Does this have a suspension term?

[Rider90]

I've had the Metco arms in for a little while now, and ever since installing them the car feels very tight in the corners. The problem I currently have since installing them is the back end wants to break loose more often or atleast thats how it feels. With the stock arms I could hug corners and the weight would transfer to the opposing side causing a little more body roll but atleast the tires would stick. Now I can almost forget what body roll feels like, but the weight doesn't seem to transfer as well, and the rear tires break loose more often. I'm not saying that it happens on 15 or 20 MPH turns, I am indeed pushing the limits, but I don't recall the back end coming out this much. One nice thing is when it does break loose, the rear end is so solid I can control it much easier than I could with the OEM control arms. I got the feeling with the OEM arms that they would flex, or the pressure applied into the rubber bushing would cause some shifting that would make the rear end bounce around.

Is there a term for this? and would the solution be wider rims & tires?

[bryanthomas]

The common term for this is oversteer.

[Rider90]

The common term for this is oversteer.
Will the front QA1's fix this problem?

[dwasson]

Since you made the rear stiffer in the roll axis the front suspension gripped proportionally more. One way to fix would be a stiffer front sway bar.

[Rider90]

Since you made the rear stiffer in the roll axis the front suspension gripped proportionally more. One way to fix would be a stiffer front sway bar.
I have the front Addco 1.25" sway bar and poly bushings already, I don't think there is a bigger one.

[BK_GrandMarquis]

Will the front QA1's fix this problem?

There are a few things that can compensate for oversteer. One of them would be adjustable shocks. Wider rear tires would help too.

[juno]

I think the front QA-1's could help by running them stiffer then stock.
I don't know how much the rear QA-1's will help. You would have to set them softer then stock if that is possible.
How is your ride height? Have you tried lowering the rear a little at a time? This in combination with rear QA-1's might help. After next weekend I will be able to speak more about the rear QA-1's as they showed up at my door last nite. (Naake - excellent service - only 2 days from the far left Coast) I will put them on this weekend and test the QA-1/Addco Rear swaybar combo next week at Sebring. I will ask the professional drivers who will be riding shotgun with me about these issues.

[Bradley G]

I think you have hit the limits of the (near stock size) rubber.
I have recently done the Welded boxed lower control arms and upper "Limo" plus the addco rear bar.
These mods, along with no front upgrades, and I'm seeing the same as you, Probably more.
:burnout:
Suspension time!,.... For you.

[grampaws]

Have you tried adjusting the rear tire pressure.
letting a couple of pounds out will sometimes
allow the tires to aborb some of the forces..
and form to the road better..
overinflation can reduce a tires traction..
just a query?? sometimes a slight adjustment
can save a few bucks..or help until you
compensate with the front mods..

[juno]

Good idea!


Have you tried adjusting the rear tire pressure.
letting a couple of pounds out will sometimes
allow the tires to aborb some of the forces..
and form to the road better..
overinflation can reduce a tires traction..
just a query?? sometimes a slight adjustment
can save a few bucks..

[Rider90]

Have you tried adjusting the rear tire pressure.
letting a couple of pounds out will sometimes
allow the tires to aborb some of the forces..
and form to the road better..
overinflation can reduce a tires traction..
just a query?? sometimes a slight adjustment
can save a few bucks..or help until you
compensate with the front mods..
I could try that, I've always liked 40 psi and they wear evenly at that pressure, but I'll try 35.

Yes, my suspension has been lowered about 2" in the rear. Measuring fender lip to rear lip my rake is gone.

Thanks guys

[grampaws]

I like the higher tire pressures for fuel mileage..
but have found your driving has to be a little more
conservative..especially in the rain!!

[Zack]

Poly bushings are JUNKfor such a heavy car.
Get soft bushings and the problem will be fixed.
Look at everyone's 60 foot time with Metco Arms.
Look at mine, 1.602, stock bushings.
This is a redundant argument, I know, but Mac and I built our arms for all around performance.
Good luck solving the problem.

[jimlam56]

This is a redundant argument, I know, but Mac and I built our arms for all around performance.


Sure would like to buy a set...:rolleyes:
I'm no engineer, but it seems to me that the tubular design would be better in cornering situations.

[grampaws]

A rock solid suspension is not going to be very
forgiving..The softer bushings would have merit..
and worth considering..They would be better
for daily driving..

[Rider90]

Poly bushings are JUNKfor such a heavy car.
Get soft bushings and the problem will be fixed.
Look at everyone's 60 foot time with Metco Arms.
Look at mine, 1.602, stock bushings.
This is a redundant argument, I know, but Mac and I built our arms for all around performance.
Good luck solving the problem.
Are the bushings interchangable?

[Zack]

Are the bushings interchangable?

I dont think so, but I never tried.