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StevenJ
12-04-2005, 02:49 AM
I was there Saturday the 3rd and ran twice. No other Marauder was running however Gregg was there with his vortech car. He wasn't running it though and only watched from the grandstands. To be honest, I didn't even know he'd be there he just happened to find me all the way at the end of the line to get to the staging lanes. Anyway, I had one losss and one victory. First time I went I was against a stock Neon SRT4. The guy had an intake as his only mod, I asked him afterwards. Since this was my first time ever doing the 1/4 mile I was a bit unsure when to react. A veteran racer who had this really fast EVO VII gave me some tips. He said to to hit it when the third yellow comes on. When we were staging I had to wait for an accident to clear up. Some guys from around the area kept pestering me about my car. One guy bet me $20 to race his minivan. It almost went to $40 but, there was just something I didn't trust about how he was willing to raise the bet so quickly so we left it at $20. Anyway, they kept begging me to do a burnout so after the guy ahead of me got the green, I did a nice shortie burnout. I held the brakes for a few seconds, left a nice small trail of black tire marks. So anyway, remembering what the guy with the EVO VII told me, I took his advice and ended up with a reaciton time of 0.443 roughly but the guy in the Neon got 0.072.

I did have him at the 60 ft but it was all him from there out. He had me by about four car lengths in the end. He ran a 14.3 and the track timer screwed up on my run and didn't give me a 1/4 time! Only reaction, 60 foot and 330 ft :fire:! I was pissed. I decided to hang around in the grandstands for an hour to watch how the other guys were doing. The guy that bet me $20 to race against his van. I went back there to see if he was still good for the but he wasn't there, he was in his car on line to race. He eventually did show up and he told me he actually didn't have his van with him. Turns out it was an old Dodge van with a turbo slant six. He claims it runs 13.6 which is way faster than my car but I'll have to take his word for it. Eventually, Gregg found me again, we had a quick chat, he said I did a good run but the time didn't show. Then we both talked for half an hour and he went home.

About a half hour after Gregg left, I decided to give it one last try. I had a little trouble finding the start of the line so I ended up going down the wrong road that was an exit from the track to the parking lot. I realized this and turned around and got to where I should be. You'd be surpised how many people like Marauders btw. There was a guy in another Neon SRT4 that came up to me and had an assortment of questions. He thought the cars came with the supercharged Cobra motor and I gave him a lecture about how the cars are 305 stock and what not. He he liked my car but he said his Neon has a lot of mods. Said it would run mid 12s so I told him I don't want to go against him. I ended up going against a project car 03 Mustang GT. It was a father and son team. The dad was teaching his kid how to drag race, I wish my dad was more like that :cry: btw.

He had a 2v mod motor in there but he's waiting on a Aviator 4v. He's going to keep the iron block, use the 4v heads and supercharge it. Anyway, I told him to do what the guy in the Evo told me. Wait for the 3rd yellow light. We ended up racing each other. He got a red light, he left early but I got a green and I had an amazing reaction time of .078. I actually beat him. He kept miss-shifting his Mustang and I ended up being almost five car lengths ahead of him when it was done. I was kind of diasapointed though. The run was 14.803 at 90.78 mph and I'm not sure what went wrong.

I know I let off the gas a tad early before passing the billboard and I don't think I hooked up that well on take off. I did a fairly big burnout before that run. The Mustang ran 15.396 btw. After that I talked with the son and his dad. I asked if they ever go to Tower Records for the meets and they said the frequently do go so expect to see a Jake and a Tim walking over to speak to us at the next meet! I think the father,Tim, may be interested in a Marauder. He was really happy to see I had one. He said he never saw one in person before. So they eventually left, and then I eventually left after the track closed and everyone went home. I stopped the car before I left the track to wipe off the number they put on your windshield to identify your car and then I got some gas from a local Mobile to get me home.

Anway, it was great and we all have to go up as a group. Now I know it's a far drive for most of us Broward dwellers. It's about 85 miles one way and a butt load of tolls. About $9.00 in total all around for tolls. It is worth it though.

Tallboy
12-04-2005, 05:51 AM
I was there Saturday the 3rd and ran twice. No other Marauder was running however Gregg was there with his procharged car.

Greg's car has a Vortech.

ole69
12-04-2005, 08:16 AM
Boy you are nervous.........it's a 302.......and Tower Shoppes

But I feel ya', the excitement of draggin' on a Sat nite in 65*F weather was pretty awesome

I ran twice, my brother ran the stock '99 vette three times for a best of 13.3
He raced an '05 stock 'vette on race 2 and 3
And was edged by a nose or more in both races

My stocker ran 15.955 w/a .971 and 16.079 w/a .727
Gotta practice the tree more to cut down the r/t's

The MPH was identical on both runs:88.07mph
I ran with the o.d. off, i wonder if it being on would've raised it more
It seems like the car reached it's limit for 3rd gear and would hold the max speed thru the traps

I raced two 350Zs' on both runs they ran 13.87 and 13.046

I most likely will be going to Bradenton Desoto on the next Runday to take a different car in a couple weeks ;):beatnik: :bandit:

ole69
12-04-2005, 08:24 AM
Boy you are nervous.........it's a 302.......and Tower Shoppes

But I feel ya', the excitement of draggin' on a Sat nite in 65*F weather was pretty awesome

I ran twice, my brother ran the stock '99 vette three times for a best of 13.3
He raced an '05 stock 'vette on race 2 and 3
And was edged by a nose or more in both races

My stocker ran 15.955 w/a .971 and 16.079 w/a .727
Gotta practice the tree more to cut down the r/t's

The MPH was identical on both runs:88.07mph
I ran with the o.d. off, i wonder if it being on would've raised it more
It seems like the car reached it's limit for 3rd gear and would hold the max speed thru the traps

I raced two 350Zs' on both runs they ran 13.87 and 13.046

I most likely will be going to Bradenton Desoto on the next Runday to take a different car in a couple weeks ;):beatnik: :bandit:

BTW it was nice meeting you StevenJ saw a few other Panthers around too

marauderboi
12-04-2005, 08:28 AM
My dad gets his best reaction times by not doing a burnout because when we do do one we always get tire slippage
So maybe that will slove your traction prblems

This is just a suggestion

StevenJ
12-04-2005, 09:03 AM
Boy you are nervous.........it's a 302.......and Tower Shoppes

But I feel ya', the excitement of draggin' on a Sat nite in 65*F weather was pretty awesome

I ran twice, my brother ran the stock '99 vette three times for a best of 13.3
He raced an '05 stock 'vette on race 2 and 3
And was edged by a nose or more in both races

My stocker ran 15.955 w/a .971 and 16.079 w/a .727
Gotta practice the tree more to cut down the r/t's

The MPH was identical on both runs:88.07mph
I ran with the o.d. off, i wonder if it being on would've raised it more
It seems like the car reached it's limit for 3rd gear and would hold the max speed thru the traps

I raced two 350Zs' on both runs they ran 13.87 and 13.046

I most likely will be going to Bradenton Desoto on the next Runday to take a different car in a couple weeks ;):beatnik: :bandit:
Oh so you're the guy who came up to me, lol! Nah, by the time I actually sat online to wait for the alchol classes to finish up and the line started moving for the guys waiting on the test and tune, I was very calm. Good to know you ran under 16! Hope you had fun!


Greg's car has a Vortech.

I changed it in the post. My bad Greg!


My dad gets his best reaction times by not doing a burnout because when we do do one we always get tire slippage
So maybe that will slove your traction prblems

This is just a suggestion

I think you mean 1/4 times. Reaction times are all about how awake you are. That's irrelevant whether you have done a burnout or not.

JMan
12-04-2005, 10:30 AM
Hey Steven, watch out! I've seen marauderboi ride out a 14.9xx with the old man. That was on a pretty warm humid day with a slick track:banana: .

J

ole69
12-04-2005, 10:43 AM
BTW I skipped the water with no burnout and ran with the spare in the trunk ;)

MarauderMarc
12-04-2005, 10:49 AM
Steven, you dont need to do a burnout on street tires. I always go around the puddles ans avoid them. If you were running drag radials, then smoke em up before. I cant wait to get to the track, if only my stupid chip would come in the mail.

StevenJ
12-04-2005, 03:37 PM
Steven, you dont need to do a burnout on street tires. I always go around the puddles ans avoid them. If you were running drag radials, then smoke em up before. I cant wait to get to the track, if only my stupid chip would come in the mail.
That's what I should of done but well........... :burnout:! Let's say I had to! I did make one bad mistake though. I drove the front tires through the water box. That I shouldn't of done. There really wasn't that much of a waterbox though. It was a very tiny amount of water. How much do drag radials cost btw? They should help me times out a bit right? Gregg told me the same thing in person. I decided that I really wanted to do a burnout though on both runs. Who did you order your chip from btw? Who's doing the tune?

BTW I skipped the water with no burnout and ran with the spare in the trunk ;) I left my spare in my trunk too.

Cobra25
12-04-2005, 05:26 PM
Greg's car has a Vortech. Greggash Marauder has a Vortech Air to Air S/C. in it. He had it at the Tower Shop's about a week ago. He told me he was Dynoed at 450 RWHP.

Cobra25
12-04-2005, 05:28 PM
Glad you had fun at the track. Nice run 14.8

RoyLPita
12-04-2005, 05:46 PM
congrats on going to the track. BTW, thanx for the invite, but I got it too late to respond. Keep up the good work.

StevenJ
12-05-2005, 06:44 AM
Glad you had fun at the track. Nice run 14.8

Could of done a bit better though. Maybe next time on a slightly warmer day. The tires will hook up a little better and what not.

MarauderMarc
12-07-2005, 10:34 PM
Could of done a bit better though. Maybe next time on a slightly warmer day. The tires will hook up a little better and what not.

ummmmm no, you want cooler temps, they make ETs fall.

juno
12-08-2005, 06:53 AM
Moroso has only 3 more dates this year, 9, 13, 16 Dec and the 1320 closes for the year. Anyone up for the 13th?

shakes_26
12-08-2005, 07:15 AM
you mean 14th? Thats the Wednesday TnT nite.

StevenJ
12-08-2005, 07:40 AM
ummmmm no, you want cooler temps, they make ETs fall.
Yeah but if it is too cold, the tires won't hook up right. It was 62 degrees, I would like 73 degrees. I also need to replace my tires. After about 6,000 miles, they are a bit worn. I'm going to get the KDW2s like on Cobra's car.

Dragcity
12-08-2005, 07:58 AM
Keep the worn out tires for the track and I recommend warming them up with that burnout. Hold it in the water for 6 seconds, until they smoke good, then let off the brake and keep 'em spinning out of the box. That blows off any excess water and chunks. Stage right away and don't wove, that keeps the sticky, melted rubber in one place for a good launch. Play your light game and hit it.

Now, when you are fully staged, and your opponent is fully staged, hold your left foot on the brake and bring your RPM up with your right foot on the accelerator. Kinda like a brake torque. Make sure you don't move (otherwise you will red light) and be sure the rears don't slip. You have to play with this on your car to see how far you can push the torque converter before it engages and brakes the rear tires free. The idea here is to get the engine closer to peak HP RPMs. You can probably get it up to 1,600 RPM, which is closer to 4,000 than 600 RPM.

When you see your yellow, let go of the brake and hit the accelerator simultaneously and let 'er rip. Keep the gas to the boards and don't let go.

Be sure T/C is off BTW. I don't think it will matter if O/D is on or off, as you won't hit fourth anyway in the 1/4 mi.

It takes a lot of practice to get those great reaction times - consistently. You did very well. Glad you had fun.

The above are things I do when drag racing a street car. Everyone has a different approach, and as another member says "Your results may vary".

Drive safely...

StevenJ
12-08-2005, 08:48 AM
Well I did most of what you mentioned, I held the brakes and kept revs around 1200 rpm. My burnout lasted around six seconds, maybe a bit longer. The only other thing is that I did let off just before I got to the boards. So looks like I'm doing everything right for the most part. BTW? Does anyone know where I can get KDW2s for the Marauder? Tire Rack doesn't seem to have it.

ridinclean
12-08-2005, 11:16 AM
BTW? Does anyone know where I can get KDW2s for the Marauder? Tire Rack doesn't seem to have it.
Tire rack has them, you have to go with a different size in the rear: 255/55
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=BFGoodrich&model=g-Force+T/A+KDW+2

woaface
12-09-2005, 09:03 AM
I'm going to moroso some night while I'm in FL...:)

shakes_26
12-09-2005, 10:57 AM
The 14th it is!!!

StevenJ
12-09-2005, 06:30 PM
Wish I could meet up with you Shakes but I doubt it. I got school early on Thursday. Anyway, I'm getting the OEM tires from BJ's for $334 including installation. I don't know if I really trust em to install right. I mean, I know it was late when I got there to order the tires, around 6:50, but the attendant I was talking to was clearly high off weed. I know what you guys are thinking but I've seen my fair share of potheads in my life and this guy's eyes were blood shot red. However, it's that or $447 at TireKingdom or $433 at TirePlus. If I just buy it from BJ's and have it installed at TirePlus, they won't give me a warranty on the installation. BJ's gives me a 30 day warranty on miss alignment etc. So I don't know. Just so you know, TirePlus was going to have it ready for me next day and BJ's will take a week. TireKingdom, at the price they charged me, would of forced me to wait 5-7 days. So I don't know. All I know is that these OEM tires are expensive.