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martyo

12-01-2005, 05:27 AM

Well, it looks like the other thread was getting ready to take a dump, so I decided to seek higher ground and start another thread.

Bowman9 posted this in part:

As we all know nobody makes hoods for our cars, but we could make our own, using a junkyard crown vic hood and some fiberglass.

That really got me thinking. Has anyone ever cross-referenced the part numbers from the hood?

If they are a direct swap, save for perhaps an under hood light or something, I could try to locate a used one cheaper. Also, I might find one closer to whoever I hand this project off to, and save on some shipping (plus I would spare my stock piece from the knife/torch/grinding wheel).

So guys, can anyone help me out and double check the interchange on the part numbers?

Thanks!

SergntMac

12-01-2005, 06:37 AM

F8AZ-16612-AA, CV and GM, 1998-2005

I looked at this two years ago. New OEM hoods from Ford are 500 bucks, 368 to 331. from on-line parts houses. Hard to say if these are remanfactured, imported, or, bone yard stock. Here's a link.

http://www.autobodypartx.com/ford-crown_victoria-hoods-10351.html

I think if you stopped by any decent sized bone yard, cash and carry may be as low as 100 bucks. There are a lot of hoods out there.

martyo

12-01-2005, 07:29 AM

MI2QWK4U

12-01-2005, 08:19 AM

Marty, Give me a call tonight about this. There may be something on the way in terms of a fiberglass hood for the Marauder.

Joe Walsh

12-01-2005, 05:33 PM

Marty, Give me a call tonight about this. There may be something on the way in terms of a fiberglass hood for the Marauder.

OOH OOH!!! Keep us updated...

I bought a GM hood from a local junk yard for $40.00 to use for my 'custom hood' project, but I may put this on HOLD until I hear a little more about a possible fiberglass hood.
I like the idea of shaving some weight off the front end...I actually bought TWO hoods from the junk yard...
the first one that I bought was off a mid 90s GM and was ALUMINUM!....BUT it was the wrong style. (center section of hood was lower rather than raised...:( )
The Aluminum hood was incredibly light and I looked like a muscleman walking around the junk yard, carrying the hood with one arm!

P.S. Anyone want a mid 90s GM ALUMINUM hood cheap??

MI2QWK4U

12-01-2005, 06:24 PM

Joe, I cant speak more to it, other than it may be a possiblity and it was being investigated. When I hear more, or something solid, I will post it up.

OOH OOH!!! Keeps us updated...

I bought a GM hood from a local junk yard for $40.00 to use for my 'custom hood' project, but I may put this on HOLD until I hear a little more about a possible fiberglass hood.
I like the idea of shaving some weight off the front end...I actually bought TWO hoods from the junk yard...
the first one that I bought was off a mid 90s GM and was ALUMINUM!....BUT it was the wrong style. (center section of hood was lower rather than raised...:( )
The Aluminum hood was incredibly light and I looked like a muscleman walking around the junk yard, carrying the hood with one arm!

P.S. Anyone want a mid 90s GM ALUMINUM hood cheap??

tmac1337

12-01-2005, 06:33 PM

Joe, I cant speak more to it, other than it may be a possiblity and it was being investigated. When I hear more, or something solid, I will post it up.

Hoppity Hopetty

Put me on the list for one as long as it vacs out the engine heat.

MarauderMark

12-01-2005, 07:43 PM

ô¿ô keep an eye on this thread.:D

Bowman9

12-01-2005, 08:04 PM

Well, it looks like the other thread was getting ready to take a dump, so I decided to seek higher ground and start another thread.

Bowman9 posted this in part:

That really got me thinking. Has anyone ever cross-referenced the part numbers from the hood?

If they are a direct swap, save for perhaps an under hood light or something, I could try to locate a used one cheaper. Also, I might find one closer to whoever I hand this project off to, and save on some shipping (plus I would spare my stock piece from the knife/torch/grinding wheel).

So guys, can anyone help me out and double check the interchange on the part numbers?

Thanks!

The best of luck with the project, make sure to take plenty of pics of the process so we can all learn from it.
Can't wait to see the results.

stevengerard

12-01-2005, 09:20 PM

Haven't been on lately was thinking of a custom hood for a winter project, now I'll just sit back and wait - impatiently

LVMarauder

12-02-2005, 12:31 AM

Joe Walsh

12-02-2005, 05:11 AM

Seriously, how easy would it be to find a hood from an 03 Crown Vic , then add your own custom inlets to it and have body shop make it for you. Most of the cost would be in the labor. I really like the gto style twin scoop that some silver marauder has.

This was my thinking when I bought a junkyard GM hood and some aftermarket scoops...My problem now is finding a good body shop who knows what they are doing.:(
Most just want to cut some holes and 'BONDO' the scoops into the hood...:eek:

Warpath

12-02-2005, 09:37 AM

Actually, adhesives (not bondo) have come a long way and are pretty reliable. I have been told Jaguar uses an adhesive to bond the fire wall to the body. I'm not sure which vehicle. They're not my cup of tea though. I prefer welding. I don't have that option on my Cobra since the hood is some form of composite.

GreekGod

12-03-2005, 05:08 PM

I thought there was a one year police application Crown Vic aluminum hood that fit our MM's. (1998?)

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12-03-2005, 05:14 PM

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IIRC the 1998 P71 ( Crown Victoria - Police ) had an aluminum hood ( and trunk lid ). *Maybe other early late-model years as well (?????).

The look-and-fit is an exact match.
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12-03-2005, 05:17 PM

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I'm 100% sure on the trunk lid ( know someone who purchased a used 1998 CVPI ).

However, the parts lists that I have do not note two part #s. Probably meaning ( which I strongly believe ) that they're not available from FoMoCo; the quest for the holy hood / trunk lid would have to be scouring salvage yards. These may be unobtainium parts.

*Have often wondered what the weight savings would be.
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Bowman9

12-03-2005, 10:21 PM

I was just over on www.cervinis.com, they still do not offer a hood for application, but they do now offer lift-off hoods for about $225.00.

So if you were thinking of cutting up a cervini mustang or F150 hood and bonding it to your marauder hood the price just got cheaper.

I just thought I would share the information.

SergntMac

12-04-2005, 11:51 AM

Found something that offers some compromise between scoops and cowl induction...BOTH!

http://www.ramairhood.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=24

martyo

12-04-2005, 10:48 PM

Found something that offers some compromise between scoops and cowl induction...BOTH!

http://www.ramairhood.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=24

Like STDs, some things should not be shared.

jakdad

12-05-2005, 07:15 AM

Are the hoods on MM/CV steel or aluminum? The truck hoods are aluminum. I put a fiberglass hood on my truck that is about 12# heavier than the factory hood. I liked the cobra cowl hood well enough to give up the weight difference.

SergntMac

12-05-2005, 07:44 AM

Like STDs, some things should not be shared. I hear ya...Happy trails to you...

BK_GrandMarquis

12-05-2005, 01:24 PM

How about a hood like this?

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/1/7/8/8/2005-Mustang-GTR-01.jpg

This is the Concept Mustang GTR.

GreekGod

12-05-2005, 02:29 PM

A non-functional 'power-bulge' doesn't do it for me. We need an automotive artiste with talent equal to Chip Foose to come up with a unique, functional, and classy design. I don't care for Foose's style but do appreciate his talent. I was thinking we need someone like the late, great Larry Shinoda. May he rest in peace.

jakdad

12-05-2005, 02:46 PM

Or Carroll Shelby....................

BK_GrandMarquis

12-05-2005, 03:17 PM

GreekGod

12-05-2005, 03:48 PM

As was mentioned, cowl induction may not be as effective with our (relatively) raked windshield design. Cold air induction may require wind-tunnel data and testing. Design and the idea that form follows function are often in conflict. If you were a young man and budding gearhead like me back in 1969, you may have been as awe-struck as I was when you saw your first yellow Boss 302 Mustang with black stripes, black rear window louvers, a functional black rear spoiler, AND a flat black shaker hood scoop. It was real innovation coupled with outstanding design and function in a total performance package. Our MM was a near miss in so many ways and it is really a shame. Time will tell but I doubt the MM will ever approach the (instant) classic 69/70 Mustang fastback. I'm sure many Shivvy owners were converted from Camaro's in 1969 and '70 to the Mustang. A new facia and hood with integrated ram-air would be groovy for us.

merc6

12-05-2005, 03:57 PM

why not the Mach I hood and scoop. Just don't have the scoop attached to the intake mani unless you want it to be.

martyo

12-05-2005, 04:27 PM

As was mentioned, cowl induction may not be as effective with our (relatively) raked windshield design.

It will work and a test on my car proved effective.

Bowman9

12-05-2005, 04:38 PM

Here are some more links to other aftermarket universal scoop options.
I am only sharing what I have found, do not shoot the messenger.

http://www.boa-fx.com/pages/15/index.htm
Here are a few of their choices.
http://www.boa-fx.com/images/Cobra_R_Top_View.JPG
http://www.boa-fx.com/images/Mach_side_view.JPG
http://www.boa-fx.com/images/600_WS-6_3.JPG

http://www.motorsportspartsusa.com/catagoriesHoodScoops.cfm
This place is having a sale till 12-31-05.
Many different styles of scoops to choose from.
http://www.motorsportspartsusa.com/images/partJPGs/SC0025c.jpg
http://www.motorsportspartsusa.com/images/partJPGs/SC0015c.jpg

http://www.fibersmith.net/scoops.html
Similar to the ones offered by boa-fx above.

http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com/scoops.html
Several types of scoops to choice from.

http://www.up22.com/scoopw1.htm
http://www.up22.com/scoopw2.htm
http://www.up22.com/scoopw3.htm
Several types of scoops to choice from here too.

Remember these are fiberglass scoops only, you or your bodyshop will have to bond them to your hood. These are NOT complete hoods.

Warpath

12-05-2005, 04:55 PM

why not the Mach I hood and scoop. Just don't have the scoop attached to the intake mani unless you want it to be.

Classic Design Concepts has shaker kits. I think they have one for F150s too.

http://www.classicdesignconcepts.com/catalog/itemdisplay/561.html

Bowman9

12-05-2005, 05:19 PM

Classic Design Concepts has shaker kits. I think they have one for F150s too.
http://www.classicdesignconcepts.com/catalog/itemdisplay/561.html

Karkraft offers shaker parts also.
http://www.karkraft.com/ram_air.htm

merc6

12-05-2005, 05:20 PM

wow now I have to look into it.

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I'm 100% sure on the trunk lid ( know someone who purchased a used 1998 CVPI ).

However, the parts lists that I have do not note two part #s. Probably meaning ( which I strongly believe ) that they're not available from FoMoCo; the quest for the holy hood / trunk lid would have to be scouring salvage yards. These may be unobtainium parts.

*Have often wondered what the weight savings would be.

I just weighed them:
OEM Steel Marauder hood = 58 LBS
Aluminum 96 Grand Marquis hood = 31 LBS
Unfortunately, the 96 GM hood is the wrong style for our Marauders...:o (see my earlier post)

Boy would it be nice to drop 27 LBS off the front end, then move the battery to the trunk....:hmmm:

FastMerc

12-06-2005, 03:55 PM

You guys crack me up just DOit buy a scoop bolt it on...I go to MV4 and dont see any new ones I will be surprised:D

Bowman9

12-06-2005, 07:02 PM

Classic Design Concepts has shaker kits. I think they have one for F150s too.
http://www.classicdesignconcepts.com/catalog/itemdisplay/561.html

There is currently a CLASSIC DESIGN CONCEPTS Shaker hood setup on ebay. The end date is 12-12-05.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Late-model-Mustang-Ram-Air-Shaker-hoodscoop-kit_W0QQitemZ8020556047QQcateg oryZ33646QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Fastronald

12-08-2005, 08:30 PM

Any hood is $44.00 dollars at the local U - Pull - It yard in Blue Island, Illinois.

Go on Monday and it's half price day, $22.00 for a hood is way cheap!

GreekGod

12-09-2005, 04:54 AM

They probably get you with the ferry fee to get to the "Island" ;)
Any hood is $44.00 dollars at the local U - Pull - It yard in Blue Island, Illinois.

Go on Monday and it's half price day, $22.00 for a hood is way cheap!

MI2QWK4U

12-09-2005, 08:14 AM

I like this hood!
But I dont like the chrome bumper thing and the grill is too busy looking.
http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/shows/sema05/142.jpg

merc6

12-09-2005, 08:20 AM

like the lip tho!

Ross

12-09-2005, 12:50 PM

The girl in the background isn't bad, either!

Hotrauder

12-09-2005, 02:55 PM

The girl in the background isn't bad, either!

Ross, I had expected a comment exhibiting that babe radar from someone merc6's age. Good on you. The vitamins are working.:eek: Dennis

Bowman9

12-09-2005, 07:29 PM

The girl in the background isn't bad, either!

She's yummy-yummy, but why is there a severed foot on the left hand side of the picture.