Torque Convertor?

[BLACK THUNDER]

Just looking for some feedback on the TORQUE CONVERTER that DENNIS is offering for the MARAUDER and if you recommened?????

THANK'S

[TooManyFords]

Absolutely, positively, YES!

I have a PI Stallion 3500 stall and would never give it back.

Cheers!

John

[valleyman]

What he^^^^^^^ said. I also have the 4.10 rear end. Not only would I not give it back, I'll fight with you if you try to take it!:bandit:

[Tallboy]

My opinion differs.

I hate the 3000 or 3500 rpm torque converters. I think it ruins the driveability of the car around town and at slow speeds. The car is "always in the revs" when pulling away from stoplights, etc. One car imparticular [few people have driven as many different Marauders as I have] had headers on it and the ensuing exhaust drone made me nuts.

However...

There is no question of the performance increase in 1/4 mle times. Plus, a talented tuner can clean up 90% of the bothersome operation. Drive a similarly epuipped car first, if possible. This is purely a matter of prefence. But, I like my car to dive like a "Grand Marquis" when I want it to.

If you gave me a Marauder with a 3000 or 3500 stall converter, I wouldn't even drive it to the tranny shop to have the OEM one put back in.

I'd have it towed.

[Rider90]

We have a 3500 stall in our Turbo-350 trans that is connected to our 69 502 Chevelle. I can't stand driving it around town, it isn't fun anymore unless you're cranking the high RPMS or going wide-open. It isn't cool to rev near 3 grand just to get away from the stoplight when you aren't even playing around.

[FordNut]

I have the same kind of converter but it's a 2800 stall. I like it very well.

[juno]

I haven't gotten one yet, but I was leaning towards 2800 tops. Once I add power the stall will increase. Now you guys got me thinking of maybe a 2500 stall.

[SergntMac]

So, it's a Stallion - No Stallion thread, eh? Okay...

I like mine. 3500 stall, Torque conversion of 2:53.1 over OEM efficiency of 1:93.1 and lighter too, about 40 pounds less in parasitic powertrain drag, 9" vs. 11.25", and a free stall adjustment/inspection for two years after purchase.

I have no disappointments in city driving. OTOH, I've taken a lot of the slop and roll out of the chassis, and my throttle response is quite crisp. For the money involved, outstanding bang for the buck. However, do your homework first.

http://www.converter.com/stallion.htm

Look to the future and ask yourself what else you'll be adding to the mix. If you are considering a supercharger, style of blower will affect your decision on stall.

While a lot of us have Stallions in place, it's because there wasn't much else to do to build power when we were building. I drove my Stallion triple plate to Detroit for the open house and debut of the Trilogy #1 car, and it's still hard at work today, no problems. That says something too, I wouldn't expect the OEM convertor to deliver this reliability under long term pounding. Just my .02C, carry on...

[Tom Doan]

Had the 3000 PI from Dennis and the 4:10's, changed back to 3:55's and a PI 2200 that worked much better. Have the PI 2200 with 100 miles on it for sale since I've gone in a different direction with the car.

[Glenn]

I have had the PI 3000 TC and 4:10 gears for 1 1/2 years. I had a great tune after the install and the tune corrected 90%+ of any driveability problems. A few remaining issues were then corrected by Jerry W. If you do not have a good tune it will affect driveability. Quite honestly, I cannot tell any real difference from the Stock TC except when I have hard acceleration from a stop then the engine does go to 3,000 rpm. During normal acceleration the engine acts the same as stock. Gas mileage is still the same. But, it does cut at least 1/2 second off your 1/4 mile. Plus you can really burn the tires with the TC.

Glenn

[gonzo50]

Just looking for some feedback on the TORQUE CONVERTER that DENNIS is offering for the MARAUDER and if you recommened?????THANK'S


Absolutely, positively, YES!
I have a PI Stallion 3500 stall and would never give it back.
Cheers!John
I have to echo the same, I have the 3000 stall PI and I love it. Dennis will hook you up the right way, he did mine and I'm totally satisfied with it.:2thumbs:

[stevengerard]

3500, 4:10s and blown - I like it, it's a different feeling than my 3000 on a 25 year old big block behind only a 3 speed.

[CRUZTAKER]

I have the 3000 PI as well.

Around town driving isn't so bad I want to kill myself or anything....Lidio tweaked it nicely and it is very reasonable at this point.

This mod was the most noticable performance wise for me.

I wouldn't change a thing.;)

[MarauderTJA]

There is no question of the performance increase in 1/4 mle times. Plus, a talented tuner can clean up 90% of the bothersome operation.


Chuck has his opinion which I respect for his car and likes. And he is right, tranmission adjustments via the computer can radically change how a torque convertor and transmission drives/shifts on the street. My transmission and 3000 stall Stallion is calibrated for aggressive street driving which I personally find totally acceptable and not bothersome at all. And with a 2 minute tune via my Predator I can set it up for drag racing. The best of both worlds, via Scott Beer of Diablosport. I LOVE my converter and couldn't imagine MY car without one. If I want total comfort, I drive my wifes Lincoln LS. But I get bored rather quickly with "regular transmissions." But thats me.

BTW, I bought mine from DR and he installed my Stallion without any problems.

[HwyCruiser]

I have had a 3000 stall single plate for about 1-1/2 yrs now and find it quite streetable. Quite a bit of the quirkiness of a loose converter can be tamed with a good tune, but due to the nature of this beast you'll definitely feel when it locks and unlocks. It's where the converter is left unlocked all the time below xx mph is when it becomes unbearable.

With the proper tune, the kick in the pants performance gains a torque converter just comes with a little "character" to it, sorta like a shift-kit will.

[RF Overlord]

I haven't gotten one yet, but I was leaning towards 2800 tops. Now you guys got me thinking of maybe a 2500 stall.juno, the factory service manual lists the stall speed for the stock torque converter as 2,555 to 3,011 so it seems that installing an aftermarket converter with less than 3,000 stall would be kinda pointless. ;)

[HwyCruiser]

I don't know if it is so much a function of the stall speed but the higher torque multiplication that the Stallion has over the stock tc. A higher stall will just let you "enjoy" that higher multiplication for a split second longer, giving a few hundredths lower 60' time from a 3500 rpm stall over a 3000 rpm stall.

[juno]

juno, the factory service manual lists the stall speed for the stock torque converter as 2,555 to 3,011 so it seems that installing an aftermarket converter with less than 3,000 stall would be kinda pointless. ;)

Really?
Mine behaves much more like it is around 1800.

[SergntMac]

Indeed, the TC can be fine tuned to behave itself. I prefer a solid lock up after the 2-3 shift that Jerry created for me back in 2002. It's easy on the gas in city driving and lets me drive with my big toe. I tried other tuning, and came back to this, to each his own, eh?

[BLACK THUNDER]

HEY thanks' for all the input!!!!!!!!!!!
So I guess 4:10's the converter and a tuner is a pretty good setup for now but the next problem is do I get the tuner from DENNIS or LIDIO????????and will they be able to adjust the tune for the converter?

THANKS

[Blackened300a]

Damn you guys!
I want a convertor but now im split on what to do. My tuner said that all the convertor will do is soften the shifts and he can tune to prevent that, He never said anything about a TC lock-up schedule change.

What to do what to do...

[CRUZTAKER]

. My tuner said that all the convertor will do is soften the shifts .....

He's ****g kidding right?:stupid:

The T/C install unleashed a BEAST.

[Rider90]

He's ****g kidding right?:stupid:

The T/C install unleashed a BEAST.
It will soften part throttle shifts, at WOT you'll mess your pants. That has been my experience with a 3500 stall we have around here. But my experience is with a different transmission too.

[SergntMac]

You can tune it either way, as long as you don't add the J Mod. Once you do that, bi*ch is going to shift just one way and boy does it feel good.