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rurumon
04-04-2003, 05:24 PM
Anyone considering powdercoating or painting their calipers? just thinking that painting the calipers red would go rather nicely with those gorgeous rims. Problem is, I wish I had a small stencil of the mercury logo that I could paint on the caliper, that would really be sweet. Anyone have any thoughts?

LincMercLover
04-04-2003, 06:12 PM
I had that same idea when I bought the car! However, I've not pursued it yet...

Marauderman
04-04-2003, 06:19 PM
WOW---I just left the body shop today and the guys said they will paint my calibers black with high heat resitant paint cause it looks like a pigeon pooped on them from the factory--WOW---thanks guys--I will tell them to paint them RED instead of BLACK--DUH!!!!!! I shouda though of that as well....these guys in the body shop are willing to do anything I ask to this car to make me happy--( do I need to tell you why) -so come on with more ideas guys....still have pleanty of time to have them incoroporated into the car...lets hear them..

CRUZTAKER
04-04-2003, 06:22 PM
OH YEAH, I bought the powder coat kit (red) from a mail order paint mag. This is on my list when the weather up north improves enough to bring out the backup car. The MM will be on jacks for several days to complete this process. I'm psyched.....

rurumon
04-04-2003, 06:31 PM
the more that i think about it the less I want to powder coat. Looks like to do it right it costs alot of money, and Hi temp paint applied well and with enough time and effort will have the same effect. Looks like I'll be digging into this soon, perhaps tomorrow, I'll let you all know how it goes.


BTW, are the calipers a pain to remove?

CRUZTAKER
04-04-2003, 06:59 PM
This system offered to me, you do not. Maybe I gave the wrong impression. I want to do all 4 at the same time, thus jack stands. And they have to dry 24 hours, thus alternate car. Total cost=$38.

Besides, my alternate is TOOOO cool

Marauderman
04-04-2003, 07:02 PM
It's perfect for my situation--everything seems to be "off her" now --so it works out perfect.....any more help as to what I should do in this situation...???

TAF
04-04-2003, 07:16 PM
"L.A. Bob"...otherwise known as Bob Mathis from Lower Alabama painted his and they looked good. I saw them when he came up to one of our Atlanta Breakfast meets. Maybe he'll chime-in here with some tips....

Vince Gortner
04-04-2003, 08:06 PM
Hmmm. I was thinking about this too. Eastwood Auto Supply sells a caliper coating kit for $50 that includes a cleaner/ degreaser and application brushes that make this whole thing look easy.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/aspfiles/itemdy00.asp?UID=2003040421555 463&T1=10270Z

The instructions say that the stuff is dry and ready for a second coat if needed after 15 minutes. Sounds real easy except for the color choice. They offer a variety of goofy colors like yellow & purple, but I'm kinda torn between red and Ford blue. Either way I may have to change my Bob White's to match.

JBcarnut
04-04-2003, 10:58 PM
Hmmmm, interesting. Remember the Bullitt Mustangs have red Brembo calipers, but the new SVT Cobra in the showroom when I picked up my car last night didn't have noticeable calipers. A godshead white stencil on whatever color would look cool on a Marauder.

Menace
04-04-2003, 11:10 PM
More godsheads? NO!

JBcarnut
04-04-2003, 11:31 PM
LOL!! OK, a modern Mercury logo then. Or even, no logo, just a nice painted caliper. To be technically correct though, I wonder if a Ford logo would be the right logo if you had to have one ?

CRUZTAKER
04-04-2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Vince Gortner
Hmmm. I was thinking about this too. Eastwood Auto Supply sells a caliper coating kit for $50 that includes a cleaner/ degreaser and application brushes

That was it, Eastwood Co.........damn, I paid $50?
I thought it was cheaper. Anyway, this is the kit I purchased.
And true, alot of colors to choose from...enough to make EVERYONE happy. :)

And for the athiests, let them corrode and be happy as well!

martyo
04-05-2003, 05:32 AM
Cruz: Did you paint the calipers yet? If so, post pictures man!!

rurumon
04-05-2003, 04:05 PM
Painted them today, I'll get some pics up as soon as I can. Currently the car is drying far away from my home and digital camera

rurumon
04-05-2003, 04:17 PM
heres a link to the pics, let me know what you think

brake painting (http://www.cavbooks.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=12544#post12544)

jgc61sr2002
04-05-2003, 04:27 PM
rurumon - The calipers look good. The only thing I would recommend is using a car cover to prevent overspray for getting on the car. John

screamdennis
04-06-2003, 12:49 AM
hi rurumon : calipers look great , did you use the eastwood kit ? and how long did the paint take to dry ? i checked out you pictures and again the MM looks great . dennis

martyo
04-06-2003, 05:13 AM
I thought the Eastwood kit was brush on. It looks like rumson used a spray. Rumson, details man, give us the details!

By the way, I heard RF is going with the purple that Eastwood sells.

rurumon
04-06-2003, 12:39 PM
I just used some hi temp engine paint I got from advanced auto. I usually gave it about 15 minutes between coats, 3 coats total. Left it around for the night to let it dry.

RF Overlord
04-06-2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by martyo
By the way, I heard RF is going with the purple that Eastwood sells.

What else would an Overlord use but Royal Purple???

MMpridenjoy
04-06-2003, 04:40 PM
I think the painted calipers look pretty good. I would have to personally go with the Ford Oval Blue.....

Oval Blue (http://www.eastwoodco.com/aspfiles/itemdy00.asp?UID=2003040421555 463&T1=10272Z&Dep_Key1=)

bugsys03
04-06-2003, 04:54 PM
thats not for me

rurumon
04-06-2003, 05:31 PM
That blue looks sweet.

BTW, anyone know of any hi temp decals of the mercury logo/ godshead that I can stick on the calipers? I considered using a stencil, but my artistic talent is lacking.

Bob Mathis
04-06-2003, 06:49 PM
Hi guy's, that I would tell you all what I did with my calipers. I used VHT Red Caliper paint and alot of masking tape. But they do look good, to me any way.

mdmarauder
04-07-2003, 07:07 AM
Speaking of Calipers. Yesterday while looking at the new 300B Marauders at the local dealer I noticed something. The brake Calipers seemed to be painted black instead of the light gray my 300A has.

jgc61sr2002
04-07-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by mdmarauder
Speaking of Calipers. Yesterday while looking at the new 300B Marauders at the local dealer I noticed something. The brake Calipers seemed to be painted black instead of the light gray my 300A has. Md you are correct they are black and the rotor hub is also painted black. John

RCSignals
04-07-2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by mdmarauder
Speaking of Calipers. Yesterday while looking at the new 300B Marauders at the local dealer I noticed something. The brake Calipers seemed to be painted black instead of the light gray my 300A has.

Interesting. the calipers on my 300B are a dark grey-green

jgc61sr2002
04-08-2003, 05:14 AM
Like they say Marauders are like snowflakes no two are the same. John

CRUZTAKER
04-08-2003, 06:05 AM
I am reluctant to use spray paint.....high temp or not. I once saw a Honda in a parking lot that had calipers that were clearly spray painted.

Not having done so, but I believe the powder coat gives a more smoother, deeper coating.

RCSignals
04-08-2003, 05:32 PM
CRUZTAKER
Are you sure you are going to be powder coating yours? Powder coating would involve taking the calipers apart and baking them in an oven

martyo
04-08-2003, 05:41 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but the Eastwood kit appears to be a two-part, epoxy type paint.

Vince Gortner
04-08-2003, 07:47 PM
That's the way it looks to me. Looks easy, and I don't see why it would need to dry overnight. A few good, hard stops oughta heat things up enough for a nice cure on the epoxy.

martyo
04-08-2003, 09:41 PM
I have a funny feeling I have painted brake calipers in my future. I am torn between the red and the black......

WolfeBros
04-08-2003, 10:08 PM
It must be a virus......I have that same feeling and confusion over colors. :rolleyes:

CRUZTAKER
04-09-2003, 07:06 AM
RC: ^^^they're right. No taking apart. Just a steady hand, and perhaps a couple spare high quality brushes. Patience. Time.

These are the 'little' projects I enjoy because I can do it right, and tell others..."I did it".

I ended up with the red kit, because the wife changed her mind. Now she wants black. :confused:

MAD-3R
04-09-2003, 07:15 AM
No confusion here. Any accent color on this beast will be red. Bob Whites, Rear badge accents, anything.

CRUZTAKER
04-09-2003, 07:44 AM
So that's how it is......got road kill???? :lol:

MAD-3R
04-09-2003, 07:55 AM
Hmmm, streaking red down it's side.... yeah...

mensrea
04-10-2003, 06:53 AM
Paint is great, but Baer is better, and it comes in red!

LincMercLover
04-10-2003, 06:56 AM
OK, who's going with me to steal his brakes? Anyone? :D :uzi:

ilpimp
04-10-2003, 10:04 AM
pick me up tonight LML and we'll take the breaks!!

jk

martyo
04-10-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by mensrea
Paint is great, but Baer is better, and it comes in red!

Bill: Can you give me more info on the brakes? Are they four piston? Are they a direct bolt up? Do you have part numbers?

mensrea
04-10-2003, 11:37 AM
Nope, they are not four piston, they are two piston PBR calipers and 14 inch two piece rotors up front. Car and Driver said the following ". With that kind of firepower, it's no wonder upgraded front brakes are part of the package. The Baer/PBR brakes feature 14-inch rotors, and two-piston calipers provide firm brake-pedal feel and fade-free 171-foot stops from 70 mph. " I cant find the decrease in stopping distance, but it was dramatic, and fade free stops from a 4000 lb car are fantastic.

Check out their web site www.baer.com or call Kenny Brown.

martyo
04-10-2003, 01:13 PM
Bill: Will these fit under the stock rims?

jefferson-mo
04-10-2003, 01:23 PM
those are stock rims




aren't they




I'm sure they are





aren't they

CRUZTAKER
04-10-2003, 03:02 PM
mensrea's brakes.......red yes...but ALOT of green to achieve THAT red!!!

:up:

mensrea
04-10-2003, 03:38 PM
Brakes fit under stock rims... and not that much $$$$... around 1,000 bucks for calipers, rotors, pads, stainless steel brake lines. The brakes stop much better than stock, and look totally cool!!!!

martyo
04-10-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by mensrea
it's no wonder upgraded front brakes are part of the package.

Bill: I hope you don't mind my picking your brain. Can I infer from this post that the rear brakes on your car stock?

rurumon
04-10-2003, 05:02 PM
Now, i dont mean to flame or anything here, but isnt 1000 bucks a tad steep for 2 piston PBR's for only two sets of wheels? I mean, PBR calipers are factory equipment on alot of cars out there, are our calipers PBR? they look frighteningly similar to the front calipers on my GT, and those were PBR. I would think that for that moola I would at least be getting 4 pistons. Out of curiosity, are there any 4 piston kits out there? i wonder how much they run.

Seems that with a bigger set of rotors, some hawk pads and some SS lines, our stock brakes would perform nearly as well as the baer brakes, though distinctly less cool.

mensrea
04-11-2003, 07:58 AM
Marty---I only have zinc washed slotted rotors on the rear to match the appearance of the fronts, calipers are stock.

As for the PBRs up front, I am not totally familiar with the type of caliper, except that they are much larger than stock and apparently haul the marauder down faster than our original brakes. In fact Car and Driver in the same issue tested an 03 cobra, and a Gulstrand Corvette, my marauder stopped from 70mph in 171 feet, the Gulstrand Corvette stopped in 172 feet, and the 03 cobra stopped in 179 feet... granted the Rx-8 and G35 stopped in around 164 feet, but they weigh 3500 and 3000 lbs respectively. So the system on my car seems to haul us down nicely. A 4400 lb car that stops faster than a z06 mod vette is pretty sweet.

I think the calipers offer a substantially greater pad volume than stock.

Is it worth it for a grand... seems to me it is. If you price the corvette calipers, pads, add two piece rotors that are 14 inches as well as ss lines a grand doesn't seem that bad. And I am fairly positive that the calipers from Baer are not the same as on the mustangs....

I don't work for Baer, I just like the brakes... if someone finds a four piston set up for a grand from a repetuable company let me know.... I would be curious to see the benefits.

NickLee
04-11-2003, 09:19 AM
I like the Blue.

jefferson-mo
04-11-2003, 10:21 AM
That's a reasonble price 'cause Brembo's for a Cobra are about $1400 and that's just for calipers rotors pads and lines......


SHM sells a 6 piston 14" front brake setup for $4295.00 and it won't fit under the stock wheels.............SERIOUS brakes!

rurumon
04-11-2003, 10:26 AM
mensrea-


Wow! i had no idea those two pistons could stop that well. In fact, it just doesnt sit right. I mean, the brakes on the vette are at least the same size, it doesnt make sense that a car thats 800 lbs heavier stops shorter. Do you see what I mean? So this leads me to believe that car and driver has their head up their bums again, supplying us with strange nonsensical data.

Dont you agree it seems a bit odd?

mensrea
04-11-2003, 11:20 AM
As for Car and Driver, who knows how reliable their test data is, I know the car is quicker than 13.1 in the 1/4. But, as far as a baseline goes, one would assume that they use the same testing methods on all cars, so one would hope that you would be able to compare results. But then again...

That being said, I have driven this car a lot now, and this car has great barkes I believe it does stop fairly closely to a Z06, but that's just my aXX meter.

Do I think the brake system is worth a grand, yes, will everyone agree with me... nope. All I can say is drive a car with the Baers and see what you think.

If anyone has any questions about my brakes I am more than glad to answer.

For the record I wanted 4 piston calipers, but couldn't swing the extra dough... I am happy with these though.

edited to correct spell check whackiness[I]

martyo
04-11-2003, 11:26 AM
For the record I wanted 4 piston calipers, but couldn't swing the extra dough... I am happy with these though.


mensrea: Now you know why I am working on Sundays.....LOL!!!