Marauder Hood with Scoop(s)

[Zack]

I admire Jerry B. for diving in here but here is the Zack side of the story.
A. The fiberglass hood will be large. Larger than most fiberglass hoods.
B. If I was running a fiberglass hood, I would most certainly eliminate the hood struts in favor of a prop rod. This will avoid the hood from bending when opening or closing and eliminate the possibility of cracking the paint in the process. But, prop rods suck.
C. Our factory hoods are lightweight to begin with.

So, here is what im asking because this very topic has been on my mind for a long time now. Everyone, please use this thread to post as many pictures/links of OEM hoods from any car, pics of aftermarket hood scoops (the kind you mold in) or anything else you might think would look cool on a Marauder Hood.
Maybe after all the pictures/links are in, we can have a poll to see who likes which the best. Photoshoppers, please stand at the ready!
And finally, I will make the hood.
Sound good?

[martyo]

Zack:

Make me this hood. Make it light weight. Make it at a reasonable price -- I am willing to pay to be the first though and you know quality counts and costs.

http://www.legalknevil.com/albums/Miscellaneous-Car-Stuff/aef.jpg

[CRUZTAKER]

Good points made Zack.

But...as a descent middle man here...are you not satisfied with the direction 'what's his name' is going?

I only ask as this (project) is quite the undertaking. Time wise, and money wise.
It seems easier to make these suggestions to the guy that is 'working' for the guy with the deep pockets.

I would have figured that you would have waited to see what became, how it was made, and how it held up before going it on your own.

I have no doubt you aren't capable...I've seen your work...but ones plate can only be so full.;)

[TooManyFords]

I'd still like one of those that was, the first photochopped, with the diagonal scoops. And a big hole in it for the big boy toy!

A soon as someone re-posts the picture I'll chime in and say, "That one!"

John

[TripleTransAm]

Some side points: my WS6's hood is not as large as the MM's but it's still fairly large. It's also not fiberglass but is something really lightweight (I was present at the ASC-ification of my car before being sent back to the plant for shipping and got to hold the hood as it was being fitted). Even being so lightweight, it does NOT bend at all. In fact, last summer I got lazy and went to close the hood by grabbing the latch and bent the latch! (the hood struts are very strong on that car, 8 years and counting and no sign of weakening).

Properly designed (with well engineered underhood bracing), a large Marauder hood in this material would be featherweight yet as strong (or stronger?) than the steel equivalent.
(through the miracle of ass-kissing, I managed to keep the 'temporary' steel hood that my WS6 wore from the factory to the ASC plant - it was meant to be shipped back to the plant for temporary installation on another WS6 and so on - the steel hood can NOT be picked up by one person).

[STLR FN]

I'd still like one of those that was, the first photochopped, with the diagonal scoops. And a big hole in it for the big boy toy!

A soon as someone re-posts the picture I'll chime in and say, "That one!"

John

Is this the one??

[Zack]

Is this the one??


Yeah, that one looks like the winner already.
Where do you find those scoops or entire hood they came from?

[TooManyFords]

Is this the one??

Yep! I just have to get measurments between the scoops to make sure the 6-71 hole doesn't cut into the scoops. I'll call Tim at Supercharger*USA and get an approximate side clearance width from him and see.

Drool!

john

[O's Fan Rich]

Zack, I appreciate your efforts here.
I would like to see this one developed.

[FordNut]

Zack, I appreciate your efforts here.
I would like to see this one developed.
I'd go for something like this, without the center bulge. Basically a cross between Marty's and Rich's pics. A cowl induction type but low and wide with sloping sides instead of vertical and with smooth angles rather than sharp bends.

[STLR FN]

Yeah, that one looks like the winner already.
Where do you find those scoops or entire hood they came from?

Zack it was a PS done on the site a few months ago. I saved it on my comp in the hopes that somone would step up and build aftermarket hoods for us. I see Jerry has done it, are you next? I do believe from the looks at least, that it is a Cervini's Mustang Ram Air hood.

https://www.cervinis.com/product.aspx?car=1&id=1122#101

I too would rather wait and see what the first 10 look like before I would make any commitment on purchasing one. At least these projects are going in the right direction.

I too would also like to see a PS of a Cobra heat extracted hood on a Marauder.

[blackf0rk]

I'd go for something like this, without the center bulge. Basically a cross between Marty's and Rich's pics. A cowl induction type but low and wide with sloping sides instead of vertical and with smooth angles rather than sharp bends.

I agree with this. The cowl on the first one is way too high for the masses - maybe for a drag only car, but definately too high for a vehicle pulling double duty.

The twin ram idea is cool and looks good (the photoshop), but I personally think it looks WAY too aftermarket; kind of like a body kit on a Honda...you know it's not suppose to be there.

FordNut's explanation of his idea I agree with.

[ctrlraven]

Zack, I appreciate your efforts here.
I would like to see this one developed. must have now! :lol:
8682

i would love to see a hood like that or something like the 03-04 cobra heat extract hoods. but the cobra r cowl with single heat extract does give it a lil more muscle and shaply figure. how much and when can i pick it up? :burnout:

[Marauder386]

...A vote here for the true heat extractor style hood...I tend to be really a freak about keeping things cool and down here in the LowCountry, May thru September is "like Africa hot"...

:coolman:

[Zack]

Look here and add comments:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hood-Scoop-LARGE-SINGLE-Universal-Fits-Any-Vehicle_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcate goryZ33646QQitemZ8039122077QQr dZ1

[blackf0rk]

Here's is my contribution to the photoshops...

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9441/marauderhood6lu.gif

And BTW, Zack...what do you intend to do with those Lund Hood Scoops? They're only good for shoveling snow. I'd rather have prostate cancer than put those on my car.

[MarauderMarc]

Yeah, any scoop that requires 2 sided tape and no cutting seems like poo poo. I want function as well as looks. If were pretty much a Mach 1 engine (with a few differences) I think it would be cool to do a shaker setup. Its probably already been talked about, but it would be cool.

[Zack]

Yeah, any scoop that requires 2 sided tape and no cutting seems like poo poo. I want function as well as looks. If were pretty much a Mach 1 engine (with a few differences) I think it would be cool to do a shaker setup. Its probably already been talked about, but it would be cool.

You can install any scoop with 2 sided tape. Do you really think I would do that to MY car?
I would MOLD them in.

[SergntMac]

I too would rather wait and see what the first 10 look like before I would make any commitment on purchasing one. At least these projects are going in the right direction. It's my impression that the fiberglass hood introduced by Trilogy, is a stock spec and appearing hood made of a lighter material. I'm confused, I may be wrong. But IMHO, the only advantage is triming approximately 50 pounds?

[O's Fan Rich]

Here's is my contribution to the photoshops...

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9441/marauderhood6lu.gif

And BTW, Zack...what do you intend to do with those Lund Hood Scoops? They're only good for shoveling snow. I'd rather have prostate cancer than put those on my car.

That's a decent compromise to me. Functional cowl scoop to remove engine bay heat. I'd plunk my bucks down.
But if I have a choice I'd want the one I posted earlier.

[Hotrauder]

I'm with Rich on this. I like the more rounded look. If I install your ZACK hood I will need "ZACKMOBILE" Godshead emblems, too. :D :D Dennis

[gdmjoe]

Zack - Look here and add comments: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hood-Scoop-LARGE-SINGLE-Universal-Fits-Any-Vehicle_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcate goryZ33646QQitemZ8039122077QQr dZ1
http://www.geocities.com/gdmjoe/2thumbsdown.gif

*Cheap -and- ricer looking.

[STLR FN]

It's my impression that the fiberglass hood introduced by Trilogy, is a stock spec and appearing hood made of a lighter material. I'm confused, I may be wrong. But IMHO, the only advantage is triming approximately 50 pounds?

Yeah I know they are stock looking pieces. I'm just saying take a wait and see approach. Jerry has already said if it doesn't pass muster he's not doing it. If all goes well he'll go from there.

[BK_GrandMarquis]

I was hoping for one like this.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=80 55&d=1132934193
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[SergntMac]

I was hoping for one like this.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=80 55&d=1132934193
(http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/[/IMG]http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=80 55&d=1132934193<u)

Ummm...If this design dips into the engine bay from the stock hood specs, it's not going to fit. The clearance is already too tight. Pop you hood and look at the contour and form of the OEM hood liner.

Some of us have already punctured that, from just adding a PHP spacer, or, a JLT induction kit. IMHO, you're going to have to build up the stock design before cutting in the heat reliefs.

Other than this, it's a nice look, and prolly the most effective at addressing engine bay temps.

[O's Fan Rich]

Sarge is right. My PHP spacer added a bit of a dent in my hood liner.

[MarauderMarc]

You can install any scoop with 2 sided tape. Do you really think I would do that to MY car?
I would MOLD them in.

What I was meaning was that if I had a scoop, I would want it to be functional, not cosmetic. I see what you mean now, using that piece to create an aftermarket hood. Dont worry, I give you ALOT more credit than to assume that you would tape it to your car.

[ldadiaz]

I would commit to any of the hoods presented except the first one. Way to tall for an everyday driver.

So if someone is keeping count, put me down for one.

lddiaz

[94_302]

I can't photoshop but what about a Cobra R hood.
http://ocmustang.com/shop/images/M16612R00.jpg
Then a small curvey subtle scoop that blends like on the SRT-8
http://dodge.jbcarpages.com/Charger/2006/Bilder/2006%20Dodge%20Charger%20SRT8% 20Red%20front.jpg

This way you could get a light cowl with a functional scoop. If anyone could photoshop that it would be great.

[fastblackmerc]

Zack, I appreciate your efforts here.
I would like to see this one developed.
That I like.

[Zack]

A lot of people are concerned about heat extraction.
Check out Big Joe P's signature pic.
His fender scoops are functional, and a lot less work.

[O's Fan Rich]

A lot of people are concerned about heat extraction.
Check out Big Joe P's signature pic.
His fender scoops are functional, and a lot less work.

I looked at that too. They do look nice, but not for me.
I like the Buick bullet holes too. Or even the GN side vents.
Considered them all.
I decided not to.

[GreekGod]

How about 8 injection stacks bolted to the stock hood? Me likey: ......

http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/madmax/ChevyImpala/ImpalaAttack.jpg

[Marauder2005]

Is this the one??

This looks like a winner in my book!

[Todd]

That's a decent compromise to me. Functional cowl scoop to remove engine bay heat. I'd plunk my bucks down.
But if I have a choice I'd want the one I posted earlier.


I would take this one as well... Cowl induction works best for what I need. Just a way to get heat out...

[gdmjoe]

SergntMac - Ummm...If this design dips into the engine bay from the stock hood specs, it's not going to fit. The clearance is already too tight. Pop you hood and look at the contour and form of the OEM hood liner.

Some of us have already punctured that, from just adding a PHP spacer, or, a JLT induction kit. IMHO, you're going to have to build up the stock design before cutting in the heat reliefs.

Other than this, it's a nice look, and prolly the most effective at addressing engine bay temps.
Mac ... Agree with what you're saying with the existing photocrop and where the reliefs were positioned.

However, if the Cobra-like vents were moved forward so that the openings were slightly behind the radiator (like the Mustang Cobras), there should be clearance.

In fact, back in Sep2003 Mark Ray (Zeus Automotive - Charlotte, NC) had prototyped that style of hood for the Marauder. The added side-benefit (since it would also fit the Crown Victorias) was that there was/would-be a market to the state highway patrol (given that they often spent a great amount of time idling and would often crack the hood for ventilation/cooling). Alas ... Nothing (as of todate) has materialized.

As for me ..... I vote Cowl.

[kcsd823]

1st post! Most of the hoods look great, can't wait till I can get one. Hope they incorporate some of these ideas.

[Bowman9]

Man oh man, people are posting my photoshop artwork left and right and I don't even get any props.

Here is my original post from October 2005.
It contains my photochop images as well as several links to different hood and scoop manufactures found on the web (Zack you might find them useful to your search).

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21755&highlight=photoshop

[BK_GrandMarquis]

Man oh man, people are posting my photoshop artwork left and right and I don't even get any props.

Here is my original post from October 2005.
It contains my photochop images as well as several links to different hood and scoop manufactures found on the web (Zack you might find them useful to your search).

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21755&highlight=photoshop

Great work Bwoman9!!! We're giving you props by using it all the time.;)
You should get royalties.:)

[O's Fan Rich]

Man oh man, people are posting my photoshop artwork left and right and I don't even get any props.

Here is my original post from October 2005.
It contains my photochop images as well as several links to different hood and scoop manufactures found on the web (Zack you might find them useful to your search).

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21755&highlight=photoshop
I am SO sorry, man. I could not recall who done it.
I personally want to thank you for your fine work and inspiration!
I saved my favorite and have looked at it longingly on my computer dreaming of the day when my fantasy would become realiuty. When the light of hope shone on my bedarkened world, I was amiss and eagerly voiced my opionion with regard for the one who gave me the dream.... I apologize.

Seriously, you did good and thank you.

Now Zack..... the hood please?

[STLR FN]

Man oh man, people are posting my photoshop artwork left and right and I don't even get any props.

Here is my original post from October 2005.
It contains my photochop images as well as several links to different hood and scoop manufactures found on the web (Zack you might find them useful to your search).

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21755&highlight=photoshop

Great Photoshop skills Bowman9. I knew it was from the site, just couldn't remember who did them.

[Bowman9]

I am SO sorry, man. I could not recall who done it.
I personally want to thank you for your fine work and inspiration!
I saved my favorite and have looked at it longingly on my computer dreaming of the day when my fantasy would become realiuty. When the light of hope shone on my bedarkened world, I was amiss and eagerly voiced my opionion with regard for the one who gave me the dream.... I apologize.

Seriously, you did good and thank you.

Now Zack..... the hood please?

This almost sounds like a letter to Penthouse...hahaha...:D
I hope my photochops become reality someday, that would be cool to see.

Your welcome everybody, now go create some hoods!!!

[DEFYANT]

Has anyone looked UNDER the hoodliner to see the underside of the hood? There is "skeleton" under the outer metal that probably will not respond well to being cut.

We could easily get away with a cowl style hood that simply removes the center of the outer sheet metal, attach a fiber glass or steel cowl, do the finish work and paint. The "skeleton" would be unaffected and could support the hood with the prop rods.

That is the simple version.

A redesign of the hood with these cool fancy ideas will be very costly.

[AzMarauder]

Man oh man, people are posting my photoshop artwork left and right and I don't even get any props.

Here is my original post from October 2005.
It contains my photochop images as well as several links to different hood and scoop manufactures found on the web (Zack you might find them useful to your search).

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21755&highlight=photoshop

Just for a bit of playing... can you widen the Cervini Scoops....
Get the outside line on the scoop to match the body line in the hood?

Might make it look smoother..

As it is now coming in from the side.. it is flat hood... a step up for the OEM hood line and a step up again when the scoop is encountered.

Did I make any sense?

:eek:

[MarauderMark]

I to like this as well..
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=86 80&d=1140593498

[O's Fan Rich]

Has anyone looked UNDER the hoodliner to see the underside of the hood? There is "skeleton" under the outer metal that probably will not respond well to being cut.

We could easily get away with a cowl style hood that simply removes the center of the outer sheet metal, attach a fiber glass or steel cowl, do the finish work and paint. The "skeleton" would be unaffected and could support the hood with the prop rods.

That is the simple version.

A redesign of the hood with these cool fancy ideas will be very costly.

I think I could build this myself. It would not be "light weight" but it would be steel..
Ok, it's on my wish list....

[Tyrone Minto]

a crazy notion as long as you are at it.....
incorporate a shock tower brace/support into the hood,
Add a hood pin adapter to the top of each shock tower.
It might add strength in the right place to a lite hood and kill 2 birds.
Could be a recessed type hood lock like the maybe 71 or 72 mustangs??

I like the mid height cowl extraction.

[FordNut]

a crazy notion as long as you are at it.....
incorporate a shock tower brace/support into the hood,
Add a hood pin adapter to the top of each shock tower.
It might add strength in the right place to a lite hood and kill 2 birds.
Could be a recessed type hood lock like the maybe 71 or 72 mustangs??

I like the mid height cowl extraction.
??? Body-on-frame chassis has no shock towers...

[1madmarauder]

personally i like the first one. i hate to say, i really like the look of a 4-6 inch non functional scoop on the impala ss. cant really say id want one, but if i did, id go for a 4" cowl for the mm. a big butt requires big jeans, know what i mean????

[Krytin]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/RSCN0274.jpg

How about one like this - and it IS functional!

By the way this is Impalaowner95's ride - very nice car!

[blackf0rk]

Not to bash those purposfully, but they remind me of the lund hood scoops that everyone and their grandmother is putting on their dodge durango's...looks like caca to me.

[PVan96]

Soooo- Ive been sitting here reading all of these post abouts new hoods..... and.... I WANT ONE!!!!! I like the BIG Cowl, were can I get one?????

[Pat]

PVan96;
Like this? PM James79stang

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/2/4/2/9/hoodwithpinsresized.jpg

[gdmjoe]

PVan96 - Soooo- Ive been sitting here reading all of these post abouts new hoods..... and.... I WANT ONE!!!!! I like the BIG Cowl, were can I get one?????
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_127_full.jpg

Fabricated using a spare hood (any 1998+ Panther will do) and a scoop from eBay®

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_94_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_93_full.jpg

[GreekGod]

Yes!...That's IT!,.... the Camaro/Corvette/G.M.Pro-Stock look!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/../showcase/files/2/1/9/0/camaroprostock.jpg


PVan96;
Like this? PM James79stang

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/2/4/2/9/hoodwithpinsresized.jpg

[OneBADLsE]

Paint looks horrible.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/2/4/2/9/hoodwithpinsresized.jpg

[hot-rauder]

Paint looks horrible.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/2/4/2/9/hoodwithpinsresized.jpg


i believe this is one of the pictures he took before he painted it or before he had wet sanded it an buffed it.

He took pics before it was done.

[hot-rauder]

my favorite marauder.... In person it scares you


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/8/9/7/6/P3_thumb.jpg (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/showimage.php?i=12491&c=3&userid=8976)

[ImpalaSlayer]

no like class glass hood anymore

[whd507]

71-73 Mustang style scoops, but they would need to be spaced apart such as our existing bulge would allow to look correct.

I would prefer wide so the cowl area can somewhat hide the wipers a little.

I would think as wide as the stock "bulge" at the cowl,(but a little taller) stay that width to the front, with the scoops tapering in at the front to meet the existing center bulge bodyline.

[whd507]

https://www.cervinis.com/Files/Image/products/698_1_middle.png

[SC Cheesehead]

https://www.cervinis.com/Files/Image/products/698_1_middle.png

Can't see this on a MM, but maybe somebody could Photoshop to give us a better idea.

[ImpalaSlayer]

Can't see this on a MM, but maybe somebody could Photoshop to give us a better idea.

i agree :concur:

[larryo340]

Me too........somebody shop it !! :D

[PVan96]

Why is there not a company that makes aftermarket hoods for a MARAUDER????????

Seems like there would be a good market for it?

[FordNut]

Why is there not a company that makes aftermarket hoods for a MARAUDER????????

Seems like there would be a good market for it?

There is one.

[Bradley G]

I Like this look
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21755

[SC Cheesehead]

I Like this look
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21755

Bradley, you are the man!

I like that look.

[TAKEDOWN]

That is definitely something I would like, but I'd have to get a S/C first, I want my bark and bite to be mean!

[GreekGod]

We don't need no steen-king hood scoops...

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/../showcase/files/2/1/9/0/MadMaxbBowerHood.jpg

[PVan96]

There is one.


If there is a Aftermarket hood company what is there name, site telephone #??

Any info is greatly appreciated

Thanks

Pat

[FordNut]

As mentioned earlier in this thread (and many other custom hood threads) it's from Class Glass http://www.classglassperformance.com/merc%20cr%20vic.html

[offroadkarter]

Its to bad you cant use the classglass w/o hood pins, it looks way cleaner w/o them.

[sd8683]

Its to bad you cant use the classglass w/o hood pins, it looks way cleaner w/o them.


You don't need hood pins with the classglass hood.

[PVan96]

Hood pins are not required for the Classglass Cowl. Does anyone know if there is a different style of hood avaliable?? I like the cowl, but the other hoods that have been shopped look pretty sweet!!!!!!!!111

[Rocknthehawk]

You don't need hood pins with the classglass hood.

Haha beat me to it...

Mike (kb-marauder-s) has the classglass hood without hoodpins, and didn't need to make a hood prop.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

The only custom hoods I've ever liked on these cars have been the gothvic's, and I'm sorry I should be sure of this because it's a fellow Chitown brotheren, but I believe it was JustBob's hood. I saw his in person the time I stopped by the Champps get together for about a min this summer, looked sweet.

[Aren Jay]

.............................. .......

[Krytin]

It dosen't look good on the Maxima either!
Forward facing fins on the front faired into the a pillars - looks a bit like a shovel and not in a good way!

[Vortech347]

Why in the christ would we put a maxima hood on a ford?

[GreekGod]

Why in the christ would we put a maxima hood on a ford?

Why would anyone put a Chevrolet hood on a Ford?

______________________________ ________

[CanadaMarauder]

Still like the one I did about a year ago with no gills...someone earlier had the same looking one
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/jfriberg/mercurymaruder_hood05.jpg

[sd8683]

Still like the one I did about a year ago with no gills...someone earlier had the same looking one
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/jfriberg/mercurymaruder_hood05.jpg


+1 I don't really like the classglass hood, I mean its nice but it too narrow for my taste. The one in you pic is perfect!

[offroadkarter]

You don't need hood pins with the classglass hood.

I've heard otherwise, that when going down the highway it shakes alot.

I've also heard stories and seen pictures of carbon fiber or fiber glass hoods flipping up at highway speeds.

[offroadkarter]

I had a Nissan Maxima behind me the other day. The new one has a great hood, but I doubt it would look good on a Marauder.




That car us totally disgusting, please leave the internets

[sd8683]

I've heard otherwise, that when going down the highway it shakes alot.

I've also heard stories and seen pictures of carbon fiber or fiber glass hoods flipping up at highway speeds.


Tell that to KB-Marauder-S, I've been in his car going well over 140MPH and there was no hood flipping issues :)

[Rocknthehawk]

I've heard otherwise, that when going down the highway it shakes alot.

I've also heard stories and seen pictures of carbon fiber or fiber glass hoods flipping up at highway speeds.

Ryan you should stop spreading hearsay and only speak with experience.

I've ridden in Mikes car, and there is NO issues with the classglass hood.

(and i'll buddy up with sean) I had him pass me at 140, and the hood looked closed to me ;)

[gdmjoe]

offroadkarter - I've heard otherwise, that when going down the highway it shakes alot.

I've also heard stories and seen pictures of carbon fiber or fiber glass hoods flipping up at highway speeds.
Shermator has no hood pins and seems to do OK. :D

[hot-rauder]

Shermator has no hood pins and seems to do OK. :D

Yeah but he is only driving for 9 seconds!!:banana2: :lol: