Any Interest? - Aftermarket Subwoofers

[KillJoy]

I am getting ready to start designing a Fiberglass Subwoofer Encloseure that will fit into the Passenger Side Cubbie Hole in the Trunk. In theory, one 12" (or smaller if wanted) subwoofer will be able to fit.

I was wondering if anyone would be interest in one, because after the first is made, others would not be as hard to fabricate.

KillJoy

[ADE 1000]

If you also design one to fit into the drivers side, I'd be interested. One 12" just isn't enough in a car this big.

I have two 12s in a conventional ported box and although they sound great, they take up too much space.

[Vortech347]

I'd be down with that. I'm thinking about doing a setup where I put the amp where the stock one is, and make a box using a 10" sub. One high quality 10" with some good watts going to it would sound nice. I don't think there is enough air space there for a 12" sub?

[KillJoy]

Well, what I am shooting for is a Minamum of 1 cubic foot. 1.25 would be better, but "most" 12" subs will work well in 1 cubic foot. Worst case scenario.....Solo Barics! I had 2 Solo Baric 10s in my Sierra in .44 (wanted .66) and they still slammed!

I will probably be starting this this coming weekend (Jan 28, 2006).

I have the factory CD Changer on the driver's side.. so I won't be making one of those.....unless there is a large damand???

KillJoy

[DEFYANT]

Interesting..

More bass - clean bass would be a good thing. Only problem is - the wiring. I have never had stelar success with car audio upgrades.

I have managed in the past and gotten by, but nothing really "otta this world".

If I start tinkering with the audio, it'd have to be right! Or not at all.

[jawz101]

booyah...mmmbass (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23974)

I'm happy. 2 10" small enclosure Orion's. I've gone the solo baric route in my old Ranger but they were twice as much as other brand small enclosure subs... and I lived about 5 miles from Stillwater Designs (no special deals for me though). I don't think they're anything special. Their amps are decent though.

[SID210SA]

I would be intrested seeing as though I have a box and amp just sitting in a closet...the used to be in my Taurus, but the box takes up too much space...I have two Orion 12's...so sounds great...keep me posted...

[Rider90]

I'm happy with my one 12" JLw7. Two couldn't hurt, but one 12" of THIS subwoofer is very decent.

[BruteForce]

I am interested in something that will fit with both a full size spare & trunk organizer. Not much room in there for another "permanent" fixture.

[magindat]

Well, what I am shooting for is a Minamum of 1 cubic foot. 1.25 would be better, but "most" 12" subs will work well in 1 cubic foot. Worst case scenario.....Solo Barics! I had 2 Solo Baric 10s in my Sierra in .44 (wanted .66) and they still slammed!

I will probably be starting this this coming weekend (Jan 28, 2006).

I have the factory CD Changer on the driver's side.. so I won't be making one of those.....unless there is a large damand???

KillJoy

2x 15" will run in 1-1.25 cu ft if loaded isobaric (face to face). That's enough for our trunk.

[Vortech347]

booyah...mmmbass (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23974)

I'm happy. 2 10" small enclosure Orion's. I've gone the solo baric route in my old Ranger but they were twice as much as other brand small enclosure subs... and I lived about 5 miles from Stillwater Designs (no special deals for me though). I don't think they're anything special. Their amps are decent though.

Excellent work. Very clean! I'll bet that sounds great.

[ggt4]

I would be interested, I currently have one 12W7.

[03MERCMARAUDER]

I would be intrested, I currently have a 12'' infinity just sitting in my closet. letme know when your are ready to take orders

Joe

[Skiordie53]

i may be interestead too. what's the cost going to be?

[KillJoy]

Not sure on cost yet. Gonna see how long it take, how much and of what is used.

JL Stealth Boxes are about $300 loaded w/ a driver. I think that is WAAAAYYYY to much. I would like to think about $125 +/- for a finished enclosure.

I'll just have to figure a price once it is all said and done for.

KillJoy

[Skiordie53]

i would pay that if it would fit my 12" infinity kappa.

[KillJoy]

If that sub is anything like their others, it will work just fine in 1 cubic foot.

KillJoy

[mercmatt]

If you also design one to fit into the drivers side, I'd be interested. One 12" just isn't enough in a car this big.

I have two 12s in a conventional ported box and although they sound great, they take up too much space.

same here. box takes up too much room. not enough room for beer now. ive been looking for options and was thinking about a bazooka but heard they suck. let me know what developes with this.

[KillJoy]

Well all, this project is not dead. However, I do not think I will be able to make and sell these for any reasonable amount of money.

So far, I have five layers of heavy mat and have used 3 cans of resin. Each layer is taking about 1 1/2 to 2 hours to smooth out and lay down. This is going to translate to about $50+ in parts and 8+ hours, and I am not even done yet!

I will keep y'all posted.

KillJoy

[Skiordie53]

killjoy I hope you reconsider I was really looking forward to one of these its exactly what I was looking for

[KillJoy]

I will still consider selling them, but I am not sure of a price. I don't think I would pay what I would end up charging. :(

I will see where everything stands once complete (hopefully this weekend), and see if I can do it.

KillJoy

[03MERCMARAUDER]

How about some pics of your progress so far?

Joe

[KillJoy]

I can get some current pics this evening. I am one of those people who have no during pics because I get so wrapped up, I forget to take them.

KillJoy

[Skiordie53]

KillJoy Did you ever complete the box. I'm quite curious to see how it came out.

[KillJoy]

Sorry guys! I have has some family issue going on for a short bit, but they seem to have finally been resolved.

I have made no further progress on the box. I am hoping to continue working on it today. I need to affix the front (MDF) to the rear (fiberglass).

I will take pics as I go (hopefully)!

KillJoy

[GreekGod]

Send your "beta" sub enclosure box, when tested and proven, to China and have it duplicated by prison labor and State subsidized material. They may even be able to mold it in ABS or some other high quality material. Should be able to get the price down to $30 each. ;) Cerwin Vega or JL subs-that's what I'm talkin' 'bout.





<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD background=images/JLA_LeftMenuBar.jpg></TD><TD width=800>http://mobile.jlaudio.com/images/menus/JLA_ProductMenuBar.jpg <MAP name=tabs><AREA shape=RECT coords=131,85,248,108 href="http://home.jlaudio.com"><AREA shape=RECT coords=412,87,553,107 href="http://marine.jlaudio.com"><AREA shape=CIRCLE coords=69,66,55 href="index.php"><AREA shape=RECT alt="JL Audio Stealthboxes" coords=575,58,646,73 href="products_stealthbox_pages.php? page_id=168"><AREA shape=RECT coords=651,59,727,73 href="products_cleansweep_pages.php? page_id=94"><AREA shape=RECT coords=465,58,569,73 href="products_enclosures_pages.php? page_id=12"><AREA shape=RECT coords=133,59,199,73 href="products_subs_pages.php?page_i d=2"><AREA shape=RECT coords=205,58,270,73 href="products_amps_pages.php?page_i d=10"><AREA shape=RECT coords=275,59,343,72 href="products_components_pages.php? page_id=11"><AREA shape=RECT coords=350,58,459,72 href="products_connections.php?page_ id=53"><AREA shape=RECT target=_blank coords=676,34,751,56 href="http://www.jlgear.com"><AREA shape=RECT coords=577,32,649,54 href="support_pages.php?page_id=126"><AREA shape=RECT coords=476,32,549,54 href="multimedia_pages.php?page_id=1 25"><AREA shape=RECT coords=376,33,447,55 href="gallery_pages.php?page_id=132"><AREA shape=RECT alt="JL Audio Products" coords=275,33,345,56 href="products_pages.php?page_id=134"><AREA shape=RECT alt="JL Audio Home page" coords=173,30,247,55 href="index.php"><AREA shape=RECT coords=654,85,781,108 href="dealerfind.php"></MAP></TD><TD background=images/JLA_RightMenuBar.jpg></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD width=800><!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="maintable" --><TABLE cellPadding=4 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left width=120><!-- THIS IS THE TABLE FOR SUBWOOFER NAVIGATION LEFT SIDE OF SCREEN --><TABLE cellPadding=4 width=120 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=WhiteText bgColor=#2d4472>W7 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_i d=3)</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eeeeee>8W7 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=1)
10W7 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=5)
12W7 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=9)
13W7 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=10 )


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=WhiteText bgColor=#2d4472>W6v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_i d=4)</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eeeeee>10W6v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=6)
12W6v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=4)
13W6v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=18 )


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=WhiteText bgColor=#2d4472>W3v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_i d=5)</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eeeeee>8W3v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=19 )
10W3v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=11 )
12W3v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=12 )
15W3v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=3)


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=WhiteText bgColor=#2d4472>W1v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_i d=7)</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eeeeee>10W1v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=15 )
12W1v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=16 )
13W1v2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=17 )


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=WhiteText bgColor=#2d4472>Specialty (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_i d=6)</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#eeeeee>6W0 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=23 )
8W0 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=22 )
18W3 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=14 )


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=WhiteText bgColor=#2d4472>Discontinued (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_i d=15)</TD></TR><!-- W3v3 menu item <tr> <td bgcolor="#2D4472" class="whiteheadlines">W3v3</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#EEEEEE"> </td> </tr> --><!-- W0 menu item <tr> <td bgcolor="#2D4472" class="whiteheadlines">W0</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#EEEEEE"> </td> </tr> --></TBODY></TABLE>


</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left width=658><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle>http://mobile.jlaudio.com/images/6232.jpg</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=WhiteText vAlign=center align=middle><TD onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor = '#FFC726'" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor = ''" bgColor=#999999>Mounting System (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_i d=8)</TD><TD onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor = '#FFC726'" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor = ''" bgColor=#999999>Reviews (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_i d=9)</TD><TD onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor = '#FFC726'" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor = ''" bgColor=#999999>W7 Technologies (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_i d=3) </TD><TD onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor = '#FFC726'" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor = ''" bgColor=#999999>Recommended Power Chart (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_i d=35)</TD><TD onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor = '#FFC726'" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor = ''" bgColor=#999999>Tutorials (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/support_pages.php?page_id=141)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=center align=middle><TD class=blueHeadline colSpan=2>http://mobile.jlaudio.com/images/5854.jpg</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=left><TD class=blueHeadline align=middle colSpan=2>12W7 DRIVER SPECIFICATIONS </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=1><TBODY><TR vAlign=top align=middle bgColor=#2d4472><TD width="50%"></TD><TD>12W7-3</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle bgColor=#e4e4e4><TD align=right bgColor=#e4e4e4>Free Air Resonance (Fs): </TD><TD>27.2 Hz</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle><TD align=right>Electrical “Q” (Qes): </TD><TD>0.514</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle bgColor=#e4e4e4><TD align=right>Mechanical “Q” (Qms): </TD><TD>7.807</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle><TD align=right>Total Speaker “Q” (Qts): </TD><TD>0.482</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle bgColor=#e4e4e4><TD align=right>Equivalent Compliance (Vas): </TD><TD>2.33 cu. ft. / 66.0 liters</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle><TD align=right>One-Way, Linear Excursion (Xmax)*: </TD><TD>1.15 in. / 29 mm</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle bgColor=#e4e4e4><TD align=right>Reference Efficiency (no): </TD><TD>0.249%</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle><TD align=right>Efficiency (1W/1m)**: </TD><TD>86.2 dB SPL</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle bgColor=#e4e4e4><TD align=right>Effective Piston Area (Sd): </TD><TD>84 sq. in. / 0.0542 sq. m.</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle><TD align=right>DC Resistance (Re): </TD><TD>2.47 ohm</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle bgColor=#e4e4e4><TD align=right>Nominal Impedance (Znom): </TD><TD>3 ohm</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle><TD align=right>Thermal Power Handling (Pt): </TD><TD>750W</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle bgColor=#e4e4e4><TD align=right>Driver Displacement: </TD><TD>0.14 cu. ft. / 4.0 liters</TD><TR vAlign=top align=middle><TD align=right>Net Weight: </TD><TD>45 ibs. / 20.4 kg</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center bgColor=#e4e4e4 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>* Xmax specifications are derived via one-way voice coil overhang method with no correction factors applied.
** Efficiency (1W/1m) is not an accurate indicator of a subwoofer’s output capability and should not be used as a comparison to other subwoofers to determine which one is “louder”.

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[KillJoy]

Sorry for the picture delay. Here are three as the box sits right now. Please don't mind the messieness.

KillJoy

[GreekGod]

It's hard to tell the scale. I'm thinking it is supposed to go next to the spare tire? It looks like the rh photo is in the trunk on the right side panel.

[KillJoy]

Sorry about that.

Yes, the hole is for a 12" Sub. And, yes, it is in the cubby hole on the passenger's side of the car.

Killjoy

[GreekGod]

It's really too crowded on the shelf next to the spare (where the OEM sub is). Your location on the right side of the trunk seems to be the next best location. What kind of mounting depth are you planning? Probably not enough room for a JL W7 but that is probably overkill/over the top for most.

[Skiordie53]

let me know how it comes out, i really wnat one of those.

[KillJoy]

It's really too crowded on the shelf next to the spare (where the OEM sub is). Your location on the right side of the trunk seems to be the next best location. What kind of mounting depth are you planning? Probably not enough room for a JL W7 but that is probably overkill/over the top for most.

If I had to GUESS, I would say that a 12W7 would not fit. That is a monster sub! I am sure that the box depth could be brought out a but to add more depth (going down into the depression in the bottom of the trunk). An man, 45 POUNDS! That is a hugh driver!

KillJoy