Mviv?

[Redster]

So, it's time to schedule my 2006 vacation. Does anyone have a plan?
If I lived in Reno I would suggest Hot August Nights, the West Coast version of the Woodward Dream Cruise.

[FordNut]

So, it's time to schedule my 2006 vacation. Does anyone have a plan?
If I lived in Reno I would suggest Hot August Nights, the West Coast version of the Woodward Dream Cruise.
Very good question...

A few suggestions have been made, Florida and Atlanta among them. So far no organizers have announced a plan. I'd like to help pull it together but I know it takes a lot more time and effort than I can dedicate to the project.

[ridinclean]

Its about time this discussion begins :D The Florida/Georgia area sounds good since we do have a pretty strong Marauder population down here. But it all depends on those who are willing to put forth the time, dedication and effort that it would take to plan such an enormous event.

[Zack]

Somewhere in the Southeast sound the best.

[Hack Goby]

The IMOA wants to have there National event at the Woodward Dream Cruise this year and with Jerry Barnes being a regional director the Motor City Crew will be helping out and it will be our third annual Woodward Dream Cruise event so We all hope that the date of MaraudervilleIV is not to close to the date of the WDC as we don`t want to step on anybody's toes.Plus people on the website have shown an interest as to comming back to Woodward this year.I myself am looking forward to going to Marauderville this year where ever it is just to have a great time and hang out with my Marauder family.:beer:

[martyo]

Atlanta....everyone can stay at Todd's house.

[Petrograde]

Atlanta....everyone can stay at Todd's house.

dibs on the couch! :P

[martyo]

dibs on the couch! :P

Are you kidding? That's where Todd sleeps!

[Hack Goby]

I guess no one wants to talk about it.This time last year we had already laid the ground work on what we wanted to do.But no matter I plan on going no matter what.

[fastblackmerc]

I'm in for either Fla or Hotlanta.....

[HwyCruiser]

Just let me know where and when. I almost added a suggestion, then I remembered something that the great Iron Mike Tyson once said:

"Everybody's got plans... until they get hit.”

[Bluerauder]

The IMOA wants to have there National event at the Woodward Dream Cruise this year and with Jerry Barnes being a regional director the Motor City Crew will be helping out and it will be our third annual Woodward Dream Cruise event
Are you all planning on inviting us "out-of-towners" back again for some MCM hospitality? I had a blast at MV III/WDC and am seriously considering an encore visit !!! :D

[Dragcity]

I'm up for a cruise to someplace new. Figure out a date and I'll see about vacation time...

I can bring some beeeeer

[Ross]

Just let me know where and when. I almost added a suggestion, then I remembered something that the great Iron Mike Tyson once said:

"Everybody's got plans... until they get hit.”

Or in Tyson's case, until they get BIT!

[Hack Goby]

Are you all planning on inviting us "out-of-towners" back again for some MCM hospitality? I had a blast at MV III/WDC and am seriously considering an encore visit !!! :D
We still have the rights to the Burger King lot and yes there will be a "Motor City Marauders at the Woodward Dream CruiseIII" the only thing is we will be sharing it with the IMOA so spots will be limited.But right now nothing is set in stone.Plans are just beginning.Cost to do this is very high and it might be even higher this year as the Dream Cruise gets more about money and not the cruisers.Were not sure the IMOA really knows how much money is involved to do this but thats Jerrys job plus were hoping for more sponsors this year.I dont want to highjack this thread so lets get back to where we want MaraudervilleIV.Atlanta is fine with me but where ever it is I will be there.

[SID210SA]

I am looking forward to going to my first ever event, however I have questions; How does one travel to the event, do you put the miles on the MM or do you trailer it, how long does the event last, a week or just a weekend, are there discounts on hotels, what do I need to bring besides the MM and Plastic? Just a few questions for now.... I have never even been tailgating:( ...I have led a shelterd life:coolman:

[MI2QWK4U]

I am looking forward to going to my first ever event, however I have questions; How does on travel to the event, do you put the miles on the MM or do you trailer it, how long does the event last, a week or just a weekend, are there discounts on hotels, what do I need to bring besides the MM and Plastic? Just a few questions for now....:coolman:

Well, none of these questions can be answered untill you have an official ruling on where and what MVIV will be. Length, location, discounts, hotels, events, etc need to be painstakingly planned out. Its a long process that needs to be addressed if there will be a MVIV. These are cold hard facts that arent up for debate.

[Sully008]

I couldn't attend last year, but the fianceé and I would like to attend something this year. Now whether it's going to be the WDC in Detroit or something in the Southeast, we're going to have to pick one 'cause we'll only be able to afford to go to one of them.

[SID210SA]

Well, none of these questions can be answered untill you have an official ruling on where and what MVIV will be. Length, location, discounts, hotels, events, etc need to be painstakingly planned out. Its a long process that needs to be addressed if there will be a MVIV. These are cold hard facts that arent up for debate.

I guess I was more referring to what people had done the past 3 MV's as opposed to what, when and where for an event that has yet to get off the ground for this year...GO HORNS!!!:coolman:

[MI2QWK4U]

Something will have to get put together pretty quick. I am another one that has to make a summer vacation pic within a couple of weeks. Like Paul mentioned, it was a good thing that we had 90% of MVIII planning done by January of 2005 or it would have never came together. Logan made a comment in one of the threads about MVIV back last October:

If you guys are interested in doing an MV-IV, get a proposal together soon, within the next 30-45 days and send it my way.

Time will haunt you, just never seems there is enough to pull off a stunt like MV!

[MI2QWK4U]

I guess I was more referring to what people had done the past 3 MV's as opposed to what, when and where for an event that has yet to get off the ground for this year...GO HORNS!!!:coolman:


Lots of cool things! MVII in Indy featured a lap on the track at the Brickyard. MVI was at a Fun Ford Weekend in Texas. Last year we held MVIII at the Woodward Dream Cruise, what a party that was. We had a Trilogy open house, tours at Greenfield Village, The Henry Ford, Rouge Plant Tour, Drag racing at Milan dragway, and dinner at Capers. I think each venue had its own flavor and appeal. It will come down to where it is and what kind of cool things the MVIV planners come up with to have fun. Let me tell you, its getting harder and harder to outdue the previous MV, the bar is raised a little bit.

[DEFYANT]

I am w/ Bluerauder. WDC would be great! I think all the MM's last year drove up under their own power. I am considering trailering for no other reason than to keep the miles down. Or, I can drive it less around town and less trips to NY...

MVIV? Name it!

[MI2QWK4U]

I am w/ Bluerauder. WDC would be great! I think all the MM's last year drove up under their own power. I am considering trailering for no other reason than to keep the miles down. Or, I can drive it less around town and less trips to NY...

MVIV? Name it!


Charlie,
Get a trailer, they are cheaper than you think. I kicked it around for a while and finally broke down and got one last fall. If you want, I will post up some info and pics on it. I spent a coupe hundred more than I had to, but got my moneys worth. It will pay for itself in saving miles going to far off events, nittos and race gas going to the dragstrip. And if, God Forbid, if there is car trouble, you are covered. I want to save her miles for cruising around town, preying on unsuspecting chumps, the Marauder is a natural born streat preditor...

[ridinclean]

Charlie,
I want to save her miles for cruising around town, preying on unsuspecting chumps, the Marauder is a natural born streat preditor...

:beer: Well put!!!

[mpearce]

I need to make a decision soon on vacation as well. I love the WDC, but would like to see MVIV somewhere in the central states, possibly even a western state. With faithful people like the Teamropes coming to every MV so far...I think it would only be fair.

If one is scheduled...It would be nice to not have it scheduled the same weekend as the WDC...because MV or not...I plan on attending the WDC this year as well...it will be our 3rd WDC.

-Mat

[jstevens]

I agree. What the heck is going on and where the heck is it going to be.

I thought there were some people with a plan. Where are they now.

[Rider90]

somewhere warm.........and sunny...........

[SergntMac]

I agree. What the heck is going on and where the heck is it going to be. I thought there were some people with a plan. Where are they now. Doesn't need to be a plan, just a location and dates. We'll make it what it is when we get there. The sooner an event is designated, we can plan around that, but keep it simple. Pick a hotel, and leave it alone from there. Let each member make his own arrangements.

We have a promise from Logan for a supercharger raffle, and that could raise some cash for treats, goodie bags, what ever. But, all this planning is unnecessary headache.

We do Barry's Back Yard on just dates and location, likewise Hershey and Gettysburg. We did Dennis' BBQ without a ton of headaches.

Someone pick an anchor event, such as the Southern Heavyweight Shoot out (doesn't have to be) of one of the Fun Ford Weekends somewhere, and we can all make our own plans.

One idea I passed along to others, was a road trip/tour of the Sunshine State. Our largest collection of members reside in Florida, and I love the idea of a ring around Florida, stopping at some famous tracks, maybe Disneyworld too, maybe the Keys, and heading home. Love the car, love to drive it, are we there yet?

Of course, this prolly won't sound very exciting for them, but it's a thought. There's always the Natchez Trace, and my favorite, Gatlinburg TN.

Just my .02C, carry on.

[mpearce]

Someone pick an anchor event, such as the Southern Heavyweight Shoot out (doesn't have to be) of one of the Fun Ford Weekends

A good idea yes...however...events of this size would be chaos trying to organize a track day...if we have track day the same day as these events.

Drag day in Indy was a private deal, and MVIII Milan was private as well. I thought they were great. Both were very cozy. I attended and raced at Indy, and my wife and I helped out everyone in the tower at MVIII Milan. Our own group having fun our way, with just us. I'm sure most members like it that way...I know I do. I could be wrong of course.

This is just my opinion but...I would not want to have to come to a MV event, and have to jockey around for a parking spot during a FFW. I have been to plenty of FFW's at Norwalk...and it's insane.

I suggest that the group that comes forward with ideas, strongly look into logistics of a track day when planning the next annual meet. Some may prefer a huge event, some may prefer a private race day.

-Mat

[Agent M79]

...Natchez Trace...

oooooo:hmmm:

[jimlam56]

Doesn't need to be a plan, just a location and dates. We'll make it what it is when we get there. The sooner an event is designated, we can plan around that, but keep it simple. Pick a hotel, and leave it alone from there. Let each member make his own arrangements.

We have a promise from Logan for a supercharger raffle, and that could raise some cash for treats, goodie bags, what ever. But, all this planning is unnecessary headache.

We do Barry's Back Yard on just dates and location, likewise Hershey and Gettysburg. We did Dennis' BBQ without a ton of headaches.

Someone pick an anchor event, such as the Southern Heavyweight Shoot out (doesn't have to be) of one of the Fun Ford Weekends somewhere, and we can all make our own plans.

One idea I passed along to others, was a road trip/tour of the Sunshine State. Our largest collection of members reside in Florida, and I love the idea of a ring around Florida, stopping at some famous tracks, maybe Disneyworld too, maybe the Keys, and heading home. Love the car, love to drive it, are we there yet?

Of course, this prolly won't sound very exciting for them, but it's a thought. There's always the Natchez Trace, and my favorite, Gatlinburg TN.

Just my .02C, carry on.
Why not work it around the Sebring event fast eddieee brought up a few days ago?
Talk about famous race tracks! I believe the dates are 4/21-22.

[DEFYANT]

Why not work it around the Sebring event fast eddieee brought up a few days ago?
Talk about famous race tracks! I believe the dates are 4/21-22.


You are reading my mind!

I was planning on a new thread.... but since you brought it up..

Lisa and I are very close to commiting to attending. The logistics for us is done and work schedule is ok.

CheeseheadBob is also considering it. The thread was "Drive your mm at 140mph...."

Last MV was drag racing, why not a Ford vehicle event held by SVTOA that includes road racing.

[MI2QWK4U]

Doesn't need to be a plan, just a location and dates. We'll make it what it is when we get there. The sooner an event is designated, we can plan around that, but keep it simple. Pick a hotel, and leave it alone from there. Let each member make his own arrangements.


Well Mac, I RESPECTFULLY disagree. There needs to be a plan. It helps out a bunch. You didnt attend MVIII, so you are not familiar with the level of planning in that event. It makes things so much easier to attend. We heard it over and over at Woodward, maps for every venue, directions, itinerary, details, etc etc. These things werent included in MVI or MVII, but they were not as large of events as MVIII. You knew where folks were at any given time due to planning, so you could join up with the group at will and without much thought. And who is the WE for planning? To many chefs in the kitchen will muck it up. When I talked to Logan a while back, he said the best way is for a small group to set things up and call the shots, preferably a local group familiar with the locations of the event. What you suggest sounds haphazard at best and prone to confusion. I know what I am talking about after heading up the planners of the MV with the most events around the BIGGEST single car event in the world. I am just trying to help, so folks dont run into the headaches we did last year, and that is my own 2 cents.

[DEFYANT]

Dave,

You guys did an outstanding job on MVIII. For a group of guys who were not getting paid, you guys out did yourselves.

There is no doubt there.

I think what Mac is saying is, take the simple approach. Schedule MVIV around a Ford event that has all the planning already done and just show up. A local group can call ahead and try to make some Marauder specific plans.... but I think he has a good idea. Especially since we are into the new year and a major production like MVIII would require lots of time. And time is running out.

Now is when all the big events (FFW, etc) for the 06 season are being planned. As an out of town visitor, I would simply need some help with lodging (ok, I'll say it; Hotels), and other available attractions.

You guys raised the bar in standards and exceeded my expectations. MVIV does not have to meet or beat MVIII.

I am looking for a fun car event where I can meet up with the crowd, and have some Marauder related fun.

[AzMarauder]

I am looking forward to going to my first ever event, however I have questions; How does one travel to the event, do you put the miles on the MM or do you trailer it, how long does the event last, a week or just a weekend, are there discounts on hotels, what do I need to bring besides the MM and Plastic? Just a few questions for now.... I have never even been tailgating:( ...I have led a shelterd life:coolman:

Most folks drove to Woodward... I flew from Arizona. (Left the MM home) It isn't so much the miles ON the car.. but the time it takes to drive there. For me it would be 2 plus days each way... I didn't have the vacation time for that.

[DEFYANT]

One option for us is to ship the MM via Autotrain and fly down. The auto train takes a good 16 hrs. The plane is there in 2.

[CRUZTAKER]

... I didn't have the vacation time for that.

Kevin's house it is! :baaa:

[STLR FN]

Let's just meet at Todd's house, hook up at a local Waffle House and call it a day. :lol: :pancake: :poke:

[martyo]

Let's just meet at Todd's house, hook up at a local Waffle House and call it a day. :lol: :pancake: :poke:

Sign me up!

[SergntMac]

Only Charlie is paying attention here. Before you have a plan, before you appoint committies, hold raffles, or, hand out schedules, you have to have an anchor event. Once done, folks can make additional plans for other stuff and this can include anything y'all want to do. Closed track racing, ball games, museums, hot air balooning and so on. However, the where and when comes first. I can do Sebring.

One more suggestion on it...Vegas, baby!

[jstevens]

Lets go to Todd's

[TooManyFords]

I'm with Mac and Charlie, set a place first.

My choices are:

1. Vegas. I like the drive from Denver on down through Utah. I've driven this route at least 6 times and it gets more beautiful every time. The mountain twisties are just too cool for school. Gambling? OK, since I'm already here and all that... I'm all in.

2. Somewhere in Florida. I've only been to Jacksonville once to see my Hawkeyes play in the Gatorbowl. Cold as hell that day too! But I'd really like to drive to the Keys and a lap around Florida sounds fun.

3. Woodward Avenue Dream Cruise. Whether or not it is MVIV, I'm still coming out this year so I guess this one doesn't count. (hehe)

3.5. Never been the great northeast, New England way and I hear it is very pretty too.

4. Along with nostalgia and scenic places, how about a trip to Salt Lake City to race on the salt flats? I was reminded of this on a trip to Las Vegas a couple years ago with my son.

Is there a point here? Sure is. It's all about the drive getting to the event too which is why I'm pretty sure Nebraska is never going to be a target! (haha) I want the scenery to match the stature of the event. Make it worth my while driving there, meeting and having fun at the event and then finding another scenic way home.

Cheers!

John

[DEFYANT]

Check out this thread:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23877

[CRUZTAKER]

.... not familiar with the level of planning in that event.

I would have to bet that he is. Perhaps not with your plan, as expected, mainly because you didn't involve him. Actually being there had nothing to do with ones knowledge of your 'level of planning'. I was there, yet still have no idea what was involved with some of the 'specialty' treats you folks organized.

Level of planning.....:hmmm:

Level of planning is indeed key only if there is an OBJECTIVE.
We may not have a PLAN at this point, but we do have an OBJECTIVE.

OBJECTIVE: Get as many Marauders and owners to meet in a designated spot, hang out, and socialize. That's easy. We have done that before on several different levels of meets. Booking a hotel is NOT difficult. The extra events are indeed just that. Extra events. We make of that what we can, financially and theoretically. Those EXTRAS are what makes the meet difficult to plan. The extras are merely BONUS'.
Poll, and agree on a location. Same goes for the date.

From the the very first MV-I, to the last local EAM-3, the part of the meet that appealed to EVERYONE, was hanging out together. The 'EXTRAS', were 'BONUS' to keep us busy while not just 'hanging out'.

MV-I was a success because we succeeded in gathering folks together and hanging out. Planning it around a FFW made it easy to coordinate the BONUS. FFW did all the work, we merely invaded, and showed up. Arrangements were needed to book a banquet room onsite. The big BONUS hassle was the raffle, the gifts, the speakers, and such.

MV-II was similar. Put our OBJECTIVE in the middle of someone elses BONUS.
This time we rent a track for the day. Renting a track, particularly during the week, is NOT difficult. I have done it locally.
Again, the raffle, gifts, speakers, and tour to KB was the big BONUS pita to arrange.

MV-III was also similar. It centered around someone elses BONUS. Renting the track was not out of the ordinary. Having places to TOUR locally was a very handy way to keep folks busy duting the day, and required little planning. Hanging out at BK every evening, if one chose to, was handy as well. Obtaining BK for the week, and the big raffles were the BONUS pitas in this case.

The big hassle that all of these events had in common were the logistics of signing folks up, gathering moneys, arranging and paying up front to providers, and the creation of BONUS', hoping to come out even in the end. Several folks like Dave and Logan hung their asses out hoping this logistical nightmare worked out. I am sure this is the part of the gathering that goes above and beyond the OBJECTIVE, and that few people want to be responsible for.
I don't.
And I commend Dave and his associates for doing so at MV-III.

BONUS':

If a table of brave and patient folks cannot be brought together to coordinate the financial logistics of such an event, the BONUS' part won't happen.

That leads to this question:
Are they really neccesary?
I know I would be happy to merely attend a GATHERING. The OBJECTIVE, a large gathering without all the BONUS hoopla. I do not need a raffle to keep me interested. I do not need a banquet with a ton of prizes, trophies, and awards. I do not need a race track enviroment...ouch...that hurts...:P

Perhaps, if all else fails, and we cannot get that special table of folks together again to put up time, money, and ass for such lavish events....we try what we know works. The most basic objective:
Plan a gathering with a date, and location, that coincides either with someone elses BONUS, or a location with lots of things to keep folks busy in smaller groups...and literally INVADE the area. Keep the meet to a shorter time frame perhaps. BONUS arrangements could be kept to a minimum, or none at all. Find a large hotel, book it. Perhaps one with convention facilities to handle a large dinner group. Hang out, socialize, make noise, and go home.:D

Just a thought.

[mpearce]

1. Vegas. I like the drive from Denver on down through Utah. I've driven this route at least 6 times and it gets more beautiful every time. The mountain twisties are just too cool for school. Gambling? OK, since I'm already here and all that... I'm all in.

I would most definitely be up for this. That sounds awesome.

-Mat

[bigslim]

That leads to this question:
Are they really neccesary?
I know I would be happy to merely attend a GATHERING. The OBJECTIVE, a large gathering without all the BONUS hoopla. I do not need a raffle to keep me interested. I do not need a banquet with a ton of prizes, trophies, and awards. I do not need a race track enviroment...ouch...that hurts...:P

Perhaps, if all else fails, and we cannot get that special table of folks together again to put up time, money, and ass for such lavish events....we try what we know works. The most basic objective:
Plan a gathering with a date, and location, that coincides either with someone elses BONUS, or a location with lots of things to keep folks busy in smaller groups...and literally INVADE the area. Keep the meet to a shorter time frame perhaps. BONUS arrangements could be kept to a minimum, or none at all. Find a large hotel, book it. Perhaps one with convention facilities to handle a large dinner group. Hang out, socialize, make noise, and go home.:D

Just a thought.
This is true but the bonuses are what make the "National Meet" special. Anything else is just a meet. I say for the granddaddy of MM events all stops should pull be pulled out and do it in style.

[jstevens]

What, no prizes, trophies, and awards.

I still vote for Todd's house.

[MM03MOK]

Heck, we can make a national 3-day meet out of standing in the parking lot and doing burnouts! It doesn't take much for us to make our own fun! The Bonuses are nice, but they're just that. I love a number of the suggestions...Vegas....Gatlinb urg .....Sebring.....places I've never been before. Branson? I'd love to show off New England too!! In enough time, it can all be done, whether for a national or a regional meet.

I know of at least one proposal in the making. There may be more out there. Get the info to Logan ASAP so vacations can be scheduled.

[Logan]

Only takes one thing to get moving. Someone to step up and take ownership with a reasonable suggestion.

[TooManyFords]

Heck, we can make a national 3-day meet out of standing in the parking lot and doing burnouts! It doesn't take much for us to make our own fun!

WOW! I think Mary just NAILED IT!!

(hugs!)

John

[MI2QWK4U]

Barry, I agree, the objective should be to gather Marauders and people together. That was my desire, but beyond that to created an environment that folks would have a great time socializing, showing off the cars, and generally having the best time possible. All I meant earlier about planning was it is so much more enjoyable when things are laid out for your guests. Like Darryl mentioned above, doing the above and beyond things can put an event over the top. That was what we wanted, the humdinger of all Marauder events in the year. Things like mugs and free pop, our own portapoties (laugh if you must, but we didnt have them at the previous Woodward cruise and that sucked!), maps and itineraries, extra events and tours if desired, etc. While not required, they just make for a nicer time. I just wanted to help out whoever is going to spearhead this event, knowing in advance is so much better than being suprised along the way. Woodward is not a consideration for MVIV, it will be a local low key club event that any Marauder owner anywhere is welcome to attend, and we will do our utmost to make it worth your trip. I will refrain from commenting on MVIV prep, I was just trying to share my experience.

[CRUZTAKER]

.... our own portapoties

Porta-pottys with gaurds and a cleaning crew! :bows:

That was a nice touch.:cool:

[FastMerc]

Well the ball is laying there who is going to pic it up? anyone,anyone:(

[SergntMac]

Sigh...If we were in Vegas right now, we would be sharing space with the adult entertainment convention.

[MikesMerc]

I'll post my 2 cents. Its already been said.

A few folks with the gumption need to use PMs and the telephone to solidify a location with some kind of anchoring event (FFW, IMOA, WDC, etc, etc), flush out the basic details, and contact Logan asap.

If you sit here and wait for group consensus, even on something as simple as location, MVIV will never happen. I know that the MCM guys get criticized for being opinionated and hardheaded (rightfully so most times), but at least we had the nards to step up, submit a plan, and be responsible for the event. No one is asking for MVIV to be as complete and organized and MVIII. Forget trying to raise the bar again if that is what is holding folks back. Just pick a place and anchor event and get moving before its too late. We have plenty of talented responsible folks in this national club.

See Logan's post again. The reins are there for anyone with a good idea to grab. So present a decent idea and grab em!!

[jimlam56]

I'll post my 2 cents. Its already been said.

A few folks with the gumption need to use PMs and the telephone to solidify a location with some kind of anchoring event (FFW, IMOA, WDC, etc, etc), flush out the basic details, and contact Logan asap.

If you sit here and wait for group consensus, even on something as simple as location, MVIV will never happen. I know that the MCM guys get criticized for being opinionated and hardheaded (rightfully so most times), but at least we had the nards to step up, submit a plan, and be responsible for the event. No one is asking for MVIV to be as complete and organized and MVIII. Forget trying to raise the bar again if that is what is holding folks back. Just pick a place and anchor event and get moving before its too late. We have plenty of talented responsible folks in this national club.

See Logan's post again. The reins are there for anyone with a good idea to grab. So present a decent idea and grab em!!
I thought I did. Sebring. (See Defyant's related post.) The only thing we don't know is how much it will cost to get our cars on the track. Even if it's too pricey, the Lodge I found looks like it's got experience hosting car shows. The timing in April in Florida is usually great weather, which will allow you Yanks out there to get a head start on your tan.
Again, if there is interest I will take the lead to contact the Lodge to see about group rates, banquet rooms etc.
Well?

[MikesMerc]

I thought I did. Sebring. (See Defyant's related post.)

Well?

I see the idea being presented....yes. The thread seems to offer up an idea of location and venue....yes. It seems to be asking for member opinion.

But, that's not what my post was suggesting.

What need's to happen is that a small group needs to flush out the basic details and contact Logan for his endorsement. It won't be a Marauderville unless he says so. Logan's backing cannot be an aftethought.

If you wait for consensus before contacting Logan, you'll never have anythign to contact him with. That's all I'm saying.

Please don't misunderstand, I really do appreciate you taking the bull by the horns here.

[jimlam56]

I see the idea being presented....yes. The thread seems to offer up an idea of location and venue....yes. It seems to be asking for member opinion.

But, that's not what my post was suggesting.

What need's to happen is that a small group needs to flush out the basic details and contact Logan for his endorsement. It won't be a Marauderville unless he says so. Logan's backing cannot be an aftethought.

If you wait for consensus before contacting Logan, you'll never have anythign to contact him with. Tht's what I'm saying.
PM sent to Logan, awaiting his reply, per your request

[MikesMerc]

PM sent to Logan, awaiting his reply, per your request


Good luck! I hope it sticks!!!

[DEFYANT]

PM sent to Logan, awaiting his reply, per your request

Please call if I can help.

Check your PMs

[jimlam56]

Please call if I can help.

Check your PMs
Reply sent, thanks.

[SergntMac]

I'll post my 2 cents. Its already been said.

A few folks with the gumption need to use PMs and the telephone to solidify a location with some kind of anchoring event (FFW, IMOA, WDC, etc, etc), flush out the basic details, and contact Logan asap.

If you sit here and wait for group consensus, even on something as simple as location, MVIV will never happen. I know that the MCM guys get criticized for being opinionated and hardheaded (rightfully so most times), but at least we had the nards to step up, submit a plan, and be responsible for the event. No one is asking for MVIV to be as complete and organized and MVIII. Forget trying to raise the bar again if that is what is holding folks back. Just pick a place and anchor event and get moving before its too late. We have plenty of talented responsible folks in this national club. So, what you're saying, Mike, and I know you'lll correct me if I got it wrong, is that it's okay for just a few members (with the 'nads) to decide where our National convention will be held, which in turn settles the when question. Have I got it right?

[CRUZTAKER]

With all due respect to Mike, Woodward/MCM was in the plans and gonna happen anyway. Escalating it to a National meet is where the so called NADS came into play.

The same thing can be pulled off by other local groups as well. I won't begin to suggest the Buckeyes would take it on mainly because OHIO sucks! Who wants to drove 900 miles to be here?

I have watched the southern crews...particularly the Sunshine State group loosly put together some pretty nice gatherings. I have had my fingers crossed hoping THAT group would throw something on the table.

The Atlanta crew is quite tight as well, with experience in quality gatherings. However, I am not sure of how tight they are in the whole MM.NET family thing get together any longer.

The Northeast and CAM crew are quite organized as well.

Either way, I am sure there are plenty of us (individuals) from all areas of this nation willing to put a little personal effort and time into arrangements once a group throws something on the floor as 'done deal'. I know I am willing to help.

BTW: I hear the Sebring offer...but I personally can't make that one, and feel it's a little early in the year as well. So I am pretending not to hear it...:P

[CRUZTAKER]

I love the Las Vegas idea.

The drive alone through the dessert would be something I would remember for a life time. That was what made ENNIS so unique for me. The drive into parts unknown.:cool:

[MM03MOK]

Either way, I am sure there are plenty of us (individuals) from all areas of this nation willing to put a little personal effort and time into arrangements once a group throws something on the floor as 'done deal'. I know I am willing to help.I agree, Bear.

[STLR FN]

Pick a damn place call it MVIV and be done with it. Waiting as other opinions as said and it will never happen. Trying to please everyone is an impossible task. If it's Sebring so be it. Tell us and we'll make our own individual minds up on weathr to attend. This isn't rocket science or brain surgery.

[jimlam56]

Pick a damn place call it MVIV and be done with it. Waiting as other opinions as said and it will never happen. Trying to please everyone is an impossible task. If it's Sebring so be it. Tell us and we'll make our own individual minds up on weathr to attend. This isn't rocket science or brain surgery.
I'm looking forward to help coordinate this event in Sebring.
Jim

[jimlam56]

Kinda surprised we haven't heard from SSM members though...

[MM03MOK]

Kinda surprised we haven't heard from SSM members though...Maybe they have a plan and are submitting it to Logan, as he requested. I do know of a plan that just isn't ready to be given to Logan. There's still time for plans to be submitted since nothing has been announced yet.

[MM03MOK]

OK - here's a plan.....submitted to Logan....

Convoy starting point from the upper Midwest and East: St. Louis. Take the "Low Road" - Rte 44 to Rte 40 and travel on parts of the old Rte 66! What a great way to start another stellar event.


Day 1: Arrivals, Welcome cocktail reception

Day 2:

Morning: Hoover Dam Tour http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/service/index.html (http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/service/index.html) (30 miles southeast of LV)
Afternoon: Lake Mead Cruise http://www.lakemeadcruises.com/desertprincess.html (http://www.lakemeadcruises.com/desertprincess.html)
Evening: Dinner @ Hofbrauhaus Las Vegas http://www.hofbrauhauslasvegas.com/restaurant/index.php?PHPSESSID=abe7a33b0e d276f69dfdd3ff060055b9 (http://www.hofbrauhauslasvegas.com/restaurant/index.php?PHPSESSID=abe7a33b0e d276f69dfdd3ff060055b9)Day 3:

Morning: Sunrise Hot Air Balloon Ride http://www.lasvegasballoonrides.com/ (http://www.lasvegasballoonrides.com/)
Mid-Day: Scenic Drive - Red Rock Canyon http://www.redrockcanyonlv.org/ (http://www.redrockcanyonlv.org/)
Evening: Show on the Strip Day 4:

Drag Racing - Las Vegas Motor Speedway http://www.nascar.com/races/tracks/las/ (http://www.nascar.com/races/tracks/las/)Day 5:

Farewell Breakfast
Additional suggestion/substitution:

Las Vegas Mini Gran Prix - Go Karts! http://www.lvmgp.com/ (http://www.lvmgp.com/)
Derek Daly Performance Driving Academy http://www.derekdaly.com/ (http://www.derekdaly.com/)
Mario Andretti Racing School http://www.andrettiracing.com/ (http://www.andrettiracing.com/)
Bondurant School of High Performance Driving http://www.bondurant.com/pages/home.html (http://www.bondurant.com/pages/home.html)
Grand Canyon West Rim Tour
Cowboy Trail Rides - horseback riding http://www.cowboytrailrides.com/ (http://www.cowboytrailrides.com/)
Atomic Testing Museum http://www.atomictestingmuseum.org/ (http://www.atomictestingmuseum.org/)
Nevada State Railroad Museum http://dmla.clan.lib.nv.us/docs/museums/bouldercity/rr.htm (http://dmla.clan.lib.nv.us/docs/museums/bouldercity/rr.htm)
Shelby American http://www.shelbyamerican.com/index.asp The Sports car museum and tour features the latest version of Shelby American sports vehicles, along with a dozen Cobra cars. Hours: 8 a.m.-5 p.m. Mon-Fri. Tours of the assembly area at 10:30 a.m. or by appointment only at 3:30 p.mLodging: http://www.lvcva.com/finder/lodging/meetings (http://www.lvcva.com/finder/lodging/meetings)

http://www.mardigrasinn.com/ (http://www.mardigrasinn.com/) $65 weekdays; $105 weekends

[CRUZTAKER]

Cha-ching! :rasta:

[STLR FN]

Unless I missed a post or thread but when is it?

[MM03MOK]

Unless I missed a post or thread but when is it?Nothing has been decided.....just ideas being bandied about.

[STLR FN]

Kay, Wife was asking when is it. Piqued my interest.
Nothing has been decided.....just ideas being bandied about.

[DEFYANT]

Ok, we are cookin with gas now! I have been looking for an excuse to go to Vagas. I am not a gambler, but this is all I would need to get my butt going.

Are the Atlanta MM's working on a proposal?

[FastMerc]

Im planning a trip to vegas this year,maybe the dates will work:D YA BABY

[MikesMerc]

So, what you're saying, Mike, and I know you'lll correct me if I got it wrong, is that it's okay for just a few members (with the 'nads) to decide where our National convention will be held, which in turn settles the when question. Have I got it right?

Nope...not even close.

Read it again.

Logan is clearly asking for someone (or a group of someones) to propose a plan to him. As of yet, no one has done this. The content of MVIV has been talked about since before MVIII even happened....and where has it gotten the group so far? Some good ideas have been thrown around, but nothing like any kind of consensus has emerged.

Its all great to post threads getting public opinion. That does need to happen to ensure maximum positive enthusiasm for the event. But, eventually someone has to take the bull by the horns and make the propsal.

Its pretty simple really.

[MikesMerc]

OK - here's a plan.....submitted to Logan....

Convoy starting point from the upper Midwest and East: St. Louis. Take the "Low Road" - Rte 44 to Rte 40 and travel on parts of the old Rte 66! What a great way to start another stellar event.


Day 1: Arrivals, Welcome cocktail reception

Day 2:

Morning: Hoover Dam Tour http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/service/index.html (http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/service/index.html) (30 miles southeast of LV)
Afternoon: Lake Mead Cruise http://www.lakemeadcruises.com/desertprincess.html (http://www.lakemeadcruises.com/desertprincess.html)
Evening: Dinner @ Hofbrauhaus Las Vegas http://www.hofbrauhauslasvegas.com/restaurant/index.php?PHPSESSID=abe7a33b0e d276f69dfdd3ff060055b9 (http://www.hofbrauhauslasvegas.com/restaurant/index.php?PHPSESSID=abe7a33b0e d276f69dfdd3ff060055b9)Day 3:

Morning: Sunrise Hot Air Balloon Ride http://www.lasvegasballoonrides.com/ (http://www.lasvegasballoonrides.com/)
Mid-Day: Scenic Drive - Red Rock Canyon http://www.redrockcanyonlv.org/ (http://www.redrockcanyonlv.org/)
Evening: Show on the Strip Day 4:

Drag Racing - Las Vegas Motor Speedway http://www.nascar.com/races/tracks/las/ (http://www.nascar.com/races/tracks/las/)Day 5:

Farewell Breakfast
Additional suggestion/substitution:

Las Vegas Mini Gran Prix - Go Karts! http://www.lvmgp.com/ (http://www.lvmgp.com/)
Derek Daly Performance Driving Academy http://www.derekdaly.com/ (http://www.derekdaly.com/)
Mario Andretti Racing School http://www.andrettiracing.com/ (http://www.andrettiracing.com/)
Bondurant School of High Performance Driving http://www.bondurant.com/pages/home.html (http://www.bondurant.com/pages/home.html)
Grand Canyon West Rim Tour
Cowboy Trail Rides - horseback riding http://www.cowboytrailrides.com/ (http://www.cowboytrailrides.com/)
Atomic Testing Museum http://www.atomictestingmuseum.org/ (http://www.atomictestingmuseum.org/)
Nevada State Railroad Museum http://dmla.clan.lib.nv.us/docs/museums/bouldercity/rr.htm (http://dmla.clan.lib.nv.us/docs/museums/bouldercity/rr.htm)
Shelby American http://www.shelbyamerican.com/index.asp The Sports car museum and tour features the latest version of Shelby American sports vehicles, along with a dozen Cobra cars. Hours: 8 a.m.-5 p.m. Mon-Fri. Tours of the assembly area at 10:30 a.m. or by appointment only at 3:30 p.mLodging: http://www.lvcva.com/finder/lodging/meetings (http://www.lvcva.com/finder/lodging/meetings)

http://www.mardigrasinn.com/ (http://www.mardigrasinn.com/) $65 weekdays; $105 weekends

Now we're talking:cool4:

[jimlam56]

Nope...not even close.

Read it again.

Logan is clearly asking for someone (or a group of someones) to propose a plan to him. As of yet, no one has done this. The content of MVIV has been talked about since before MVIII even happened....and where has it gotten the group so far? Some good ideas have been thrown around, but nothing like any kind of consensus has emerged.

Its all great to post threads getting public opinion. That does need to happen to ensure maximum positive enthusiasm for the event. But, eventually someone has to take the bull by the horns and make the propsal.

Its pretty simple really.
My Sebring info has been submitted to Logan also.

[DEFYANT]

Thats two.

Any others?

[martyo]

Thats two.

Any others?

Does anyone have any interest in a Northeast based event? Say tied around the Power Tour? If I got in with the Hot Rod folks, it would likely grab us media attention (print and video).

I would like to get a sense of interest before I work something up for Logan.

The biggest negative issue that I can see is that the Northeast does not give us the central located that some desire, although Ennis was far away and I made it and Lost Wages is pretty far away for us Nor'easter guys.

Comments, positive and negative, are welcome.

[MERCMAN]

If LK shows up for MVIV, I am sure it will be a drawing card, no matter where it is :up:

[martyo]

If LK shows up for MVIV, I am sure it will be a drawing card, no matter where it is :up:

The easiest place then is FFW@Atlanta.

A top contender for my vote in terms of ease of participation as I will be at FFW in Atlanta and Bristol. I also plan on showing up at Power Tour with a Fox or LK or both. :D

[DEFYANT]

Very intersting Marty.

Lisa and I were talking about the Power Tour. While I like it, it is really not something those of us with kids can really get into. Lets face it, from thier POV, its a great big car ride. And it gets old for them quick.

I am interested in a N/E event also. I never really followed the national events detailed in the magazines.

What ever and when ever, I like the idea of doing this during the winter months and go to a warm state.

[whoskal]

Originally Posted by MM03MOK
OK - here's a plan.....submitted to Logan....

Convoy starting point from the upper Midwest and East: St. Louis. Take the "Low Road" - Rte 44 to Rte 40 and travel on parts of the old Rte 66! What a great way to start another stellar event.


Day 1: Arrivals, Welcome cocktail reception

Day 2:
Morning: Hoover Dam Tour http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/service/index.html (http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/service/index.html) (30 miles southeast of LV)
Afternoon: Lake Mead Cruise http://www.lakemeadcruises.com/desertprincess.html (http://www.lakemeadcruises.com/desertprincess.html)
Evening: Dinner @ Hofbrauhaus Las Vegas http://www.hofbrauhauslasvegas.com/restaurant/index.php?PHPSESSID=abe7a33b0e d276f69dfdd3ff060055b9 (http://www.hofbrauhauslasvegas.com/restaurant/index.php?PHPSESSID=abe7a33b0e d276f69dfdd3ff060055b9)Day 3:
Morning: Sunrise Hot Air Balloon Ride http://www.lasvegasballoonrides.com/ (http://www.lasvegasballoonrides.com/)
Mid-Day: Scenic Drive - Red Rock Canyon http://www.redrockcanyonlv.org/ (http://www.redrockcanyonlv.org/)
Evening: Show on the Strip Day 4:
Drag Racing - Las Vegas Motor Speedway http://www.nascar.com/races/tracks/las/ (http://www.nascar.com/races/tracks/las/)Day 5:
Farewell BreakfastAdditional suggestion/substitution:
Las Vegas Mini Gran Prix - Go Karts! http://www.lvmgp.com/ (http://www.lvmgp.com/)
Derek Daly Performance Driving Academy http://www.derekdaly.com/ (http://www.derekdaly.com/)
Mario Andretti Racing School http://www.andrettiracing.com/ (http://www.andrettiracing.com/)
Bondurant School of High Performance Driving http://www.bondurant.com/pages/home.html (http://www.bondurant.com/pages/home.html)
Grand Canyon West Rim Tour
Cowboy Trail Rides - horseback riding http://www.cowboytrailrides.com/ (http://www.cowboytrailrides.com/)
Atomic Testing Museum http://www.atomictestingmuseum.org/ (http://www.atomictestingmuseum.org/)
Nevada State Railroad Museum http://dmla.clan.lib.nv.us/docs/museums/bouldercity/rr.htm (http://dmla.clan.lib.nv.us/docs/museums/bouldercity/rr.htm)
Shelby American http://www.shelbyamerican.com/index.asp The Sports car museum and tour features the latest version of Shelby American sports vehicles, along with a dozen Cobra cars. Hours: 8 a.m.-5 p.m. Mon-Fri. Tours of the assembly area at 10:30 a.m. or by appointment only at 3:30 p.mLodging: http://www.lvcva.com/finder/lodging/meetings (http://www.lvcva.com/finder/lodging/meetings)

http://www.mardigrasinn.com/ (http://www.mardigrasinn.com/) $65 weekdays; $105 weekends


This one has my vote!!!!

[Cobra25]

My Sebring info has been submitted to Logan also. Did we have a group meeting that I don't know of that agreed to that, or are you going to be running MarauderVille 4 on your own?

[jimlam56]

Did we have a group meeting that I don't know of that agreed to that, or are you going to be running MarauderVille 4 on your own?
Are you volunteering to help?
Didn't know I had to run it by you, especially after the PMs we just exchanged. Shall I quote them for the group?

[Cobra25]

Are you volunteering to help?
Didn't know I had to run it by you, especially after the PMs we just exchanged. Shall I quote them for the group? YOu can quote anything you want. It's the truth. Their are 75 other members of the group and we all have the right to know whats going on . You do not have the right to speak for the group , you speak for your self. If you don't like it too bad.

[MERCMAN]

hey guys! why don't you all try to meet in chat and settle this among you rather than slamming each other out here in public? Just a suggestion, but it might make things easier than posting here and using PM's. Dissention on the board will NOT help your chances at being a host for MVIV

Carry on

[jimlam56]

YOu can quote anything you want. It's the truth. Their are 75 other members of the group and we all have the right to know whats going on . You do not have the right to speak for the group , you speak for your self. If you don't like it too bad.
When did I speak for the "group"?
Everything I've suggested has been posted.
There has been little input from anyone else from the ssm.
When I asked to become a member of ssm, I was not aware there was a spokesman. Are you the one?
I am not trying to start p-ing match. The event is going on whether MM.net members decide to attend or not.
I really am blindsided by this attack to be honest with you.

[TooManyFords]

The easiest place then is FFW@Atlanta.

A top contender for my vote in terms of ease of participation as I will be at FFW in Atlanta and Bristol. I also plan on showing up at Power Tour with a Fox or LK or both. :D

The power tour sounds awesome as well. In fact, I'll go out on a limb here and volunteer to "take one for the team" and drive LK for you as your backup driver. Really, what are friends for?
:)

But seriously, I think everyone that -can- put together a plan, -should- do so. I have a strong feeling that even if all the plans could come together as a target for MVIV, that the ones that do not would still go off without a hitch and many MM's would show due to proximity of membership.

In other words, we should plan a lot of mini-meets and then as they turn ingo reality we throw them in the hat to vote on which one becomes MVIV.

I know I'd like to make more than one event this year...

John

[Redster]

I like it. Be sure to spend a night in Flagstaff at Little America (hotel). Get enough folks we might get a rate break. You could also do a side trip to the Grand Canyon. Also, there must be some sort of cruise night on the Strip.

[Redster]

Check out www.lasvegascarshows.com for crusin info. Here is an example

Super Run 2006, a classic car experience, will be held September 21-24, 2006. This automotive event is Open to all Years, Makes & Models of Classic Vehicles: Cars, Trucks, Motorcycles and Special Interest Vehicles including Vintage, Classics, Street, Hot Rods, Muscle Cars, Street Rods, Competition Vehicles and Customs. Super Run 2006 will be held in Downtown Henderson with cruise lanes on Water Street, just down the road from Las Vegas.

Car Show Participants receive an Event T-shirt, Commemorative Dash Plaques, Event Ball Cap, Vehicle Credentials, a Goody Bag, Valuable Coupons, Participation in All automotive activities and Preferred Parking to have their vehicles displayed in the Show & Shine Competition. There will be a Cars & Parts Corral held in conjunction with the Super Run event.

Traditionally there is a Kick-Off Welcoming Party on the first day with a Show & Shine with Participant's Vehicles on display. This year, The District at Green Valley Ranch was the Kick-Off Site. There's Entertainment and the Public is invited to join in on the festivities.

There are Poker Walks through the local businesses where there are Trivia Questions with Prizes for the most correct answers and the Best Poker Hand. Some of the events include the Slow Drags Competition, Burn-Out Contests, Roaring Engines Competition, Fan Belt Flips, and Lifter Tosses. There are drawings for Fantabulous Prizes, Cruises of Classic Vehicles, Music and Entertainment. As always, Super Run 2006 Car Show and all Entertainment is Free to Spectators of All Ages and is Open to the Public.

[Cobra25]

When did I speak for the "group"?
Everything I've suggested has been posted.
There has been little input from anyone else from the ssm.
When I asked to become a member of ssm, I was not aware there was a spokesman. Are you the one?
I am not trying to start p-ing match. The event is going on whether MM.net members decide to attend or not.
I really am blindsided by this attack to be honest with you. Bottom line: You suggested and sent a set of Plan's to Logan. One question, if Logan approve's your plans it who is going run it?

[MM03MOK]

Bottom line: You suggested and sent a set of Plan's to Logan. One question, if Logan approve's your plans it who is going run it?It's just a suggestion, just like my Las Vegas suggestion. No one from LV aided in the itinerary I wrote. But I know a number of people will step up to the plate when a decision is made, regardless of where. If you have another Florida suggestion, all the better. More to choose from. No one said only one submission per state. Let's work together, not against each other, please? I hope we're not trying to alienate a new member because, at the urging of others, he stepped forward. The last thing Logan needs/wants to see is bickering about possible choices.

I think we're all getting anxious because we haven't heard anything and some need to put in for vacations. Get all your ideas to Logan ASAP so he can make a decision.

[DEFYANT]

Mary made some good points.

If Logan picks the Sebring event, I'll do what I can to help Jimlam56 out.

In fact, I'd do that for anyone anywhere.