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Architect
05-23-2005, 08:30 AM
:confused: What is a clear bra?...I've seen it mentioned several times...
Walt. (Architect)
Rider90
05-23-2005, 08:32 AM
Something she needs to wear more often... :eek:
blackf0rk
05-23-2005, 09:07 AM
I think it's in reference to clear transfer-type decals you can place on the front of your car. They're specifically made for the car and they go on just like transfer-decals. They come in peices made for each area of the car.
I can't see a regular bra made from clear plastic - that would look gawd-awful-fugly! ICK :P
:shake:
00 Aggie
05-23-2005, 05:55 PM
I have it on my Cobra and will have the MM done next week. I'll post some pics.
N40GL
05-23-2005, 06:18 PM
Here's where I got mine...
http://www.xpel.com/
SergntMac
05-23-2005, 07:05 PM
Saran wrap...
IMHO, save your money. Save your time, and save your effort too.
So, this stuff is supposed to protect your paint by minimizing damage from road travel, mostly bugs, but sometimes chunky dirt, grease, and possibly pea-size gravel. Okay, I get this. But, I have to ask...What does it cost you to apply this profolactic, and enjoy it's benefits? I don't mean money, rather paint damage from the adhesion of the protective film?
If this stuff is stuck to the clearcoat, and it stays stuck there for...ummm...Let's say four years? What's left underneath it? Does this Saran wrap with extra glue peel off once it yellows, or, has taken enough hits to look worse than paint/clearcoat would look if left unprotected?
Something makes this clear wrap stuff stick to our painted/clearcoated surfaces, and IMHO, what ever that glue is, it will cause as much damage to the surface it adheres to, simply because it's glue and this is how glue works.
I suggest to y'all that the bugs and chunky road dirt will cause as much (if not less) damage to the same areas in the same time frame. Moreover, we can buy this clear bra stuff for the nose of the car, but what about the roof just above the windshield? I find as much wasted bug crap here, as I do around my fog lamps. Think about this?
IMHO, if you're worried about this (and obviously I am not), buy an appropriate bra. At least you can pull a bra off at will, dry it out, clean it inside and out, and clean the paint/clearcoat parked underneath it.
Paint/clearcoat needs air to oxydize at it's planned rate. Oxydation is normal, expected, and part of the protective process in it's own way. Applying this temporary profolactic has temporary benefit when used as a "raincoat" in bad weather. But, seal off the expected oxydation, and the paint/clearcoat will suffer more from your protection, than it would from exposure to normal hazzard.
If I cared more, I would buy one myself, and use it for long distance OTR trips, where anything can happen. Hell, I got gobs of TAR all over my Megs tips this past weekend on my OTR drive to Ohio. I have no idea where I collected this, so, (and obviously) I had no warning beforehand. It's a cleaning job, yes, but one I will enjoy because my tips will visually rock when I'm done.
If there was some kind of sleeve, or, profolactic for my Megs tips, I wouldn't have to work to keep my MM tips clean. But, not having to work at keeping my MM clean feels like cheating too, I own it. I drive it. I drive it everywhere I want to go, and everywhere it can take me, without heasitation about what any OTR drive will do to my MM. Am I wearing it out? You bet. Nonetheless, this means I must maintain it, keep it clean, or, admit that I'm just faking ownership.
Or, I could cover the whole car with Saran wrap, and just peel off my need to wash, wax, and buff my MM...
Ummm, just my .02c, K? Y'all do what you want?
Donny Carlson
05-23-2005, 08:55 PM
IMHO, if you're worried about this (and obviously I am not), buy an appropriate bra. At least you can pull a bra off at will, dry it out, clean it inside and out, and clean the paint/clearcoat parked underneath it.
I gave this exact same advice to my ex wife once.
AzMarauder
05-23-2005, 08:57 PM
:confused: What is a clear bra?...I've seen it mentioned several times...
Walt. (Architect)
I don't really care EXACTLY what it is....
I support the idea on multiple levels !
:banana:
Joe Walsh
05-23-2005, 09:08 PM
:lol: :rofl: :rofl:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I gave this exact same advice to my ex wife once.
P.S. "CLEAR BRA"....
Sounds like a GREAT idea for Pam Anderson! :drool:
Architect
05-24-2005, 06:53 AM
Ok, Ok let's forget I asked....:D
Thanks for the information...
Walt. (Architect)
Johnman
05-24-2005, 07:50 PM
Saran wrap...
IMHO, save your money. Save your time, and save your effort too.
So, this stuff is supposed to protect your paint by minimizing damage from road travel, mostly bugs, but sometimes chunky dirt, grease, and possibly pea-size gravel. Okay, I get this. But, I have to ask...What does it cost you to apply this profolactic, and enjoy it's benefits? I don't mean money, rather paint damage from the adhesion of the protective film?
If this stuff is stuck to the clearcoat, and it stays stuck there for...ummm...Let's say four years? What's left underneath it? Does this Saran wrap with extra glue peel off once it yellows, or, has taken enough hits to look worse than paint/clearcoat would look if left unprotected?
Something makes this clear wrap stuff stick to our painted/clearcoated surfaces, and IMHO, what ever that glue is, it will cause as much damage to the surface it adheres to, simply because it's glue and this is how glue works.
I suggest to y'all that the bugs and chunky road dirt will cause as much (if not less) damage to the same areas in the same time frame. Moreover, we can buy this clear bra stuff for the nose of the car, but what about the roof just above the windshield? I find as much wasted bug crap here, as I do around my fog lamps. Think about this?
IMHO, if you're worried about this (and obviously I am not), buy an appropriate bra. At least you can pull a bra off at will, dry it out, clean it inside and out, and clean the paint/clearcoat parked underneath it.
Paint/clearcoat needs air to oxydize at it's planned rate. Oxydation is normal, expected, and part of the protective process in it's own way. Applying this temporary profolactic has temporary benefit when used as a "raincoat" in bad weather. But, seal off the expected oxydation, and the paint/clearcoat will suffer more from your protection, than it would from exposure to normal hazzard.
If I cared more, I would buy one myself, and use it for long distance OTR trips, where anything can happen. Hell, I got gobs of TAR all over my Megs tips this past weekend on my OTR drive to Ohio. I have no idea where I collected this, so, (and obviously) I had no warning beforehand. It's a cleaning job, yes, but one I will enjoy because my tips will visually rock when I'm done.
If there was some kind of sleeve, or, profolactic for my Megs tips, I wouldn't have to work to keep my MM tips clean. But, not having to work at keeping my MM clean feels like cheating too, I own it. I drive it. I drive it everywhere I want to go, and everywhere it can take me, without heasitation about what any OTR drive will do to my MM. Am I wearing it out? You bet. Nonetheless, this means I must maintain it, keep it clean, or, admit that I'm just faking ownership.
Or, I could cover the whole car with Saran wrap, and just peel off my need to wash, wax, and buff my MM...
Ummm, just my .02c, K? Y'all do what you want?
This protective clear coat is supposed to be a physical barrier against stone chips, not a preventative against bugs or "chunky dirt". You still have to clean it just like you do any other part of the car. I think long-term color change would be minimal, since it does not block sunlight. What it is is a clearcoat which does not chip. And it is reverseable. I have had it on my car for close to two years and I have been very happy with it. Total peace of mind on the highway and no paint chips in all this time.I have no financial interest, I'm just a customer and I will admit it borders on being over-priced. I have had regular bras and they are a PITA-such as you have to take them off after it rains so the moisture doesn't damage the paint. It's expensive, but worth it to me. I don't know why Sergentmac is so vehemently against it. It's just another new option in car protection.
N40GL
05-25-2005, 06:13 AM
I love mine and think it's a great idea! One of the best things I ever put on a car. As for paint issues - I think $1K will certainly cover my deductible.
Here's what the web site says:
X-Pel Clear Bra Paint Protection Products
A revolution in the automotive world
“Perhaps the best product you have never seen...” --Motor Trend Magazine
Our Paint Protection Products are made from 3M Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film which is a rugged eight mil (.008") clear Urethane plastic employing a clear-coat finish for maximum shine. This durable material has been used successfully for years by the military, various auto manufacturers, and NASCAR race teams in rock chip prone areas with incredible results. Never before has a product been invented that provides so much protection with such low visibility.
Our products are so strong that not only are they guaranteed not to yellow, crack or peel for 5 years after installation, they are also covered by an unprecedented 5-year $1,000 Paint Protection Warranty against damage to your vehicle's finish.
Mike Poore
05-25-2005, 06:16 AM
:confused: What is a clear bra?...I've seen it mentioned several times...
Walt. (Architect)
There's a booth at the Ford Nationals at Carlisle June 3-5. 00 Aggie knows about it. It's professionally applied clear stuff specifically cut to fit your application, and is nearly invisible. ;)
fastblackmerc
05-25-2005, 07:35 AM
There's a booth at the Ford Nationals at Carlisle June 3-5. 00 Aggie knows about it. It's professionally applied clear stuff specifically cut to fit your application, and is nearly invisible. ;)
I had the clear bra installed within a month after I bought my MM. IMHO it's worth the money to get it installed. I've had the "normal" bras on all my cars and they are a PITA to keep clean and take off everytime it rains. You can do anything to the clear bra that you would or could to the paint on the car.
Just my $.02................
BTW. your installer can cover the entire car if you wanted to (and have the $$'s to do it). The kit I had installed covered the front of the car and the rearview mirrors. I'm going to have the top of the rear bumper covered also. And there is a kit for all the lights in the front of the MM including the fogs. $100.00 installed (much thicker plastic, 8mm I think). The best thing is most insurance companies will pay to have it reinstalled if you are in an accident.
SergntMac
05-25-2005, 07:37 AM
I don't know why Sergentmac is so vehemently against it. It's just another new option in car protection.
It's an option, yes. I'm not sold on it's "protection" and my rationale is clearly stated. Even though you quoted me, apparently you didn't absorb my concern. I'm not "vehemently" against anything new, Lord knows I've taken many, many chances exploring new stuff for the MM. However, this is new technology and everything new should be examined for shortcomings. I see problems with this mod, and I am not overwhelmed by a promise of a guarantee, that's all. I'm just playing advocate exploring a not so positive side of this mod that raises my concern. In the end, it's your car, please enjoy the experience of ownership in every way you wish.
Johnman
05-25-2005, 08:17 PM
It's an option, yes. I'm not sold on it's "protection" and my rationale is clearly stated. Even though you quoted me, apparently you didn't absorb my concern. I'm not "vehemently" against anything new, Lord knows I've taken many, many chances exploring new stuff for the MM. However, this is new technology and everything new should be examined for shortcomings. I see problems with this mod, and I am not overwhelmed by a promise of a guarantee, that's all. I'm just playing advocate exploring a not so positive side of this mod that raises my concern. In the end, it's your car, please enjoy the experience of ownership in every way you wish.
SegentMac, you may end up right about the color change due to the inhibition of the oxidation process of the paint-sounds like you know about this more than I. I would hope 3M would have done their research on this, but who Knows. And finally, I honestly didn't mean to imply you opposed anything "new".
Mike Poore
05-26-2005, 03:40 AM
......And finally, I honestly didn't mean to imply you opposed anything "new".
:laugh:Of course you did; and why not? Look at that old geezer's age! Old fart$ like that are against everything. Um, except BUTTERMILK!
Seriously though, if you visit a booth where the product is demonstrated, you'd be impressed with the results, as many of us are.:)
SergntMac
05-26-2005, 09:08 AM
:laugh:Of course you did; and why not? Look at that old geezer's age! Old fart$ like that are against everything. Um, except BUTTERMILK!
Nah...Buttermilk clogs my plumbing.
Architect
05-31-2005, 01:53 PM
:confused: What is a clear bra?...I've seen it mentioned several times...
Walt. (Architect)Now aren't y'all just delighted that I asked what a clear bra was......:rolleyes:
Thanks, Walt.
Bluerauder
05-31-2005, 02:13 PM
Sounds like a GREAT idea for Pam Anderson! :drool:
Definitely not to my taste ... :rolleyes:
danbike
05-31-2005, 02:33 PM
:banana: Please contact Paris Hilton. She can help answer your questions.
:banana:
Mike Poore
05-31-2005, 04:11 PM
Now aren't y'all just delighted that I asked what a clear bra was......:rolleyes:
Thanks, Walt.See, Walt, when it's the young guys, they always turn whatever topic into a discussion about sex, but us more, um, mature folks tend to find ways to think about food. Buttermilk, for instance.
I'm not sure when the change occurs, this growing up process, but perhaps our good friend Charlie can shed some light upon the subject, since he's just about that age. :D
Oh, and why would you need to ask someone from a Hotel in France; and who's Pamela Anderson?:dunno:
Bluerauder
05-31-2005, 04:20 PM
I'm not sure when the change occurs, this growing up process, but perhaps our good friend Charlie can shed some light upon the subject, since he's just about that age. :D
Well, I can tell you it ain't 54. :rofl: Ask me again in September. :D As a wise man once said ... "I don't wanna grow up, never grow up, ... not me " Especially if it means trading for Buttermilk. :lol:
Mike Poore
06-01-2005, 06:22 AM
Well, I can tell you it ain't 54. :rofl: Ask me again in September. :D As a wise man once said ... "I don't wanna grow up, never grow up, ... not me " Especially if it means trading for Buttermilk. :lol:
Well, I'll tell you this: it happens somewhere between 55 & 65; so just be warned.:(
I think it has something to do with the empty nest syndrome, and the hormonal changes that make your wife go crazy.:rolleyes:
Let's hear it for HRT:banana:
Ahhh, but just think, Charlie, a nice buttermilk bath at the Paris Hilton, with Pamela Anderson (whoever that is); what could be better? :)
Bluerauder
06-01-2005, 12:26 PM
Well, I'll tell you this: it happens somewhere between 55 & 65; so just be warned.:(
Is this a promise or a threat?? ;) Wow, I can't wait. :rolleyes: :( I would have preferred just a Happy Birthday wish instead of the Curse of Tutenkahmen. :rofl:
In my family, I think the magic age was 78 or maybe it was 88. :lol:
SergntMac
06-01-2005, 04:45 PM
If you're worried about getting your AARP invitation a tad early, convert to metric and get it over with.
Worked for me...
Donny Carlson
06-01-2005, 06:35 PM
you have a serious conversation with your plumber about having the water level lowered in your toilet bowl.
Bluerauder
06-01-2005, 07:26 PM
you have a serious conversation with your plumber about having the water level lowered in your toilet bowl.
:rofl: A little chilly ain't it !! :rolleyes:
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