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LiLWrink
09-19-2005, 10:39 AM
Hey Guys,

I am possibly buying a Marauder this afternoon after work...Can I join your club too? will I have to pay dues twice now?

I was called at home (by my mother, who is a little senile...) and asked if I would be interested in this old car. I personally knew these folks, that she was telling me about. My mother told me, the car was offered to me basically just to get it off the property so the house can be sold. (which I am going to do immediatly (!) upon procurement of the title...)

It a 63 or 64 (i dont know which), 4-V, 390 4-speed Marauder...I dont know about the trim package or other options yet.

I was told that it was original except for the cast iron headers, her dad had them installed with a engine overhaul in 1972. The marauder was running 2 years ago, when it was last inspected. The car has been in a garage for the last 20 years, and has 61,??? miles showing on the clock.

It has some electrical problems due to mice.

The old folks have sadly Passed away, and thier daughters, who have moved off, and are unable to keep up with the estate, are selling out, and splitting the money.

I just had to post. I will have more info tomorrow.

(Big car, 390/4barrel, and a floor shifter! Giggle, giggle!!!)

mcb26
09-19-2005, 11:23 AM
Sounds good, The wiring could be a problem. It's hard to find someone to rewire a ford or merc.

RoyLPita
09-19-2005, 11:30 AM
I hope that you could post some pics of the this rare classic.

LiLWrink
09-19-2005, 01:19 PM
Roy,
I did not know the Marauder was considered to be rare???

Please elaborate...I have time.

MCB,
I would probly just get the rolls, and sit in the middle of the shop floor and create my own copy of the old harness. That is the method that I used with the most success in the past...either that or phone Ron Francis.

IF I take the deal--I havent SEEN this car yet--I will need to get it home and evaluate what I have to work with.

I had expected some of the Lone Star guys to see this post...I know them from the Cougar club meetings, and I wonder "where the heck are they today?"

ckadiddle
09-19-2005, 01:19 PM
Bizarre! That's exactly how I ended up with a 1960 mercury monterey montclair years ago.

RoyLPita
09-19-2005, 04:26 PM
I believe that there are ways to find out how many MMs were made between 63 and 66. With the 4 speed, what you are getting is a rare survivor, no matter what the numbers are.

rocknrod
09-19-2005, 08:10 PM
You had BETTER get a hold of this!

If your near the DFW area, I can help you out with wiring.
Good at it.

LiLWrink
09-20-2005, 06:35 AM
Rockin Rod, I live in Van Alstyne, and work in Frisco...we should hook up, and talk shop/flip burgers some evening...

Everyone,

This has turned out to be a strange story! and the story has changed...BUT I am now the proud owner of a 1963 Marauder...and I still dont know exactly what the car began life as, and because all FE's look the same to me, I haven't yet identifed the engine. The car is in very good shape, considering... There is a wrinkle in the passenger rear quarter, the grill is presently AWOL, and there is some trim missing as well...No Rust, clear Texas title, and I aquired many extra parts and pieces from other Marauders with the deal.

Here is the story!

I had been told by my mother, who is getting a little senile with her age, (OK she is getting a LOT senile in her old age! ) the car was part of an estate sale. As it turnes out the car was next door to the estate sale, which my mother had been to, and one of the girls she was talking to was no relation to the folks with this estate sale, BUT SHE lived NEXT DOOR, and that is where My Mother saw the Marauder. So that is where I went!

The seller IS very much alive, and to make a long story short, was getting rid of the excess stuff he had collected over the years, including this Marauder...BUT he had allready sold the car to another ol' boy! (DAMMIT!!!)

Stay with me, this really gets confusing!

So we were standing there appraising the neatness, and complete-ness of this car, because it, along with others, had been designated/used as a parts car. And this car had been assembled from parts of the other cars that had been sent to the crusher, as a secondary sale prospect, that just didnt happen--at least til last night... And I was cussing about missing the oportunity, when it was mentioned that all the buyer wanted was the 9" rear end, and that he had said that he would dispose of the old Marauder by having it crushed after he parted the rear end from it...I have a pile of complete Ford 9"ers at my shop, so I asked for this man's phone number, and when I got back home I called him. I had to leave him a message and wait-forever--BUT he did call me back, and within one minite I had "hoss traded" a 9" rear end and a hundred dollars for this 63 Marauder--He got his rear end, and I got my car...talk about a sweet business deal!

Bear in mind, that I dont care what the model, or trim package the Marauder is supposed to be...I have my own idea's...and numbers correct stuff means very little to me. I have always wanted a 1963 1/2, S55, and whether this one was or not...doesnt matter to me. This car could possible be a 1964, and I have been told the S55 package was not sold in 1964?

But I would like to ask you good folks to verify some factual information for me, if it is possible. Please?

I was told that it was a Super Marauder--I think all of those had 427's...this one does not--at least I dont think so.(the motor has been swapped. could this have originally been a 410 car? I was told at one time the car had a Tri-power three duece carburator, and still retains the cast Iron "headers"

I was told that it was an S55--but it has a bench seat, and an auto matic transmission at present...I have been told all the S55's came with buckets, consol, and 4-speeds...this Marauder does not presently have any of those things--but it may have been a swap victem. Is there any way to tell?

There will be things I will be searching for, and things I will have for sale, after I figure out what I have, or have not...

Soooo, anticipation excites me. I certainly have enjoyed the little adventure.
I will post more, when I know more...
Thanks to anyone with information!

Shane:woohoo:

add sig line...

cyclone03
09-20-2005, 06:53 AM
Wow LilWrink sounds like you need to go back to the guy you got the car from and poke around awhile and see what you find.
That missing 427 and 4spd may be out in the back shed under a pet carrier....


Still a great find BTW.

kirk
09-20-2005, 04:51 PM
Rockin Rod, I live in Van Alstyne, and work in Frisco...we should hook up, and talk shop/flip burgers some evening...

Everyone,

This has turned out to be a strange story! and the story has changed...BUT I am now the proud owner of a 1963 Marauder...and I still dont know exactly what the car began life as, and because all FE's look the same to me, I haven't yet identifed the engine. The car is in very good shape, considering... There is a wrinkle in the passenger rear quarter, the grill is presently AWOL, and there is some trim missing as well...No Rust, clear Texas title, and I aquired many extra parts and pieces from other Marauders with the deal.

Here is the story!

I had been told by my mother, who is getting a little senile with her age, (OK she is getting a LOT senile in her old age! ) the car was part of an estate sale. As it turnes out the car was next door to the estate sale, which my mother had been to, and one of the girls she was talking to was no relation to the folks with this estate sale, BUT SHE lived NEXT DOOR, and that is where My Mother saw the Marauder. So that is where I went!

The seller IS very much alive, and to make a long story short, was getting rid of the excess stuff he had collected over the years, including this Marauder...BUT he had allready sold the car to another ol' boy! (DAMMIT!!!)

Stay with me, this really gets confusing!

So we were standing there appraising the neatness, and complete-ness of this car, because it, along with others, had been designated/used as a parts car. And this car had been assembled from parts of the other cars that had been sent to the crusher, as a secondary sale prospect, that just didnt happen--at least til last night... And I was cussing about missing the oportunity, when it was mentioned that all the buyer wanted was the 9" rear end, and that he had said that he would dispose of the old Marauder by having it crushed after he parted the rear end from it...I have a pile of complete Ford 9"ers at my shop, so I asked for this man's phone number, and when I got back home I called him. I had to leave him a message and wait-forever--BUT he did call me back, and within one minite I had "hoss traded" a 9" rear end and a hundred dollars for this 63 Marauder--He got his rear end, and I got my car...talk about a sweet business deal!

Bear in mind, that I dont care what the model, or trim package the Marauder is supposed to be...I have my own idea's...and numbers correct stuff means very little to me. I have always wanted a 1963 1/2, S55, and whether this one was or not...doesnt matter to me. This car could possible be a 1964, and I have been told the S55 package was not sold in 1964?

But I would like to ask you good folks to verify some factual information for me, if it is possible. Please?

I was told that it was a Super Marauder--I think all of those had 427's...this one does not--at least I dont think so.(the motor has been swapped. could this have originally been a 410 car? I was told at one time the car had a Tri-power three duece carburator, and still retains the cast Iron "headers"

I was told that it was an S55--but it has a bench seat, and an auto matic transmission at present...I have been told all the S55's came with buckets, consol, and 4-speeds...this Marauder does not presently have any of those things--but it may have been a swap victem. Is there any way to tell?

There will be things I will be searching for, and things I will have for sale, after I figure out what I have, or have not...

Soooo, anticipation excites me. I certainly have enjoyed the little adventure.
I will post more, when I know more...
Thanks to anyone with information!

Shane:woohoo:

Shane,

If you PM me with all of the info off of your "warranty" plate on the driver's door jam I can tell you exactly what you have purchased. Any '63 or '64 Marauder with a 4-speed is indeed a relatively rare car. You can find parts if you know what's interchangeable. I can help with that also. Let's start by finding out what you have.

Kirk

LiLWrink
10-08-2005, 10:25 PM
I am tearing the front clip down to do some body work and painting, I will have some other work to do also while it is down...I will be all winter and probly next spring at this. It will be slow progress because of the other projects that I have in motion at this moment.

Anybody see 63 Marauder trim pieces for sale, please let me know.

Thanks
Shane

rayjay
10-09-2005, 01:01 AM
I came very close to buying a 1963 1/2 Marauder to go with my 04 DTR. It was also red. It had the 390 2v engine, ATX with front bench seat. It was in exceptional shape for this part of the country. The rear lower quarters had been bondo'd and were starting to bubble. The interior was very good except for a 6" seam split in the front seat. I said to the owner "when was the vynil roof installed" the answer was at the factory... It looked like new! I just did not have the room in my garage or the time to redo her. The owner was the salesman that sold it back in 1963 and bought it from her grandson five years ago. It was always garaged and saw very few, if any winters. As of aboout two weeks ago it was still on his lot. He is selling off some of his private collection before he retires. If anyone is interested in the car, PM me and I will put you in contact with him.
Best of luck with your find!:coolman:

fastblackmerc
10-09-2005, 06:19 AM
I am tearing the front clip down to do some body work and painting, I will have some other work to do also while it is down...I will be all winter and probly next spring at this. It will be slow progress because of the other projects that I have in motion at this moment.

Anybody see 63 Marauder trim pieces for sale, please let me know.

Thanks
Shane
There seems to always be alot of older Marauder's & parts on eBay.

Vortex
10-09-2005, 10:17 AM
Congrats on your purchase!

LiLWrink
10-10-2005, 01:50 PM
I am going to need a passenger side front fender...

Logan
10-10-2005, 04:08 PM
Behold! I am here... I just have nothing to say except... Hi!

Redster
10-10-2005, 05:38 PM
(Big car, 390/4barrel, and a floor shifter! Giggle, giggle!!!)[/QUOTE]

Superb!!!!

Johnman
10-11-2005, 07:20 PM
Hey, LILWrink, I've got a 1/25 scale unbuilt model of a '64 two-door Marauder that I picked up at a swap meet a couple of years ago. It is a 1995 reissue of the old AMT original kit, in reproduction box and everything. If you're interested, I'll give it to you for free (if you've really bought the car). It would be cool to display the model box with the car even if you don't build the model. I would've offered to paint and build the model to match your car (though not for free!), but I haven't built a model in years and my skills are rusty...

LiLWrink
10-14-2005, 11:59 AM
There I was, down in wrinks-hell(the shop...) sanding some really incredibly tuff black stuff off of the fenders of the old Rita...and the thought crossed my mind-if those old race car guys had painted thier cars with this stuff....Hey! there is an idea for someone with cajones!

I probly wont do it...but it would be cool to have it painted like Parnelli Jones old race car!

LiLWrink
11-07-2005, 07:39 PM
all fenders have been sandblasted to bare metal and primered. the ones that I dont use will be ebay fodder, Inner fenders, and radiator support recieved the same treatment and are being held in place by one bolt at each corner. They will come back out when I start the engine removal.
I am searching and buying up missing trim parts needed to complete the car, and I am doing a lot of buffing work on both the marauder and the Cougar trim, as I have began working on the floorpans in my cougar in addition to the work I have going on the Marauder.

Just a piece or two with every afternoon sixpack...:beer:

rocknrod
11-07-2005, 09:14 PM
Well cool. Glad to hear you have it now.
Like I said I live close by, so if I can help PM me or e-mail me.
Thanks.

texascorvette
11-08-2005, 06:24 AM
that car came out while I was a Junior in HS. Hope you can find all the parts to fix it up, because it is a great looking car.
Rockin Rod, I live in Van Alstyne, and work in Frisco...we should hook up, and talk shop/flip burgers some evening...

Everyone,

This has turned out to be a strange story! and the story has changed...BUT I am now the proud owner of a 1963 Marauder...and I still dont know exactly what the car began life as, and because all FE's look the same to me, I haven't yet identifed the engine. The car is in very good shape, considering... There is a wrinkle in the passenger rear quarter, the grill is presently AWOL, and there is some trim missing as well...No Rust, clear Texas title, and I aquired many extra parts and pieces from other Marauders with the deal.

Here is the story!

I had been told by my mother, who is getting a little senile with her age, (OK she is getting a LOT senile in her old age! ) the car was part of an estate sale. As it turnes out the car was next door to the estate sale, which my mother had been to, and one of the girls she was talking to was no relation to the folks with this estate sale, BUT SHE lived NEXT DOOR, and that is where My Mother saw the Marauder. So that is where I went!

The seller IS very much alive, and to make a long story short, was getting rid of the excess stuff he had collected over the years, including this Marauder...BUT he had allready sold the car to another ol' boy! (DAMMIT!!!)

Stay with me, this really gets confusing!

So we were standing there appraising the neatness, and complete-ness of this car, because it, along with others, had been designated/used as a parts car. And this car had been assembled from parts of the other cars that had been sent to the crusher, as a secondary sale prospect, that just didnt happen--at least til last night... And I was cussing about missing the oportunity, when it was mentioned that all the buyer wanted was the 9" rear end, and that he had said that he would dispose of the old Marauder by having it crushed after he parted the rear end from it...I have a pile of complete Ford 9"ers at my shop, so I asked for this man's phone number, and when I got back home I called him. I had to leave him a message and wait-forever--BUT he did call me back, and within one minite I had "hoss traded" a 9" rear end and a hundred dollars for this 63 Marauder--He got his rear end, and I got my car...talk about a sweet business deal!

Bear in mind, that I dont care what the model, or trim package the Marauder is supposed to be...I have my own idea's...and numbers correct stuff means very little to me. I have always wanted a 1963 1/2, S55, and whether this one was or not...doesnt matter to me. This car could possible be a 1964, and I have been told the S55 package was not sold in 1964?

But I would like to ask you good folks to verify some factual information for me, if it is possible. Please?

I was told that it was a Super Marauder--I think all of those had 427's...this one does not--at least I dont think so.(the motor has been swapped. could this have originally been a 410 car? I was told at one time the car had a Tri-power three duece carburator, and still retains the cast Iron "headers"

I was told that it was an S55--but it has a bench seat, and an auto matic transmission at present...I have been told all the S55's came with buckets, consol, and 4-speeds...this Marauder does not presently have any of those things--but it may have been a swap victem. Is there any way to tell?

There will be things I will be searching for, and things I will have for sale, after I figure out what I have, or have not...

Soooo, anticipation excites me. I certainly have enjoyed the little adventure.
I will post more, when I know more...
Thanks to anyone with information!

Shane:woohoo:

add sig line...

LiLWrink
11-08-2005, 10:05 AM
Its a long process because of the way I am working on it as well as the cougar projects...
I have already located and bought the grill, some of the trim, and pulled the front clip off for sandblast and paint...
The engine did start and fire the other night...but it was immediatly turned off. I am thinking it is comeing out as well, the firewall looks like crap, and I hate that.

I did take some pictures, and I have got to go pick them up and get them posted;...

BTW, I will probly need lots of help with wiring, and debugging the electrical system... you are not by chance an electrical expert--retired from the Navy are you???

You live so close, you dont need a special invitation to come see the Rauder and visit...PM me for directions.:beer:

LiLWrink
11-28-2005, 02:52 PM
I finally got the grill and headlight rings, buckets,and backing assembly, and the doorsill plates, from my ebay friend up in Nebraska, who says that may be all I get till it quits freaking snowing, cuz he went out the other day and BRRRRrrrrrrrrr! 50-60 mph wind and freezing rain mixed with snow...

I think he is confused, that sounds like Texas to me?

Anyway, I have yet to clean them up, and get them buffed shiney. Then some minor straightening work for me to do this winter.

Just speculating--how many gallons of paint is required to paint a 63 Marauder?

texascorvette
11-28-2005, 06:08 PM
I finally got the grill and headlight rings, buckets,and backing assembly, and the doorsill plates, from my ebay friend up in Nebraska, who says that may be all I get till it quits freaking snowing, cuz he went out the other day and BRRRRrrrrrrrrr! 50-60 mph wind and freezing rain mixed with snow...

I think he is confused, that sounds like Texas to me?

Anyway, I have yet to clean them up, and get them buffed shiney. Then some minor straightening work for me to do this winter.

Just speculating--how many gallons of paint is required to paint a 63 Marauder?You're only about 40 miles from Richardson, and it has been nearly 80 degrees here for the last few days. That was dirt and leaves you saw blowing around. Amount of paint depends on what kind of paint and how many coats. If you go with a modern paint, you will only need primer, one coat and the clear coat--'bout a gallon of each I'd guess. If you use the ancient lacquer that they used to put on cars, you can put all the coats on that you want--or can afford.

whoskal
11-28-2005, 07:21 PM
Nice Score!!!
We are going to need some before and after pictures!!!

younga1
11-28-2005, 07:42 PM
Shane,

I'm a bum :o !! In Van Alstyne 4 imes over the holiday and didn't even call.

Stopped at the Lone Star for caffeine and then back on the road. Still would love the see your project some time.

jakdad
12-12-2006, 10:17 AM
Thanks Shane for posting this. I hope you keep us up to date even if it doesn't turn out to be extremely rare. Great story and I would like to know how it unfolds. I'm a Texan too!! Good luck..................
Jim
:D :D :D

Haggis
12-12-2006, 10:32 AM
Ahem!!! Did you see the date on this thread.^^^^^

fairlane347
12-12-2006, 10:53 AM
If it is an original 4 speed that is rare because most were automatics. Post up the door tag, what is the fifth diget. That will tell the correct eninge. anyway buy it its worth restoring to be mint!

SID210SA
12-12-2006, 01:15 PM
Ahem!!! Did you see the date on this thread.^^^^^


Yeah but he is still working on it....a handfull of us saw it this weekend....and even in pieces it is an awsome site....
Thanks for having us over Shane....