Brake rotors for those with deep pockets.

[BK_GrandMarquis]

I saw this company mentioned in a Two Guys Garage at PRI show yesterday.

http://www.reddevilbrakes.com/page/page/1001014.htm

Crown Vic Front 98-02
10 lb
5 oz
$ 1095.00

Crown Vic Rear 98-02
7 lb
11 oz
$ 995.00

Crown Vic, Marauder Front 03-04
9 lb
11 oz
$ 1095.00

Crown Vic, Marauder Rear 03-04
8 lb
3 oz
$ 995.00

I weighed my OEM rotors and they were 22 lbs. for the front and 12 lbs. for the rear.

[Bradley G]

I couldn't dig that deep.
I got the oem size from Baer.
I thought they were a bargain compaired to OEM.
If one was to the point of saving weight, that is big.

[BruteForce]

TITANIUM CERAMIC COATED

mama mia that's some serious price action and they aren't even shiny. :D

[jstevens]

I could think of a lot of things to do with 2K.

[BK_GrandMarquis]

I could think of a lot of things to do with 2K.

Those are individual prices. So all four would be $4,000!!!:eek:

[pantheroc]

deleted my comments....

[Todd TCE]

I can sink my teeth into this one.

Ti rotors arent' "all that". They do weigh far less. But even I suprised the owner of this company recently when discussing the rotors I asked him "where does the heat go if the rotor rejects heat as Ti does?" Taken back a bit by somewhat less interest in weight they back pedaled a bit to admit the pad have to be some very special parts as well as the calipers.....

The problem here is that the heat is not absorbed into the rotor as an iron rotor does. It's pushed back into the caliper. The RD parts ARE VERY nice parts. Top quality looking parts. However they are far more targeted towards the sprint car market where 'stab and turn' is the rule.

I know of a local who put them on a car here and had no choice but to do a caliper and pad change as a result. Personally...I'd pass.

[BK_GrandMarquis]

I can sink my teeth into this one.

Ti rotors arent' "all that". They do weigh far less. But even I suprised the owner of this company recently when discussing the rotors I asked him "where does the heat go if the rotor rejects heat as Ti does?" Taken back a bit by somewhat less interest in weight they back pedaled a bit to admit the pad have to be some very special parts as well as the calipers.....

The problem here is that the heat is not absorbed into the rotor as an iron rotor does. It's pushed back into the caliper. The RD parts ARE VERY nice parts. Top quality looking parts. However they are far more targeted towards the sprint car market where 'stab and turn' is the rule.

I know of a local who put them on a car here and had no choice but to do a caliper and pad change as a result. Personally...I'd pass.

So your saying that they need to be combined with "special" calipers and pads to work properly? Using OEM parts would be unsafe or just wear them down faster?

[Todd TCE]

They'd over heat. Not the rotors, the pads and calipers.

Look at the pads and calipers used on those rotors. They run a special insulated piston and a pad compound to insulate the caliper. I've seen them in use and they ARE very cool parts. For racing. Where you have a huge need for weight reduction. On the MM do you really think you'd notice the weight loss? In racing it comes down to $100 per pound with a car on a diet. How's that compare with these?

I'm a bit shocked they'd put this comment on a web page:
"They are almost half the weight and have 25 % more continuous stopping power." I'd have no problem with the % claim but in no way will changing the rotor material alter the torque of a rotor. The math is based on the OD of the part, piston area and pad Cf only. What they are not telling you is that when you combine those rotors WITH the right caliper AND their pads that you could see more continuous stopping power.

I'd also like to see far more details of the testing specs in those distance tests. A Yukon from 192 to 115ft? A Vette from 125 to 85ft? Even the most extensive tests from guys like Stoptech don't make claims to this extent. 40% reduction? Call me skeptical on this.

[BK_GrandMarquis]

They'd over heat. Not the rotors, the pads and calipers.

Look at the pads and calipers used on those rotors. They run a special insulated piston and a pad compound to insulate the caliper. I've seen them in use and they ARE very cool parts. For racing. Where you have a huge need for weight reduction. On the MM do you really think you'd notice the weight loss? In racing it comes down to $100 per pound with a car on a diet. How's that compare with these?

I'm a bit shocked they'd put this comment on a web page:
"They are almost half the weight and have 25 % more continuous stopping power." I'd have no problem with the % claim but in no way will changing the rotor material alter the torque of a rotor. The math is based on the OD of the part, piston area and pad Cf only. What they are not telling you is that when you combine those rotors WITH the right caliper AND their pads that you could see more continuous stopping power.

I'd also like to see far more details of the testing specs in those distance tests. A Yukon from 192 to 115ft? A Vette from 125 to 85ft? Even the most extensive tests from guys like Stoptech don't make claims to this extent. 40% reduction? Call me skeptical on this.

I was thinking that the shorter stopping distances came from the ceramic coating, not the weight reduction. The weight reduction would help with unsprung weight, which in turn should help with acceleration/deceleration and handling.

[magindat]

They'd over heat. Not the rotors, the pads and calipers.

Not to mention:
Boil your brake fluid - inducing air in the lines.
Softening brake lines - assuming you didn't change to braided.

[BK_GrandMarquis]

Not to mention:
Boil your brake fluid - inducing air in the lines.
Softening brake lines - assuming you didn't change to braided.

I'm using Motul 600 brake fluid and I have stainless braided lines all around. I would be fine.