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tomd
03-19-2003, 01:35 PM
Found this poking around Blue Oval News

MERCURY FALLING
March 03
Chris Paukert, Managing Editor.

Having attended both the Detroit and Chicago shows this past season and witnessed the fruits of Ford's supposed reinvigoration of the Mercury brand, I can't help but feel that Dearborn is once again falling prey to the same gulag that deep-sixed the marque's value in the first place. The sum total of Ford's trumpeted reinvestment into the fallen badge can be seen thusly: More tarted-up trim-and-tape Fords. This time, though, they're willing to tarnish valued old monikers like Monterey, Montego, and Marauder to sell a few extra units. What's old is new again, and vice-versa.

To sit in on the press conference in the City of Big Shoulders listening to journalists quietly groan while Elena Ford waxed euphoric about the rebirth of Mercury, only to lamely plug a rebadged Windstar (err… Freestar) with a new grill and an analog dashboard clock is to nutshell the problem. I won't argue that Ford's latest salvo in the minivan wars may in fact be a damned fine product. What I will contend, however, is that a handful of minor differentiations will fail to justify (to the consumer) the thousand-dollar premium that the model will likely command over a Blue Oval badged example. With most of the features available on the meat-and-potatoes Freestar, there is precious little incentive for the consumer to pony up a few extra grand for the added prestige of a brand that in fact has no clout whatsoever.

More troubling still is that the widely-published snazzy big-wheeled artist's rendering of the Montego (Mercury's sedan for '05) likewise instantly lost its appeal when during the Monterey presser a CGI teaser of the four-door revealed an altogether less aggressive design that fairly screamed "rent me." Back in Detroit, the Mercury Messenger coupe debut revealed an interesting concept with a splashy introduction, but by most accounts, it is a throwaway publicity stunt that will never see the light of day. The Marauder notion held promise (deflated by a drivetrain that couldn't hang with Honda Accord), but in truth Dearborn would have been better served by having it wear the Blue Oval. The only truly viable horse in Mercury's stable appears to be the Mountaineer, which at least has a distinctly uppercrust look and feel when compared to its downmarket Explorer brethren.

Mercury's Achilles' heel has always been Dearborn's failure give the marque a clear-cut purpose and design direction. Occupying the muddied midwaters between Ford and Lincoln hasn't proven to be a suitable habitat for brand growth for decades, and nothing yet shown sees any real promise of reversing that. The buying demographics that Mercury claims to be courting in fact likely have no idea who or what Mercury stands for. For the last twenty five years or so, Mercury has essentially admitted that hasn't stood for anything. This means that a forty-year-old consumer has likely has no sentiments (fond or otherwise) regarding the brand at all, and that's a hell of a big eight ball for the brand to be sitting behind come buying time.

For a rebirth to take root, fresh product and a well-defined market segment are a must. One can successfully share platforms so long as common roots are disguised - the VW group has reiterated this truth for us since the introduction of the New Beetle, though even that act is starting to wear a bit thin. Since the advent of the CTS and surprising success of the revised Escalade, Cadillac has been successfully breeding new buyers with its bold styling direction and well thought-out products (The SRX is a knockout, btw), and although it is too early to tell, Infiniti appears to have found the road out of the woods with products like the sublime G35 Coupe and FX45 softroader. Mercury, it would appear, still has no idea just how far gone they truly are.

I must come clean and say that I've been heard in conversation for the past couple of years siding with the contingent that favors nixing the brand altogether. However, I elected to give Dearborn the benefit of the doubt and wanted to wait for the first wave of new products before going on record as saying "I Told You So," because I truly hoped to be proven wrong. Sadly, Mercury is clearly in deep trouble.

For the record, I am not unaware of the brand's history - episodes of which are clearly worth saving. In fact, it is worth pointing out that Ford itself failed to find the palpable irony and pity in their displaying a number of vintage Turnpike Cruisers and Hi-Po Cougars only to trot out a soullessly Xeroxed soccer mom transportation device. With Ford in need of cash and new volume models yesterday, now is simply not the time to be futzing around with a profitless sideline of products.

It has been said that sustaining Mercury has merely been part of Ford's plan to sate stand-alone Lincoln-Mercury dealers, who lately haven't had much to cheer about, let alone having products on hand to help them balance the books. Ford's troubled dealership relations will come as news to nobody that frequents this site, and doubtlessly ashcanning an entire brand would do little to alleviate that concern, at least in the short-term. With that said, I say without a hint of disrespect to the dealers or their employees, keeping this woefully under-funded brand on life support does no one any favors, it simply prolongs the inevitable… in the process bleeding parent Ford's coffers dry of money that might otherwise have been spent on meaningful new product to help spearhead the turnaround.

Of course, I'll admit that mine is by no means a uniquely held sentiment… consider this an addition to the growing chorus of voices. Sadly, it is a choir I wish I didn't have to join. Call it "trim and tape" or "smoke and mirrors," but this dog just won't hunt. It is high time to euthanize Mercury. Dearborn can always wait thirty years for when Ford is in less rude health and pull a "Maybach," reintroducing a brand that nobody but the automotively obsessed such as myself remembers anyway (on the thinnest wisp of a deeply embellished history, no less). Maybe then people won't remember the Topaz.

LincMercLover
03-19-2003, 02:12 PM
Yah, I read that. They just CAN'T do it though. If not to have a "mid-ground" car in their market, but for it's heritage!

nomad
03-19-2003, 02:15 PM
They CAN'T do it??
Hmmmm

RF Overlord
03-19-2003, 04:07 PM
Oh, yes they CAN...

Huge, faceless, inertially-challenged corporations have been known throughout history for doing incredibly stupid things. The problem is that the people who make these decisions are so insulated from the real world, that they have no concept of what they are doing. They are surrounded by yes-men (sorry- PC slip- yes-PERSONS) and care only about the size of their bonuses.

remember the Pacer? the Gremlin? the Vega? how about the Pinto? :eek:

:lol:

LincMercLover
03-19-2003, 05:12 PM
Look at Oldsmobile... Case and point.

427435
03-19-2003, 08:26 PM
Of course Ford can shut down Mercury. Frankly, I think they already have made the decision. Sure, they're going to keep "milking the cow" for a while (with minimal investments in "feed"), but I think they're trying to turn Lincoln into their mid-price cars. Their top price brands will end up being the Euopean stuff---Jag, Volvo etc. once they get those product's quality up to snuff and enough dealers in place.

Too bad there aren't some car people at Ford instead of just accountants and stiffs in suits----all worrying about their next bonus. If there were, Mercury wouldn't have become an "old people's car" over the last 10 - 15 years.

By the way, if you're over 50, want a sporty 4 passenger, 2 door car (with strong acceleration, but a comfortable ride, for $30,000 to $35,000, what Ford product do you buy? The new T-Bird has neither the seats or power to qualify. The Mustang's ride flunks and, besides, I've moved beyond "hot wheels". Did you notice that, shortly after Ford killed the T-Bird in 1997 due to lack of market, the Japs all started producing sporty coupes. They must have thought that there were a growing number of "maturing" baby-boomers (as well as younger ages) that wanted to buy a sporty coupe beyond the entry level cars like the Focus.

Gee, guess I have to look at a rice-grinder. :confused:

End of rant-------I feel better now. :)

RCSignals
03-20-2003, 12:21 AM
Writers like him are upset because a few years ago they told the World Ford was ending Mercury, when in fact they weren't, and Ford had the gall not to just do it for them.

He should also take a Marauder for a drive, rather than just read C+D

NickLee
03-20-2003, 06:13 AM
tomd, keep poking, good information.

Macon Marauder
03-20-2003, 07:56 AM
Mercury still alive after all?

From a link on blueovalnews:
http://www.detnews.com/2003/insiders/0303/20/inside-114217.htm

LT1power
03-20-2003, 08:35 AM
pretty mean lol

The Marauder notion held promise (deflated by a drivetrain that couldn't hang with Honda Accord

beemer
03-20-2003, 09:28 AM
The Marauder notion held promise (deflated by a drivetrain that couldn't hang with Honda Accord

Yep, it's always too cool for the media to Ford-bash. Unlike the media darling Impala SS whose best 0-60 time is only 7.4 seconds published, against the Marauder's 7.5 second published time. Therefore our vaunted SS is no better against the same Accord, LOL and it has an additional 70 C.I. of displacement compared to the Marauder.

I can just see an Accord show up at our local cruise nites and brag "I can beat the Impala SS and Marauder in 0-60 launch."

LOL, no one will care.

Best,

Paul:D

Macon Marauder
03-20-2003, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by beemer
Yep, it's always too cool for the media to Ford-bash. Unlike the media darling Impala SS whose best 0-60 time is only 7.4 seconds published, against the Marauder's 7.5 second published time. Therefore our vaunted SS is no better against the same Accord, LOL and it has an additional 70 C.I. of displacement compared to the Marauder.

I can just see an Accord show up at our local cruise nites and brag "I can beat the Impala SS and Marauder in 0-60 launch."

LOL, no one will care.

Best,

Paul:D

Right you are! No one will care.
(and it ain't true, anyway!)

WolfeBros
03-20-2003, 09:33 AM
Bravo Beemer. Very well said and stated. :up:

MAD-3R
03-20-2003, 09:37 AM
Ricer Boy: But, but I have....

MM/SS Owner: I don't care, it's still a Honda.

mdmarauder
03-20-2003, 09:39 AM
Plus, the fact that I think Car and Driver had the worst 0-60 time for the MM out of all the mags I've seen. But I'm a little biased. I refuse to even rent a jap car.

prchrman
03-20-2003, 09:53 AM
Got a MM for style and comfort with some umph...if I wanted 0-60 would have got 03 Cobra...still American and rear wheel drive...and the bad part is that you have to ride in that Honda...Like the Luxo Barge shootout boys (in MM&FF) shirts said "Your Honda Sucks"...

LincMercLover
03-20-2003, 11:50 AM
I don't think ANYONE bought the car because it was the fastest thing out on the market. They bought it because it's the coolest thing on the market that appeals to them. We all have our own tastes, and this car satisfied it for us. Plain and simple.

But if a Accord or Sable parks next to me at a cruise in, I think I may have to run with my tail tucked under my legs... :lol:

"OH! I hear mother calling! Gotta run!" :D

MAD-3R
03-20-2003, 11:52 AM
No, not the...the... SABLE?!?!?!

LincMercLover
03-20-2003, 11:57 AM
Yes, that SABLE! Maybe we need Sable and Accord added to the bad word thingy?

the fat bastid
03-20-2003, 08:09 PM
about oldsmobile:
from what i hear the quality of the buicks was moving up and thus trampling over olds...it was no longer needed.

4 different brands to go through seems a bit much. but 3 seems about right.

RCSignals
03-20-2003, 11:00 PM
mdmarauder
Who knows where C+D even got that time? Some one else posted here they didn't drive the car on a track

mdmarauder
03-21-2003, 07:20 AM
RC,

That makes sense. Motor Trend and MMFF got much better times.

sep10
03-21-2003, 04:21 PM
anybody remember "The Grosse Pointe Myopians" ? article ran in Car & Driver 34 years ago !! It is still true today ! Japan is out-marketing us, esp here in CA. Rice rockets "rule" the roads w/ under-30 set [cars] - but not trucks, YET.
Merc Cougar: better than MR2, came w/ V-6 & edgy style. Never promoted, never sold well.
Taurus SHO: same as above, marvellous alum V-6 24valve rice rocket beater if worked on.
Contour: decent V-6 24 valve, never promoted, never sold well.
They just will NOT learn in Detroit.
Japan- best/brightest: car engineers.
U.S. ditto : rocket scientists literally.

Somebody in Detriot gotta listen.
Just go there & see brownfields everywhere & dilapidated housing. What a sorry sight. USA car companies also going that way ??

KLinardo
11-10-2007, 06:38 AM
Look at Oldsmobile... Case and point.

That won't happen to Mercury. Ford can fix Mercury. They have to get on THEIR feet, get a good line up of production models which is all but done, then they have to set Mercury straight with its own cars that aren't fancier versions of Ford. It just dosen't work like that. Ford needs to bring back what is in Mercury's Heritage. Keep all of the cars that they have now that are respectable and then bring back something like how Ford brought back the Ford GT for a while. If Mercury brought back, lets say the Cougar or the Marauder, Merc should be back on its feet.

FordNut
11-10-2007, 06:42 AM
Wow, talk about reviving on old dead thread from the grave... This one's from '03!