ebay Trilogy Marauder - 5K miles - Decked out

[Marauder2005]

...On Ebay, very nice car. If this has been posted before, please forgive

me :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercury-Grand-Marquis-MARAUDER-MARAUDER-SUPERCHARCED-NAVIGATION-DVD-XMRADIO-NORESERVE_W0QQitemZ4616903250Q QcategoryZ6340QQrdZ1QQcmdZView Item

[MarauderMark]

Whats the little toggle switch on the side of the gauge pod for?

[DEFYANT]

Whos car was it? Very clean. And a no reserve auction??? Someones gettin a good deal!

Ohhhh Liiiiiisssssaaaaa.......

[DEFYANT]

Whats the little toggle switch on the side of the gauge pod for?

Differnt tunes in the computer?

[Smokie]

....deleted.

[the_pack_rat]

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23345

[DefyantExWife]

i already have one, why would I want another ?

[the_pack_rat]

i already have one, why would I want another ?
Cause' then you would be one step closer to having a complete set.

Then you would only need a blue one & a red one.

:P

[Marauder2005]

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23345

What a shame :(

[Rider90]

Nice one? How about that blown engine...

It would be different if they said the engine failed and was professionally rebuilt, but, it's a salesman :P

[DEFYANT]

.....private bidders.... hmmmm.

[jgc61sr2002]

Whos car was it? Very clean. And a no reserve auction??? Someones gettin a good deal!

Ohhhh Liiiiiisssssaaaaa.......

Charlie - My thoughts exactly.:D A sweet deal for someone.

[JFB]

I GUESS IT'S A PRIVATE BIDDER AUCTION SO THE BIDDERS NAMES ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR SOMEONE (LIKE ME) TO TELL THEM THE REAL STORY:mad: :mad:

[Vortech347]

What the real story to that car?

[Tallboy]

What the real story to that car?

See post #6

[DEFYANT]

I GUESS IT'S A PRIVATE BIDDER AUCTION SO THE BIDDERS NAMES ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR SOMEONE (LIKE ME) TO TELL THEM THE REAL STORY:mad: :mad:

What kit number is that?

[sweetair]

I sure hope someone doesn't get too "suprised" when they buy it and realize there is a little problem.

[JFB]

The engine was blown up within 30 minutes of me trading it in on the ZO6. A very interesting story that is too long to tell here. If your'e interested e-mail me privately.

Joe

[Rider90]

If the engine was blown would that show on its OASIS report?

[King Fubar]

If the engine was blown would that show on its OASIS report?

Not if Joe ***** the Ragman rebuilt it. Only dealers and insurance companies use Oasis and such.

[Rider90]

Not if Joe ***** the Ragman rebuilt it. Only dealers and insurance companies use Oasis and such.
It had to go back to the dealership, right? Would the dealership do it in-house?

[King Fubar]

It had to go back to the dealership, right? Would the dealership do it in-house?

The dealership blew it up, yeah they could've did it in house but kept it hush hush for the simple fact that people may take down the VIN and run it on Oasis. That would lead to confrontation and a very discouted price.

Synopsis 2: They wholesaled it to this clown and ate the difference like Joe said and this guy had it rebuilt and isn't saying nothing about it.

IMHO they sold it busted at auction. What dealer in thier right mind would wholesale a S/C MM with the miles as low as they are.

[King Fubar]

The bids are probably private so this schmuck could run up the price too.

[the_pack_rat]

If the engine was blown would that show on its OASIS report?

No, like Fubar said .....

Not unless the repairs were made at a Ford dealer.

If the car had -

A new engine built with decent parts, by a decent wrench & was installed by a decent wrench with LEGIT RECEIPTS to back it all up .....

This might not be a bad car to chase after.

The fact this guy wants to keep this all hush hush is what sours the whole deal IMHO.

As we all know .....

The engine sitting in there, could, keyword COULD, have the potential to be better than the OEM one that took a dump.

But when one would rather not "go there" or be truthful about the history or offer up a description of the work done & some proof(aka receipts) ..... I wouldn't hold my breath.

Shoot .....

Proof of purchase & labor for a simple reasonably priced take out short or long block, or even a custom one, that others have found on-line here & bought for themselves, would even suffice as long as the labor wasn't a hack job.

Look at what I think TooManyFords picked up for his car :

http://www.lethalperformance.com/pages-productinfo/category-19_369_1148/product-5727/03-04-mustang-mach-1-engine-shortblocks-modular-mustang-racing-400900-mmr-46l-street-mod-900-shortblock.html?zenid=44cda848 ed5e2fde469a99c3849837d5

Pretty damn reasonable if you ask me.

Damn shame too, as that car looks damn clean.

If I had some extra green laying around .....

I could see myself being a "Mr & Mrs MM" household round here ..... y'know what I mean ?.

[Vortech347]

Wait....the car was traded in with a Trilogy? Shoulda put it back to stock and sold the blower. Did you get extra $ for it? 99% of the time you don't and eat the cost of stuff like that.

[ezratty]

WOW, you gotta check this one out - owner must have had a ton of $ to spend on this car. upgrades, custom badges etc. no reserve and under 5k miles. i wish this one came up before i bought mine. if your looking i don't think it gets better than this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4616903250&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

[jimlam56]

Um, there's more to the story...

[ezratty]

I love a good marauder story - lets hear it

[jimlam56]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23345

[fastblackmerc]

Is this the one the idiot sales people took for a test drive, filled it up w/ 91 octane and proceeded to blow the engine?

[jimlam56]

Is this the one the idiot sales people took for a test drive, filled it up w/ 91 octane and proceeded to blow the engine?
yeppers...

[Macon Marauder]

Musta gotten some emails. Have since added this:
On Feb-27-06 at 07:50:53 PST, seller added the following information:

WE RECENTLY LEARNED THE ENGINE ON THIS CAR WAS REPLACED AT ONE POINT BY ONE SHOWING LITTLE OVER 3,000 MILES. ALL WORK WAS DONE BY QUALIFIED TECHNICIANS.

Hmmm...

[not5-0]

Even with the history of this car it may turn out to be a deal. I wish I could get that Trilogy and not the car. I wonder what Phil Smith chevy paid for it, it was ashame to trade in a car with all these goodies.

[MM03MOK]

I merged the two threads....

[Bonedriver]

Whats the little toggle switch on the side of the gauge pod for?

It's an aux switch for the XM satelite radio. You flick it and then use the CD button to listen to the satelite. I have it in my Vic...

Or likely a tune switch as his radio is pretty bad ass. Can't see the original owner not getting a head unit that is not already "XM Ready"...

oh, sorry didn't see the other post about the tuner switch...

[hitchhiker]

...On Ebay, very nice car. If this has been posted before, please forgive

me :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercury-Grand-Marquis-MARAUDER-MARAUDER-SUPERCHARCED-NAVIGATION-DVD-XMRADIO-NORESERVE_W0QQitemZ4616903250Q QcategoryZ6340QQrdZ1QQcmdZView Item

Another shady seller who conceals the bidder's identification.

When will the shill bids drive the price up?

:D

[SHERIFF]

Musta gotten some emails. Have since added this:
On Feb-27-06 at 07:50:53 PST, seller added the following information:

WE RECENTLY LEARNED THE ENGINE ON THIS CAR WAS REPLACED AT ONE POINT BY ONE SHOWING LITTLE OVER 3,000 MILES. ALL WORK WAS DONE BY QUALIFIED TECHNICIANS.
Hmmm...

My younger brother was looking at this car during the first auction. He has since made an offer on another Marauder being sold by a private seller. But in the meantime, I received e-mail from the seller today too after my asking about the engine. The seller, "Carlos", says he was out of the country and knew nothing about the engine being replaced not being disclosed in the auction. And went on to explain how he fired somebody when the mistake was discovered or whatever. Let me go get it.....

OK, here's what the seller says.....

YES IT WAS REPLACED WITH ANOTHER D.O.H.C. 4.6L WITH A LITTLE MORE THAN 3,000 MILES ON IT BY MERCURY TECHNICIANS. I WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY FOR A WHILE AND JUST CAME BACK AND FOUND THIS. I HAD INSTRUCTED MY NEWLY HIRED SALESMAN WITH DIFFERENT TASKS, AMONG THEM TO LIST THIS CAR AND TO POST THE ENGINE REPLACEMENT, OBVIOUSLY HE DIDN'T. THATS WHY I FIRED HIM. THIS DOESN'T DIMINISH AT ALL THE VALUE OF THIS CAR, BUT OF COURSE IT IS ONLY MY OPINION. IT LOOKS LIKE NEW IN AND OUT AND PERFORMES GREAT. IT WAS ME WHO CONTACT THE FIRST OWNER AND TOLD HIM ABOUT THE DAMADGED ENGINE, HE DIDN'T KNOW NOTHING. ACTUALLY I DIDN'T KNOW THERE IS SO MUCH INTEREST FOR THESE CARS, NOW I THINK IT WOULD HAS BEEN A GOOD DECISION TO KEEP IT. HOWEVER, MY SALESMAN SHOW ME COPIES OF A COUPLE HARRASING EMAILS, WHICH ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF PLACE. I APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST. IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT ME. THANK YOU, CARLOS.

[woaface]

Holy **** I want that thing....is there no reserve on the auction!?!?

DRooooollll....

[DEFYANT]

His response to my vague question:

DEAR BIDDER, I HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE COUNTRY FOR A WHILE AND JUST CAME
> BACK. MY NEWLY HIRED SALESMAN WAS SUPPOSED TO INCLUDED THE INFORMATION
> ABOUT THE ENGINE REPLACEMENT. HE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T READ ALL MY NOTES TO
> SAY THE BEST. THIS CAR HAS A REPLACEMENT ENGINE WITH LITTLE OVER 3,OOO
> MILES. THE CAR IS IN PERFECT CONDITIONS AND THE PERFORMANCE IS GREAT.
> I EVEN WAS PLANNING TO KEEP IT FOR MYSELF. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER
> QUESTION THEN PLEASE ASK. BY THE WAY THIS SALESMAN HAS BEEN FIRED. THANK YOU, CARLOS.

[Rider90]

BY THE WAY THIS SALESMAN HAS BEEN FIRED.
Yeah, right...

[DEFYANT]

Fired for a typo in an eBay auction. Sure he was....

Carlos, I am sure you are reading this.... Your fulla crap.

But I'd still by that car :D

[seans]

Carlos doesn't mention if the "new" motor still has the trilogy attachedand I'm sure he can prove the true mileage on the new motor. I wouldn't touch this no matter how good a deal it sounds.

[KillJoy]

I also messaged him throught Ebay.

I also got the same response. In all caps. What a lying tool. Step away from the car. If it smells like crap, it can't taste good.

KillJoy

[Smokie]

Is this the one the idiot sales people took for a test drive, filled it up w/ 91 octane and proceeded to blow the engine?

91 octane is Premium fuel, 87 octane is Regular. If 91 octane blew the engine up.....not supposed to. 87 octane will detonate a S/C MM.

[RoyLPita]

I also noticed in one of the engine pics that the coolant is green. MMs after 9/02 used the yellow stuff. It is ok to use the green coolant for the Trilogy. According to Carfixer, leaks are easier to detect.

[ezratty]

this guy is in sales, he'll do anything to move this car. who knows what was really done to it. carlos probaly didn't think Marauder.net members would even notice.

[magindat]

OK, here's what the seller says.....

YES IT WAS REPLACED WITH ANOTHER D.O.H.C. 4.6L WITH A LITTLE MORE THAN 3,000 MILES ON IT BY MERCURY TECHNICIANS.


1) If this is true, it should be in OASIS.
2) If it's a replacement, I want to meet the 'Mercury Technicians' who uninstalled and re-installed a Trilogy with no instructions.
3) Such a swap would surely have generated a call to Trilogy for help.
4) We know it was traded with 4920. So, they swapped the motor, swapped the Trilogy, dynoed, tuned, and test drove and it's at 4996?!
5) He's talking motor swap after 3K? It was traded in with 4920? Where's the motor swap info?

I feel very badly for the poor sole (yes, I mean sole not soul) who ends up with this car.

my 2 cents worth

[Jerry Barnes]

O.K. Folks,

Just got off the phone with Carlos, new owner of Joe Blair's car(Trilogy S/C #46), and Claude. I have instructed Carlos to make some changes before he drives the car. I also referred him to Claude to work with us on the calibration. Bottom line, we are sending him a new Installation manual, a new calibration and some technical support to make the car healthy again. Carlos says he may not sell the car he likes it so much. Apparently one of his employees gave some mis-information and he is no longer an employee. But, we want to make sure the car is running well again. Also, the car was not running a Trilogy Motorsports calibration when the engine failed. So, I want to put the stock tune back in the car and correct some other changes.

Just thought the Marauder Family would like to know we are helping Carlos get the car back on its feet. Yes, the engine was toasted.

Sincerely,

Jerry

[MM03MOK]

Nice, Jerry!

[j_puff]

So is it gonna be all set for the end of the auction? Did he clarify what the deal is with the engine replacement?

Not that I can afford the thing anyway just yet, just curious.

[sspmustang]

Fired for a typo in an eBay auction. Sure he was....

Carlos, I am sure you are reading this.... Your fulla crap.

But I'd still by that car :D
Yes, there's a very strong similarity in the "old salesman" and the "new salesman's" use of vernacular..or lack thereof :D
Regardless, this car seems to be heading for $20K+.....
--Mike

[MaLo03]

shumshing shrange goin on here.....:shake:

[drwhy]

So has anybody talked to our buddy Carlos and found out why all bids were cancelled? I'll bet some people are a little ticked.

Tom

[jdando]

Yep, they cancelled my bid of $5000. Lost my chance to get a second MM cheap:rolleyes:

jeremy

[not5-0]

does anyone know what became of this infamous Marauder?