock the door? I have used it only once when the battery went down. I also have never used the key to open the trunk(I have a God's head sticker over the keyhole).

fastblackmerc
05-08-2005, 03:14 PM
For those of you that purchased used and don't know your code, there should be a sheet of decals somewhere in the owners manual with the code printed on them. If not, take your MM to the local Ford/LM dealer. It takes about five minutes to read the code through the service port.
On older L&M's (mid 70's to mid 80's) the factory code was on a sticker on the controller in the trunk. I'll have to check mine. I use the keypad all the time.

Agent M79
05-08-2005, 04:01 PM
On the same note,,, has anyone ever used the key to unlock the door? I have used it only once when the battery went down. I also have never used the key to open the trunk(I have a God's head sticker over the keyhole).
Only for maintenance purposes. A couple of times a year, a little light oil in the locks and work it around with the key. Just in case the battery goes (in the car or the fob).

Bradley G
05-08-2005, 04:02 PM
Yeah they did put them in several locations over the years,recently they don't put the code on a sticker except for right on the module itself.There again there are several locations for this too.

Bradley g

jgc61sr2002
05-08-2005, 04:09 PM
I have never used it, but I think it is a useful feature. :)

RoyLPita
05-08-2005, 05:04 PM
My 2 previous '92 GMLSHPPs had the pad but no remotes (92 was the 1st year for the pad- 93 got remotes, too). When my ship comes in, I'll probably resort to using the pad (old habits will die hard).

CBT
05-08-2005, 06:17 PM
Have never used the pad, don't know what the code is, have never used the key to open anything. Call me lazy.

LCSO34
05-08-2005, 06:18 PM
I didn't get the numbers from the dealer and there wasn't a card in the manual.
They told me bring it back in and they'd find out what they are. I just never have yet. Even if I knew them I'd still use the remote most of the time.
My numbers were on a sticker thats on the right hinge of the trunk. Red numbers on white sticker. I don't know if thats where they came because I bought the car used.

FordNut
05-08-2005, 06:28 PM
My numbers were on a sticker thats on the right hinge of the trunk. Red numbers on white sticker. I don't know if thats where they came because I bought the car used.
Somebody put it there. I bought both of mine brand new and the stickers came with the owners manual. All the older cars had the sticker on the passenger side trunk hinge, so that's where I put one. I imagine the original owner or selling dealer put the sticker there on your car.

JFB
05-08-2005, 06:32 PM
I have a friend with a Expedition that cut off his key so it is flush with the ignition switch when inserted. He just leaves in in all the time. You can't even see it. By using the keypad, he never has to worry about keys.

JACook
05-08-2005, 10:05 PM
How many here use their number pad to enter their vehicle? I find it kind of pointless (other than locking your keys in your car) if you have the remot...
I pretty much always use mine, but only to _lock_ the doors. I find the 7+9 buttons are much more
convenient to use than either the inside switch, or the fob. For entry, I pretty much always use the fob.
But I like that I _can_ use the keypad to get in if I need to...

LordVader
05-09-2005, 12:24 PM
:cool: Seldom do I use the keypad, but it is nice to have in case the keys/fob are left in the car by accident (not so much me, as the Mrs.) I have changed the number and it was a typical lock, unlock, turn around three times, hop on 1 foot kind of thing. Glad to have the option.

SouLRioT
05-09-2005, 12:37 PM
I usally use the key pad to get to the trunk if needed when I'm not going somewhere. Which puts me around the 95%-5% crowd. A few times I'll purposely leave my keys in the car knowing I have the key pad. Rarely do I every use the key in the door or trunk. I think I've tried to open the passenger side door with a key more than the drivers side. The first time, to my surprise, I realized there wasnt a key hole there.

MaLo03
05-09-2005, 01:06 PM
hmmm,
thats what the numbers are for?
:stupid: yeah, must of ment me. duh

rocknrod
05-09-2005, 03:58 PM
Yep, Iv'e used mine on both my previous Crown Vic and my wifes F150. Had to call her from work once (to get the code) cause I locked the keys in the car.:cry:

Blackened300a
05-09-2005, 05:47 PM
I have the little Sticker on my Right hinge of my trunk with the Keypad number and I use it once and a while. I like the fact that if I leave something in my car I can just walk out without looking for my keys and open the car. However on a daily Basis its mostly the Key FOB

Mike Poore
05-09-2005, 06:00 PM
... The first time, to my surprise, I realized there wasnt a key hole there.
:eek: What, no key hole? That's a hoot, I never noticed, and never tried using the key to get in, the front, or trunk. I guess it's a good idea to keep 'em lubed and functioning, just in case. ;)

Bradley G
05-09-2005, 06:20 PM
As A Salesman for FMC many years,I was going over a new car delivery with the Luckey new owner.They asked me why no keyhole on passenger side?

I was not aware that this was deleted from standard equiptment.
Imagine my embarrasment.:o
Bradley G
Probably got blasted on the delivery survey!:rolleyes:

:eek: What, no key hole? That's a hoot, I never noticed, and never tried using the key to get in, the front, or trunk. I guess it's a good idea to keep 'em lubed and functioning, just in case. ;)

ADE 1000
05-09-2005, 06:30 PM
I use mine regularily. I have always found it to be a usefull feature on Ford products.

Sully008
05-09-2005, 06:31 PM
I noticed that there was no keyhole on the passenger side as well. I like that 'cause some fool tried punching in the lock on my Taurus one day to steal something. :mad2: Luckily my alarm scared him away.

The only time I use the keypad is if I take my keys with me and leave the car at home. I only have one remote for the alarm and if anyone needs to move my car, I just lock the doors with the keypad and not arm the aftermarket alarm. So, I'm 98% remote, 2% keypad.

dwasson
05-09-2005, 07:18 PM
I think I've tried to open the passenger side door with a key more than the drivers side. The first time, to my surprise, I realized there wasnt a key hole there.

I' ve seen this in a lot of cars. Not in basic level cars but in mostly more upscale cars. Surprisingly, it is only the US car makers that seem to do this. I don't think that I've seen any imports without a passenger side keyhole.

It probably saves Ford 18 cents per car. One more reason the US car industry is dying.

jgc61sr2002
05-09-2005, 07:38 PM
Dan - I agree FMC will do anything to save a buck. With the remote I guess it is unecessary.

00 Aggie
05-09-2005, 07:38 PM
I use both the key fob and the keypad.

Vortex
05-09-2005, 07:41 PM
I wish that ugly keypad was gone.

Bradley G
05-09-2005, 07:45 PM
The key pad gets way better looking if you are in BFI and lock your keys in the car.:P

Bradley G


I wish that ugly keypad was gone.

MaLo03
05-09-2005, 07:47 PM
I have the little Sticker on my Right hinge of my trunk with the Keypad number and I use it once and a while. I like the fact that if I leave something in my car I can just walk out without looking for my keys and open the car. However on a daily Basis its mostly the Key FOBI've allways wondered what those numbers were for. :confused:
Man im really out of touch :eek:

00 Aggie
05-09-2005, 08:11 PM
I did notice the other day, that the old (before the last body change) Eddie Bauer Explorers had a painted cover that goes over the keypad (the pad looks the same), I haven't had any luck finding a part # though.

Johnman
05-09-2005, 08:17 PM
I think it's a great thing-It's peace of mind and no more carrying around those little plastic spare key cards in my wallet. Apparently Ford copywrited the technology which is why no one else has it. I use it often when I want to get something out of my car and don't have my keys with me, or I'm going into a store and just don't want to take my bulky collection of keys with me. BTW, I'll bet most of us could count on one hand the number of times we've opened up a passenger side door with a key when having a remote. I've never even used the key on the driver's side door of my Marauder, not once. So who needs it on the passenger side?

Bradley G
05-11-2005, 04:56 AM
I'll bet most of us could count on one hand the number of times we've opened up a passenger side door with a key (quote)
You got me thier!:P
Bradley G

FordNut
05-11-2005, 06:00 AM
I'll bet most of us could count on one hand the number of times we've opened up a passenger side door with a key (quote)
You got me thier!:P
Bradley G
Well, since I don't carry the remote I would likely use mine occasionally when trying to be a gentleman and open the door for a lady. The keyhole and keypad are both on the driver side, so it's a bit more difficult to unlock then go around and open the door. Oh well, since I'm married anyway...

ckadiddle
05-11-2005, 06:42 AM
I have a habit of using the keypad to lock the doors when I exit the car. Easier for me to see than those itty bitty buttons on the fob.

tbore007
05-11-2005, 01:00 PM
iv stopped using mine since i had the alarm installed, alarm goes off as soon as you enter the first number, but goes off when the full code is entered. i almost always use the key to open the trunk, except if its dark or im in a rush, [dont want to make a scratch]. my wifes 91 sable has the key pad, and since iv showed her how to use it, and theres no key fob, thats all she uses..

1stMerc
05-11-2005, 08:36 PM
I've had mine all of 4 months and have yet to use the key pad. Put the dealer sticker over the keyhole for the trunk. My brother pointed out their wasn't a key hole for the passenger side, always use the key fob for entering.

FordNut
87 Kawasaki ZL1000 Eliminator

Fordnut you lucky dog, you got a Kawasaki Elimninator

FordNut
05-11-2005, 08:56 PM
FordNut
87 Kawasaki ZL1000 Eliminator

Fordnut you lucky dog, you got a Kawasaki Elimninator
It's a blast, needs work right now. Wish I could get the Marauder to accelerate like that!

423REED
05-11-2005, 10:36 PM
How many here use their number pad to enter their vehicle? I find it kind of pointless (other than locking your keys in your car) if you have the remot...
The "Keyless Entry System" (that is the correct, original name) was originally developed and patented by Ford way back in the late sixties or early seventies. The patents have long since run out, so you see the concept on a number of cars and trucks. My Marauder is my 5th Ford product with the system. I must confess that I like it a lot, and I use it daily. I use it to lock the doors, because I get tired of the horn honk when using the remote lock. I use it when I need to get into my wife's Taurus SHO and switch my grand daughter's booster seat. I use it when I need to get into the car and I don't have my key with me. Did you know that you can program up to three different unlock cods in the newer versions? Yes, I like it a lot! This was developed about the same time Ford also patented the "Fingertip Speed Control" that was mounted on the steering wheel. Now you see that on almost every car (plus air conditioning and radio controls, too). The domestic car makers had many better ideas years ago.

Another better idea from Ford was the "Tilt-A-Way" steering column in the sixties. That was Ford's baby! It would tilt and move off towards the center of the car, in order to it make it easier to get in and get out. It disappeared when the feds passed new steering column crush regulations.
JIM
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2004 MARAUDER 300A - DTR
1994 TAURUS SHO - DK GREEN

vegasmarauder
05-11-2005, 11:01 PM
Hmm, I like the idea of locking the key in the car and using the keypad to open it..I sure could have used it all the times I went to the nudist colony...You have no idea how hard it was hiding that big key without clothes...ouch!. (Just kidding)...I use mine a lot..to lock and unlock it. I have the Ford alarm kit installed. It has a feature that lets you have a 30 second delay before going off. This is to allow the door keypad to turn off the alarm. It works great....

Here's a Ford "OnStar" story. My 78-year-old mom called me frantic one day saying her keys had fallen out of her purse when she got out of her Lincoln Town Car and now she had a full shopping cart of food and was locked out. She wanted me to come down with a spare set of keys and open it for her. I told her to just use the keypad on the door. She gave me a "Nevermind" and hung up.......

rookie1
05-12-2005, 05:03 AM
I use mine everytime I go golfing. I just lock the keys in the car under the front seat so I never have to worry about them on the course......or off the course after we're done and I've tipped back a few.

wesman
05-12-2005, 06:30 AM
I use mine when I am dropping off the car for my not so local shop to work on. I wait till the traffic dies down, and then leave it for them overnight with the keys locked inside. They ususally give me a beater to drive overnight. Really handy to have, cause I don't like handing out spare keys for my car.

69 Resto-Mod CP
05-14-2005, 09:19 PM
So where is the keyless entry module at in these cars? I need to get my # but I don't feel like going to the dealer..... I know its on the actual mod.

RoyLPita
05-15-2005, 06:04 AM
So where is the keyless entry module at in these cars? I need to get my # but I don't feel like going to the dealer..... I know its on the actual mod.

There are a few places where the 5 digit code can be accessed. One can be on one of the trunk hinges. Another can be on a seperate card in the owner's manual in the glove box. And the other is on the module that is located under the driver door panel. Hope this info helps.

ahess77
05-15-2005, 12:42 PM
I' ve seen this in a lot of cars. Not in basic level cars but in mostly more upscale cars. Surprisingly, it is only the US car makers that seem to do this. I don't think that I've seen any imports without a passenger side keyhole.

It probably saves Ford 18 cents per car. One more reason the US car industry is dying.

It does save 4 to 7 bucks per car not to have the passenger side key cylinder and associated assembly time.

Now for the interesting part, on vehicles that are exported to right-hand drive countries (such as Japan, Australia, UK, and some other silly islands) from the United States, the key cylinder is still on the left side door. So the driver's door doesn't have the key cylinder, only the passenger's door. And we wonder why the Japanese won't buy our cars!

de minimus
05-15-2005, 01:33 PM
I for one love the keyless entry. I recently was on a bit of a roadtrip and at the 17 hour mark, which was about 1:00 a.m. I pulled into one of the rest stops off of I-5. As I shut the door I had that sickening feeling remembering that the keys were still in the ignition. After a minute of swearing I remembered the keyless entry which I had programmed when I bought the car but had never used.

I''m all in favour of any gadget that spares me from myself.

Captain Steve
05-15-2005, 05:18 PM
I started locking my keys in my car when I go out dancing. The keyless entry makes it easy to get back in and my keys tend to dig into my thigh if I keep them in my pants pocket.

Sactown
05-16-2005, 06:23 AM
I use the keypad often. Wish it was on the mustang.

STLThunder
05-16-2005, 02:10 PM
I started locking my keys in my car when I go out dancing. The keyless entry makes it easy to get back in and my keys tend to dig into my thigh if I keep them in my pants pocket.

How tight are your pants :lol: