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AzMarauder
10-06-2005, 09:10 PM
Trilogy #105 is officially alive and well !

I don't know if I have the record for the longest install process or not.... but I sure tried to win it. I began the process Friday evening 30 Sept. I worked on it on and off (more on than off) until today, 6 Oct. (I didn't work on it at all Tuesday evening). I didn't keep track of the hours invested but there were many. I would have to say that the actual job is not horribly difficult but it does take a lot of concentration to make sure that one doesn't make a mistake.

Kudos follow...

Trilogy for making such a great kit, well engineered, with directions even this idiot can almost follow ! :banana2:

Mercury for making a car I could strap to a Trilogy! :banana2:

Carfixer (Claude) & Tallboy (Chuck) who both sent me emails right after I got #105 to offer their assistance. I called both numerous times with questions ranging from complex (for me) to pure idiocy (for them). Both of them were good enough to not laugh in my face (sure wish I had a recording of their phone calls to each other talking about my install process tho.) :lol:
:banana2:

BillyG for one of his burnout clips that started this whole infatuation of mine!:banana2:

Now to get the beastie cleaned up.... the big local show is this coming Saturday!

mongo
10-06-2005, 09:19 PM
AzMarauder,
Congratulations on your install!:) How does it run? Are you going to be scheduling some dyno time w/Chad? I've got an appointment Tues a.m. the 11th for the 3.2 pulley install & check air fuel mixture. Chad ordered a very nice billet aluminum pulley for me. According to Lidio, that's all my tune can handle w/o sending to him for reprograming. Hope we can hook up soon. I have to work this weekend or I'd be on my way to the car show in Sierra Vista.
Mongo

AzMarauder
10-06-2005, 09:23 PM
AzMarauder,
Congratulations on your install!:) How does it run? Are you going to be scheduling some dyno time w/Chad? I've got an appointment Tues a.m. the 11th for the 3.2 pulley install & check air fuel mixture. Chad ordered a very nice billet aluminum pulley for me. According to Lidio, that's all my tune can handle w/o sending to him for reprograming. Hope we can hook up soon. I have to work this weekend or I'd be on my way to the car show in Sierra Vista.
Mongo
It runs nicely. I am not hammering it too hard right now... I have a problem with the Boost-a-Pump and until I have that ironed out I am going to stay conservative.

I don't have any dyno time scheduled just yet. I have an exhaust coming for it so I want to wait until I have that installed. Smaller pulley eh? What octane gas are you running? I can only get 91 Octane in this town so my tune is pretty conservative. I don't think Lidio would like me to go to a smaller pulley. Shame you can't make it down here for the show ! What do you think about the So-Cal thing? We need to entice them to road trip it to Phoenix and we all go to Pavilions!

wsmylie
10-06-2005, 09:24 PM
Congratulations on giving #105 it's new home. Enjoy my friend.

mongo
10-06-2005, 10:11 PM
AZMarauder,
As far as fuel goes, 91 is about the best I can get. I use Lucas octane boost every time I fill up. The last time I dynoed the car, it ran pretty steady @ 11.4/1 on air fuel mixture. I did clear the pulley w/Lidio. As far as the So Cal thing goes, for the next 3 weekends I'm free, let me know where to be. I'd really like to meet the rest of the guys from So Cal & AZ. Mutual meeting place was being discussed & I haven't heard anything more.

Just from what I experienced on the BAP unit, was when the instructions said set @ 10 & it really was the best air fuel mixture. The only problem I have is finding a place to hook up to get a boost reading while on the dyno. I sent an e-mail to Lidio today to answer that question. As far as the 3rd gear dyno test, Lidio said to run it in 2nd. That is what he did before he found a way to lock the torque converter while in 3rd gear. So by the time you get ready to dyno again, Chad should know what he's doing.:shake:
Mongo

Bigdogjim
10-06-2005, 10:15 PM
Best of luck with your new found power!!!

Many happy miles and large clouds of smoke:)(from the tires)

bigslim
10-06-2005, 10:33 PM
Glad to have another Trilogy brother here. Enjoy your new found power.

torinodan
10-07-2005, 12:29 AM
It runs nicely. What do you think about the So-Cal thing? We need to entice them to road trip it to Phoenix and we all go to Pavilions!MAN! I'm so for a road trip!!!! But you know this place and it's a driving state. I still need to drive my first "T"MM. I would make it out in the AM if I have more info. We all need to get together. Only so many of us can make it on a road trip right now, I have 4 days, got a room?

BillyGman
10-07-2005, 01:04 AM
Congrats on your installation accomplishment. So what is the issue with the Kenne Belle BAP that you're having? I've never heard of anyone having trouble with that. Are you sure it was hooked up like the manual says to?

Smokie
10-07-2005, 01:44 AM
Congratulations, you will fall in love with your car all over again.:beer:

Mike Poore
10-07-2005, 03:00 AM
[QUOTE=AzMarauder]Trilogy #105 is officially alive and well !
Kudos follow...
BillyG for one of his burnout clips that started this whole infatuation of mine!QUOTE]

And here I thought it was that crazy cross country dash you and Barry made to Bennington in the Snow Storm.:sunshine:

MM03MOK
10-07-2005, 03:11 AM
:congrats: Kevin! Don't you just love it?? :lovies2:

martyo
10-07-2005, 04:25 AM
Cool! Enjoy it! :up:

AzMarauder
10-07-2005, 05:59 AM
MAN! I'm so for a road trip!!!! But you know this place and it's a driving state. I still need to drive my first "T"MM. I would make it out in the AM if I have more info. We all need to get together. Only so many of us can make it on a road trip right now, I have 4 days, got a room?
Dan,

4 days when?

As for a room... I can fit you in the house somewhere ! <G> Even if it is nothing more than a cot stuck in a bedroom.

If you are talking about this weekend... bring it....

Here in Sierra Vista (which is about 7 - 8 hours from SD) we have a car gathering tonite (just to hang at a local diner.. pick up packets for show tomorrow), the show tomorrow, and another one on Sunday.

I will PM my phone number to you.

AzMarauder
10-07-2005, 06:03 AM
Congrats on your installation accomplishment. So what is the issue with the Kenne Belle BAP that you're having? I've never heard of anyone having trouble with that. Are you sure it was hooked up like the manual says to?
I dunno... talked through it with Carfixer on the phone...

If the BAP is wired in.. IF the car starts... it does it high idle start cycle... then slowly loses RPM and chugs to a hault and dies. Then will not restart.

If I jumper across the connections (in effect restoring the original wire connection) car starts and runs fine. Soon as I pull the jumper she loses RPM and dies. Carfixer and I talked about it over the phone... checked and double checked the wire hook up... checked the fuse.. the ground... (with ohm meter) don't know what the problem is. Car runs great with the BAP disconnected.

AzMarauder
10-07-2005, 06:04 AM
:congrats: Kevin! Don't you just love it?? :lovies2:
Oh yes... and I still have my JLT and DR exhaust to go. The car is just soooo much more "nimble" feeling... and is deceptively quick. Let's not forget it now moans like a love sick cow when you mash the gas! Gotta love the Eaton! :D

Cobra25
10-07-2005, 06:09 AM
Congrats on your new Trilogy kit #105. I'm sure your going to love it.

Tallboy
10-07-2005, 06:15 AM
I enjoyed talking to you again, my friend. Who knew how fateful that dinner at Caper's would be, huh? :)

Warpath
10-07-2005, 09:06 AM
...I don't know if I have the record for the longest install process or not.... but I sure tried to win it. I began the process Friday evening 30 Sept. I worked on it on and off (more on than off) until today, 6 Oct. (I didn't work on it at all Tuesday evening). I didn't keep track of the hours invested but there were many...

I think I got you beat. It took me about 8 days with an guestimated 80 hours to intall everything but the chip on my Cobra. I sent my ECU to Paxton to have the chip installed and it didn't come back for a week. I work slow and I am very maticulous.

Anyway, get the BAP straightened out ASAP. It could be that you are running lean at upper rpm. At what boost level does it turn on?

HwyCruiser
10-07-2005, 09:21 AM
Good to hear the install is complete. Find anything left over? :D

Happy motoring!

DEFYANT
10-07-2005, 10:41 AM
Congrats on the install!!

Is the sending unit hooked up right for the BAP? There may be something wrong with there.

Get that fuel situation fixed before driving it around.

Your symptoms sounded like mine when I had a bad blower. The eaton had a vacuum leak. After 5 minutes of idling, the car would stall. It also made a loud HISSS.

Obviously since you jumped the BAP out, you do not have the same problem, that was my experiance.

Good luck!!

AzMarauder
10-07-2005, 11:34 AM
Congrats on the install!!

Is the sending unit hooked up right for the BAP? There may be something wrong with there.

Get that fuel situation fixed before driving it around.

Your symptoms sounded like mine when I had a bad blower. The eaton had a vacuum leak. After 5 minutes of idling, the car would stall. It also made a loud HISSS.

Obviously since you jumped the BAP out, you do not have the same problem, that was my experiance.

Good luck!!
Carfixer and I discussed the sending unit for the BAP but he said it would make no difference..... as the unit only worked at high boost levels...

Car seems to run fine without it. But Trilogy folks are overnighting me another one.

AzMarauder
10-07-2005, 11:38 AM
I think I got you beat. It took me about 8 days with an guestimated 80 hours to intall everything but the chip on my Cobra. I sent my ECU to Paxton to have the chip installed and it didn't come back for a week. I work slow and I am very maticulous.

Anyway, get the BAP straightened out ASAP. It could be that you are running lean at upper rpm. At what boost level does it turn on?
Joe.. well I still am "adjusting things" so perhaps I can get a few more hours on the "ticket"!

I am not sure what boost level the BAP is supposed to come on... my problem is at idle. The car might start... doesn't hold idle and dies with the BAP wired in. Soon as I jumper it so the electrical doesn't have to get through the BAP car works just fine. Also with the BAP in line and its problems I had a Check Engine light. Take the BAP out... clear the memory by pulling the batter cable for 5 mins... everything is fine again.

Just hoping it isn't something I am overlooking... Trilogy folks are jumping through wickets to take care of me. I don't mind a bad pump... just hoping our diagnosis is correct and it isn't something else!

RF Overlord
10-07-2005, 11:45 AM
I am not sure what boost level the BAP is supposed to come on...IIRC, it's 5 lbs...it's marked on the pressure switch you spliced into the vacuum line going to the gauge. I hid mine behind the driver's kick panel (my boost gauge is in the A-pillar), so I can't just whip it out and look... :eek:

DEFYANT
10-07-2005, 12:15 PM
But Trilogy folks are overnighting me another one.
:banana2: Now thats customer service!!!!!:banana2:

There is another BAP thread running here somewhere with info on the Trilogys settings. It looks like it will be a good one ;) .

AzMarauder
10-07-2005, 12:50 PM
IIRC, it's 5 lbs...it's marked on the pressure switch you spliced into the vacuum line going to the gauge. I hid mine behind the driver's kick panel (my boost gauge is in the A-pillar), so I can't just whip it out and look... :eek:
I have the same installation.... except I don't have the little blue condoms on my boost gauge... (tho I think I am going to want a brighter light)