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Dan
11-06-2005, 01:56 PM
Last night I went crusing on The Pike. As always, crusing the Pike is a lot of fun.

"Races," if you can call them that, have really evolved a lot on the Pike in that a "race" is not really a race. Basically, it is two cars lining up to a light and accelerating to the legal speed limit of the road (50 moh) ASAP and with as little wheel spin as possible. Nearly all of the high speed stuff is done much farther down the road where it is real highway.

At one point, late in the night, I lined up next to an Audi turbo. He and I went at it for 3 or 4 lights and he got me from 0-50 or 0-65 every single time.

Later on that night I was rolling with a pack of guys who were headed down to the bottom for some higher end stuff. I was pedal down and acceleratin and an SRT4 (I think that's what it was) rolled right up on me and passed me.

I was totally blown away. These 4 cylinder turbos are really something.

The Pike is kind of cool. No one has a real attitude so losing to these guys was just as much fun as winning against them. At the next light the windows go down, the thumbs go up and everyone congratulates everyone or they praise the others' car. Everyone does their best to stay below the radar (literally.) A lot of people have figured out how to have fun with their cars and do so within the boundaries of not getting a ticket.

But man oh man, I gotta get me a power adder. :)

Best,

Dan

PS: One more note... the DR Stage 2 tranny set up is awesome. Frank (Ultravorx) had it done and I am blown away by the new personality of his tranny. One more thing to spend my money on next year, right? :)

hitchhiker
11-06-2005, 02:01 PM
Get the 410's, JLT intake tube, and Lidio's tune and that pretentious Audi driver will go home
embarrassed.

:D

Dan
11-06-2005, 02:05 PM
Get the 410's, JLT intake tube, and Lidio's tune and that pretentious Audi driver will go home
embarrassed.

:D
Yeah, I hear you.

I am seriously thinking about 4:10s. As for getting Lidio's tune, I'll probably hold off on anything like that until the power adder.

If I have to go up against one of these guys again I want to have enough in reserve to make him work to get me to full pedal.

BTW- I learned something last night. Parking a Marauder in a lot gets just as much attention with the hood down as it does up. That means that next year people will have to find out what power I have the hard way. :)

I just love the way these cars attract attention, even when sitting completely still.

Best,

Dan

Blackened300a
11-06-2005, 03:54 PM
I am seriously thinking about 4:10s. As for getting Lidio's tune, I'll probably hold off on anything like that until the power adder.

Well with the installation of 4.10's you'll need a tune anyways to make the Shift Schedule and the Speedo Calibration correct.
Without it, You'll throw 3 gears beofre hitting 30mph and your speedo will be off 10mph. So you may as well make the SCT plunge!

Dan
11-06-2005, 06:55 PM
Thanks. I didn't think of that. :)

Best,

Dan

ckadiddle
11-06-2005, 07:22 PM
I just added a tune recently and am impressed by the new pep that appeared from nowhere.

Dan
11-06-2005, 08:40 PM
Thanks.

Best,

Dan

Pat
11-06-2005, 09:04 PM
Dan,

You will need an SCT tuner when you decide on your power adder, it's mandatory.

If you get one now, you can enjoy some new power, shift schedule and other benefits while your saving for the more expensive S/C.

Then a simple program update, canned or dyno, brings it up to speed, so to speak, with your new hardware. Remember, these SCT's carry multiple programs and can be installed rather quickly, either thru the vendor or a PC download.

Dan
11-06-2005, 09:14 PM
Won't the power adder typically come with a chip or a tune from the mfr?

BillyGman
11-06-2005, 11:47 PM
Won't the power adder typically come with a chip or a tune from the mfr?I have a Trilogy S/cer as you know, and I don't have a handheld tuner. I just use the chip that came with the Trilogy kit, and that's all I've ever used since the day I installed the S/Cer a year and a half ago.

MarauderMarc
11-07-2005, 12:23 AM
Dan,

If you are going to get a power adder, then get a tuner now, then have a new tune put in your same tuner when you get the power adder. Im telling you, the best bang for your buck and all around mod is a tuner. That was the first mod I ever did and it made a HUGE difference. Im sorry, but a bone stock Marauder is fast, but its not the same with a tune. Get 4.10s and an intake (JLT OR K&N) on top of a tune, you are ALOT faster than before. Especially off the line. And a tuner can adjust your speedo when you do gears. Also it will get rid of your rev limiter and governor.

BillyGman
11-07-2005, 12:46 AM
Dan,

If you are going to get a power adder, then get a tuner now, then have a new tune put in your same tuner when you get the power adder. Sometimes I think that Dan just likes to talk about power adders, but if he really is finally getting serious about this, and there's a chance that his choice of power adder might turn out to be a Trilogy S/Cer, then he should check with Trilogy about that first, because someone recently told me that Trilogy is only offering chips w/their kits, and not handheld tunes. So if Dan wanted to simply use the tune that comes with the S/Cer kit like I have for the past 18 months, then getting a tuner now might not have anything to do with a S/cer installation later on. he would need to check with Trilogy on that, because I'm not sure.

Tallboy
11-07-2005, 02:51 PM
Sometimes I think that Dan just likes to talk about power adders, but if he really is finally getting serious about this, and there's a chance that his choice of power adder might turn out to be a Trilogy S/Cer, then he should check with Trilogy about that first, because someone recently told me that Trilogy is only offering chips w/their kits, and not handheld tunes. So if Dan wanted to simply use the tune that comes with the S/Cer kit like I have for the past 18 months, then getting a tuner now might not have anything to do with a S/cer installation later on. he would need to check with Trilogy on that, because I'm not sure.

If you already have a SCT hand-held tuner, Lidio can easily load his program into it. Not a problem.

DEFYANT
11-07-2005, 03:01 PM
If you already have a SCT hand-held tuner, Lidio can easily load his program into it. Not a problem.

When I bought the Xcal2 from Lidio to data log the MM, he loaded my tune into it.

Don't quote me, but I think he said the Xcal2 could be an option in the Trilogy kit. Since Lidio is the one who programs the chips, he can do the Xcal2 also.

Dan
11-07-2005, 05:45 PM
I already have an SCT Microtuner. It came with the car.

What makes Lidios tune so special? I think I am interested in learning more.

Best,

Dan

Blackened300a
11-07-2005, 06:03 PM
I already have an SCT Microtuner. It came with the car.

What makes Lidios tune so special? I think I am interested in learning more.

Best,

Dan

I had the Microtuner and it made a nice improvement, But a SCT tune from a Vendor made a world of difference! The Microtuner has a base general tune where as the SCT tune can be modified to work with whatever Mods you have done. A Good tuner knows what the maximum amount of timing and spark advance that your engine can safely handle to give you the most power, and give you a strong shift pressure and optimum shift schedule for faster acceleration.
Bottom Line, If you just want a little more pep to cruise around with then stick with your microtuner, If you plan to run at the track or do a little stop light action then I recommend a good SCT tune

BillyGman
11-08-2005, 12:05 AM
I already have an SCT Microtuner. It came with the car.

What makes Lidios tune so special? I think I am interested in learning more.

Best,

DanOkay, I'll play along here, and address your question (whether it's a sincere question or not)...... Lidio is the one who worked extensively, and closely with Jerry Barnes, and Trilogy Motorsports, during the enginnering, and developmental stages of the designing of their supercharger kit for the Marauder. The point is, that Lidio just hasn't simply whipped up an engine tune within one afternoon for the Trilogy customers, but he was very much an intergral part and a key player during the development of that kit.

So any mistakes, or trial and error that needed to take place during the learning curve with the Trilogy set-up, has already taken place long ago via Lidio's tunes. And that's why I believe that you would be doing it the hard way by going to someone else to get an engine tune for your Trilogy equipped Marauder. Uhmm, that is, if you even had a Trilogy equipped Marauder.

But getting back to what I was suggesting before about calling Trilogy on that (assuming that you really are serious enough about this to even do that) I simply made that suggestion, because a new Trilogy customer recently told me that he was told that Lidio will no longer do anything but chips for the new Trilogy customers, unless they're going to him for a complete custom dyno tune session (which isn't mandatory since the stock universal Trilogy engine tune that the kit comes with is pretty close to perfect in most cases). but be advised, that I'm going on what another board member told me via e-mail, and I have NOT heard this from Lidio himself.

Dan
11-08-2005, 06:06 AM
Billy,

I was serious when I asked the question. I guess my question was vague. I should have asked what the advantages were in terms of top end, acceleration, etc. My bad.

Thanks for your reply.

Best,

Dan