Mounting Relocated Oil Filter on non-SCed MMs

[GordonB]

Greetings,
I have the parts and am ready to relocate the oil filters on my 2 MMs. I have read all of the posts and searched all of the threads and have not found a direct soultion so I will try to solicit the opinions her of all who have ALREADY relocated their oil filter on THEIR MM.

Question: I tried for 1 hour last nite to figure out WHERE on the frame rail (Driver's Side of course) to mount the remote oil filter bracket/adapter. Several things seem to be working against me:
1. The Radiator hose and thermostat assembly seems likely to interfere -- too close to the fram rail.
2. I need to get the bracket mounted just slightly forward of the sway bar or else I risk yet another unfortunate mess changing the filter
3. There is a large V-shaped bracket that straddles both sides of the frame rail and holds the ABS Brake valve assembly -- Has anyone tried to use this attachment point as the MIDDLE attaching point for mounting the remote oil filter AS WELL? You still need to use 2 more screws for mounting, but at least this might provide us one.
4. Someone else here has mentioned the fram rail mounting angle of about 30 degrees from vertical -- I can easily see why this is reasonable. You don't want the oil filter hanging down too far and you want to be able to easily attach the 2 hoses to the top of the filter mount/adapter and clear the power steering line as well.
5. I am open to all suggestions for a NON-SCed car. Of course I have to do this for BOTH MMs.

Footnotes about the TransDapt kit -- TRD-1127:
1. Mike P. suggested that I paint the alum. castings to prevent corrosion. I did one set last nite in semi-flat Black. I appreciate the suggestion. I primed them first.
2. I called TransDapt to find out about thier hoses since they are NOT crimped. They use a neoprene hose with internal nylon braiding and a nitrile inner core that is PRESSED onto a brass end fitting. Hose rated to 300 psi and the cennection is rated 100 psi. I would feel better IF there were a continuous pressure band clamp (NOT worm gear clamp) on each end or there were crimped ends. However, after talking to various people who have used TransDapt for other cars & trucks, I am told not to worry about leaks. They Do Not leak in normal, everyday use which is my application.

Thanks,
GordonB

[jimlam56]

Thanks Gordon, I have the exact same questions.
I look forward to educated responses...

[RF Overlord]

...the connection is rated 100 psi.That is the part that bothers me...my oil pressure gauge reads damn close to 100 on cold startups. If their interface is rated to only 100 lbs, that leaves NO safety margin. Personally, on this motor, I would toss their supplied hoses and go to a shop that repairs construction equipment and have them make me a couple of proper hydraulic hoses, the kind with crimped ends.

[GordonB]

RF,
You bring up a good point. I guess I am going to need to consider better hoses. However, Mike P. has run this setup (the AMSOIL version) in his 2002 Ford 150 with a 4.6 engine and never had a leak.
In the meantime, it looks like I will be doing the standard FL-820S filter chnge today instead of trying to relocate the filter.

Others:
Sincerely appreciate you relating your experiences with MOUNTING the remote filter. Pls Post!!!

GordonB

[FordNut]

Others:
Sincerely appreciate you relating your experiences with MOUNTING the remote filter. Pls Post!!!

GordonB
I mounted with only one bolt. The remote mount bracket has 3 holes but I haven't gotten around to drilling the other 2. The one I used was pre-existing, I believe it was the bracket to the ABS pump. As I stated in another post, it is about a 30 degree angle, filter fits between the frame anchor bracket and the sway bar. Stainless barb fittings from Swagelok and stainless hose clamps. The one bolt has been adequate, there have never been any leaks, it has been on over a year and 20k miles, probably 40-50 passes on the drag strip.

And I use Purolator Pure 1 filters and Mobil 1 oil.

[Joe Walsh]

Gordon, In order to mount my remote oil filter bracket on the frame rail I removed the large bracket that is welded on to the frame rail just in front of the sway bar.
I believe that the bracket(s)...there is one on each side of the front frame rails, was used to support the frame as it moved down the assembly line.
I got out my trusty Dremel tool and buzzed it off, leaving a nice flat, open section of the frame rail.
I then marked the bracket mounting holes on the frame and drilled and tapped the thick frame for 1/4-20 ss bolts.
Next I used Aeroquip reuseable JIC fittings and Aeroquip 'Startlite' Hose to connect all the ports.

BTW: If anyone uses "PUSH-ON" hose, the stuff works great, BUT, DO NOT PUT CLAMPS OF ANY KIND ON THE HOSE ENDS!!!
Push-On hose works like a chinese finger trap and putting clamps on the ends guarantees a leak, or worse yet, a blown off hose!
I know, because I work for an Aeroquip distributor and we sell lots of Push-On hose.

[AzMarauder]

I think perhaps we missed the real issue in this thread. He said he was NON-Supercharged... but didn't say which brand of NON-Supercharger he was using. I don't see how we can have a thread with Supercharger mentioned in it and not have some "meaningful" discussion!:rolleyes:

[Mike Poore]

I don't see how we can have a thread with Supercharger mentioned in it and not have some "meaningful" discussion!:rolleyes:

Into the corner with you, buster! :corner:

Gordon, I told you our pal Joe would show up, and save us from ourselves.

Thanks, Joe, we were discussing adding clamps to them, y'know, to make 'em extra strong.

So, what's your assessment of the Aeroquip push on fittings for this application. I started using them on the '97 Cobra, and now on the '02 F-150, as provided with the Amsoil kits. Should we be concerned with the stock Aeroquip hoses they provide with the kit? Is the non-SC Marauder motor gonna push more pressure than my F-150, or the '97 Cobra did? Is it an issue?

Why can't things be simple; or is it that we're just too damned picky? :dunno:

[GordonB]

FordNut,
Thank you for posting your experience using the ABS mounting bolt hole! That's exacting the kind of experience I was hoping someone would report. This looked the most logical to me. Further, we need to shim behind the filter bracket for the other 2 bolts/screws -- maybe double flat SS washers would suffice.

Joe Walsh,
Thank you for reporting how you mounted yours. I will go back under the frame and re-examine the rail. Hoses: I have pretty much concluded that I would use EITHER the supplied hoses in the kit just as they are OR buy new hoses and fittings much like you described from Aeroquip. Appreciate your tip about push on hoses and end fittings -- I will NOT use any hose clamps with these hoses.

Mike Poore,
Yea we are all anal retentive and paranoid. Since I am doing 2 MMs, I really would like to be sure of what I am doing and not have my mods leak or otherwise it . Today I did the conventional STOCK oil filter/oil change again on the Blue MM. Hope it is the last time.

AzMarauder,
I loved your comments about 'which' non-SC setup I was using. Turns out it is the St. Catherine Special -- only made about 18K of them!

Anybody else willing to SHARE thier install experience? Come on now -- Fess Up! I know others have GOOD stories to SHARE!!!

GordonB

[Joe Walsh]

Into the corner with you, buster! :corner:

Gordon, I told you our pal Joe would show up, and save us from ourselves.

Thanks, Joe, we were discussing adding clamps to them, y'know, to make 'em extra strong.

So, what's your assessment of the Aeroquip push on fittings for this application. I started using them on the '97 Cobra, and now on the '02 F-150, as provided with the Amsoil kits. Should we be concerned with the stock Aeroquip hoses they provide with the kit? Is the non-SC Marauder motor gonna push more pressure than my F-150, or the '97 Cobra did? Is it an issue?

Why can't things be simple; or is it that we're just too damned picky? :dunno:

Mike, do you know what kind of Aeroquip hose they supply in the kits?
There should be a model number and an 'AN' -size (probably -08 = 1/2") either printed or embossed on the lay line of the hose.
Aeroquip makes hundreds of types of hoses. I can confirm if it is good for the application.

Yeah, I see lots of 'Push-On' hose with clamps added on to the hose ends.:nono: :nono: :shake:
As I mentioned, Push-On hose works like Chinese finger traps...the harder you pull on the hose (higher pressure), the harder it grabs onto the fitting.

[GordonB]

Come on people, please share your install tips with us that are trying to do this install on NORMALLY aspirated (Fact. Stock) MMs.

Thanks,
GordonB

[FordNut]

Come on people, please share your install tips with us that are trying to do this install on NORMALLY aspirated (Fact. Stock) MMs.

Thanks,
GordonB
Oh, I forgot to mention that my setup was installed while my car was n/a, then the supercharger was installed a few months later with no changes necessary.