The ULTIMATE Dead Pedal

[Rider90]

I've seen what KB has to offer and I'm pretty disapointed. Has anyone experimented with other dead pedal setups or have made your own? I'm thinking that if I cannot find a complete assembly online I will do some testing with a piece of 2x4 under the carpet. This isn't a foot rest that I'm looking for. The dead pedal in the Corvette is exceptional, as well as the CTS-V. For those that know what feel I'm talking about, how do you suggest I achieve this?

[WolfeBros]

I've seen what KB has to offer and I'm pretty disapointed. Has anyone experimented with other dead pedal setups or have made your own? I'm thinking that if I cannot find a complete assembly online I will do some testing with a piece of 2x4 under the carpet. This isn't a foot rest that I'm looking for. The dead pedal in the Corvette is exceptional, as well as the CTS-V. For those that know what feel I'm talking about, how do you suggest I achieve this?

I thought the KB one was a pretty good solution. Have you driven or sat in a car with it? It has to beat the hell out of a 2x4.

[Bowman9]

You might want to check the salvage yards for a dead pedal out of a "fox" Mustang.

[DEFYANT]

I made one for my ole 02 CVPI. It worked great. But I had to hack up the kick panel to make it work. I was going to remove it from the car when I turned it in for a new car, but I plan to get the KB and avoid hacking the MM interior.

No offence, but the wood idea would be chinsy... My .02

[Rider90]

I made one for my ole 02 CVPI. It worked great. But I had to hack up the kick panel to make it work. I was going to remove it from the car when I turned it in for a new car, but I plan to get the KB and avoid hacking the MM interior.

No offence, but the wood idea would be chinsy... My .02
The wood idea for an experiment beats the hell out of getting something fabricated. Experiment is the key word. If I like the feel I'll go with steel and I'll make it look pretty.

I have never sat in a vehicle with a KB Dead Pedal. Nor have I been able to research it on their website, which is still developing for the 9th month. I've seen pictures and for $75 it may be worth it to some, but I'd pay much more to have something much stronger. The pictures make it look weak and generic, but hell, maybe in person that will all change.

[Eric91Z]

Does anyone have any pictures of it? I have not been able to find any. This is one item I want to add to the Marauder when I get it home. I need a place for that left foot.

[Rider90]

Does anyone have any pictures of it? I have not been able to find any. This is one item I want to add to the Marauder when I get it home. I need a place for that left foot.

Dynopro's link:

http://www.dynoproauto.com/images/MMpedals3.jpg

[MN6]

The KB dead pedal was the first Mod I installed, use it all the time with some spirited cornering thrown in. It's a bolt on item and in my opinion well worth the $75.00. Before throwing in the towel and fabricating one of your own, see if you can find one locally.

[Rider90]

The KB dead pedal was the first Mod I installed, use it all the time with some spirited cornering thrown in. It's a bolt on item and in my opinion well worth the $75.00. Before throwing in the towel and fabricating one of your own, see if you can find one locally.
I think Joe (BigJoeP) has one, I'm not sure. I'm not one for getting behind someone else's wheel and attempting to break something. Does this thing just mount to the plastic? or does it hit steel behind it? Any more details would be appreciated...

[Eric91Z]

Dynopro's link:

http://www.dynoproauto.com/images/MMpedals3.jpg


Is the Kenny Bown DP the same as the Dyno Pros one?

[Rider90]

Is the Kenny Bown DP the same as the Dyno Pros one?
Dyno Pros just makes a cover for the KB Dead Pedal. I have my cover lying around here, as well as the E-Brake cover as I don't want it digging into my leg. I position my left foot up and into the corner.

[RoyLPita]

I made mine out of wood. I also added grip tape to it. It is about 8" long 2 x 4 pice and doe not come in contact with the e-brake cable or pedal. I'll see if I could get a pic for the masses to see.

[Rider90]

I made mine out of wood. I also added grip tape to it. It is about 8" long 2 x 4 pice and doe not come in contact with the e-brake cable or pedal. I'll see if I could get a pic for the masses to see.
Pics would be great if you could find em' Brian.

Folks, this is something along the lines that I'm looking for. I believe this link is just selling the cover and not the assembly.

http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CP&Product_Code=67840-Z33DP

I don't care much for the bling, I'm looking for function. I like the shape and assembly of this, and I don't think I want a dead pedal that mounts to the side as I don't want any movement or bend so I'd put it on the floor..

[RoyLPita]

Pics would be great if you could find em' Brian.

Folks, this is something along the lines that I'm looking for. I believe this link is just selling the cover and not the assembly.

http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CP&Product_Code=67840-Z33DP

I don't care much for the bling, I'm looking for function. I like the shape and assembly of this, and I don't think I want a dead pedal that mounts to the side as I don't want any movement or bend so I'd put it on the floor..

Actually, I have to take them. I talked about this in previous threads without any visuals and got no responses. I'll see if I could get some photos in tonight.

[HwyCruiser]

Its been awhile since I installed the KB dead pedal, but it is backed up by another bracket that is bolted to sheetmetal. Its not a lightweight setup at all. It comes with installation instructions that were pretty straight forward from what I remember. The only thing I had to do is run a tap through the welded-on backup plate nuts.

I'm 6'2" and closer to 300 lbs that I would like and I've put my weight on it many a times and it doesn't sweat it. $75 is a steal on this considering the aggravation you'll go through trying to re-invent an already good solution.

[WolfeBros]

The KB pedal is made out of stamped steel. It bolts through the plastic trim panel into another stamped steel section of the car. It is not cheesy and unless you weigh over 350 lbs it should do a good job for you.

[Hotrauder]

Its been awhile since I installed the KB dead pedal, but it is backed up by another bracket that is bolted to sheetmetal. Its not a lightweight setup at all. It comes with installation instructions that were pretty straight forward from what I remember. The only thing I had to do is run a tap through the welded-on backup plate nuts.

I'm 6'2" and closer to 300 lbs that I would like and I've put my weight on it many a times and it doesn't sweat it. $75 is a steal on this considering the aggravation you'll go through trying to re-invent an already good solution.
Sound perfect. Does it have an adjustment function to change the angle of the foot rest relative to the leg the foot is attached to? If you know what I mean. Some Ihave tried have been to flat and others to upright. Dennis:burnout:

[HwyCruiser]

Sound perfect. Does it have an adjustment function to change the angle of the foot rest relative to the leg the foot is attached to? If you know what I mean. Some Ihave tried have been to flat and others to upright. Dennis:burnout:

No adjustments, but the pedal itself pretty small so just the ball of your foot rests on it while your heel rests on the floor, wherever it may wind up. The foot bone connected to the ankle bone, the ankle bone connected to the leg bone...

[ctrcbob]

And I thought I was the only person who did not like the position of my left foot in the stock position.

I also made my own. I had some wood fence material laying around, so I cut one piece about eight inches long. Cut a second piece about six inches long, and glued it to the first piece. Cut a third piece about four inches and a last piece about two inches. All glued together so it forms a rough wedge. Placed it under the floor mat, under my left foot, long side toward me and shorter pieces toward floor. Have not secured it, but it does not move. This is the cheap way out I guess.

[CRUZTAKER]

Only a former RX-7 OWNER WOULD KNOW....but I suppose any number of foriegn manual cars have them...

The first and second generation RX-7's have a nice dead pedal. I haven't went to the bone yard to grab one, but if memory serves, the peadal cover Bradley at Dynopro has with the pedal kit, should cover (replace) the rubber cover on the pedal.

This is the route I'm going.

BTW: Brad and CJ's pedal covers are really nice and worth the money.

Also, the KB pedal is superior in the fact that it was made for us...but wat too pricey for some of us.

[Hotrauder]

No adjustments, but the pedal itself pretty small so just the ball of your foot rests on it while your heel rests on the floor, wherever it may wind up. The foot bone connected to the ankle bone, the ankle bone connected to the leg bone...

the right foot bone is connected to the brain bone!:beer: but you got my idea. thanks for the info. I will get one!

[Rider90]

I'm very interested in seeing the plans some of you are doing. If you could post any pictures of the progress, if coming up shortly, that would be great for myself and the archives.

Thanks

[RoyLPita]

Here's what you asked for:

With the e-brake off:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Image0011.jpg
With the e-brake on:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Image0021.jpg
Side view with the e-brake on:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Image003.jpg

[BruteForce]

Wood in the cockpit is sacrilege! :nono:

[Rider90]

Thank you, Brian.

The wood is an excellent idea for testing purposes, but I'd have to make a move to steel once I made my mind up. I think I'll do some fitting in the near future...

[ckadiddle]

Don't know if it would fit or be any use, but I have noticed that the new(to us) 2000 Mustang GT has one of those dead pedal thingies in it. Haven't looked closely at it. Maybe a used one out of a 'stang would work for you guys and not be pricey?

[rumble]

Here's what you asked for:

With the e-brake off:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Image0011.jpg


Roy, how is that mounted?

[Meteorite]

I drove an Aston-Martin last year, and it had wood in the cockpit. Not a 2x4, however.

Wood in the cockpit is sacrilege! :nono:

[RoyLPita]

Roy, how is that mounted?

With the grip tape on all around,it is just put in place and it does not move. I do have a hook made for it to hang from the mat when it was in my CVPI.

[BruteForce]

I drove an Aston-Martin last year, and it had wood in the cockpit. Not a 2x4, however.

Trim is one thing but structural (i.e., stress/load bearing) is a little too _fill in the blank_ for me. :nono:

[ADE 1000]

I think Joe (BigJoeP) has one, I'm not sure. I'm not one for getting behind someone else's wheel and attempting to break something. Does this thing just mount to the plastic? or does it hit steel behind it? Any more details would be appreciated...

It does mount to existing bolt locations in the footwell and is fairly sturdy. The welded on nuts were not threaded properly and I did not get the bolts to engage properly. I was too lazy to take the thing apart again and left it as is. Despite having some play in it, it has remained solid enough over the last year.

My only complaint is that it is a tad too close to me and is a bit uncomfortable at times. It is however, very effective at keeping you in the seat.

[fastblackmerc]

It does mount to existing bolt locations in the footwell and is fairly sturdy. The welded on nuts were not threaded properly and I did not get the bolts to engage properly. I was too lazy to take the thing apart again and left it as is. Despite having some play in it, it has remained solid enough over the last year.

My only complaint is that it is a tad too close to me and is a bit uncomfortable at times. It is however, very effective at keeping you in the seat.
I installed a Mustang dead pedal I got off of eBay ($5.00 + $3.00 s&p). I had to cut the kick panel and reroute some wiring connectors but you can't see it. I bolted it in with 1/4-20 stainless bolts, nylock nuts & washers. Sturdy as all heck.... The DynoPro's pedal cover fits perfectly. I'll post some pics as soon as I get home from this business trip.....

[gonzo50]

I've seen what KB has to offer and I'm pretty disapointed.

I've seen pictures and for $75 it may be worth it to some, but I'd pay much more to have something much stronger. The pictures make it look weak and generic......


KB Dead Pedal..................

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47
I have the KB Dead Pedal, had it since 03', am very pleased with it and it's very strong and durable.

The picture doesn't do it any justice as far as how strong it is, believe me, it's strong, I use it all the time.

Do a search on the KB Dead Pedal and you will get a bunch of info on it.

[Bradley G]

Thanks for the pics. Gonzo!
I guess being 6'7" and wearing a size 15 , I can't see any benefit, to putting one on.

[mpearce]

I guess being 6'7" and wearing a size 15 , I can't see any benefit, to putting one on.
Your real name is SHAQ isn't it??

:D

-Mat

[Bradley G]

Hey Mat!

You know He's waaay better look'in .:baaa:
What's the guy's name with no arm.....Na, you heard it:D


Your real name is SHAQ isn't it??

:D

-Mat

[Svashtar]

Well, at 6' 8" and 335 pounds (down from 360!) I have Bradley beat. I got the KB pedal, even though my legs were plenty long, and it _was_ too close to me and felt awkward, so I figured I would tweak it and tried to get it out. I should have thought to run a tap thru the welded on nuts prior to install but didn't. When I tried to unbolt the allen head screws, they would not back out at all. I spent a nightmarish couple of hours tearing at them with every tool I had, but they were stuck solid. A Craftsman screw out just tore a hole in the head. They would not move. I ended up having to take a cut-off wheel to them, and since they were all the way in I had to go in at an angle which tore up the mounting plate and the kick panel.

Finally got the thing out (why KB would leave the threads in the welded on nuts in this condition amazes me. I guess they figure you'll never take it out?) and used a grinder and buffer to clean up most of the marks on the mount. Then did the leg adj. work and moved the location of the mounting holes back (down when sitting) as far as I could, drilled two more mounting holes and used JB weld to mount nylon nuts to those holes. Painted the whole thing gloss black, bought a new kickplate for $15 from the dealer, used the shreds of the old kickplate as a template as the KB supplied template was off, put a Dyno Pro pedal cover on it, and re-installed it.

It now sits a little more than 2" further down towards the floor than in its stock config, and is a rock solid comfortable rest for my size 13 foot, and looks very nice. I have really put some weight on it, and it has not moved a bit. I don't think my foot would be as secure just on the carpet, and with the dyno-pro grippy cover my foot feels locked in.

I do think for what you get the KB dead pedal is about $25 overpriced, but no one twisted my arm to buy it. It does what it is advertised to do very well.

Regards,

Norm

[Bradley G]

That's some great info Norm!

I would concider a dead pedal for me if it would rest flat to the floor.
As is, the emergency brake pedal digs into my leg where I would normally rest my left foot.
I move my left foot to the right a bit, to avoid the contact with left leg and the emergency brake pedal.
In the position I rest my left foot,I think it would not be positioned to rest on the dead pedal.
But you're Bigger than I am Norm, I have long legs and big feet.
You may be longer in the torso.
Who else hates the emergengy brake pedal digging into thier left leg?

[huot5]

the KB dead pedal is also one of my first mods. it does seem expensive at first ( KB is very well known, so his stuff sells for premium $$)

BUT, it seem the R & D was put to good use. the bracket underneath holds up to alot of weight. it does bolt to metal thru the plastic kick panel. I guess from the big guys writing here, it could be a couple inches lower in the footwell.
(I'm a measly 5'10', 175 lb ) so it's working for me.

Rider90, you may save some money searching around, but consider you can have a new piece installed in 3- 4 days. ( get the dynopro covers and sill plates on SALE this month; I think I will order the sills for my car finally)
either way, good luck.

[Rider90]

Who else hates the emergengy brake pedal digging into thier left leg?
Right Here!

Rider90, you may save some money searching around, but consider you can have a new piece installed in 3- 4 days. ( get the dynopro covers and sill plates on SALE this month; I think I will order the sills for my car finally)
I have the covers and they are of very high quality. I'll be checking out a KB Dead Pedal in person later this month. Maybe I'll order one, maybe I'll put some time into a new idea...we'll see. Thanks

[Rider90]

Bringing life to an oldie.


I sat in Mac's car and checked out the Kenny Brown Dead Pedal and placed my order today. It was much stronger than the pictures make it to be, and once I get it in my hands I will check it out and see what could be made even stronger. Even if left alone, I would be satisfied, but who knows if I'll be satisfied in a hard turn at an on-the-edge speed with all of my weight leaning into it. Shall I keep you posted?

[Rider90]

The two bolts that came in the box, attached to the assembly, throw them away. They do not fit the nuts that are welded on, perhaps this is why they hardly screwed them on during assembly. So toss the bolts and bring the assembly to the hardware store and find the ones that fit. I just so happened to have some in my garage.

I installed it and took it for a spin. One problem I don't like is that when I'm wearing softer shoes and not my boots, I can feel the sides of the bolt heads through the shoe. This is rather painful when hitting a turn hard and you want to brace up against it. I tried moving my foot away from the bolt heads and then the problem is that the pedal is too weak that far away from the wall, hence I have the habit already of placing it on the pedal up against the kick panel.

I'm 6'2" and I have a size 13 foot, I am not really complaining about the distance from my seat since I'm already all the way back but when I cram my foot on the pedal I guess comfort has to be in the form of lodging it behind the E-Brake. I can't say if that's good or bad yet, I've only spent about ten minutes in the car. Perhaps this pedal is just meant to use the "ball" of your foot.

Also be careful when tightening. This pedal's base relies on the two holes that the hood release cable is attached to. It is pretty strong, but was not made for a dead pedal, so be careful. No complaints about the template, shipping time was awesome, but the bolts supplied should be able to thread into the nuts without re-threading or the need to get different bolts.

[FordNut]

The two bolts that came in the box, attached to the assembly, throw them away. They do not fit the nuts that are welded on, perhaps this is why they hardly screwed them on during assembly. So toss the bolts and bring the assembly to the hardware store and find the ones that fit. I just so happened to have some in my garage.

I installed it and took it for a spin. One problem I don't like is that when I'm wearing softer shoes and not my boots, I can feel the sides of the bolt heads through the shoe. This is rather painful when hitting a turn hard and you want to brace up against it. I tried moving my foot away from the bolt heads and then the problem is that the pedal is too weak that far away from the wall, hence I have the habit already of placing it on the pedal up against the kick panel.

I'm 6'2" and I have a size 13 foot, I am not really complaining about the distance from my seat since I'm already all the way back but when I cram my foot on the pedal I guess comfort has to be in the form of lodging it behind the E-Brake. I can't say if that's good or bad yet, I've only spent about ten minutes in the car. Perhaps this pedal is just meant to use the "ball" of your foot.

Also be careful when tightening. This pedal's base relies on the two holes that the hood release cable is attached to. It is pretty strong, but was not made for a dead pedal, so be careful. No complaints about the template, shipping time was awesome, but the bolts supplied should be able to thread into the nuts without re-threading or the need to get different bolts.I used the rounded head allen bolts, they're much smoother.

[Rider90]

I used the rounded head allen bolts, they're much smoother.
Ah yes, if I had used the smooth ones I'd probably be in better shape... Hmm.

[fastblackmerc]

The two bolts that came in the box, attached to the assembly, throw them away. They do not fit the nuts that are welded on, perhaps this is why they hardly screwed them on during assembly. So toss the bolts and bring the assembly to the hardware store and find the ones that fit. I just so happened to have some in my garage.

I installed it and took it for a spin. One problem I don't like is that when I'm wearing softer shoes and not my boots, I can feel the sides of the bolt heads through the shoe. This is rather painful when hitting a turn hard and you want to brace up against it. I tried moving my foot away from the bolt heads and then the problem is that the pedal is too weak that far away from the wall, hence I have the habit already of placing it on the pedal up against the kick panel.

I'm 6'2" and I have a size 13 foot, I am not really complaining about the distance from my seat since I'm already all the way back but when I cram my foot on the pedal I guess comfort has to be in the form of lodging it behind the E-Brake. I can't say if that's good or bad yet, I've only spent about ten minutes in the car. Perhaps this pedal is just meant to use the "ball" of your foot.

Also be careful when tightening. This pedal's base relies on the two holes that the hood release cable is attached to. It is pretty strong, but was not made for a dead pedal, so be careful. No complaints about the template, shipping time was awesome, but the bolts supplied should be able to thread into the nuts without re-threading or the need to get different bolts.
I installed my Mustang dead pedal to the metal behind the kick panel using stainless steel hardware (allen-head bolts, nylock nuts and fender washers). I actually spent the same amount on the mounting hardware as I did on the dead pedal. I did have to modify the kick panel. It's extremely solid (I'm 5'11" & 240lbs).

[Bowman9]

I installed my Mustang dead pedal to the metal behind the kick panel using stainless steel hardware (allen-head bolts, nylock nuts and fender washers). I actually spent the same amount on the mounting hardware as I did on the dead pedal. I did have to modify the kick panel. It's extremely solid (I'm 5'11" & 240lbs).

Do you have any pics?

[fastblackmerc]

Finally got the pics. Could not get a clear shot of the mounting because of the position & wires. As you can see I did not use allen-head bolts, just 1/4-20 stainlless steel bolts, nyloc nuts and fender washers.

[BigCars4Ever]

How about this. I made this pedal. It bolts in behind the plastic wire harness holder. The pedal bolts to a custom bent 9/16" steel rod. It's strong as hell. This was my prototype. After the holidays I'm having a few made by a local fabricator. I'll replace the one in my car, add one to my wife's 2000 GM. The new one will have fewer holes cause it looks a little busy but other than that they'll be the same.

[frdwrnch]

I made mine from the gas pedal from a 98 Escort. After removing the pedal from the bracket I inverted it, cut off the extra steel and welded it to the rocker. Didn't have to modify the kick panel or carpet. Took 30 minutes. After I replace my lost camera upload cable I'll post a pic. There may still be a picture in the archives from when I first made it.

[cougarmandan]

I was wanting a dead pedal too. I however don't care for the brushed aluminum pedal look. I actually was looking on ebay tonight at different Ford pedals. I would love to have a set of Harley Davidson Ford Truck pedals. However, I don't believe they will fit no matter how hard you try. THe nice thing about one set I was looking at, I think it was the F-250 (F-150 and F-250 are different pedals)was the gas pedal was square enough to be used as suitable cover/pad for the dead pedal. I was thinking I bet I can make it work, but after I went and looked at the Marauder, it has a hugh brake pedal pad. It got to be 12-15 square inches. No way it would ever fit with out some serious grinding. Anyone have an extra Grand marque break pedal arm to experiment with?

Also, food for through (probably just empty calories though), Ford SVT Focus dead pedal are on ebay and they have the whole brushed aluminum look. That might be an alternative to the ones listed here.

[Rider90]

I was wanting a dead pedal too. I however don't care for the brushed aluminum pedal look. I actually was looking on ebay tonight at different Ford pedals. I would love to have a set of Harley Davidson Ford Truck pedals. However, I don't believe they will fit no matter how hard you try. THe nice thing about one set I was looking at, I think it was the F-250 (F-150 and F-250 are different pedals)was the gas pedal was square enough to be used as suitable cover/pad for the dead pedal. I was thinking I bet I can make it work, but after I went and looked at the Marauder, it has a hugh brake pedal pad. It got to be 12-15 square inches. No way it would ever fit with out some serious grinding. Anyone have an extra Grand marque break pedal arm to experiment with?

Also, food for through (probably just empty calories though), Ford SVT Focus dead pedal are on ebay and they have the whole brushed aluminum look. That might be an alternative to the ones listed here.

Steer clear of the HD pedals, that is, if they are the OEM pedals off the 04 F-250 HD or just like it with the slotted rubber inserts. The rubber falls off...I know this from a wonderful experience when my shoes were wet...

[DEFYANT]

I had a pissazz day at work yesterday, so when I came home, off to the Man Room I went!

I finally put together a dead pedal. I had made this for my ole marked CVPI and it worked very well. I turned that car in and removed my equipment. Well what works on the CVPI, works on the MM in this case. Here is a pic:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/Defyant/DCP_1677.jpg

[Starman]

One of the guys on CrownVic.net came up with this idea which I plan to do to my P71.

"Went all crazy and came up with something that works for me!
Did some quick measurements (eyeballin' most of em) and found out that a Mazda RX-8 'foot rest' (~$15) fits pretty good on the floor of a CV.
Some minor adjusting/trimming of the part, a few drilled holes and some self-tapping screws, and I have a very sturdy place to rest my left foot, or a very sturdy brace for hard cornering.
My size 11W fits fine between the e-brake pedal and the dead pedal, and in no time it's become a very natural feeling to slide my foot in there as soon as I get in the car.
Only problem I have is it's a little TOO upright as where my toes and front of my foot rest on the pedal but I hafta put my heel on the floor to have my foot at a comfortable angle. It can be adjusted, but I dont wanna drill anymore holes!"