18X10 Bullitt Wheels...Fit?

[tmac1337]

Looking for input if these 2005+ model wheels will fit the MM without sticking out too far or rubbing, with stock type tires on the front, Nitto Drags on the rears.

Offered from www.mustangtuning.com

Chrome Deep Dish Bullitt Wheels

Front 18X9 36mm offset with 1/4 inch spacers if needed.

Rear 18X10 45mm offset

Bolt pattern 5 X 4.5 inch

http://www.mustangtuning.com/chrome-2005-deep-dish-bullitt-wheels-18x9-18x10.html

I along with a friend are ready to order these. I am still looking to make sure they will fit the Marauder first before doing it.

Input anybody?

[Cobra25]

Looking for input if these 2005+ model wheels will fit the MM without sticking out too far or rubbing, with stock type tires on the front, Nitto Drags on the rears.

Offered from www.mustangtuning.com

Chrome Deep Dish Bullitt Wheels

Front 18X9 36mm offset with 1/2 inch spacers if needed.

Rear 18X10 45mm offset

Bolt pattern 5 X 4.5 inch

http://www.mustangtuning.com/chrome-2005-deep-dish-bullitt-wheels-18x9-18x10.html

I along with a friend are ready to order these. I am still looking to make sure they will fit the Marauder first before doing it.

Input anybody?The 2 spacer's are 1/4 inch aren't they? Not 1/2 inch.

[RoyLPita]

Judging by the pics, they will stick out. Our MM rims are more flat faced.

[Bowman9]

mclemore102 (aka marauder302hp) has 18x9 05-06 bullit style wheels on his Marauder and said he did not need spacers.

You could try calling Mustangtuning's customer service and see if the know anything about the sizing.

Let us know what you find out.

[mclemore102]

My 18x9's have a (+38mm offset with 6.55" backspace) and they fit just fine. You won't need a spacer for the 18x9's but as fot the 18x10 i don't know.

[magindat]

Front 18X9 36mm offset with 1/4 inch spacers if needed.

Rear 18X10 45mm offset

Bolt pattern 5 X 4.5 inch

Stock 18x8+50. Back side space is 150 (6"). Front side space is 50 (2").

How to figure:
25.4mm=1"
Width = 25.4 x inches
BSS = 1/2 width + offset
FSS = 1/2 width - offset
After getting spacings: mm / 25.4 = inches
Compare against stock.
FSS>stock = stick out. FSS<stock = stick in.
BSS>stock = stick in. BSS<stock = stick out.
"Stick in/out" compared to stock lip location.
Ain't math fun?!

18x9+36 BSS = 148.5 FSS = 76.5
This will stick out 26.5mm or about 1 inch further than stock.
The inside lip will be about the same.

18x10+45 BSS = 220 FSS = 75
Back will stick in 70mm or about 3".
Frint will stick out 25mm or about 1"

Add 1/4" spacer = subtract 1/4" or 8mm from BSS and add 8mm to FSS.

I think the back will work great (make sure it will clear the shock). The front will stick out a fair amount by my taste (could make for steering issues?).

Don't forget tires.
Look up tire size at the manufacturer. You need "section width".
(SW - rim width) / 2 = how much side wall to add to FSS or BSS.
Stock:
Front 235/50/16 SW= 9.6"
(9.6-8)/2=.8"
Rear 245/55/18 SW= 9.9"
(9.9-8)/2=.95"

Good Luck

BTW this math works on ANY wheel, any tire, any car.

[Cobra25]

Stock 18x8+50. Back side space is 150 (6"). Front side space is 50 (2").

How to figure:
25.4mm=1"
Width = 25.4 x inches
BSS = 1/2 width + offset
FSS = 1/2 width - offset
After getting spacings: mm / 25.4 = inches
Compare against stock.
FSS>stock = stick out. FSS<stock = stick in.
BSS>stock = stick in. BSS<stock = stick out.
"Stick in/out" compared to stock lip location.
Ain't math fun?!

18x9+36 BSS = 148.5 FSS = 76.5
This will stick out 26.5mm or about 1 inch further than stock.
The inside lip will be about the same.

18x10+45 BSS = 220 FSS = 75
Back will stick in 70mm or about 3".
Frint will stick out 25mm or about 1"

Add 1/4" spacer = subtract 1/4" or 8mm from BSS and add 8mm to FSS.

I think the back will work great (make sure it will clear the shock). The front will stick out a fair amount by my taste (could make for steering issues?).

Don't forget tires.
Look up tire size at the manufacturer. You need "section width".
(SW - rim width) / 2 = how much side wall to add to FSS or BSS.
Stock:
Front 235/50/16 SW= 9.6"
(9.6-8)/2=.8"
Rear 245/55/18 SW= 9.9"
(9.9-8)/2=.95"

Good Luck

BTW this math works on ANY wheel, any tire, any car. Dam, all that math just gave me a head ache. :bricks:

[Cobra25]

mclemore102 (aka marauder302hp) has 18x9 05-06 bullit style wheels on his Marauder and said he did not need spacers.

You could try calling Mustangtuning's customer service and see if the know anything about the sizing.

Let us know what you find out. I quess TMAC should do that. They are very nice looking rim's. I understand why he likes them. The price is good too.

[magindat]

Quote from site:
DEEP DISH IS HERE! Mustang Tuning is proud to present the first Deep Dish Bullitt Wheels for the 2005 Mustang. Since the '05 has a different offset than the previous model year, a brand new mold had to be made to accomplish a Deep Lip wheel. This makes these wheels very unique; so unique that we must sell them as a set to assure you get a complete match for your Mustang. These deep lip wheels look great on the 2005 with the 18x9s in the front and the 18x10s in the rear. Set includes two 1/4" spacers for the front wheels.

Um, if they had to make a new mold, blah blah, blah; why do they have to include a spacer?! Something don't smell right.

[Marauder]

Quote from site:
DEEP DISH IS HERE! Mustang Tuning is proud to present the first Deep Dish Bullitt Wheels for the 2005 Mustang. Since the '05 has a different offset than the previous model year, a brand new mold had to be made to accomplish a Deep Lip wheel. This makes these wheels very unique; so unique that we must sell them as a set to assure you get a complete match for your Mustang. These deep lip wheels look great on the 2005 with the 18x9s in the front and the 18x10s in the rear. Set includes two 1/4" spacers for the front wheels.

Um, if they had to make a new mold, blah blah, blah; why do they have to include a spacer?! Something don't smell right.


Maybe to push the wheels a bit further out for an optional more agressive look. I have 7/32" spacers on my rear rims and they sit nice and snug. :D

[SergntMac]

I did the math a while back and I can say that any wheel made to fit the '05/'06 Mustang will fit our Marauder. In fact, the '06 FRP catalogue offers our Marauder wheel as an option for the '05/'06 Mustang, see page 27, FRP #M-1007-M188P @399. each, FRP centercap. However, I see a problem with the 10" width of the wheel in the rear. Use caution?

I have 9.5" widened Marauder wheels on my #1x with Pirelli 285/45-18 street tires. Shock clearance is very tight. Tight enough that on very hard turns without proper inflation, the tires will brush the dust off the rear shocks, even with Z&M control arms and upgraded Addco sway bar in place.

IMHO, 10" wide wheels will need spacers to clear the suspension, and I do not favor spacers across the board on any automobile driven for sports. Vintage show cars? What the hay...Just my .02c, carry on gents.

[RR|Suki]

18x10" at 45mm offset will be closer to the shock by 20mm... less than an inch... 18x8 widened to 9.5 are 1.5 inches closer to the shock...

the fronts tough... an extra inch outward... that's a bit much no??

[RR|Suki]

Stock 18x8+50. Back side space is 150 (6"). Front side space is 50 (2").

How to figure:
25.4mm=1"
Width = 25.4 x inches
BSS = 1/2 width + offset
FSS = 1/2 width - offset
After getting spacings: mm / 25.4 = inches
Compare against stock.

FSS>stock = stick out. FSS<STOCK ="stick" p in.<>
BSS>stock = stick in. BSS<STOCK ="stick" p out.<> "Stick in/out" compared to stock lip location.
Ain't math fun?!

18x9+36 BSS = 148.5 FSS = 76.5
This will stick out 26.5mm or about 1 inch further than stock.
The inside lip will be about the same.

18x10+45 BSS = 220 FSS = 75
Back will stick in 70mm or about 3".
Frint will stick out 25mm or about 1"

Add 1/4" spacer = subtract 1/4" or 8mm from BSS and add 8mm to FSS.

I think the back will work great (make sure it will clear the shock). The front will stick out a fair amount by my taste (could make for steering issues?).

Don't forget tires.
Look up tire size at the manufacturer. You need "section width".
(SW - rim width) / 2 = how much side wall to add to FSS or BSS.
Stock:
Front 235/50/16 SW= 9.6"
(9.6-8)/2=.8"
Rear 245/55/18 SW= 9.9"
(9.9-8)/2=.95"

Good Luck

BTW this math works on ANY wheel, any tire, any car.

oh and sorry but your math is a bit wrong...

18x10 @ 45mm...

10x25.4 = 254
1/2 = 127 (+45) = 172 = 6.7 inches

stock = (8x25.4/2)+50 = 151.6= 5.968

the difference is really only ~.8 inches to the inside ;)

[Brutus]

oh and sorry but your math is a bit wrong...

18x10 @ 45mm...

10x25.4 = 254
1/2 = 127 (+45) = 172 = 6.7 inches

stock = (8x25.4/2)+50 = 151.6= 5.968

the difference is really only ~.8 inches to the inside ;)

Try the link below and compare until your blue in the face!!


http://www.americanracing.com/techcenter/OffsetCalculator/input.html

[magindat]

oh and sorry but your math is a bit wrong...;)

Thought 3" sounded like a lot. Equations good, math bad.
Uhhh... I was tired.... didn't have my beer yet.... uh... kid complaining.... er excuse.... excuse....

:beatnik:

[magindat]

Try the link below and compare until your blue in the face!!


http://www.americanracing.com/techcenter/OffsetCalculator/input.html

Unfortunatley, the direct link doesn't work. Go to american racing's site and surf to it.

Suki's math is closer. Equations are the same. That little bit of java on AR's site just applies the above equations.

As often as this subject comes up, someone should sticky this. Like maybe in the garage.

[juno]

So, the gist of this is the back should be fine on th inside and stick out how far on the outside? And the fronts will be close? I don't like th idea of a spacer on the front wheel. :eek:

[magindat]

So, the gist of this is the back should be fine on th inside and stick out how far on the outside? And the fronts will be close? I don't like th idea of a spacer on the front wheel. :eek:

Looks like the front will stick out 1 inch more than stock.

I think it will make steering problems. Just a guess, I never put a 9" on MM and I'm used to FWD steering geometry.

I do know it will throw major mud and junk on your paint from your doors to over your hood.

[tmac1337]

Well, it looks like the consensus is thumbs down on these.....too bad.

[juno]

If they made a set of 8's for the front, that would be cool. I have been looking at the backs for track only.

[Big House]

My 18x9's have a (+38mm offset with 6.55" backspace) and they fit just fine. You won't need a spacer for the 18x9's but as fot the 18x10 i don't know.

McLemore,

I am glad to heat you have no issues...I am looking at set of RPM 505 in black mesh and chrome lip. They are too 18 X 9 with a 38mm offset. I was a little worried about the rears but I am settled with my decision. I posted a pic sometime ago but here it is again.

[RR|Suki]

Fronts Fronts Fronts, 1 inch out on the front seems like so much... if any of you guys ever get any 9" wheel with lower than 50 offset, please please please post pics. :D

[Brutus]

Unfortunatley, the direct link doesn't work. Go to american racing's site and surf to it.

Suki's math is closer. Equations are the same. That little bit of java on AR's site just applies the above equations.

As often as this subject comes up, someone should sticky this. Like maybe in the garage.


Link works for me. :dunno:

[SergntMac]

I am looking at set of RPM 505 in black mesh and chrome lip. They are too 18 X 9 with a 38mm offset. I was a little worried about the rears but I am settled with my decision. I posted a pic sometime ago but here it is again. Your numbers are fine to me, I've used this size and offset last year without any problems.

Sadly, the wheel I picked would not fit over my Baer big brake kit, but I don't have that kit on my #3 Marauder.

Again, these numbers work for a Marauder.

[SergntMac]

Well, it looks like the consensus is thumbs down on these.....too bad. Sorry Tim, but I went through this last year. I felt it best to spell it out rather than let you sink some coin into a headache looking for a rest stop. 10" wide wheels...Just hasn't happened for us...Yet.

[Big House]

Your numbers are fine to me, I've used this size and offset last year without any problems.

Sadly, the wheel I picked would not fit over my Baer big brake kit, but I don't have that kit on my #3 Marauder.

Again, these numbers work for a Marauder.

Mac,

You have 3 Marauders...:beer: :beer: :beer: One for each one.

[SergntMac]

Mac,

You have 3 Marauders...:beer: :beer: :beer: One for each one. No, just two at present, but I have owned 3. I use car names.

The first was called "The Girl" because of all the affection she gave me.

My second Marauder was named for me when I bought it, the Kenny Brown #1x. This experimental car (and first Marauder ever to be supercharged) appeared in Car and Driver and Autoweek mags as well as a SpeedChannel episode, before I bought it. This Marauder has quite a history, but very little of it involves me, personally. I'm just keeping the history alive.

My #3, is just that, my third Marauder and my daily driver. Thanks for the cheers, but you can put two of them back. BTW, I'm getting quite affectionate about my #3, a stock silver birch.

[HwyCruiser]

I'm running 9.5" 45mm Konig Beyonds. The 305's are plenty far away from the shocks, but the outside sidewall is really close to the fender lip. Close, but no rubbing. With a 10" 45mm wheel the tire center-line doesn't shift one way or another, so I guess I don't see how they would be an issue with this wheel either.

Granted, I don't drive my car hard other than in a straight line, but driving on them for the past few hundred miles while I send my MM wheels out for widening I should have noticed something by now.

Just my 2 cents.

[tmac1337]

Just committed to buying 2 stock widened MM wheels with Nittos already on em.

Wheel problem solved.........at least for me.

[Yamaha]

Hi Sarg, do you have 9.5's in the front ? I have them in the rear (295 Nittos)and want to move them forward and do 10's in the rear W/O spacers if I can. I agree spacers are NG. Thougts ? Thanks, Stan



I did the math a while back and I can say that any wheel made to fit the '05/'06 Mustang will fit our Marauder. In fact, the '06 FRP catalogue offers our Marauder wheel as an option for the '05/'06 Mustang, see page 27, FRP #M-1007-M188P @399. each, FRP centercap. However, I see a problem with the 10" width of the wheel in the rear. Use caution?

I have 9.5" widened Marauder wheels on my #1x with Pirelli 285/45-18 street tires. Shock clearance is very tight. Tight enough that on very hard turns without proper inflation, the tires will brush the dust off the rear shocks, even with Z&M control arms and upgraded Addco sway bar in place.

IMHO, 10" wide wheels will need spacers to clear the suspension, and I do not favor spacers across the board on any automobile driven for sports. Vintage show cars? What the hay...Just my .02c, carry on gents.

[Marauderman]

9.5's with 295's on back work well--that is my daily set up-=-along with 255's up front on OEM wheels----w/45'all around----now I have the 305 DRs on 18x10 Mustang Bullet wheels '05--they work well with about an inch or twoo outside fender well--looks very tough and nice----no need for spacers---

hope this helps---I'll look for pics I got and post them later if you would like........

[O's Fan Rich]

Hi Sarg, do you have 9.5's in the front ? I have them in the rear (295 Nittos)and want to move them forward and do 10's in the rear W/O spacers if I can. I agree spacers are NG. Thougts ? Thanks, Stan

If you can get Mac to reply.... you're a better man then me!

I do not think he had them up front. Only on the back.

[Grifter]

i'm running 10" rears with +50mm offset and 275 tire and they tuck nicely in the fenderwell. I would bet a 295 still tucks on mine.