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txmarauder
10-29-2005, 03:00 PM
I installed the large oval single blade TB, not sure what brand but here is the one i put on. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8007152748&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT The question i have is I used the tps sensor that came on it and all seems fine but i want to check wot voltage and need to know which wires to back probe and the voltage values to look for. The tps is adjustable because of the mounting flange on the tb. Also my cruise cable seems too short, it wont hook up. It is about 1/4-1/2 inch short, is it adjustable. Thanks
Greg

txmarauder
10-30-2005, 09:50 AM
Anybody?:help:

fastblackmerc
10-30-2005, 10:21 AM
Anybody?:help:
Hope someone replies as I'm looking to do the same thing.

Rider90
10-30-2005, 10:24 AM
performance difference?

fastblackmerc
10-30-2005, 10:27 AM
performance difference?
Since it's a bigger opening than the original 2-blade TB I'd guess more CFM's?

txmarauder
10-30-2005, 10:40 AM
For the stock trilogy setup the motor requires 900 cfm to function at maximum efficiency. The stock tb is good for 800 cfm. So the larger one will give more cfm and better throttle response. The HP is minimal but the better response should help out low end and 0-60 ft times which should help out the ET. For what i have invested in it if it does not help I can get my money back easily.

David Morton
10-30-2005, 10:58 AM
How to make a Throttle Position Sensor tester. Class is in session. :grad:

(Note: This is a tester from a General Motors factory training seminar, and as of 1996 when I received this training, Ford, Chrysler and most if not all foreign car ECM/PCMs were using the same signal type so this may OR MAY NOT work. Probably will, however the amperage is so low I doubt it can damage anything.)

For every TPS there's three wires, one is voltage supply (5V), red, orange or yellow, one is ground for that 5 volts, black or green, and the other is signal to the PCM and that one is blue or purple. Check a wiring diagram for true colors. These are generic color types.

To test a TPS you have to make a 5 volt power supply. Go to Radio Shack and buy two resistors, one 5000 Ohms and one 7000 Ohms, some wire, two alligator clamps big enough to hook to a car battery, and a two pin connectors for the TPS connector, these will plug into the TPS with the 5 volt power supply we're gonna make.

Solder this stuff together like this. Solder: (1)- a wire from one clamp (this one will be Batt +) to the 7000 Ohm resistor; then (2)- the other end of that resistor to another wire long enough to reach the TPS (this will be TPS 5V +) AND the 5000 Ohm resistor; then (3)- the other end of that resistor to a wire long enough to reach the other battery clamp (this will be Batt GND) AND another wire long enough to reach the TPS (this will be TPS GND).

What we've done here is made a 12,000 Ohm, 1 milliamp circuit, connected it to the car battery, and taken voltage off after the 7000 Ohm resistor, which will give us 5 volts at 1 milliamp.

Connect the TPS wires to the switch where indicated and then read with your voltmeter from the TPS signal wire. Should be zero at rest and range up to 5 volts at WOT position.

Do not try to use the car battery alone or 70 and 50 Ohm power resistors for this test as it will fry the TPS. The TPS uses milliamp voltage supplied to it from the PCM. This tester I have described is very accurate and completely safe.

merc6
11-06-2005, 01:01 AM
Any updates? I'm seriously intrested!

AzMarauder
11-06-2005, 09:22 AM
How to make a Throttle Position Sensor tester. Class is in session. :grad:

(Note: This is a tester from a General Motors factory training seminar, and as of 1996 when I received this training, Ford, Chrysler and most if not all foreign car ECM/PCMs were using the same signal type so this may OR MAY NOT work. Probably will, however the amperage is so low I doubt it can damage anything.)

For every TPS there's three wires, one is voltage supply (5V), red, orange or yellow, one is ground for that 5 volts, black or green, and the other is signal to the PCM and that one is blue or purple. Check a wiring diagram for true colors. These are generic color types.

To test a TPS you have to make a 5 volt power supply. Go to Radio Shack and buy two resistors, one 5000 Ohms and one 7000 Ohms, some wire, two alligator clamps big enough to hook to a car battery, and a two pin connectors for the TPS connector, these will plug into the TPS with the 5 volt power supply we're gonna make.

Solder this stuff together like this. Solder: (1)- a wire from one clamp (this one will be Batt +) to the 7000 Ohm resistor; then (2)- the other end of that resistor to another wire long enough to reach the TPS (this will be TPS 5V +) AND the 5000 Ohm resistor; then (3)- the other end of that resistor to a wire long enough to reach the other battery clamp (this will be Batt GND) AND another wire long enough to reach the TPS (this will be TPS GND).

What we've done here is made a 12,000 Ohm, 1 milliamp circuit, connected it to the car battery, and taken voltage off after the 7000 Ohm resistor, which will give us 5 volts at 1 milliamp.

Connect the TPS wires to the switch where indicated and then read with your voltmeter from the TPS signal wire. Should be zero at rest and range up to 5 volts at WOT position.

Do not try to use the car battery alone or 70 and 50 Ohm power resistors for this test as it will fry the TPS. The TPS uses milliamp voltage supplied to it from the PCM. This tester I have described is very accurate and completely safe.

Sounds like something that could be made and marketed... :D