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ctrlraven
02-27-2006, 09:02 AM
what mufflers are used on the cobra exhaust for the marauder's? i'm thinking about ordering the kooks headers with exhaust and I already have mufflers that i'd want to put on which are flowmaster dual chamber 40 series and i didn't know if what comes with the system is better.

MarauderMarc
02-27-2006, 09:10 AM
The Kooks and the DR Cobra exhaust both come with the Magnaflow 18" mufflers. I had 14" Magnaflows with my Kooks until last Friday when I swapped them out to Flowmaster Super40s. Do the Flowmasters, the Magnaflows make us sound kinda ricer-ish with the Kooks.

ctrlraven
02-27-2006, 10:29 AM
cool thanks for the input. yeah ive always tried to stay flowmaster for mufflers, now are the cats magnaflow on that exhaust system?

Zack
02-27-2006, 11:26 AM
The cobra exhaust uses the stock mufflers.

O's Fan Rich
02-27-2006, 11:37 AM
The cobra exhaust uses the stock mufflers.
If you wanna....

Zack, do you know what adapter DR uses for the manifold swap at the efgr? Or should I plan on bending it?

RF Overlord
02-27-2006, 12:14 PM
The Kooks and the DR Cobra exhaust both come with the Magnaflow 18" mufflers.I wasn't aware that either system came with ANY mufflers. Mine didn't...(DR Cobra). Is this something new?

Cobra25
02-27-2006, 01:55 PM
The Kooks and the DR Cobra exhaust both come with the Magnaflow 18" mufflers. I had 14" Magnaflows with my Kooks until last Friday when I swapped them out to Flowmaster Super40s. Do the Flowmasters, the Magnaflows make us sound kinda ricer-ish with the Kooks. I can't speak on the Kooks system but The Cobra system from Dennis didn't come with Mufflers when I got it. Something New?

MarauderMarc
02-27-2006, 09:41 PM
Maybe I was mis-informed. I thought I heard it came with 18" magnaflows. My bad. Even better if you dont want them anyways.

ctrlraven
02-27-2006, 11:05 PM
well i looked on the page on DR websites and the KOOKS Complete Long Tube Header with Exhaust comes with Item Details: Complete Systems to Factory Tailpipe:Headers,X Pipe with Cats and Mufflers. NOTE: Picture shows optional Ceramic Coating for additional $300.

I dont know what the High Flow Cobra Exhaust with X-Pipe comes with. I wonder how much it would cost me just to get a custom made header back exhaust with magna flow high flow cats, h-pipe and ill just keep my flows and pick up the megs res delete tips. Anyone have a custom bent system and how much did it cost? So I can get an idea of what it will run me.

STLR FN
02-27-2006, 11:23 PM
well i looked on the page on DR websites and the KOOKS Complete Long Tube Header with Exhaust comes with Item Details: Complete Systems to Factory Tailpipe:Headers,X Pipe with Cats and Mufflers. NOTE: Picture shows optional Ceramic Coating for additional $300.

I dont know what the High Flow Cobra Exhaust with X-Pipe comes with. I wonder how much it would cost me just to get a custom made header back exhaust with magna flow high flow cats, h-pipe and ill just keep my flows and pick up the megs res delete tips. Anyone have a custom bent system and how much did it cost? So I can get an idea of what it will run me.



My custom bent system will cost me $440. That is for no cats, 2.5" tubing with H-pipe and 18" Magnaflows

Dennis Reinhart
02-28-2006, 09:55 AM
what mufflers are used on the cobra exhaust for the marauder's? i'm thinking about ordering the kooks headers with exhaust and I already have mufflers that i'd want to put on which are flowmaster dual chamber 40 series and i didn't know if what comes with the system is better.

My kit adapts to the OEM mufflers

O's Fan Rich
02-28-2006, 09:59 AM
My kit adapts to the OEM mufflers

And from the pictures I've seen, quite nicely too.

magindat
02-28-2006, 10:18 AM
My custom bent system will cost me $440. That is for no cats, 2.5" tubing with H-pipe and 18" Magnaflows

That's about right. I paid $250 for 18" magnas only last year. Went back 2 weeks ago and got the 2nd set cats removed behind 2nd O2 sensor, 2.5" to new 14" mags (he took the 18's back on trade since he recommended the change), stock tails, 2" H-pipe, and res-del tips installed w/1"extension (also left the old tips behind since his helper wanted them). 2nd trip cost me $217 including tax.

It would not break the tires loose from standing start before, but left 2 black streaks in his lot after!

I freakin love the sound. Deep, mean and not at all ricerish (Marc, wait 'till you hear it)! It also has the 'back gurgle' when getting off the throttle. I abso-freakin-lutely love it. There a little drone, but nothing the stereo won't drown out.

Good luck!

ctrlraven
02-28-2006, 11:28 AM
yeah i just wish here in MD i could find a shop that would remove the 2nd set of cats but i guess ill end up just doing it myself. damn motor vehicle admin and their fines!:mad2: how many O2 sensors are on the OEM exhaust system and has anyone used the O2 cheaters?

O's Fan Rich
02-28-2006, 12:33 PM
yeah i just wish here in MD i could find a shop that would remove the 2nd set of cats but i guess ill end up just doing it myself. damn motor vehicle admin and their fines!:mad2: how many O2 sensors are on the OEM exhaust system and has anyone used the O2 cheaters?

That's why you order the DR exhaust and put the car on jackstands and crawl underneath with your wrenches.....
Or drive to PA and get it done. Justa save your original stuff.

ctrlraven
02-28-2006, 12:43 PM
That's why you order the DR exhaust and put the car on jackstands and crawl underneath with your wrenches.....
Or drive to PA and get it done. Justa save your original stuff. I'd like to order the DR exhaust but I don't know what I'm doing as force induction wise s/c or turbo. I'd rather not buy the kooks headers and change them out if I do turbo. I'm pruely trying to do the cheap way for a lil more growl lol. Know of any good shops that are close to 83 cause thats the way I would be coming up unless you know a shop thats right over the line somewhere.:confused:

O's Fan Rich
02-28-2006, 01:10 PM
I'd like to order the DR exhaust but I don't know what I'm doing as force induction wise s/c or turbo. I'd rather not buy the kooks headers and change them out if I do turbo. I'm pruely trying to do the cheap way for a lil more growl lol. Know of any good shops that are close to 83 cause thats the way I would be coming up unless you know a shop thats right over the line somewhere.:confused:

If you wanta come up to Reading, call Claude at Mervine's in Shillington at 610-777-1631.
He's doing mine on 3/21....

ctrlraven
03-10-2006, 03:17 PM
What all is included with the High Flow Cobra Exhaust with X-Pipe? It is just cats, x-pipe and the rest of the bent tubing minus mufflers and tips? Also does it connect to the stock manifolds are or is new tubing needed from the header to connect to the exhaust kit? I know I'm kind of asking the same question twice but I didn't get a clear answer before and I'd rather limit the amount of custom stuff I need to get done and have more of a plug-n-play setup.

Hotrauder
03-10-2006, 06:10 PM
DR's kit includes Cobra ceramic coated manifolds, pipes w/one highflo Magnaflow cat on each side to the included X pipe and pipes back to within 6 inches or so of your muffler. The clamp on adapter may be included. DR installed mine to my mufflers and I am not sure if the adapter was included in the kit or part of the install charge. the system is a very effective power adder in my opinion. Dennis

rayjay
03-10-2006, 07:35 PM
DR's kit includes Cobra ceramic coated manifolds, pipes w/one highflo Magnaflow cat on each side to the included X pipe and pipes back to within 6 inches or so of your muffler. The clamp on adapter may be included. DR installed mine to my mufflers and I am not sure if the adapter was included in the kit or part of the install charge. the system is a very effective power adder in my opinion. Dennis

Everything needed is included.

ctrlraven
03-11-2006, 01:24 AM
DR's kit includes Cobra ceramic coated manifolds, pipes w/one highflo Magnaflow cat on each side to the included X pipe and pipes back to within 6 inches or so of your muffler. The clamp on adapter may be included. DR installed mine to my mufflers and I am not sure if the adapter was included in the kit or part of the install charge. the system is a very effective power adder in my opinion. Dennis Ahhhh thank you Dennis son for explaining what all it comes with. I just thought it was down pipes from the header to tips (tubing that is). I did not know it came with headers, but yeah I would say its an effective power adder. Now does it have 4 02 sensors or would it be wise (which i will be getting anyways) the Xcal2 unit so I can turn off the 2nd set of 02 sensors and has anyone had problems with emissions with those sensors being turned off?

RF Overlord
03-11-2006, 04:31 PM
I did not know it came with headers,Technically they're manifolds, not headers...
Now does it have 4 02 sensors or would it be wise (which i will be getting anyways) the Xcal2 unit so I can turn off the 2nd set of 02 sensors and has anyone had problems with emissions with those sensors being turned off?The x-pipe has bungs for all four sensors...you re-use the original ones. The XCal is a very handy thing to have, but it's not strictly necessary.

ctrlraven
03-11-2006, 11:02 PM
Technically they're manifolds, not headers... The x-pipe has bungs for all four sensors...you re-use the original ones. The XCal is a very handy thing to have, but it's not strictly necessary. But the Cobra manifolds will flow more than the OEM ones on the Marauder? I don't want to put too much into manifolds/headers cause I don't know if I'm going s/c or turbo yet.

SergntMac
03-12-2006, 07:42 AM
But the Cobra manifolds will flow more than the OEM ones on the Marauder? I don't want to put too much into manifolds/headers cause I don't know if I'm going s/c or turbo yet. I was the first to install and test the Reinhart Cobra exhaust system back in 2003. I was supercharged back then , and I gained 30 RWHP and 30 RWTQ from his Cobra kit, using Magnaflow 18 mufflers. I have since purchased the Kooks, but resold them, the Cobra kit remains on my MM, and I am 500+ RWHP today. INHO, it a very close comparasion between the Kook's and the Cobra kit, very close.

Hotrauder
03-12-2006, 08:31 AM
Mac told me, when I was on the edge of the same question; go Cobra. I took his advise and I am glad I did. The power increase is significant, the ceramic coated manifolds are a quality product and the porting is a perfect match. The system can be as loud or quiet as you desire depending on what mufflers you choose to use. Some like loud, some really loud, and I like sleeper quiet. All are there, your choice. I am using stock mufflers now. Started with FloMaster 40's. :D Dennis

rayjay
03-12-2006, 09:24 AM
Yep, ^^^^^^ what Hotrauder said. Love the growl with the stock exhaust behind the DR Cobra.

ctrlraven
03-12-2006, 06:50 PM
The power increase is significant, the ceramic coated manifolds are a quality product and the porting is a perfect match. Dennis Is the ceramic coating extra on the cobra exhaust like it is on the kooks or does it already come coated? Yeah I am really leaning towards the cobra kit. Just with doing my rear section exhaust delete I've gained about a total of 30-40 more miles to a tank of gas :banana: and I haven't change how I drive so as soon as IRS gets their butt in gear and give me my money I can get a Xcal 2, K&N intake and Cobra exhaust which will hold me over until this upcoming winter.

rayjay
03-13-2006, 08:10 AM
Is the ceramic coating extra on the cobra exhaust like it is on the kooks or does it already come coated? Yeah I am really leaning towards the cobra kit. Just with doing my rear section exhaust delete I've gained about a total of 30-40 more miles to a tank of gas :banana: and I haven't change how I drive so as soon as IRS gets their butt in gear and give me my money I can get a Xcal 2, K&N intake and Cobra exhaust which will hold me over until this upcoming winter.

The Cobra manifolds come ceramic coated as part of the package.

merc
03-13-2006, 08:27 AM
Is the ceramic coating extra on the cobra exhaust like it is on the kooks or does it already come coated? Yeah I am really leaning towards the cobra kit. Just with doing my rear section exhaust delete I've gained about a total of 30-40 more miles to a tank of gas :banana: and I haven't change how I drive so as soon as IRS gets their butt in gear and give me my money I can get a Xcal 2, K&N intake and Cobra exhaust which will hold me over until this upcoming winter.

If you are looking for a DR cobra kit, and want to save a little money? I have a set of DR Manifolds and OEM pipe connectors. All you need is a X-pipe and have someone wield the 4-inch extensions on the pipe and that's it. Send me a P.M. if interested.

thePunisher
03-14-2006, 05:26 AM
is the x-pipe in the dr cobra exhaust stainless steel????

SergntMac
03-14-2006, 06:19 AM
is the x-pipe in the dr cobra exhaust stainless steel???? Can't say for sure, 'cept that my DR Cobra kit has been in place since 09/03, and there's not one hint of rust or corrosion anywhere in the system.

KillJoy
03-14-2006, 06:33 AM
Can't say for sure, 'cept that my DR Cobra kit has been in place since 09/03, and there's not one hint of rust or corrosion anywhere in the system.

Take that w/ a grain of salt.

Is your car a Daily Driver? Do you drive in bad weather (rain, snow)?

Alumanized Steel will last a good while even under bad conditions. I had a Gibson Alumanized Exhaust on my Dakota. After 4 years in daily Ohio driving (rain, snow salt), it showed only a little surface rust beginning.

KillJoy

O's Fan Rich
03-14-2006, 06:58 AM
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopexd.asp?zone=American&id=290

SergntMac
03-14-2006, 07:00 AM
Take that w/ a grain of salt.

Is your car a Daily Driver? Do you drive in bad weather (rain, snow)?

Alumanized Steel will last a good while even under bad conditions. I had a Gibson Alumanized Exhaust on my Dakota. After 4 years in daily Ohio driving (rain, snow salt), it showed only a little surface rust beginning.

KillJoy Dude...My KB #1x has been all over the country, and in hostile weather too. No, it's not a full time driver, I have a beater MM for work. However, it's been around enough to show some rust/corrosion on untreated steel components living in the same area of the exhaust.

I said I didn't know what the X pipe is made of, so, rather than disqualify my post, why not look for a correct answer?

KillJoy
03-14-2006, 07:24 AM
I didn't discredit or disqualify anything in your post. You didn't answer the question either, so don't get ticked off at me for pointing out a FACT about Alumanized Steel.

KillJoy

thePunisher
03-14-2006, 06:35 PM
rich ....whats the magnaflow link for??? are you saying it is stainless?....i will be purchasing it soon and just want to know.

O's Fan Rich
03-14-2006, 06:50 PM
rich ....whats the magnaflow link for??? are you saying it is stainless?....i will be purchasing it soon and just want to know.
Just showing what unit is used for the x pipe and cats. Of course it gets modified from there.
It says nothing in the description about stainless that I saw. I'll know first hand next week when mine goes on.

Oh, and let me add this: After going through what I've been going through to get a few parts together ( egr tubes will be seen in my sleep soon)
I would just get Dennis' kit and be done with it.... I still need to solve the tube issue.

thePunisher
03-14-2006, 08:21 PM
ok thanks... if its magnaflow then its stainless for sure....

SergntMac
03-14-2006, 08:50 PM
I didn't discredit or disqualify anything in your post. You didn't answer the question either, so don't get ticked off at me for pointing out a FACT about Alumanized Steel. KillJoy I wasn't ticked, but I hear you now.

jawz101
03-15-2006, 03:16 PM
Would there be any difference in performance if Kook's headers were added in the equation?

Blackmobile
03-20-2006, 08:57 PM
is the x-pipe in the dr cobra exhaust stainless steel????

I just got my set and I'd like to share how pretty it is.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/showimage.php?i=2069&c=newimages

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/showimage.php?i=2068&catid=newimages

ctrlraven
03-21-2006, 09:27 AM
I just got my set and I'd like to share how pretty it is.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/showimage.php?i=2069&c=newimages

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/showimage.php?i=2068&catid=newimages I'm sure you will have a grin from ear to ear once you get that installed, thanks for the pics.

rayjay
03-21-2006, 10:06 AM
I just got my set and I'd like to share how pretty it is.

You are going to like it. :up:

Blackmobile
03-27-2006, 11:23 AM
My kit adapts to the OEM mufflers

HEY Dennis, the set I have has some parts that I'm unfamiliar with. I was wondering if you could enlighten me on its use? It's the parts between the manifolds in the picture.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/9/6/9/DRCeramiccoatedcobramanifoldsR eallyGOOOOOOD.JPG

KillJoy
03-27-2006, 11:30 AM
Looks like an Extension Tube for the EGR.

KillJoy

RF Overlord
03-27-2006, 11:52 AM
Looks like an Extension Tube for the EGR.Give the man a banana! :banana:

Blackmobile
03-27-2006, 01:26 PM
Looks like an Extension Tube for the EGR.

KillJoy

Would you know if it is needed for the install,
or is it a just in case part,
because it doesn't appear to attach to the manifold?

KillJoy
03-27-2006, 01:42 PM
It should attatch on the Driver Side towards the bottom of the Manifold (there is a BUNG for it :) ). It will be required to install the Manifolds.

KillJoy

Dennis Reinhart
03-27-2006, 03:53 PM
HEY Dennis, the set I have has some parts that I'm unfamiliar with. I was wondering if you could enlighten me on its use? It's the parts between the manifolds in the picture.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/9/6/9/DRCeramiccoatedcobramanifoldsR eallyGOOOOOOD.JPG

Its a extention for the EGR tube