Kenny Brown Maurder totaled - RIP Hall Azz Marauder [Archive]

89lxbill

07-02-2005, 04:23 PM

Well, I am sad to report that Bill totalled his Marauder 2 days ago. He pulled out into a 4-lane median intersection and proceeded to turn left not seeing a 4-Runner coming and it plowed him in the rear. Shoved the rear bumper all the way to the back window. Luckily everyone involved was ok, but the ride is toast. He is going to find out how much buy-back is and try to buy another Marauder and swap everything out. If the buyback is too high, he just might try to start from scratch. Sorry I don't have any pics, but I have not seen the car myself yet.

BruteForce

07-02-2005, 04:28 PM

Bummer. :alone: Glad everybody is okay.

Bluerauder

07-02-2005, 04:30 PM

Well, I am sad to report that Bill totalled his Marauder 2 days ago. Shoved the rear bumper all the way to the back window. Luckily everyone involved was ok, but the ride is toast.
Sorry to hear about the MM :( ; but glad that Bill and everyone is OK. :up:

MM03MOK

07-02-2005, 04:33 PM

I'm so glad everyone's OK. So sorry to hear about this. His KB S will live again. Give Bill our best!

:bunny:

huot5

07-02-2005, 06:25 PM

It's good to hear everyone's OK. The MM was sacrificed. :bigcry: ...imagine if it was a WRX or EVO or one of those small ricey things. the bumper may have ended up on the driver's lap. Just make it happen and get another MM on track.
good luck.

Rider90

07-02-2005, 06:53 PM

So sorry to hear this. I'm glad everyone was okay.

I'm just curious - was there any fire?

jgc61sr2002

07-02-2005, 06:58 PM

That's too bad. :( Glad to hear no one was injured.

Captain Steve

07-02-2005, 07:15 PM

It's terrible that his Marauder was totaled.
I had something similar happen, luckily the car had under 6k miles and the insurance company paid the ~20K to get it back to immaculate condition.

We talk alot about the performance drawbacks to driving a two and a half ton "sports" car. Stories like this are one of the upsides to having such a heavy, rugged car.. safety.

Fourth Horseman

07-02-2005, 07:34 PM

Oh man, that's terrible! Glad there were no serious injuries, but that really sucks about his Marauder. :depress:

the_pack_rat

07-02-2005, 07:35 PM

Damn & another one bites the dust.

:(

Glad no one was hurt.

1stMerc

07-02-2005, 07:44 PM

We talk alot about the performance drawbacks to driving a two and a half ton "sports" car. Stories like this are one of the upsides to having such a heavy, rugged car.. safety.
True dat. Good thing he wasn't in one of those tuner cars.

mercmatt

07-02-2005, 10:36 PM

wow that sucks. i crashed mine in february. i store it all winter but it was a nice day so i went to the gas station. i made it about two miles from my house when a lady pulled out in front of me. i totalled her car and caused 8 grand worth of damage to mine. air bags and everything. but its fixed and it was her fault. of course. she paid for it all. hahahah

David Morton

07-02-2005, 10:46 PM

We talk alot about the performance drawbacks to driving a two and a half ton "sports" car. Stories like this are one of the upsides to having such a heavy, rugged car.. safety.Yup. Kinda like driving those old Buick deuce-and-a-quarters. It's hard to die in a Marauder.

RoyLPita

07-03-2005, 03:13 AM

That is a shame. Glad to hear that no one was seriously hurt. Keep us posted on any new developments.

89lxbill

07-03-2005, 05:26 AM

So sorry to hear this. I'm glad everyone was okay.

I'm just curious - was there any fire?

Funny you should say that being I work at a Ford dealer. No fire. So why police cars are blowing up? I would have to say not Ford's fault.

Bradley G

07-03-2005, 07:11 AM

Great news for the Owner!
Though a major inconvienence, that's one check , I will be happy to write!(given the alternative).
Bad deal for the car!
I don't buy the police cars blowing up any more than another car.
Speculating, it has to do with the fuel tank having mostly vapors(low fuel),and police cars spending much of the time on the shoulder.
Kinda makes my first door ding, seem petty!:rolleyes:
Bradley G

RoyLPita

07-03-2005, 07:48 AM

Funny you should say that being I work at a Ford dealer. No fire. So why police cars are blowing up? I would have to say not Ford's fault.

I also work for a Ford dealer. I believe that the fires have to do with the flares, bullets and other flammable items that can be stored in the trunk.

Rider90

07-03-2005, 08:26 AM

I didn't mean to cause an argument, but if the bumper was really at the back window like you said, any vehicle with a fuel tank where our's is placed would be of concern.

Parts Man

07-03-2005, 06:12 PM

Funny you should say that being I work at a Ford dealer. No fire. So why police cars are blowing up? I would have to say not Ford's fault.
THE POLICE CARS DON'T HAVE A FUEL SHUT OFF VALVE IN THE BACK THAT CUTS OUT WHEN THEY GET BUMPED OR HIT FROM BEHIND. THIS HELPS THE POLICE BY NOT LETTING THE CARS CUT OUT WHEN CHASING PEOPLE. SO THE PUMP STAY ON AFTER AN ACCIDENT AN BOOM ..

RoyLPita

07-03-2005, 06:41 PM

THE POLICE CARS DON'T HAVE A FUEL SHUT OFF VALVE IN THE BACK THAT CUTS OUT WHEN THEY GET BUMPED OR HIT FROM BEHIND. THIS HELPS THE POLICE BY NOT LETTING THE CARS CUT OUT WHEN CHASING PEOPLE. SO THE PUMP STAY ON AFTER AN ACCIDENT AN BOOM ..

I beg to differ. The beast below has the switch just like every fuel injected Ford made since 1986 (I looked in the trunk to re-verify after reading your post 1st).

BTW, welcome to the site.

ckadiddle

07-03-2005, 09:45 PM

Glad everyone was OK.

duhtroll

07-04-2005, 08:41 AM

The reason they are catching fire is because the accidents in question are at like 90 MPH.

This whole "Crown Vics aren't safe" media thing is bull*****. They are evaluating accidents that would have killed anyone in any vehicle and then saying it's Ford's fault.

-A

Mattsmerc

08-06-2005, 03:42 PM

I found this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercury-Grand-Marquis-NOT-COBRA-MARAUDER-S-SALVAGE-KIT-CAR-SUPERCHARGED-430HP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcatego ryZ6340QQitemZ4567095764QQrdZ1 if I had the time and money I'd go get that

Glenn

08-06-2005, 04:12 PM

Car is seriously damaged in the rear, but to junk a $60,000 K/B Marauder "S" 430 hp S/C car ??? Something is missing in this picture. Frame must be completely twisted the entire length of the car. I have seen body shop men put worst cars back on the road. There is more to this story.

Glenn

Joe Walsh

08-06-2005, 04:28 PM

Whose was it? Anybody on this site??

MM03MOK

08-06-2005, 04:31 PM

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=269043#post26 9043

Whose was it? Anybody on this site??

SergntMac

08-06-2005, 04:32 PM

That's Bill Hall's car, he doesn't post here, but his good friend among us is 89LXBill. Bill got rear ended at high speed and thrown around a lot. he's okay, but heartbroken, I'm sure y'all understand.

It's genuine, a real KB signature MM, and it's an 11 second Marauder too. RWHP is much more than 430, if the powertrain is cool (and I think it is) and you can get this wreck at the right price, it's a sweet deal.

Insurance company totaled it and it went to the salvage monkeys, and for a while, they wouldn't part with it. Must have had some ideas of their own that went bust, keep that in mind?

Like I said, for the right price, it's a steal, but you'll probably be bidding against Bill in this. To my knowledge, it's a bone stock engine, but with all the right bits and tuning in place. This car was the Track Champion in '04 around Portsmouth, VA. It runs hard, and as I recall it, it went deeper into the 11s than 11.99.

RCSignals

08-06-2005, 04:40 PM

Exactly A

There are other vehicle that catch fire, seemingly more often in much lower speed collisions. I've heard of a couple of Hondas recently.
The media doesn't go after them.
I suspect one day it will be discovered that other car manufacturers who 'might' make a Police vehicle had money behind it all, or something.

RCSignals

08-06-2005, 04:41 PM

I take it buy back was too high, but not for the salvage yard, who can list it at no reserve.

Blackened300a

08-06-2005, 04:50 PM

Well In all respects, I hope the Original owner Wins the bid and can get all his performance Parts Back.

RCSignals

08-06-2005, 05:12 PM

Agreed Blackened300a

From the auction, Bill the original owner has been talking to the salvage yard.
I can only guess they wouldn't sell to him for a reasonable amount.
I suspect if it doesn't reach their price at auction you'll see it ended early, despite the no reserve.

JACook

08-06-2005, 07:22 PM

I didn't mean to cause an argument, but if the bumper was really at the back window like you said, any vehicle with a fuel tank where our's is placed would be of concern. Well, since this thread got bumped anyway, see for yourself here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercury-Grand-Marquis-NOT-COBRA-MARAUDER-S-SALVAGE-KIT-CAR-SUPERCHARGED-430HP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcatego ryZ6340QQitemZ4567095764QQrdZ1 ):
It's a crying shame this got totalled in the first place, and an even bigger shame that Bill couldn't
come to reasonable terms with the vultures...

hitchhiker

08-06-2005, 07:37 PM

Here is the pic from the ebay listing...

http://i22.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/aa/b9/46_0.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4567095764&fromMakeTrack=true#ebayphotoho sting)

Best Regards,

David

johnfain

08-06-2005, 07:49 PM

Well, since this thread got bumped anyway, see for yourself here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercury-Grand-Marquis-NOT-COBRA-MARAUDER-S-SALVAGE-KIT-CAR-SUPERCHARGED-430HP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcatego ryZ6340QQitemZ4567095764QQrdZ1 ):
It's a crying shame this got totalled in the first place, and an even bigger shame that Bill couldn't
come to reasonable terms with the vultures...

What do you mean "since this thread got bumped anyway" ??

I hope Bill has/had a very good lawyer.

johnfain

08-06-2005, 07:53 PM

JACook

08-06-2005, 08:10 PM

What do you mean "since this thread got bumped anyway" ?? It had pretty much run it's course with no activity for over a month. I mighta resurrected it anyway,
given the new ebay listing, but someone else had already done it for me.

MENINBLK

08-06-2005, 08:14 PM

This car was the Track Champion in '04 around Portsmouth, VA.

That's a real shame...
To lose a Champion this way.

At least it saved his life.

johnfain

08-06-2005, 08:16 PM

It had pretty much run it's course with no activity for over a month. I mighta resurrected it anyway,
given the new ebay listing, but someone else had already done it for me.

I see. What do you think it will go for?

JACook

08-06-2005, 09:25 PM

I see. What do you think it will go for? No idea. If there's any justice, it'll go for less than the bastages were trying to get outta Bill for the buyback.
(And no, I'm not privy to how much that was.) I personally wouldn't bid on it, out of respect for Bill.

SideshowBob

08-06-2005, 10:01 PM

In last month's Car Craft they mentioned that police lawsuits against Ford were dropped after Ford threatened to no longer sell them cars. CC's take on that was that cops would rather risk a fiery death than drive a FWD Impala.

JamesHecker

08-07-2005, 12:18 AM

Damn....what a crying shame.

Really glad no one got hurt though!

gray bear

08-07-2005, 12:36 AM

That is the one listed on ebay I saw in another thread.

Vortex

08-07-2005, 07:01 AM

I also work for a Ford dealer. I believe that the fires have to do with the flares, bullets and other flammable items that can be stored in the trunk.
Another thing is patrol cars seem to usually get hit while on the side of the highway by some drunk doing 70 mph or so. Anything (with a rear fuel tank) getting hit in the rear at that speed is likely to cause rupture of the tank leading to fire.

FW_Linc/Merc

08-07-2005, 12:00 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercury-Grand-Marquis-NOT-COBRA-MARAUDER-S-SALVAGE-KIT-CAR-SUPERCHARGED-430HP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcatego ryZ6340QQitemZ4567095764QQrdZ1

Lost another one...

MM03MOK

08-07-2005, 12:06 PM

threads merged.....

sailsmen

08-07-2005, 12:16 PM

An insurance company is not going to pay more then the Actual Cash Value, which in most cases is what hte car would sell for before the wreck.

Odds are the ACV was less than the repair costs.

Insurance companies will usually let the owner have first dibs on the salvage.

There's probably more to the story.

JACook

08-07-2005, 01:11 PM

An insurance company is not going to pay more then the Actual Cash Value, which in most cases is what hte car would sell for before the wreck. The big question is, how does one determine Actual Cash Value on a car as rare as a Kenny Brown Marauder S? Add
to that, the VIN would list this car as a Grand Marquis, and I can see where we might have a real fight on our hands.

I don't doubt that there's more to the story, but IMO, this car is rare enough to warrant repair.

sailsmen

08-07-2005, 03:07 PM

They would look for sales of other Kenny B cars, talk to an appraiser and an auctioneer.

Look at what you can buy an S/C, brakes,tranny, t/c and suspension for, $12K? So what's the used value of the parts $6K max?

johnfain

08-07-2005, 05:44 PM

No idea. If there's any justice, it'll go for less than the bastages were trying to get outta Bill for the buyback.
(And no, I'm not privy to how much that was.) I personally wouldn't bid on it, out of respect for Bill.

I agree the owner should get the powertrain and salvage parts. Out of respect. This was a KB s/c car. He invested alot of $$$ in this.
:shake: :shake: :shake: :nono: :nono: :nono:

MarauderMark

08-08-2005, 03:12 PM

Was looking around saw this and thought what a shame anyone here???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MARAUDER-S-SALVAGE-KIT-CAR-SUPERCHARGED-430HP_W0QQitemZ4567095764QQcat egoryZ6340QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem

RoyLPita

08-08-2005, 03:19 PM

This one keeps showing up here like a bad penny. All we need now is for another member to buy it.

MarauderMark

08-08-2005, 03:22 PM

This one keeps showing up here like a bad penny. All we need now is for another member to buy it.
ha ha ha i go on vacation for a couple of days and lose track here .i must be getting old.. :D

MM03MOK

08-08-2005, 03:24 PM

Yep....

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=20293

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19432

SergntMac

08-08-2005, 03:26 PM

This one keeps showing up here like a bad penny. All we need now is for another member to buy it. I've seen it posted only twice before, but you make a good point. Let's hope some scholl district doesn't buy it and park it on their front lawn for the next year...

RF Overlord

08-08-2005, 03:32 PM

I never knew Mercury made a "Grand Marquis NOT COBRA"...I know the word "Marauder" on the bumper may no longer be legible, but jeez... :shake:

...and maybe some kind moderator can merge this thread with the other 2 on the same topic?

Marauder386

08-08-2005, 04:35 PM

I am cobbling together some cash and going liquid on some other things so I can seriously rescue this vehicle. I am not going to pay a stupid price but I am hell bent on making Bill feel good about who he was an "organ donor" for...
As of this writing, I am watching and will have the moolah gathered before COB tomorrow...

:coolman:

jgc61sr2002

08-08-2005, 04:55 PM

MENINBLK

08-08-2005, 05:25 PM

Marauder386

08-08-2005, 06:03 PM

A new frame is $3700...
The frame can't be straightened because of the composite materials
it is constructed with.

Yeah, I got that info and $$ too. My intent is to move Bills parts onto one of the RoadPigs and then his effort wouldnt be wasted...then with whats left I dunno what to do except offer up parts as you guys need them...thats my thought as I write...good receipient from a strong donor...

:coolman:

juno

08-08-2005, 06:28 PM

Yeah, I got that info and $$ too. My intent is to move Bills parts onto one of the RoadPigs and then his effort wouldnt be wasted...then with whats left I dunno what to do except offer up parts as you guys need them...thats my thought as I write...good receipient from a strong donor...

:coolman:
Being new, I don't know Bill or if he is bidding. Would it help if those people from here who are bidding would give there ebay monniker so one doesn't get into an unnecessary bidding war with someone from here?

MarauderMark

08-08-2005, 06:49 PM

theredlineboss

08-08-2005, 07:53 PM

Yeah, I got that info and $$ too. My intent is to move Bills parts onto one of the RoadPigs and then his effort wouldnt be wasted...then with whats left I dunno what to do except offer up parts as you guys need them...thats my thought as I write...good receipient from a strong donor...

:coolman:
:hijack: Perhaps I'm out of the loop, but what are the "RoadPigs"?

*We now return to your regularly scheduled thread.*

Rob

CBT

08-12-2005, 05:56 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mercury-Grand-Marquis-NOT-COBRA-MARAUDER-S-SALVAGE-KIT-CAR-SUPERCHARGED-430HP_W0QQitemZ4567095764QQcat egoryZ6340QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

STLR FN

08-12-2005, 06:01 AM

Here we go again.....

MM03MOK

08-12-2005, 07:13 AM

Here's a great example of why it is important to think about the title of your thread. We've had 5 threads start about the same eBay auction plus Bill's initial thread about Bill Hall's car. All are merged into this thread now. You guys are making WORK for me!!!! :nono: :nono:

jdando

08-16-2005, 04:11 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4567095764&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBUAA% 3AUS%3A11

Anyone here?

1643dan (http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ReturnUserEmail&requested=1643dan&iid=4567095764&frm=284)

jeremy

SILVERMARAUDER

09-12-2005, 07:52 AM

did this car sell? :help:

STLR FN

09-12-2005, 08:45 AM

Yeap for the total of 7,201.50.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4567095764&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBUAA% 3AUS%3A11

did this car sell? :help: