Wow!!!!!

[Marauderjack]

I just got my front anti-sway bar and put it on......About an hour to install since I took off the front wheels, but......WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!! :beer: :banana2: :bows:

The car handles like it is literally "On A Rail"!!! Body roll is minimal and the ride didn't really change!! ;)

I thought the rear bar made a big difference but the combination of the front and rear really helped the car beyond belief. :D

Marauderjack :pimp:

[Cobra25]

I did the rear sway bar 2 days ago. Was thinking about changing the front, someone told me that has the front one that the steering get's a little harder. Did you feel that at all?

[Marauderjack]

No change in steering effort....Just much crisper!!

Go for it!! :beer:

Marauderjack :D

[Bowman9]

I just got my front anti-sway bar and put it on......About an hour to install since I took off the front wheels, but......WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!! :beer: :banana2: :bows:

The car handles like it is literally "On A Rail"!!! Body roll is minimal and the ride didn't really change!! ;)

I thought the rear bar made a big difference but the combination of the front and rear really helped the car beyond belief. :D

Marauderjack :pimp:

What size bars did you go with?
Isn't there two sizes to choice from?

[Marauderjack]

Addco #2196...not sure about the size but heavier than OEM...looks like 1.25" or more?? :confused:

It works GREAT!!! :bows:

Marauderjack :D

[MarauderMark]

I did the back and that made a huge difference..Later in the future i may do the front , i may not..:dunno: :D

[Fourth Horseman]

This is great to hear as my front bar is on its way from Dennis. I'm going to put it and my new Metco watts link in at the same time.

[MarauderMarc]

Is the front and rear addco the same? I only see the rear on Dennis' sight, Im taking it its for front as well as rear...correct me if Im wrong

[Fourth Horseman]

Is the front and rear addco the same? I only see the rear on Dennis' sight, Im taking it its for front as well as rear...correct me if Im wrong

The front is a different part #. Call Dennis, he said recently that he's got items in stock, which is why I called and placed my order.

[Rider90]

Front and Rear sways are my next mod, glad to hear the good review - thanks marauderjack :beer:

[Warpath]

Did on center feel change? In other words, does it seem to drift/wander more or create a dead spot in the middle of steering? The OE bar has the bushings bonded to the bar which improves on center feel.

[Fourth Horseman]

Did on center feel change? In other words, does it seem to drift/wander more or create a dead spot in the middle of steering? The OE bar has the bushings bonded to the bar which improves on center feel.

I only have the rear bar on my car so far, but I drove NavChap's car cross-country to/from MarauderVille 3 and he has both the front and rear bars. With his car I did not notice any problems with this. His car tracked straight and true with no control input, and when I asked it to change directions quickly it went wherever I pointed it with no problems.

[Marauderjack]

No changes at all with respect to center and wander...In fact after a few days you won't even notice how flat it corners...as you get used to it!! :beer:

But....anyone who rides with you will comment about how flat it corners!! :bows:

Marauderjack :rolleyes:

[Warpath]

Perhaps its the larger diameter and/or the stiffer bushings that make up for the lack of bonding.

[Meteorite]

I did the rear sway bar 2 days ago. Was thinking about changing the front, someone told me that has the front one that the steering get's a little harder. Did you feel that at all?
I installed the Addco rear bar last night and the front bar this afternoon.

In my case, I seemed to notice a slight increase in steering efforts for quick lane changes at highway speeds, but it was very slight, certainly not objectionable.

I seemed to actually get a small improvement in response -- that is, less of a dead-zone when first moving the wheel off-center.

Metco rear control arms are next for me.

[Fourth Horseman]

Got my front bar from UPS on Friday and put it on yesterday. Already had my rear bar on for over a year. I haven't had a chance to play with it a whole lot yet, but I can already tell a difference in how the front end responds to quick lane changes, etc. I'm due to have my Metco Watt's link put on next week sometime and I look forward to seeing what the complete package of both bars and the Watt's link can do.

I guess it's QA1 shocks and coil-over springs next. :)

[Warpath]

What are the diameters of the OE and Addco bars? A larger diameter bar will make ride harsher - maybe not enough for anyone to complain though.

[Meteorite]

What are the diameters of the OE and Addco bars? A larger diameter bar will make ride harsher - maybe not enough for anyone to complain though.
I don't have the diameters off the top of my head. I will check sometime soon.

The stabilizer bars, though, only load up (in torsion, of course), when one wheel on a given axle (front or rear) is loaded more than the other wheel on that same axle. Therefore for smooth roads, or roads with with similar input for left and right wheels, the bars never get loaded, and cannot make a difference in ride. That's what the vehicle dynamics texts say, anyhow.

Now on a bumpy road (such as nearly all roads in Detroit), you will load the sta-bar some, and it may be perceived as a harsher ride.

[Warpath]

I don't have the diameters off the top of my head. I will check sometime soon.

The stabilizer bars, though, only load up (in torsion, of course), when one wheel on a given axle (front or rear) is loaded more than the other wheel on that same axle. Therefore for smooth roads, or roads with with similar input for left and right wheels, the bars never get loaded, and cannot make a difference in ride. That's what the vehicle dynamics texts say, anyhow.

Now on a bumpy road (such as nearly all roads in Detroit), you will load the sta-bar some, and it may be perceived as a harsher ride.

That's exactly what I meant. I mentioned that the increase in harshness may not be much and not objectionable. Secondly, I think those who change them are more interested in handling than ride. Theoretically, the larger diameter bar will weight more (unless its hollow) and add a small amount to unsprung weight which will impact ride and handling. But, compared to the rest of the unsprung weight, it is probably neglegible. Unsprung weight is probably 100 - 150 lb.

[Meteorite]

That's exactly what I meant. I mentioned that the increase in harshness may not be much and not objectionable. Secondly, I think those who change them are more interested in handling than ride. Theoretically, the larger diameter bar will weight more (unless its hollow) and add a small amount to unsprung weight which will impact ride and handling. But, compared to the rest of the unsprung weight, it is probably neglegible. Unsprung weight is probably 100 - 150 lb.
Good points, Warpath.

I didn't notice a degradation in ride, but my wife said she did!

[Marauderjack]

Warpath.....

How do you figure it is "Unsprung" weight when it attaches to the frame??? :confused:

Seems to me it is sprung just like the rest of the car that ain't wheels or rear axle!! :rolleyes:

BTW....It's pretty amazing the scrawny end links hold like they do but the cornering is great!!

Marauderjack :bandit:

[Warpath]

The rear bar is mounted to the axle. So, all or most of its weight is unsprung. The front bar is mounted to the frame. But, it is also attached to the knuckles. So, there is a small portion of the bar that would be unsprung. Another example is the control arms. Normally, we guestimate the unsprung weight of the control arms to be 50% unsprung and 50% sprung as a starting point. An easy way to measure unsprung weight is to hold the component loosely at the frame attachment points and put the other attachment points on a scale. What you read is the unsprung weight or close to it.

[Marauderjack]

Oh....I see what ya mean now!! :cool4:

Marauderjack :D