Lifting the Motor

[AzMarauder]

I am going to need to lift my motor slightly to install some Cobra Manifolds.

Can this be done with a block of wood under the oilpan and a floor jack?

Undoing the the motor mounts.... the single bolt that can be seen by looking up from underneath the aluminum cross member?


Tks

[fastblackmerc]

I am going to need to lift my motor slightly to install some Cobra Manifolds.

Can this be done with a block of wood under the oilpan and a floor jack?

Undoing the the motor mounts.... the single bolt that can be seen by looking up from underneath the aluminum cross member?


Tks
I think you can. That's what I plan to do when I install my shorty headers. Would like to know how much of a spacer I'll need to install so the headers clear the steering gear.

[CrazyCor15]

You need to make a military friend that will take you to the Auto Hobby shop on base. Then you could put it up on a lift.

[Zack]

Cobra Manifolds do not require lifting of the engine. Clearance is not even remotely a problem.
Shorty headers require a 1/8" shim between the drivers side motor mount and the crossmember.
To answer the question, a block of wood and a jack works well.

[merc6]

You need to make a military friend that will take you to the Auto Hobby shop on base. Then you could put it up on a lift. Here they ask relations and ask alot of Q's. they do have alot of tools and they get rid of oil during oil changes :)

[Breadfan]

Here they ask relations and ask alot of Q's. they do have alot of tools and they get rid of oil during oil changes :)

Uhhh...do they have one of these at Belvior?

[AzMarauder]

You need to make a military friend that will take you to the Auto Hobby shop on base. Then you could put it up on a lift.

Crazy,

I'm retired military and have access to the craft shop here. The problem is, if I get in the shop... have a problem... (like the O2 sensor issue) then I have to pay for the lift for the duration the car sits on it... or push it outside....

At home I can work on it.. when I want... as long as I want.. and if something comes up and it has to sit... it is in my garage safe and sound ! :D

[AzMarauder]

Cobra Manifolds do not require lifting of the engine. Clearance is not even remotely a problem.
Shorty headers require a 1/8" shim between the drivers side motor mount and the crossmember.
To answer the question, a block of wood and a jack works well.

Zack,

Well so far I've had no luck getting the driver's side manifold inplace. I can get it CLOSE... but it won't clear the studs.. AND the steering shaft....

I've tried turning the wheels a little to gain clearance but no luck.

Only thing that I can think of is to raise the engine a "taste" to get past the steering shaft... once in I should be fine.

[AzMarauder]

Here they ask relations and ask alot of Q's. they do have alot of tools and they get rid of oil during oil changes :)

Here at Ft Huachuca the shop is open to the general public. If they can get a pass to get on post they can pay to use the facility! Hard times can cause some interesting changes.

[Warpath]

There was a post on corral.net were the guy lifted the engine from the oil pan and caved it in. The local parts shop rents cherry pickers. I suggest doing that instead.

[martyo]

Zack,

Well so far I've had no luck getting the driver's side manifold inplace. I can get it CLOSE... but it won't clear the studs.. AND the steering shaft....

I've tried turning the wheels a little to gain clearance but no luck.

Only thing that I can think of is to raise the engine a "taste" to get past the steering shaft... once in I should be fine.

Did you disconnect the shaft at the knuckle?

[Joe Walsh]

^^^^ Like Marty said ^^^^^^
Disconnect the steering shaft first, and see if that gets you enough clearance to install the manifold.....If not, loosen BOTH motor mount nuts and use a wide board under the oil pan to jack up the engine. I did both procedures to install my Kooks headers and had no problem with the oil pan.

[AzMarauder]

Did you disconnect the shaft at the knuckle?

Marty..

No I didn't.... by lifting the motor about 1/8" I got what I needed and slipped the manifold on!

The three toughest points in the whole install...

the EGR tube.... had no problem with it during S/C install.. but it made up for it this time around.

the clearance on the driver's side to get the manifold in.

the front two bolts on the passenger side manifold. I ended up loostening the A/C compressor. I didn't take it all the way off... but I had it REAL loose. Gave me enough room to cram my hands up in there with a SHORT 3/8" drive ratchet (the ones that are about 4" long) and get the front two bolts out... and back in.

All together except for the junction with the "catback". I'm going to have the reducers welded so right now I in effect have no mufflers. ( I don't like it one bit either)

Once the mufflers are hooked back up then we will be able to tell if the X-pipe sealed well at the manifolds. It is MUCH easier to get to the passenger side bolts for the X-pipe to manifold junction than on my Cobra! However, I am DAINBRAMAGED by that passenger side junction. 4 times I did exhaust on Cobras and never got that passenger side to seal up the first attempt. Always had to loosten and adjust and retighten. Hoping my record isn't going to remain intact!

:D

[AzMarauder]

^^^^ Like Marty said ^^^^^^
Disconnect the steering shaft first, and see if that gets you enough clearance to install the manifold.....If not, loosen BOTH motor mount nuts and use a wide board under the oil pan to jack up the engine. I did both procedures to install my Kooks headers and had no problem with the oil pan.

I got er done with just the wide board... and the driver's side mount undone.

Thanks for the tips. I would say the exhaust install was probably my least favorite experience to date with the Marauder. The S/C install seemed easier (tho longer).

[merc6]

Uhhh...do they have one of these at Belvior? Truthfully living in falls church I don't know. I always used bolling cause I could visit co-workers while the car cooled down so I didn't have the Hi Revving oil Vs My hand incident again(Long story and I always wear the thick dish washing gloves when chainging oil). Gotta love the Mazda 6 and it's cartridge filter design. So engine can be lifted as is after undoing mounts w/o having to touch the tranny? DIY has a cherry picker cause I remember a co worker using one to drop his S/C'ed 13B in his RX-7.