Gas Pedal?

[ezratty]

Has anyone ever looked at the Marauder Gas Pedal, mine is weird, One piece - curved it does not pivot like every other modern car i have seen. is everyones like that? and if so why?

[Rider90]

ours are all like that, why? Don't know. Never thought about it nor had a complaint about it's design.

[Mike Poore]

Has anyone ever looked at the Marauder Gas Pedal, mine is weird, One piece - curved it does not pivot like every other modern car i have seen. is everyones like that? and if so why?

Hey, you guys, please fix it, and while you're at it, figure a way to move the damned thing at least an inch to the right. You'll make a lot of folks happy. :D

[ckadiddle]

Curved? Wierd. Never noticed. OK, now I am going to have to look at mine today.

[Vortech347]

I've been thinking about using some Zip-ties as bushings/washers to get some of the play out of the pedal. I did it in my explorer and my dads F-150. In both of them when you had the pedal floored you could go under the hood and still open the throttle body a little more! I'm wondering if these do the same thing.

[Cheeseheadbob]

Hey Mike, you know what they say about guys who have really big feet....They have really big shoes...:D
figure a way to move the damned thing at least an inch to the right. You'll make a lot of folks happy. :D

[ckadiddle]

Has anyone ever looked at the Marauder Gas Pedal, mine is weird, One piece - curved it does not pivot like every other modern car i have seen. is everyones like that? and if so why?

Holy crap, you're right. It's a freaky looking thing. Maybe had to use that funkyazz shape 'cause of the motorized pedal assembly?

[mcb26]

Thanks a lot:rolleyes: , I have to rank that right up there with the guy that noted the steering wheels are at an angle

[Hotrauder]

The gas pedal is curved because one side of the car rides higher than the other.....NO??? So that the pedal covers from ..no that can't be right..maybe that is why he got shot in the foot! You know what they say about big feet...You would have been really really tall...what was the question? Dennis

[Mike Poore]

Hey Mike, you know what they say about guys who have really big feet....They have really big shoes...:D

Hell, I have to wear the boxes! :rofl:

[Ozz]

Sorry, the pedal is never going to move any closer to the tunnel. If anything it will move farther away. I know because I work on carpet for Ford/Lincoln/Mercury.... There are government mandated clearance requirements.... mostly so that duba$$es sunglasses/cell phones/baby bottles/crack pipes don't get wedged between the pedal and carpet.
Remember when the pedals were hinged on the floor? This is a disaster waiting to happen!

I speculate the pedal is curved to better accomdate people of different sizes/seating positions/pedal positions. If it is curved, everyone can find a comfortable position and have a ~flat surface to rest their foot. Not the case if the pedal is flat. There is one decent foot position if the pedal is flat and no more.

In my MM, if I have the pedals all the way down, engine off, and floor the throttle, I can hear the throttle body hit the WOT stop. It makes a metal ping sound.
When I install my thicker winter floor mats, I have to move the adjustable pedals up a bit to get the TB open all the way...

[Vortech347]

The gas pedal in my explorer ripped off the firewall. Good to hear an insiders point of view. Thanks.

[Mike Poore]

Sorry, the pedal is never going to move any closer ......There are government mandated clearance requirements.... mostly so that duba$$es sunglasses/cell phones/baby bottles/crack pipes don't get wedged between the pedal and carpet....

Ozzy that's hilarious. Here we are, a bunch of big fat old guys who bought these barges because they are roomy, and have enough performance to make us smile. The last thing that concerns me is baby bottles and the like, getting wedged between the pedal and the tunnel. My problem is my *^%$#$ big feet, that keep hitting the gas and brake at the same time. It's dangerous as hell, and frankly I wish the folks who are trying to save us from ourselves, would spend a moment thinking about big footed old farts like me crashing into the garage door, .....twice.:mad2:

[Paul T. Casey]

Haven't got to it yet, but it looks like the "Barefoot" gas pedal mod will be a real PITA. Make those headers look easy. :rolleyes:

[fastblackmerc]

Marauderman was working on a bigger / different gas pedal design.... maybe he'll weigh in here.

[Mike Poore]

Marauderman was working on a bigger / different gas pedal design.... maybe he'll weigh in here.

So were Tallboy and Wes, but I suspect they don't have big enough feet(s) for it to be a problem for them.:D

You guys are gonna be pizzed when I do it all by myself, and get rich selling kits to the other FOG's on the net. :rolleyes:

[Cheeseheadbob]

Help, I can't see through the FOG...:D Do you guys have special FOG lights?
the other FOG's on the net. :rolleyes:

[Mike Poore]

Help, I can't see through the FOG...:D Do you guys have special FOG lights?

Um, FOG = Fat Old Guys.

Damned kids. :cowboy:

[Marauderman]

Marauderman was working on a bigger / different gas pedal design.... maybe he'll weigh in here.
My prototype is complete and installed--------Works great....

We put three hole across --first on the top, middle and at the bottom--we only used the middle and bottom row since most of the foot weight is there. I will have pics but not sure if they will show here--has been a problem of my pics being too large..etc... anyway--fastblackmerc should be seeing it tomorrow--he is planning on stoping by at work----

The bottom corners have not yet been trimmed --look at your brake pedal--its trimmed on the corners--shaved if you will--anyway--I will probably go the same route when I get back from Fla. but for now--will take this and show to the Fla folks ---
It is a much better pedal and especially for the ladies with smaller width feet--the measurements and holes are to allow for movement left or right as you choose and then re-set the screws and tighten--and eventually the trimminmg will allow for movement of the brake and gas pedal when using the switch controlling it as well with no problem.


I did not use counter-sink screws for this as yet--they would be for the final product--can be an option so to speak--My design adds quite a bit more--darn thing is about the size of the brake pad width minus maybe half to 3/4 inch--

You can rest your foot against the tranny wall and now still have full control of the beast---wonderful.........Tom

[Mike Poore]

My prototype is complete and installed--------Works great....
You can rest your foot against the tranny wall and now still have full control of the beast---wonderful.........Tom

WAY TO GO, TOM!:woohoo:

Thank you very much. I can't wait to see the photos, and don't mind large files sent to my email address, if you'd care to send me some of the pictures. Any chance you'll be fabricating, and selling the replacement pedal? :)

Good 'ol Tom .....my new best friend.:high5:

[DEFYANT]

Pictures Please. Sounds like a cool mod.

[SergntMac]

Oh my...The F in F O G means fat.

I had the wrong F word in mind...Sorry.

[Mike Poore]

Oh my...The F in F O G means fat.

I had the wrong F word in mind...Sorry.

OH, you mean like in O.F.? :geezer:

Yeah, I'm one of them, too. :rofl:

[Hotrauder]

Both of you FOG's crack me up about every day. Thanks...from another FOG. With big feet. I prefer to consider myself in the latter F catagory, thank you very much. Dennis:high5:

[Marauderman]

WAY TO GO, TOM!:woohoo:

Thank you very much. I can't wait to see the photos, and don't mind large files sent to my email address, if you'd care to send me some of the pictures. Any chance you'll be fabricating, and selling the replacement pedal? :)

Good 'ol Tom .....my new best friend.:high5:
If there is enough interest I can make them available for the members.....

[Zack]

If there is enough interest I can make them available for the members.....

Dont change any factory angles. :rasta:

[Marauderman]

Dont change any factory angles. :rasta:
It's shaped to match the OEM completely..........to clairfy......made template over OEM...used that to form a mild piece of steel plate .--forms to same curvature of the OEM

[Marauderman]

Pictures Please. Sounds like a cool mod.
UPDATE: fastblackmerc stopped by today at work on his way home to Cary,NC--He will post some pics this evening....hope they look well enough for you all to see--refer to my post covering the info and it will make sense when you see the pics--------Tom

[merc6]

I've been thinking about using some Zip-ties as bushings/washers to get some of the play out of the pedal. I did it in my explorer and my dads F-150. In both of them when you had the pedal floored you could go under the hood and still open the throttle body a little more! I'm wondering if these do the same thing.Wasn't there a thread somewhere that discussed moving pedals closer to you corrected this?

[Mike Poore]

Wasn't there a thread somewhere that discussed moving pedals closer to you corrected this?

Nope, it was to move them farther apart. Turns out the brake pedal is too tough to mess with, but the gas pedal has many inches where it can be moved closer to the tunnel, away frome the &*^%$# brake pedal. I've been *****ing about it ever since my first crash into the garage door.:mad2:

My new best friend, Tom, has been working on a fix; now he's ready to publish.:woohoo:

It's been a race between Tallboy/carfixer/Wes, and Zak, ........who, frankly, didn't give a *****. :arcade:

But it's my pal, Tom, who won the prize.

[Marauderman]

My new best friend, Tom, has been working on a fix; now he's ready to publish.:woohoo:

It's been a race between Tallboy/carfixer/Wes, and Zak, ........who, frankly, didn't give a *****. :arcade:

But it's my pal, Tom, who won the prize.
Pics forthcoming by way of my friend and buddy, fastblackmerc---who stopped by my work today with his camera--hold on --and remember to go back to what I described --the pics may be seen as "too big" but it really is not- I let fastblackmerc say his thoughts........he even drove #7 and used the darn thing----!! Tom

[fastblackmerc]

Here are the pics of Marauderman's new improved gas pedal modification. As you can see there are 3 horizontal holes - for adjustment left or right. In the center position there is about 2 1/2" overhang on the left and right side of the stock pedal, making it 5" wider than stock. Is curved to fit the stock pedal perfectly. As you can see there are round-headed machine screws attaching it, but as Marauderman said they will be replaced by countersunk screws. Definately felt better than stock pedal.... seemed to have more control.

[Mike Poore]

Here are the pics of Marauderman's new improved gas pedal modification. As you can see there are 3 horizontal holes - for adjustment left or right. l.

Thanks for the photo(s)

I'm gonna put mine over in the 5th hole. Um, you're gonna clean up the metal cuttings and debris after you install mine, right? :D

[Marauderman]

Thanks for the photo(s)

I'm gonna put mine over in the 5th hole. Um, you're gonna clean up the metal cuttings and debris after you install mine, right? :D
Those items on the floor are grass clippings from my foot..not any metal shavings.......the actual metal piece is "burr" free....

[merc6]

Nope, it was to move them farther apart. Turns out the brake pedal is too tough to mess with, but the gas pedal has many inches where it can be moved closer to the tunnel, away frome the &*^%$# brake pedal. I've been *****ing about it ever since my first crash into the garage door.:mad2:

My new best friend, Tom, has been working on a fix; now he's ready to publish.:woohoo:

It's been a race between Tallboy/carfixer/Wes, and Zak, ........who, frankly, didn't give a *****. :arcade:

But it's my pal, Tom, who won the prize.I was refering to the TB cable and WOT...

[SideshowBob]

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only doofus who has trouble with hitting the gas and brake at the same time, but looking at those pictures I don't see how the issue has been resolved. The gas pedal still looks too darn close to me, and the mention of the new pedal being WIDER than the stock makes it seem counter-productive to me. If I'm wrong, please straighten me out, because I'd really like to fix the problem before I go through a garage door!

[Mike Poore]

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only doofus who has trouble with hitting the gas and brake at the same time, but looking at those pictures I don't see how the issue has been resolved. The gas pedal still looks too darn close to me, and the mention of the new pedal being WIDER than the stock makes it seem counter-productive to me. If I'm wrong, please straighten me out, because I'd really like to fix the problem before I go through a garage door!

That's the prototype. See the marked holes, that aren't drilled, yet? You move the whole works to the right, towards the tunnel, to gain distance from the brake pedal. :)

[fastblackmerc]

There are holes that are drilled already, look at the pics, they are on either side of then screws. You could also drill the other holes giving you more adjustability. I'd like to see if DynoPro's can make an aluminium cover like that.....

[Marauderman]

That's the prototype. See the marked holes, that aren't drilled, yet? You move the whole works to the right, towards the tunnel, to gain distance from the brake pedal. :)
Or it could be made smaller in width with two holes provided...being a prototype, it allows for design playing to obtain the desired end results......consideration has to include the powered movement of the brake/gas pedal combo so that the housing doesn't restrict the pedal from full WOT......the one in the pic allows for full WOT at full bottom position without restriction ......this is just the first one we made..was in a hurry for use with it for Fla. trip...will work on it's final design/s after returning.....Tom

[SideshowBob]

I'm sold! When can I get one?

[Dragcity]

I'll take mine in Titanium, no wider than 3 inches.

[Marauderman]

Now That I'm back from Fla...time to make a final product for all to see--...will get with my shop guy and update all when I'm done...sizes can be cut to your spec......Tom

[pantheroc]

How many of you peeled the right side of the brake pedal back when bringing your foot off the gas? I'm going to have to glue mine back together.

[SideshowBob]

Now That I'm back from Fla...time to make a final product for all to see--...will get with my shop guy and update all when I'm done...sizes can be cut to your spec......Tom

Do we have an update on this yet?

[Marauderman]

Do we have an update on this yet?
I'll check with my guy in the shop and get back..He was going to do do another and complete it as I wanted to keep mine on a bit longer--am so use to it know---then I wll re-cut it for better "looks".

Since it appears to be more interest from the members than I expected, I'll pursue this a with more energy......stay tuned....

[SilverStreak]

Another F.O.G. checking in the the same problem. I've had too many frightfull experiences hitting the brake and gas pedal at the same time.:eek:
I've trained my self to turn my ankle and use the right side of my foot to
apply the brake to avoid hittinig the gas too. PITA for me. I going to the NHTSA site to file a complaint. Maybe if all of us with big feet complain, they'll make Ford change it.:rolleyes::shake: Is the Marauder set up different from the GM and CV's. Also I never have gotten used to the touchy gas pedal.:(

[RF Overlord]

You guys are ALL doofuses...in my 33 years of driving (legally) I have never hit the gas and the brake at the same time. I'm saving that trick for when I'm over 65 and/or wintering in Florida...

[Bluerauder]

You guys are ALL doofuses......
I think the official term is "Doofei" .... and I tend to agree that this is an operator issue. ;)

[Marauderman]

Another F.O.G. checking in the the same problem. I've had too many frightfull experiences hitting the brake and gas pedal at the same time.:eek:
I've trained my self to turn my ankle and use the right side of my foot to
apply the brake to avoid hittinig the gas too. PITA for me. I going to the NHTSA site to file a complaint. Maybe if all of us with big feet complain, they'll make Ford change it.:rolleyes::shake: Is the Marauder set up different from the GM and CV's. Also I never have gotten used to the touchy gas pedal.:(
I gave my shop man some material to start making some pedals--I am gathering some black set crews , reset of course , that will go very nice for the look...I want to make several first and post some pics when complete....stay tuned.....Tom

[Mike Poore]

I gave my shop man some material to start making some pedals--I am gathering some black set crews , reset of course , that will go very nice for the look...I want to make several first and post some pics when complete....stay tuned.....Tom

Remember, Tom, I'm signed up for the first one you sell. :D

Oh, no matter how bad Bob (RF) want's one? Put his request on (way) back-order. :P

Of course, Mary won't let him near the Blackbird anyway.;)

[Svashtar]

Another F.O.G. checking in the the same problem. I've had too many frightfull experiences hitting the brake and gas pedal at the same time.:eek:
I've trained my self to turn my ankle and use the right side of my foot to
apply the brake to avoid hittinig the gas too. PITA for me. I going to the NHTSA site to file a complaint. Maybe if all of us with big feet complain, they'll make Ford change it.:rolleyes::shake: Is the Marauder set up different from the GM and CV's. Also I never have gotten used to the touchy gas pedal.:(

Me too. I have a size 13 foot and have to consciously rotate my foot way over to the left side of the brake pedal. It's a real PITA. You guys with size 6 shoes don't have to worry about it. :D I have almost rear-ended somone because I was braking and accelerating at the same time. Quite a thrill.

I have the dynopro pedals installed and they look great, but will gladly change out the gas for something better. Too bad Dynopro couldn't come up with something, but anything would be safer than the factory.

Norm

[Mike Poore]

:bump: , how we doing Tom? Is mine ready yet?
BTW, I've filed a complaint with the NHTSA

[Hotrauder]

Another F.O.G. checking in the the same problem. I've had too many frightfull experiences hitting the brake and gas pedal at the same time.:eek:
I've trained my self to turn my ankle and use the right side of my foot to
apply the brake to avoid hittinig the gas too. PITA for me. I going to the NHTSA site to file a complaint. Maybe if all of us with big feet complain, they'll make Ford change it.:rolleyes::shake: Is the Marauder set up different from the GM and CV's. Also I never have gotten used to the touchy gas pedal.:(

Any of you FOG's ever own an Audi? Dennis :run: :drive: :rofl: :rofl:

[Dragcity]

Am I the only one who drives with both feet? Left foot for the brake, right foot for the gas. We don't have a clutch pedal to work. Why not use what you got????

I know it's not Standard Operating Procedure, but aren't we used to making things up as we go along???

[Haggis]

Am I the only one who drives with both feet? Left foot for the brake, right foot for the gas. We don't have a clutch pedal to work. Why not use what you got????

I know it's not Standard Operating Procedure, but aren't we used to making things up as we go along???
You want Mike Poore to drive his car with both feet...he can't even chew bubble gum and walk at the same time.

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[RF Overlord]

Maybe Mike should try driving with both feet Flintstone-style...

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[Marauderman]

OK .....Material is in the shop-and I have had my own pedal removed today thats been field (used)tested on my own MM removed and it will be used now
for (mold) making some ..hope to have some more news in about a week....sorry for the delay- but am using spare (shop) time for this project and it takes awhile to save money and determine what true cost is involved
...so thanks for hanging in-----Tom

[BigGuyBigCar]

I did own an Audi (4000, not the infamous 5000) and never had the wrong pedal problem with it, but have now twice tapped the gas again when I meant to have moved over to the brake.

Part of my problem (besides size 12 shoes) is that I was driving a manual trans. The gas pedal position I was used to was much further to the right than it is in the Marauder. In fact, first time I test drove a Marauder, I kept missing the gas pedal entirely by going too far to the right. Adding a gas pedal extension to the right side would solve that problem, but not the other.

[Marauderman]

OK .....Material is in the shop-and I have had my own pedal removed today thats been field (used)tested on my own MM removed and it will be used now
for (mold) making some ..hope to have some more news in about a week....sorry for the delay- but am using spare (shop) time for this project and it takes awhile to save money and determine what true cost is involved
...so thanks for hanging in-----Tom

OK...I have the first ones(actually more than several) done -----all black--and with holes pre-drilled---- now I need to get the screws and bolts and washers--write up the install instructions , which are very important to follow--but easy---and then package it for the needed.........

I plan on putting the first package together for the first one who asked for it--then ship it and have him follow the directions and let us all know what he thinks....so stay tuned-=-gonna stop and get the other stuff ready for its' shipment this week--

[dwasson]

One piece - curved it does not pivot like every other modern car i have seen.

I've never really thought of the panthers as modern cars.

[dwasson]

Am I the only one who drives with both feet? Left foot for the brake, right foot for the gas. We don't have a clutch pedal to work. Why not use what you got????

I know it's not Standard Operating Procedure, but aren't we used to making things up as we go along???

You're the guy in front of me on the interstate with the brake light constantly flashing.

[Mike Poore]

OK...I have the first ones(actually more than several) done -----all black--and with holes pre-drilled---- now I need to get the screws and bolts and washers--write up the install instructions , which are very important to follow--but easy---and then package it for the needed.........

I plan on putting the first package together for the first one who asked for it--then ship it and have him follow the directions and let us all know what he thinks....so stay tuned-=-gonna stop and get the other stuff ready for its' shipment this week--

:woohoo: Thanks, Tom. I'll be watching for it in the mail.
I just got an email from a fellow wanting to buy my MM.
If the pedal mod fixes the problem, then the MM stays in Fairfield. :)

[Jolly Roger]

Has anyone ever looked at the Marauder Gas Pedal, mine is weird, One piece - curved it does not pivot like every other modern car i have seen. is everyones like that? and if so why?


Anyone who has installed pedal covers knows this.:cool:

[phroe]

Any new info on this new fancy gas pedal. A reck'n uma still need'n me one.

....Anybody?

[the_pack_rat]

I drove with (1) foot the day I took my drivers test.

From the moment the instructor was in the car ... until he was out.

I never drove with only one foot before then ... nor have I done it since. That /\ was the only time I ever did it

In the makings of a potentially bad situation ...

My left foot can be firmy into the brake a lot sooner ... than it takes to remove my right foot from the gas & move it over.

This is one thing I've always felt strongly about.

[kj31067]

Hell, I have to wear the boxes! :rofl:
me too. 15d. i ve heard em all!!!!!!!!!!

[kj31067]

I drove with (1) foot the day I took my drivers test.

From the moment the instructor was in the car ... until he was out.

I never drove with only one foot before then ... nor have I done it since. That /\ was the only time I ever did it

In the makings of a potentially bad situation ...

My left foot can be firmy into the brake a lot sooner ... than it takes to remove my right foot from the gas & move it over.

This is one thing I've always felt strongly about.
did you learn to drive on an early 70 s chrysler product? that would explain the 2 foot driving manuever!!!!

[Marauderman]

Any new info on this new fancy gas pedal. A reck'n uma still need'n me one.

....Anybody?
I got your e-mail--I have them ready --and they work great--a little drill work on your part and phoof--you'll be happy==meanwhile a bit of later paper work for me to do and then they will be ready....thanks......Tom

[Marauderman]

I have pm'ed three members regarding this subject .If you are interested in knwing more and have not received a PM--then PM or e-mail me for more info.

[Mike Poore]

I have pm'ed three members regarding this subject .If you are interested in knwing more and have not received a PM--then PM or e-mail me for more info.

Just got my PM, Tom; the check is in the mail.

You guys need to support Tom on this. He gone to considerable expense and spent countless hours on this project. I hope everyone with a Panther platform car, with adjustable pedals orders one of these from Tom. He's done all of us a great service. :bows:

Especially us BOFG's :cowboy: