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Rider90
12-25-2005, 03:07 PM
Look what Santa brought :D

Blitzsafe UII Universal iPod Interface:
http://midwestpanthers.net/blitz.jpg

P.I.E. FRD03-AUX Input Converter:
http://midwestpanthers.net/pie.jpg
http://midwestpanthers.net/blitz2.jpg
"MAURAUDER" :eek:

The only problem I've run into is they both have female connections so I need male only cables to plug and play. I bought an item from P.I.E. over one year ago that was supposed to give me an aux input on our 04 stereos and the R&D was so premature you had to order a cable for a Ford Focus and splice and connect about 20 tiny wires to get it to work. About four hours and a couple hundred later, it didn't work :mad: "Take Two!" I've been using the tape deck converter for too long now. I'll let you guys know how this stuff works out.

This setup connects to the bottom port of the iPod and provides sound and keeps it charged. You still navigate off the iPod which is exactly what I want.

ghost03
12-25-2005, 03:54 PM
Please keep us posted. I just got an Ipod for christmas and i want to connect it in the car

blackf0rk
12-25-2005, 06:13 PM
Yes, please. Keep us/me posted on this. I have been wanting to do this for a long time. I bought an interface kind of like this one and it didn't work - so I am looking for the correct 'combination' ;)

fastblackmerc
12-25-2005, 07:23 PM
Might want to checkout http://www.logjamelectronics.com Got an interface from them to hook an OmniFi up to my MM and my daughters new RX-8.

bigslim
12-25-2005, 08:19 PM
Look what Santa brought :D

Blitzsafe UII Universal iPod Interface:
http://midwestpanthers.net/blitz.jpg

P.I.E. FRD03-AUX Input Converter:
http://midwestpanthers.net/pie.jpg
http://midwestpanthers.net/blitz2.jpg
"MAURAUDER" :eek:

The only problem I've run into is they both have female connections so I need male only cables to plug and play. I bought an item from P.I.E. over one year ago that was supposed to give me an aux input on our 04 stereos and the R&D was so premature you had to order a cable for a Ford Focus and splice and connect about 20 tiny wires to get it to work. About four hours and a couple hundred later, it didn't work :mad: "Take Two!" I've been using the tape deck converter for too long now. I'll let you guys know how this stuff works out.

This setup connects to the bottom port of the iPod and provides sound and keeps it charged. You still navigate off the iPod which is exactly what I want.
I will be interested in how this turns out. Keep us posted.

Rider90
12-25-2005, 08:47 PM
Might want to checkout http://www.logjamelectronics.com
Dat's Da' Place!

I will begin my search for the right connectors tomorrow after work :banana:

Vortech347
12-27-2005, 08:15 AM
So that converter wasn't just plug'n play huh?

CRUZTAKER
12-27-2005, 08:27 AM
OK bear with me....

How will the iPod connect to the stereo now? And how does it differ from using the cassette adapter?

I realize that you now will no longer need a second cable to do the charging portion...but we still will have a cable loose in the car right?

Rider90
12-27-2005, 08:53 AM
OK bear with me....

How will the iPod connect to the stereo now? And how does it differ from using the cassette adapter?

I realize that you now will no longer need a second cable to do the charging portion...but we still will have a cable loose in the car right?
The iPod will connect, now, to the back of the stereo. At louder volumes the sound quality will be night & day verses the technology of the tapedeck. There must be one cable right? And if you choose to leave it loose in the car, thats up to you. I already have my plan of where I am running the cable so the only part you see is what connects to the bottom of the iPod.

Rider90
12-27-2005, 08:58 AM
So that converter wasn't just plug'n play huh?
Looks very plug and play to me.

I was warned in the installation instructions that I may need more cables, and I did. I picked them up yesterday from Circuit City. Now whether or not the reseller decided to add that warning to their website is up to them, but after my experience with their old iPod2Car I was expecting much worse. $20 for a 3' male to male connector cable - Now you know.

jaywish
12-27-2005, 07:11 PM
Hi,

Did I read the instructions correctly? Does not work with 6 disk changer?

Thanks
Jay

Rider90
12-28-2005, 01:26 PM
:::MID-INSTALL:::

One thing I like so far:

If there is no CD in the in-dash player, you can select "CD" and it will select the iPod as it's source. If you put in a CD, it will play the CD. I was worried about losing that function.

One thing that will prevent me from installing this completely:

You cannot adjust the volume on the iPod - that is bad because by default it sets it to full 100% and that equals to horrible, horrible distortion at any volume. I am sending an E-mail to both Logjam and Blitzsafe describing my concerns.

CRUZTAKER
12-28-2005, 03:51 PM
...that is bad because by default it sets it to full 100% (volume) .....

What " IT " are you speaking of? The iPod, the pie, or the blitz?

Rider90
12-28-2005, 05:17 PM
What " IT " are you speaking of? The iPod, the pie, or the blitz?
Who knows...That is why I sent an E-mail to both Blitzsafe and logjam. It can be plugged in and playing and the volume bar on the iPod can slide lower and higher yet without any real results. Something makes the iPod default to 100% volume no matter where the volume bar is, and I'm having trouble deciding which one because they both have their own conversion boxes. Depending on the E-mail replies I may just get a cable like this (http://www.monstercable.com/MP3/productPageMP3.asp?pin=1731&LastPage=Monster%20iPod%20-%20Monster%20Products%20for%20 iPod%204th%20Generation%20with %20Click%20Wheel)and elimate the Blitzsafe device so I can narrow it down.

Rider90
12-29-2005, 08:04 PM
I did not get a response from either sides during this business day, so, I have done some experimenting myself. In iTunes there is an option for volume adjustment. I selected all 3347 songs of mine and uniformly changed the volume adjustment to take off about 90%

I'll keep you guys informed. Cross yer fingers for me.

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Rider90
12-29-2005, 09:04 PM
I reduced the volume by 90% and nadda. It made a huge difference on the playback from my computer, but nothing as far as the iPod goes. I'll play more tomorrow...

hutch
12-29-2005, 09:25 PM
Does the factory trunk 6-disc cd changer still work with it installed?
Hutch

Rider90
12-29-2005, 09:29 PM
I'm not sure, that's why I didn't chime in the first time it was asked. But here goes:

"If the factory CD Changer is present, you will need to disconnect it from the factory harness."

Disconnect can't be a good thing, but I would send an E-mail to techsupport@logjamelectronics. com and ask. I know the in-dash CD player still works, so you'll still have a CD player if the 6-disc does not work.

Rider90
12-29-2005, 09:35 PM
I should have posted these links a long time ago here....

http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piefrd03aux.html

http://www.logjamelectronics.com/blitzuii.html

Warpath
12-30-2005, 01:47 PM
I always run my iPod at full volume with my FM transmitter, A/V receiver dock, and tape adapter. Its the only way it will sound loud enough. There is never any distortion. So, I don't see the issue with running it at full volume.

blackf0rk
12-30-2005, 02:09 PM
I always run my iPod at full volume with my FM transmitter, A/V receiver dock, and tape adapter. Its the only way it will sound loud enough. There is never any distortion. So, I don't see the issue with running it at full volume.

You're probably not hearing distortion because the FM modulator (no matter which one you have) comes with distortion already. :depress:

Rider90
12-30-2005, 03:06 PM
You're probably not hearing distortion because the FM modulator (no matter which one you have) comes with distortion already. :depress:
I can't run at full volume even with the tapedeck converter, at most maybe around 85% or 90% anything higher is loaded with distortion.

blackf0rk
12-30-2005, 03:11 PM
I can't run at full volume even with the tapedeck converter, at most maybe around 85% or 90% anything higher is loaded with distortion.

Yes me too. The tape deck doesn't have noticable distortion; so when you turn up the iPod past 90% you'll hear the added distortion.

When I had my griffen iTrip, the distortion on the thing was unbearable - had to return it (things not even worth $5). But if you use one of them, and you turn the iPod up, I doubt you'll hear the difference since the distortion already present is high.

Rider90
12-30-2005, 03:13 PM
BTW...Logjam sent a reply today. Nothing from Blitzsafe.

Logjam told me they had no record of my order, they searched the address and names and came up with nothing. I could question why it's important? But I'll just play. I'll keep ya'll informed...

Warpath
12-31-2005, 12:22 PM
My A/V receiver dock actually amplifies the full volume signal. The dock uses the bottom port and not the head phone port. Perhaps that's the difference. The FM transmitter was a bad example. That thing is a piece of crap.

HookedOnCV
01-01-2006, 12:26 AM
I had a similar issue when I installed my OmniFi 20gb MP3 player. I used a similar model P.I.E. interface to get aux in (RCA line in) connections to the factory head unit.

I did have to disconnect the CD changer, but that was where I installed my OmniFi in its place. When I connected the RCA cables from the OmniFi to the P.I.E. interface, I had horrible distortion and a louder than normal volume (louder than the tape or radio).

I ended up ordering an adjustable attenuator from Harrison Labs (http://www.hlabs.com) (the X-Connect) to reduce the signal voltage coming into the new Aux input. I was able to match the same volume as the radio and tape player this way, and most importantly, I got rid of the horrible distortion.

Donny Carlson
01-01-2006, 09:20 AM
I had a similar issue when I installed my OmniFi 20gb MP3 player. I used a similar model P.I.E. interface to get aux in (RCA line in) connections to the factory head unit.

I did have to disconnect the CD changer, but that was where I installed my OmniFi in its place. When I connected the RCA cables from the OmniFi to the P.I.E. interface, I had horrible distortion and a louder than normal volume (louder than the tape or radio).

I ended up ordering an adjustable attenuator from Harrison Labs (http://www.hlabs.com) (the X-Connect) to reduce the signal voltage coming into the new Aux input. I was able to match the same volume as the radio and tape player this way, and most importantly, I got rid of the horrible distortion.

I was gonna say you'll need a line leveler to match input of the Ipod to what the head unit is expecting from the CD Changer. This could be up or down, depending on the device. In my case, it needed to boost the signal a bit.

You may want to consider the Blitzsafe cable that interconnects with the CD Changer. This interface plugs into the CD Changer, then the data cable plugs into it. This way you don't lose the CD changer functionality. It has RCA inputs and a power connection for the aux device.

fastblackmerc
01-01-2006, 09:52 AM
I had a similar issue when I installed my OmniFi 20gb MP3 player. I used a similar model P.I.E. interface to get aux in (RCA line in) connections to the factory head unit.

I did have to disconnect the CD changer, but that was where I installed my OmniFi in its place. When I connected the RCA cables from the OmniFi to the P.I.E. interface, I had horrible distortion and a louder than normal volume (louder than the tape or radio).

I ended up ordering an adjustable attenuator from Harrison Labs (http://www.hlabs.com) (the X-Connect) to reduce the signal voltage coming into the new Aux input. I was able to match the same volume as the radio and tape player this way, and most importantly, I got rid of the horrible distortion.
I added an OmniFi 60GB to my MM in place of the factory CD changer. I used logjam's P.I.E devices. I did remove the 6-CD changer and in it's place I mounted the OmniFi. The CD in the head unit still works and I have no disortion whatsoever when accessing the OmniFi.

Warpath
01-01-2006, 11:45 AM
I also just remembered that I did have some distortion with my iPod and I still had the iPod EQ set on bass boost. Once the iPod EQ was turned off, I haven't had any distortion.

blackf0rk
01-01-2006, 11:54 AM
All of this is really stupid. Why can't a company make a device that works. It's not like the iPod just came out.

Rider90
01-01-2006, 03:46 PM
Alright folks, here is the scoop.

The P.I.E. FRD03-AUX Item works flawlessly. Plug and play, works great, sounds great, leaves you with two female inputs.

The Blitsafe unit DOES charge, but it also DISABLES your volume control on the iPod. You can slide it up and down all you want, makes no difference, it will play your iPod song at full volume which is full of distortion. I have sent them an E-mail last week, and have had no reply. If they reply next week, I will bump this thread letting you know. So far I am unhappy with their technical support.

I just played around with a RCA cable that converts to a headphone jack and it is not the P.I.E. unit from logjam that disables the volume control, it is the Blitsafe unit. Take out the Blitzsafe unit and replace it with the RCA-Headphone jack cable and you have the full ability to adjust your iPod's volume, hence, sound is wonderful when around 80%. Without the Blitzsafe unit I will not be able to charge and play music from one port, both ports top and bottom will have to be utilized like I have been doing, unfortunatly. I'm very disapointed that Blitzsafe came out with this "Universal iPod Converter" and constructed a piece that was half assed :mad:

Donny Carlson
01-01-2006, 04:57 PM
I didn't "get it" intil I looked at your pics again. Send the Blitzsafe back. PAC makes a similar connector with male RCA plugs. I would check with this site's customer service to make sure it doesn't disable volume control like the Blitzsafe.

http://www.installer-data.com/item/display_item.php?it=pxp01


PS, scroll down this page and look at the ipod2car interface as well. http://www.installer.com/ipod/

Rider90
01-02-2006, 02:15 PM
As if more couldn't go wrong. And I'm sure it will with this project.

The P.I.E. Aux-FRD03 cables are too large to go behind the head unit. For those that have had their head units out, you can see how much room you have to work with. I managed to get the actual box on the ground resting on the transmission hump behind the console-gauge cluster. As far as getting the cables to fit, next I need to pull my dashboard apart and look for a place to open up. If any. I'm beginning to think the tape adapter was the best idea yet, or even better...CDs....I could go back to CDs...

:censor:

Rider90
01-02-2006, 03:43 PM
http://midwestpanthers.net/wires1.jpg
Clearly you can see the thickness of these wires bundled up, they don't want to bend or move at any angle.

http://midwestpanthers.net/wires2.jpg
A closer shot of the large connector that has no place to go. Now normally, the large connector connects to the back of the head unit and routes to the left, then up, then over the head unit, and back down to the right corner.

http://midwestpanthers.net/wires3.jpg
This is how far they will go in. Notice they have to be nearly flush with the connector already in the upper left for the head unit to be installed.

http://midwestpanthers.net/wires4.jpg
There is no chance I can cut into the immediate left or the right due to the air vents. Below the head unit deck where it rests on, seems hollow, but I do not want to risk the strength of the piece holding all the weight. If anything, I may be able to cut into the lower left, since the left side vent seems to just feed off the one to the right of the stereo by ducting above the head unit and not behind it.

If you're wondering why there are so many various-colored wire tires, that was from "iPod Attempt 2004."

I do not want to hack the guts of my dash, I also don't want to have tape player sound from my iPod. What to do :alone:

bigslim
01-02-2006, 06:19 PM
Buy a new radio with an AUX jack already in it. I don't know what is taking Ford so long to add an AUX plug. My new PT has one and it is great. Just plug the ipod in and I lose no quality.

Vortech347
01-02-2006, 08:07 PM
So if I just snagged the Pie and ran my own RCA's to it I'll be golden? Got a part number of the extra cable you had to buy? I just want to run an RCA/Y jack so I can use my mp3 player and my portable DVD player.

Rider90
01-02-2006, 10:01 PM
So if I just snagged the Pie and ran my own RCA's to it I'll be golden? Got a part number of the extra cable you had to buy? I just want to run an RCA/Y jack so I can use my mp3 player and my portable DVD player.
Get the P.I.E. unit and post pics of the install, please share the route you went through to get the cables in the dash. That is the only tricky part.

Rider90
01-02-2006, 10:07 PM
Buy a new radio with an AUX jack already in it. I don't know what is taking Ford so long to add an AUX plug. My new PT has one and it is great. Just plug the ipod in and I lose no quality.
The ideas are fading and the real options are showing themselves. I've informed logjam of the installation issue, not saying its their problem - the P.I.E. unit works exactly like it should - but if I was a consumer and was looking at this product I would prefer some warning about the installation on the website I'm ordering from.

Vortech347
01-02-2006, 10:10 PM
Get the P.I.E. unit and post pics of the install, please share the route you went through to get the cables in the dash. That is the only tricky part.
Thats what a Dremel is for :D

Alright so I won't need anything other than the PIE kit. I'm ordering it right now. So it WILL PLUG AND PLAY or do I need extra wires?...I havn't got a yes or no on that. I've just got so little time to dink with stuff lately.

Rider90
01-02-2006, 10:13 PM
Thats what a Dremel is for :D

Alright so I won't need anything other than the PIE kit. I'm ordering it right now. So it WILL PLUG AND PLAY or do I need extra wires?...I havn't got a yes or no on that. I've just got so little time to dink with stuff lately.
You will need an RCA to mini plug cable. I opted for this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006YZ3Y/ref=pd_cmp_rvi_1_a/103-0457875-3771066?n=172282

You can also get one at Radio Shack. With that cable, or similar, you are all set.

Vortech347
01-02-2006, 10:15 PM
Oh ok I got 3 of thoes laying around.

Ordered!!! I'll post install pics too. Thanks for being the gunipig for all of us! Its hard to go into uncharted territory sometimes.

Rider90
01-02-2006, 10:17 PM
Its hard to go into uncharted territory sometimes.
And you're up next :P

Vortech347
01-02-2006, 10:18 PM
Dang they wanted another 10$ for 3 day shipping. Ugh I just opted for standard. I hope it dosn't take to long to get here!

Warpath
01-03-2006, 10:02 AM
Buy a new radio with an AUX jack already in it. I don't know what is taking Ford so long to add an AUX plug. My new PT has one and it is great. Just plug the ipod in and I lose no quality.

x2. Just pick up an aftermarket HU with an iPod adapter such as Alpine or Pioneer. I got a close out Alpine HU and iPod adapter last year for something like $300-$350. It will also sound a great deal better than the OE stuff too (once I get it installed).

blackf0rk
01-03-2006, 01:25 PM
x2. Just pick up an aftermarket HU with an iPod adapter such as Alpine or Pioneer. I got a close out Alpine HU and iPod adapter last year for something like $300-$350. It will also sound a great deal better than the OE stuff too (once I get it installed).

Some people don't want to move to an aftermarket head unit because they enjoy their steering controls.

fastblackmerc
01-03-2006, 02:53 PM
Get the P.I.E. unit and post pics of the install, please share the route you went through to get the cables in the dash. That is the only tricky part.
With a LOT of finageling I was able to get the PIE unit go below and to the left (I think) of the head unit. It did take me some time to do it. Try and make the cables as straight as you can. If I get a chance later this week I'll pull the headunit out and take some pics, but I was able to get it in there.

Warpath
01-03-2006, 05:30 PM
Some people don't want to move to an aftermarket head unit because they enjoy their steering controls.

The Alpine HU I bought includes a wireless remote which will also control the iPod. Most higher end HUs will include a wireless remote. Its not exactly the same as the steering wheel controls. But, it could substitute. You could also wire the steering wheel controls into the wireless remote.

bigslim
01-03-2006, 07:00 PM
Some people don't want to move to an aftermarket head unit because they enjoy their steering controls.
There are some after market units that allow you to use an infared setup so that you can still use the steering wheels control.

blackf0rk
01-03-2006, 08:35 PM
There are some after market units that allow you to use an infared setup so that you can still use the steering wheels control.

Sounds polish to me. :rolleyes:

Vortech347
01-05-2006, 02:52 PM
UPS's tracking just said mine is delivered and waiting for me on the front porch. WOO HOO. That was quick shipping. I think I ordered it late monday night. Glad I didn't waste 10$ for 2 day shipping when it got here in 3 days!

I'll also post pics of the install. I'm going to try a quick install, I've got about 2 hours to dink with it tonight and thats it.

Rider90
01-05-2006, 02:57 PM
UPS's tracking just said mine is delivered and waiting for me on the front porch. WOO HOO. That was quick shipping. I think I ordered it late monday night. Glad I didn't waste 10$ for 2 day shipping when it got here in 3 days!

I'll also post pics of the install. I'm going to try a quick install, I've got about 2 hours to dink with it tonight and thats it.
Sounds good. My poor Marauder has been been dash-naked for a few days now. Pics are important :o

Vortech347
01-05-2006, 05:43 PM
Damn it. On the UPS tracking it says "Out for Delievery" all freaking day and its not here. Today was the delivery date too.

Rider90
01-05-2006, 06:02 PM
Damn it. On the UPS tracking it says "Out for Delievery" all freaking day and its not here. Today was the delivery date too.
For me, UPS delivers up to 8:00 PM

Vortech347
01-05-2006, 06:34 PM
Holy crap they just showed up. I've never had UPS come this late. hahaha Well i'm gona go see if I can install it in 15 minutes.

Todd
01-05-2006, 07:07 PM
There are some after market units that allow you to use an infared setup so that you can still use the steering wheels control.


http://www.crutchfield.com/S-V2Dp54Xrq9z/cgi-bin/prodsearch.asp?sp=lnav&cm_re_o=TkB_zkEzM*kwufEzM*lwzy gt&search=steering+wheel+controls


You mean these????


The PAC unit comes in a Alpine specific model, a Sony and Pioneer specific unit, and a general purpose unit......

Vortech347
01-05-2006, 11:05 PM
I havn't had time to install it....but....

The model number on this is FRD03-AUX. On the box it says Marauder but only 2004, on their site it said 2003-2004. Should I be worried?

Vortech347
01-06-2006, 10:40 AM
HOLY CRAP, talk about square peg in a round hole. That entire plastic tray thingy behind the dash will need to come out if I want to make this all fit. I'll need a good day to install it. Definatly *dash pull-a-part* is required. The other problem is I couldn't get it to work. It kept saying NO CD MAG. Any clue on why? My changer dosn't have a mag is that why? but shouldn't this "over ride" it or something.

Edit: FoMoCo part number on my radio is 3W3T-18C868-AA

Also Rider90 (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/member.php?u=1253): Where is the attaching hardware to get that dash bezel off. I see the 2 screws/bolts above the speedo cluster then what else? I havn't had this car apart yet so I have no clue.

I wonder why they didn't just make a freaking adaptor that goes between the changer and the plug. It would of been a hell of alot easier running RCA's to the front than dealing with this ****.

2nd edit: ha ha you'll love this. I called PIE and they do make an adaptor that just goes between the CD changer plug and the changer. You can retain use of both Changer and AUX and its about 25$ cheaper. www.pie.net/store

fastblackmerc
01-06-2006, 11:21 AM
HOLY CRAP, talk about square peg in a round hole. That entire plastic tray thingy behind the dash will need to come out if I want to make this all fit. I'll need a good day to install it. Definatly *dash pull-a-part* is required. The other problem is I couldn't get it to work. It kept saying NO CD MAG. Any clue on why? My changer dosn't have a mag is that why? but shouldn't this "over ride" it or something.

Edit: FoMoCo part number on my radio is 3W3T-18C868-AA

Also Rider90 (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/member.php?u=1253): Where is the attaching hardware to get that dash bezel off. I see the 2 screws/bolts above the speedo cluster then what else? I havn't had this car apart yet so I have no clue.

I wonder why they didn't just make a freaking adaptor that goes between the changer and the plug. It would of been a hell of alot easier running RCA's to the front than dealing with this ****.

2nd edit: ha ha you'll love this. I called PIE and they do make an adaptor that just goes between the CD changer plug and the changer. You can retain use of both Changer and AUX and its about 25$ cheaper. www.pie.net/store
No you don't have to pull the dash apart to get the box installed. I was able to get mine in there with some "work".... no cutting tho. That "plastic tray thingy" is actually aprt of the dash board... I don't think you want to remove it.

To get the dash face off:
1. remove the dot matrix trim under the radio
2. remove dot matrix trim under the headlight switch
3. remove the screws from the faceplate trim
4. remove the two screws you already found
5. be careful you don't scratch the trim on the top of the steering column

PM me if you have any Q's.... I'll give you my cell#.

MMM2003
01-06-2006, 11:49 AM
Also Rider90 (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/member.php?u=1253): Where is the attaching hardware to get that dash bezel off. I see the 2 screws/bolts above the speedo cluster then what else? I havn't had this car apart yet so I have no clue.

I wonder why they didn't just make a freaking adaptor that goes between the changer and the plug. It would of been a hell of alot easier running RCA's to the front than dealing with this ****.

2nd edit: ha ha you'll love this. I called PIE and they do make an adaptor that just goes between the CD changer plug and the changer. You can retain use of both Changer and AUX and its about 25$ cheaper. www.pie.net/store

So how does this unit work exactly? Will you loose the ability to run your CD Changer, but get two RCA jacks for an AUX device? Or is there a switch on the PIE unit, which allows you to select between the CD Changer or the AUX device?

Thanks any 411 you might have.

Peter

Vortech347
01-06-2006, 12:00 PM
This specific setup has no switch and you must unhook the 6-disc changer in the back. I called PIE and the reason it wasn't working he said was because I still had the changer plugged in. However he told me I could of just gotten an adaptor they sell that uses the 6-disc changer plug and has 3 sets of aux and you can switch between the factory changer and the Inputs by flicking a switch in on the input box. He was telling me which part numbers but I didn't have a pen to write them all down.

www.pie.net/store (http://www.pie.net/store) click factory radio with 6-disc and you can see what I mean.

I think this was probly the better way to go as I don't really use an I-pod mp3 player, I have an RCA one. I just want an input so I can hook my laptop, DVD player, whatever I want into it. But hey I'm new to altering a factory radio as I've always been one to ditch stock and go aftermarket but I want to keep my Merc looking stock.

my Infinities came today so I'm going to install them since I dont' have a drivers side door speaker so thats the first priority. I'll work on the PIE install later.

Vortech347
01-08-2006, 11:16 AM
Bingo got it installed and WOW it sounds terrific from my mp3 player, laptop, and portable DVD player. Inpluging the stock CD Changer was easy too. Just 3 little plastic plugs pull the carpet off around the changer and I simply unplugged it.

After close inspection I noticed the "radio tray" or surrouding area around the radio is a plastic cover. There is nothing under the bottom. I used my dremel with a rotary drill bit and cut the back of the pannel completely off and on the drivers side cut part of that tray out so that the bigger plug/wiring whould have a place to go. Then I took the line that goes into the little PIE box and ran that down the back so that it comes out the passanger side right next to the console/tranny tunnel. The Pie box plugged into it from under the dash and fits PERFECT. If I ever need to change the wires or put another accessory on it will be cake.

After modifying that tray the radio slid in really easy.

One trip/trick. When your cutting that plastic stuff don't finish your cut make it so you can break the piece off in your hand so it dosn't fall behind the dash. 2nd stick a little vacume hose in there while your cutting it will pick up 90% of the shavings...

This was very cool but if I had to do it again I would of shopped some more and gotten the setup that plugs where the 6-disc does and allows you to still use the 6-disc. Its not like the trunk dosn't have room for a few extra wires!

Rider90
01-08-2006, 05:29 PM
I got a hold of a Dremel today and did the deed. All is back together and lookin sweet! Will be testing out the system later..

Vortech347
01-08-2006, 05:57 PM
Excellent. The wife and I are going for a drive up the canyon and are going to watch "batman begins" should be nice goin through the stereo. :) Also drove the car around today listening to the MP3 player. Crystal clear music!!

Rider90
01-08-2006, 09:41 PM
Agreed! Excellent sound! The tapedeck gives a loud hiss and gets higher-pitched with louder volume. This is crisp and the bass is responsive, exactly like a CD.

FYI...When you hit "MODE" on the steering wheel and cycle through "FM1, FM2, CD, TAPE, etc..." A new option is now there, "CDDJ" which is the aux-input. I thought that was kinda neat, you can leave a CD in the in-dash player and still get the aux input.