PHP or JLT?

[Gre8one7]

Which is the better CAI? The PHP or the JLT? Do they contain the same things? The PHP is $250 from Dennis Reinhart and the JLT is only $140(plus shipping). And if higher price = better product is there that much of a difference? Just lookin at all my options, thanks for any help!

[Rider90]

I prefer the K&N, the PHP looks bad-azz too :D

[fastblackmerc]

I prefer my JLT....

[Gre8one7]

any preformance differences? Atleast noticable ones?(on looks the JLT wins lol)

[Eric91Z]

I got the JLT because of price and I like the looks. I like the K&N, too, but too much for me at the time. And like others have said before, with them being open, they will or can pull some hot engine compartment air unless completely sealed off.

My JLT did have a plastic piece to help shut off the air filter from the motor, but it is not completely sealed. And since they all seem to offer about the same in horsepower increase, I am all for spending as little as possible for that same increase. Plus, the JLT comes with color options.

I would say buy the one that makes you feel the most comfortable and you won't go wrong.

As for performance increase, I have no hard numbers. I think the car pulls a little harder, especially on the top end. If nothing else, it sounds cool sucking that air.

[Cobra25]

They all do the same thing, But I like the K&N better,

[BruteForce]

Which is the better CAI? The PHP or the JLT?

YES. :D :D :D :D :D

[Petrograde]

I like the PHP personally,.. I've been thinking about sticking a Metco tube on for the extra bling.

[Bradley G]

The gains I measured, ten Horse power better, seven #'s better in torque.
I got a freebie from Jay Tucker@ JLT , to do back to back camparos against the stock air box.
Rider90 posted the Dyno results.
This was my fist mod, I agree the car sounds more impressive at mid and upper rpms.

[Blackened300a]

03silverstreak has the same mods as I do except I have the PHP airbox, Hes running a JLT. The difference is that he has more HP then I do where as I have more Torque.
I like the PHP cause it has the stainless cover that lines up with the factory mounts and the edge of the filter is cut to fit flush with the plastic header panel cover.

You make the call!

[SergntMac]

I have no personal experience with the K&N kit, but I have owned and used the JLT and the PHP, and the PHP/Metco combination from Reinhart. I have also installed the PHP/Metco combo on other Marauders in my area, SlowPoke has pics of his combo.

IMHO, this is the way to go for any N/A Marauder. Give Dennis a call at 904.276.5003 for the best performance, and the best bling, IMHO.

[metroplex]

No offense to you guys, but I like the stock Marauder airbox. I considered the K&N only because of the possibility of a better zip tube solution. I'm not too fond of the conical cotton filters due to their severe lack of filtration efficiency.

There were quite a few complaints about heat soak during the summer in stop and go traffic with Crown Vics even with the heatshields.

[Petrograde]

:P :bandit: :neener: :laugh:

:concur:

[Pat]

I have a JLT, price and CFM airflow is as good as any, Air filtration is on par with any other cone filter. One must realize that a performance filter is a trade off between filtering and airflow. K&N offers a cloth cover to improve mico filtration, don't know how the CFM is affected, if at all. Like you mentioned JLT cost less and has been trouble free for me.

I might add that I used a L-bracket that I bought from HOME DEPOT to provide rigidity at the MAF unit junction. Not that there's a problem, I just felt I wanted the additional support.

[Smokie]

.........INFORMATION (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14370)

[rayjay]

Hybrid, JLT+ PHP = life is good.

[Marauder2005]

I had the JLT, and just got the K&N w/ Micro Filter. I think the JLT was

louder at WOT compared to the K&N. I bought the K&N because the JLT was

eating a hole in my hood liner where it connected to the throttle, plus I got

the breather option instead of the PCV hose and I heard BAD thing's about

breathers on valve covers... Its up to you really...

[CRUZTAKER]

Hybrid, JLT+ PHP = life is good.

Uh huh...:up:

One phone call. One trip to home depot. ;)

Have you seen the customized PHP cover lately?:coolman:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/6/2/7/airboxcover2.jpg

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/6/2/7/airboxcover1.jpg

[MarauderMarc]

I dont care what any of you say...K&N is the best, they pioneered the intake, and you cant beat the looks, sound, and all around performance. You get what you pay for, and you may pay more for the K&N, but the results will be great! I wouldnt go any other way!

[rayjay]

Happy HalloThanksMas to all in the PHP/JLT/K&N family :help: can't we all just be friends???? :D

[Petrograde]

Happy HalloThanksMas to all in the PHP/JLT/K&N family :help: can't we all just be friends???? :D

Happy HalloThanksMas to you too! ..and to answer your question:

no,.. for some reason we can't all be freinds. :rolleyes: ...unfortunately.

[Blackened300a]

I dont care what any of you say...K&N is the best, they pioneered the intake, and you cant beat the looks, sound, and all around performance. You get what you pay for, and you may pay more for the K&N, but the results will be great! I wouldnt go any other way!

What it really comes down to is, the PHP and the JLT are using what amounts to a K&N filter just wrapped in a different airbox design. Its what company's design gets the most air flowing to the K&N filter that makes all the difference.

[rayjay]

What it really comes down to is, the PHP and the JLT are using what amounts to a K&N filter just wrapped in a different airbox design. Its what company's design gets the most air flowing to the K&N filter that makes all the difference.

This would be a good question to ask someone that has actually seen all the inductions side by side in person. I also forgot about the Metco air tube, beautiful, but too much hard earned money for me. Wait long enough and another company will come out with a "new and improved" model. For now I prefer my PHP/JLT hybrid system. Anyone who has the PHP knows the quality of the parts. The JLT provides a large diameter tube in which to store/feed more air and the price is certainly nice. Well, gotta check on my pies. Enjoy the holiday and may all be safe, healthy and full. Thank you and God bless our troops around the world without who's service we would not have this holiday to celebrate with the ones we love... :flag:

[SergntMac]

K&N...pioneered the intake... If you mean K&N pioneered the art of filtering air, I agree, the do it well. If you are saying K&N pioneered a product for the Marauder, I do not agree. Turned us away back in '02, and they are the last in line here. PHP was first with the air box, Metco next with the bellows, and JLT, then K&N. Sad too, if they had acted sooner, could have done very with our market.

[fastblackmerc]

" could have done very with our market."
As would have most of the aftermarket suppliers.... IMHO....

[Smokie]

What it really comes down to is, the PHP and the JLT are using what amounts to a K&N filter just wrapped in a different airbox design. Its what company's design gets the most air flowing to the K&N filter that makes all the difference.

It's a little more than "most air flowing". The temperature of that air also matters, that's why they are called Cold Air Intakes.

The design that flows the most cold (outside engine compartment) air would be the most desireable.:)

[Tucker]

It comes down to performance, looks and price.
If one is $140 and the next is $240, but the power is the same then you need to add looks into the equation.

Just saying "XXXX" is the best because I have it isn't a good and fair statment. If you have tested all the kits offered then ok, but when there has been testing here on this site, you'll need to look at that.

Many times posts in the CAI threads are really just matters of opinion and not factual information.

Do a search and you will come up with some good threads on tests done on the K&N, JLT and the PHP.

Jay

[MarauderMarc]

If you mean K&N pioneered the art of filtering air, I agree, the do it well. If you are saying K&N pioneered a product for the Marauder, I do not agree. Turned us away back in '02, and they are the last in line here. PHP was first with the air box, Metco next with the bellows, and JLT, then K&N. Sad too, if they had acted sooner, could have done very with our market.

Mac, I meant by filtering air, not the product for the Marauder. Sorry I wasnt clear before.