405 HP, Thank you Jerry.

[Smokie]

My first dyno run after Trilogy.

[marauderboi]

Nice #'s Is this after a tune or stock either way nice power

[Smokie]

Nice #'s Is this after a tune or stock either way nice power
Thanks, the Kit is stock, I have a PHP airbox and exhaust work.:)

[Dan]

It seems kind odd to see a DR Dyno used to test a Trilogy car, doesn't it? :)

Anyway, shouldn't one expect a higher number from a Trilogy than 405 RWHP?

Dan

[jgc61sr2002]

Javier - Great numbers. :D Congrats. :up:

[Smokie]

...Anyway, shouldn't one expect a higher number from a Trilogy than 405 RWHP?

Dan
I don't know. maybe some of the guys with Trilogy's can answer that question.:)

[MarauderMark]

Congrats Javier:up: Sunny Florida the Trilogized state.. :D

[Smokie]

Thank you both, John and Mark.:D

[Hotrauder]

My first dyno run after Trilogy.
Congrats and thank you for the SHOW!!! at Dennis' and Gainesville....Wasn't bad at Whitey's either!!

:beer:
the other Dennis
member Sunshine State Marauders

[Smokie]

Congrats and thank you for the SHOW!!! at Dennis' and Gainesville....Wasn't bad at Whitey's either!!

:beer:
the other Dennis
member Sunshine State Marauders
Whitey's was fun...they had beer there!!!!!:beer:

[MarauderTJA]

My first dyno run after Trilogy.
Great numbers Javier. :beer: You should make better HP when it cools down. Wish I could have made it to Gainesville with you guys. I AM looking forward to Atlanta Dragway in November.

TOM, Cape Coral, Florida

[BillyGman]

Congrats Smokie. Your car is pushing 5 more HP than mine is, and 14 FT/LBS more torque. To answer dan's question......NO...the standard Trilogy set-up yields 9.5 PSI of boost (which is also what my car has) and 380-385 RWHP. And in fact that's also what it states in the Trilogy installation manual. Because my car has extensive exhaust work, and Smokie's car has exhaust and intake work, both of our cars are churning out some more power.


It's the Trilogy customers who have the race gas tunes, as well as the smaller blower pullies installed which yield 11-13 PSI of boost (depending on which pulley they chose) who are getting 430-500+ RWHP figures. As for me, I'm satisfied with my daily driven pump gas 400 RWHP Marauder. I've yet to run across a daily driven vehicle around here that can keep up with my car from a standstill, or from a 70 MPH roll. I won't say that it can never happen, but after 23,000 supercharged miles, it hasn't yet. ;)

[Smokie]

Great numbers Javier. :beer: You should make better HP when it cools down. Wish I could have made it to Gainesville with you guys. I AM looking forward to Atlanta Dragway in November.

TOM, Cape Coral, Florida
Thanks Tom, I hope Atlanta is cooler than Gainesville was....man it was hot.:fire:

[MM03MOK]

It seems kind odd to see a DR Dyno used to test a Trilogy car, doesn't it? :)

Anyway, shouldn't one expect a higher number from a Trilogy than 405 RWHP?

DanNot odd at all, Dan. Thanks.

#61 is 380 RWHP (Cobra manifolds, high flow cats, Flowmaster 40s) and stock Trilogies, with no other mods, are less than that. I recall Lidio saying stock was between 350 and 370.

Smokie is smokin'!!! WTG, Javier! So good to see you and Mayra!

[Smokie]

Billy: Thanks, I need to learn to apply the power to the pavement.:D

Mary: It was a pleasure to spend time with you and Bob again.....and way to rip down that track.....:burnout:

[BillyGman]

Billy: Thanks, I need to learn to apply the power to the pavement.:D

You'll get it down pat Javier, soon enough. The more experience you get using the boost, the better you'll get at it. Ofcourse the choice of tires will always be a big factor. But if you're someone who only drives your Marauder once or twice per month, then it's probably going to take you a lot longer to get the hang of it. It's just a matter of when.

[Smokie]

You'll get it down pat Javier, soon enough. The more experience you get using the boost, the better you'll get at it. Ofcourse the choice of tires will always be a big factor. But if you're someone who only drives your Marauder once or twice per month, then it's probably going to take you a lot longer to get the hang of it. It's just a matter of when.True, I drive the MM. only once a week. I have my work cutout for me before the shootout....the launch is everything.

[BillyGman]

True, I drive the MM. only once a week. I have my work cutout for me before the shootout....the launch is everything.In my experience on the track with a 4.56 gear equipped roots supercharged Marauder, the Launch is pretty consistent with the drag radials. Pardon my boldness Javier, but I hope you're not planning on going up against those Impala SS boys with a S/Ced marauder without drag radials. Because if you are, then I think you might as well stay home, or just get a ride there to go and watch.;)

[Smokie]

I'm going to the Shootout because of the people I hang out with and I take my car to see what I can do. I enjoy being there, I don't expect to win anything.

My first Shootout was in '03 and my first time ever in a race track, I ran brackets and was eliminated in the 3rd round. I lost because I broke out, I actually crossed the finish line first.

I enjoy being there, my wife loves it. That's all it means to me. I leave the serious stuff...to the serious guys.:D

[Glenn]

Smokie:

You are welcome to pull off my widened Nitto 295s for a run at SSHS5. They are certainly not as good as 305s, but much better then stock BFG or even the 255s. I will be there to have some fun with the less able Impala SS. I won 4 rounds last year and only lost after I lowered my et and then broke-out. My goal is at least 13.9 this year.

Glenn

[Smokie]

Smokie:

You are welcome to pull off my widened Nitto 295s for a run at SSHS5. They are certainly not as good as 305s, but much better then stock BFG or even the 255s. I will be there to have some fun with the less able Impala SS. I won 4 rounds last year and only lost after I lowered my et and then broke-out. My goal is at least 13.9 this year.

GlennGlenn, thanks for the offer, I know the car can run in the high 12's...problem is I run in the mid 13's...I am curious what my car could do with better tires.:burnout:

[BillyGman]

I'm going to the Shootout because of the people I hang out with and I take my car to see what I can do. I enjoy being there, I don't expect to win anything.

Then I hope you're still having a good time when the 60' times of atleast half of your 3-5 runs that you'll get in will be in the 2.0 second range which is about what the stock Marauders do.:cool: No sense even practicing your launch in that case, because with the standard radials it's a matter of hit or miss anyway. A good luck charm might serve you better....... Uh ho....DE JA VU(sp?)...I think we had this discussion on the SVT board. Didn't we? Anyways, I stated my viewpoint, so I think it's time for me to move on....have fun Javier, and again, congrats on your excellent power #'s.

[Jerry Barnes]

Smokie,

Congratulations on your dyno run! Those numbers look very consistent with someone that has a stock kit with exhaust work done. I agree with Billy, if you want to improve your times you will really need wider rims and Nitto 305's running 18-20 lbs. pressure. When everyone asks me what is the second mod I would recommend, my answer is always rims and Nitto's.

To Dan's comment. Our stock kits typically gives you 375-390 RWHP depending on several factors, fuel, temp., etc. If you are in that area you are in good shape. 405 HP with cold air kit and exhaust sounds right. And you can expect to see 15%-18% more power at the crank. And Dan, our biggest objectives were: good reliability in a streetable 4 door sedan without living at the dealership or speed shop. This project was not intended to create a dragster. I feel confident we have met our objectives and we have some very happy customers to prove it!

Smokie, I would appreciate it if you would give me a call at the office tomorrow. Myself and several others have tested, tested, tested many combinations of mods in a variety of conditions. I understand you want good results, let's talk about your direction.

Sorry I have been absent for awhile, but I had some family matters to take care of.

Sincerely,

Jerry

[sailsmen]

Smoky take their advice.

I tried the DR for the 1st time ever on Sat and it made the launches so much easier, almost like N/A!

Ps Your MM is a real beauty!

[RoyLPita]

Nice dyno run, Javier. This can get a man thinking.....

[Dan]

Jerry,

Thanks for your reply. I guess I just go so used to hearing higher numbers from the other guys that I thought those were the spec.

Dan

[Smokie]

Jerry,

Thanks for your reply. I guess I just go so used to hearing higher numbers from the other guys that I thought those were the spec.

DanDan, the hp number is ok, there are folks here close to 700 hp, so it's not a number that you jump up and down about.
The part of the chart that impresses me personally and for the most part have not recieved any attention is the Torque.

The dyno operator started the run at 2000 rpms, thats when he stabbed the pedal and the torque jumped instantly to almost 350 ft/lbs, the line is almost instantly vertical....if you can find a graph with a faster/higher torque response I would like to see it*.:D

* I am sure they exist, I just would like to see it.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75 90

[Bradley G]

Yeah Smokie!

Trilogy torque is one of a kind,Mikes Merc showed me his dyno with a shot of NOS @ MVIII it looks like yours, except it continues to climb another 200 foot pounds!:eek:

[RF Overlord]

It seems kind odd to see a DR Dyno used to test a Trilogy car, doesn't it? Why? Dennis and his super crew (Steve, Artur, and Terry)will gladly install Trilogy kits. They're not hung up on trying to prove one kit is above all the rest. In fact, they just installed a Magnuson Magna-Charger (Eaton) on a brand new Avalanch...and a mighty nice job it was, too! :burnout:

[BillyGman]

Smoky take their advice.

I tried the DR for the 1st time ever on Sat and it made the launches so much easier, almost like N/A!

AAAAAAHHHH.....someone here is listening. :) The main thing is that you're able to put all that extra power that the S/Cer gave you to the ground. That extra power is completely going to waste during the first 60' or even 330' if you're using standard radials on the back. With the standard radials, you might get lucky once in awhile and hook-up a little but luck plays such a big role that it's rediculous to count on that. Leave the stock radials to the N/A Marauders. They do fine with them at the dragstrip since they don't have the low-end power to break em loose on the track anyway. When you get supercharged, you need the drag radials atleast for the track.

[Smokie]

AAAAAAHHHH.....someone here is listening. :) The main thing is that you're able to put all that extra power that the S/Cer gave you to the ground. That extra power is completely going to waste during the first 60' or even 330' if you're using standard radials on the back. With the standard radials, you might get lucky once in awhile and hook-up a little but luck plays such a big role that it's rediculous to count on that. Leave the stock radials to the N/A Marauders. They do fine with them at the dragstrip since they don't have the low-end power to break em loose on the track anyway. When you get supercharged, you need the drag radials atleast for the track.Billy, I'm a good listener :) You and others here are providing EXCELLENT advice when it comes to wider wheels and D/R's...I believe what you are saying is on the money.

I may one day buy wider wheels and D/R's....I felt about playing baseball as a younger man exactly the way you feel about going to the track today.....going to the track for me is no different than going to a picnic with my friends...being there is what matters to me.:beer:

[BillyGman]

Billy, I'm a good listener :) You and others here are providing EXCELLENT advice when it comes to wider wheels and D/R's...I believe what you are saying is on the money.

I may one day buy wider wheels and D/R's....I felt about playing baseball as a younger man exactly the way you feel about going to the track today.....going to the track for me is no different than going to a picnic with my friends...being there is what matters to me.:beer:I hear ya Javier.

[03whitemach]

Why? Dennis and his super crew (Steve, Artur, and Terry)will gladly install Trilogy kits. They're not hung up on trying to prove one kit is above all the rest. In fact, they just installed a Magnuson Magna-Charger (Eaton) on a brand new Avalanch...and a mighty nice job it was, too! :burnout:
I was going to comment on that one myself. Last I checked Dennis and Jerry get along just fine, its the Trilogy owners and the other S/C owners that argue.
Honestly, I like both kits, not one more than the other.

Anyhow, I only beat one car this past weekend, and it was the last race of the day for me. It was not an S/C car and since he doesn't belong to this site I can bust on him...J/K

Mach on!!!!

P.s. It was nice meeting everyone. Great numbers Javier. Hope to see you and the rest of the gang soon, and in a lot cooler weather.

[Smokie]

... It was nice meeting everyone. Great numbers Javier. Hope to see you and the rest of the gang soon, and in a lot cooler weather.Thanks, same here, we are thinking of doing a Tampa Bay Area get together when it cools down a bit, maybe a park in Tarpon Springs area, hope you can attend. Javier.

[Dan]

I agree and am fully aware that both Dennis and Jerry to be consumate professionals.

I am also aware of the fact that there has been some controvery amongst the grouop here. Enough to make discussions comparing the two almost illicit conversation on this forum.

So, it was from that point of view that I highlighted the oddness. Please don't think anything more of it than that. :)

Best,

Dan

[03whitemach]

I agree and am fully aware that both Dennis and Jerry to be consumate professionals.

I am also aware of the fact that there has been some controvery amongst the grouop here. Enough to make discussions comparing the two almost illicit conversation on this forum.

So, it was from that point of view that I highlighted the oddness. Please don't think anything more of it than that. :)

Best,

Dan
Well said, Dan. We don't want to start a riot.
You missed a good time. Well, alot of people missed a good time.