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jaywish
05-11-2005, 02:51 PM
Hi All,

I saw this in the Gannet group newspaper today.

http://counteractrust.com/

It looks interesting. The website sale price for the premium auto unit is $300.

Could I tell if this is the best thing since Herny Ford or a total ripoff? No I can not. I'm no engineer.

I know that the other systems for buried or submirged objects work but you have to read this for yourself.

Sure would be nice to slow that rust down.

Can you imagine keeping a car for maybe 20 years, rust free? And still drive it fairly regularly.

Jay

Bluerauder
05-11-2005, 03:39 PM
Truth is Stranger than Fiction .... now we have Electronic Rust. Was was wrong with the good old metallic kinda?? :rofl: Seems everything is going digital. :rolleyes:

UAW 588
05-11-2005, 03:40 PM
Sounds like a rip off to me. Most or all new to late model cars have been E-coated at the factory. By meaning E-coating is to dip the whole body in sheet metal in a tank of primer, that has been electically charged. End result is every part of the body is sealed,baked, and ready for paint. Besides the sheet metal today is chemically treated at the steel mills. Just my autoworker 2 cents.

dwasson
05-11-2005, 03:52 PM
On bare metal (or 70s tech cars) it would make sense. Modern metalurgy would make it redundant.

QWK SVT
05-11-2005, 07:48 PM
Hi All,

I saw this in the Gannet group newspaper today.

http://counteractrust.com/

It looks interesting. The website sale price for the premium auto unit is $300.

Could I tell if this is the best thing since Herny Ford or a total ripoff? No I can not. I'm no engineer.

I know that the other systems for buried or submirged objects work but you have to read this for yourself.

Sure would be nice to slow that rust down.

Can you imagine keeping a car for maybe 20 years, rust free? And still drive it fairly regularly.

Jay
Jay, don't walk... Run!:run:

:grad:
Cathodic protection is a technique to control the corrosion of a metal surface by making that surface the cathode of an electrochemical cell. It is a method used to protect metal structures - most commonly used to protect steel water and fuel pipelines and tanks, steel pier piles, ships, and offshore oil platforms - from corrosion.

Notice something similar in all the above? They're all submerged - not out in the open air. The technology needs this, to work. Protecting cars and trucks with this technology is not technically feasible, although there are several companies marketing this BS. I won't link to them, but there are plenty of sites selling this stuff. :bs:

They've got a patent, huh? Such systems frequently appear to be protected by a patent and they have all been endorsed by "university tests" or "independent engineers". Only the patent is never listed and details of the university or the "independent engineers" are never mentioned. Nor is there a warranty. Funny that. But wait - Speedchannel's"Two Guys Garage" talked about this product! Well, there you go. They must be good. It's not like the TV show is paid for by sponsers, trying to promote a product through mass media.

Besides, most cars use galvanized (zinc-coated) steel frames and panels, now (notice some of the testimonials even say "galvanized" in them). Unprotected steel forms a layer of iron oxide, which is permeable to air and water and allows corrosion to continue underneath. However, zinc oxide (produced on the surface of zinc-protected objects) is impermeable. As long as the zinc and zinc oxide layers are undisturbed (i.e. not sc***** or sanded off), the steel underneath will not rust. Really small scratches, where the steel is exposed will actually get recovered by zinc, as the zinc from the surrounding area will dissolve and be deposited on the steel.

If you want to learn more about these devices, google "RustEvader" You'll find plenty of information, not exactly praising this stuff...

Donny Carlson
05-11-2005, 08:22 PM
I was going to work in some kind of reference to "electrodes to testicles" and this device, and came across something even funnier.

Type "electrodes to testicles" in Google (leave off the quotes)

click on "images"

There's only one. :o

jaywish
05-12-2005, 08:15 AM
I was going to work in some kind of reference to "electrodes to testicles" and this device, and came across something even funnier.

Type "electrodes to testicles" in Google (leave off the quotes)

click on "images"

There's only one. :o

Donny,

I'm truly afraid to google that image.

Jay

jaywish
05-12-2005, 08:29 AM
I had a great 93 GM and I took very good care of that car. Avoided most winters. Both fenders rusted out. A common panther problem. One quarter also deceloped rot. Additionally the car had some rust underneath on individual components.

This was at 11 years old.

Given, this is not nearly as bad as the cars made in earlier decades. The new cars still rot, but generally more slowly.

Also some of us also have other older cars.

I will look at some of the other suggested sites.

Thanks,
Jay