Blower Question

[Bigdough]

Since our engine is pretty much the same as the 03-04 Cobra engine, can we jus swap the stock blower setup from the Cobra directly onto our car? Why or why not?

Jus got me a Marauder and Im already lookin to mod her up. :D

[rayjay]

Since our engine is pretty much the same as the 03-04 Cobra engine, can we jus swap the stock blower setup from the Cobra directly onto our car? Why or why not?

Jus got me a Marauder and Im already lookin to mod her up. :D

Welcome to the site. The engine is related to the 01 Cobra engine. To the best of my knowledge no one has done that swap. There are three or four blower setups for the MM. Do a search, there is a wealth of info available.

[SergntMac]

Marauder engines do not have the beefy internals the Cobra engine has.

[bryanthomas]

The Marauder's engine is same 4.6 4V DOHC V8 found in the Mach 1, not the Cobra. The Cobra blower has fitments issues. I believe it can be made to fit, but it is more of a hassle than just plunking down the money with Trilogy for the same Eaton supercharger that has been painstakingly developed especially for our cars. :)

[jgc61sr2002]

Welcome to the MM site.:D :welcome:

[Joe Walsh]

There are a few Marauders where the owners did a complete Cobra engine swap. I'm not sure if anyone has bolted a Cobra S/C set-up onto a Marauder engine.
Welcome to the site!

[RoyLPita]

Welcome aboard. Enjoy the site and new ride.

[DEFYANT]

Welcome aboard. Look up Tom Doan(?) on the board. He swapped an 03/04 engine into a Marauder.

[Bigdough]

Well, Ive researched and found out that the block (not the internals, but the block itself) and heads are the same as both the Mach 1 and 03 Cobra. So if they are the SAME, why wont the blower setup jus bolt right up to it?

I saw the Trilogy kit and if it uses the same exact blower then why do I need to spend $5000 when I can get it from an 03 Cobra for WAAAAY less? Thats what I dont understand.

[KillJoy]

WELCOME!

I think (not sure for certain) that the Cobra Blower's shaft is too short for use on the MM's. I caould be wrong, it DOES happen every now and again!

KillJoy

[thePunisher]

03 cobra block is iron not aluminum....but that probably doesnt matter here....

[SergntMac]

Well, Ive researched and found out that the block (not the internals, but the block itself) and heads are the same as both the Mach 1 and 03 Cobra. So if they are the SAME, why wont the blower setup jus bolt right up to it? I saw the Trilogy kit and if it uses the same exact blower then why do I need to spend $5000 when I can get it from an 03 Cobra for WAAAAY less? Thats what I dont understand. Okay, you win. You have made your point. I think you should go for it, be the first, eh? I'm sure we will have plenty of questions for you along the way, so, please turn back here every so often with a progress report?

[AzMarauder]

Well, Ive researched and found out that the block (not the internals, but the block itself) and heads are the same as both the Mach 1 and 03 Cobra. So if they are the SAME, why wont the blower setup jus bolt right up to it?

I saw the Trilogy kit and if it uses the same exact blower then why do I need to spend $5000 when I can get it from an 03 Cobra for WAAAAY less? Thats what I dont understand.

Because you are wrong about the block....

You are wrong about the blower bolting to the block.... bolts to the intake...

If you researched this as you say you will see that this has been discussed several times before... in GREAT detail.

There is much more to the blower setup than just the Eaton. Think heat exchanger, pump, reservoir, injectors, etc.

BUT if you do your own thing, are good at fabrication, enjoy a challenge, you might save a buck or two if you figure this all out and do a Cobra blower swap onto an MM.

If you do... take LOTS of pictures.

[KillJoy]

I know I can get a Cobra Setup for less than $2K. If you can tell me how to hook it up for less than $500, you'd be a very rich man.

KillJoy

[281cammer]

Lets dig up a old thread. Any new update on the 03-04 Cobra swap? Cost isn't my question. I already have a whole 03-04 blower setup (blower,intake,heat exchanger,alternator and bracket,etc) You name it I have it! If I do this in a marauder, I'll be buying a 03-04 Cobra longblock. My biggest question is, anyone done this? Will it clear stock hood, if not is there a way to get it to clear?

[Pops]

Contact Tom Doan as he has a complete Cobra set up under the hood. It was done very well and he had to overcome a number of issues in the swap. This would be the best way to get the info that you are looking for.

[KillJoy]

Cost isn't my question.

If you remove cost from the equation, ANYTHING is poossible.

;)

KillJoy

[RF Overlord]

Will it clear stock hood, if not is there a way to get it to clear?You should have no clearance problem with this (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39518). :D

[281cammer]

If you remove cost from the equation, ANYTHING is poossible.

;)

KillJoy

Not that I'm rich, but I already have the entire 03-04 cobra blower setup (blower,intake,heat exchanger,alternator and brackets,etc). It was given to me.

[Bradley G]

I don't believe you would save much money, if that is your intent.
Drop Jerry B. a line and let the fun begin! :burnout:
quote=281cammer;554230]Not that I'm rich, but I already have the entire 03-04 cobra blower setup (blower,intake,heat exchanger,alternator and brackets,etc). It was given to me.[/quote]

[sailsmen]

First off what is your goal? If you want an s/c on a MM, just sell what you have and buy one of several bolt on kits for a safe 450RWHP.

If you want over 500RWHP put in the Cobra. Sherman did it, u must either fab a new bracket for the alt or notch the frame.

[MMMAN]

I recommend you sell your Cobra S/C and purchase one of the following three kits that already work well with Marauders:

Procharger
Trilogy
Vortech

And call it a day.

[ROB502]

I've done things like this but always got to sing " I've done it my Wayy..":P

[281cammer]

First off what is your goal?


My goal? Well basically I've always wanted a Marauder, and I just so happen to have a entire 03-04 Cobra blower set(blower,intake,heat exchanger,alternator and brackets, hoses etc) so I figured why not. If I do proceed with this swap I will purchase a 03-04 cobra longblock, that way I can run 16-18 psi with no issue. I know I'll have to buy a few here's and there's but, that's no issue I work at Ford dealer and get parts at a discount.
Thanks for everyone's help

[Raudermaster]

PHP (Paul's High Performance) did this swap as well, even included the T-56 with it. You could contact them if you're serious about it. However, I think you will be much happier in the long run with a blower provided from one of our vendors.

[sailsmen]

Now I am confused, what type of car do you plan on putting the engine in?

If you have what is a complete engine and this is your goal then it's no biggy, been done several times by Dennis Reinhart and I am sure others.

If you want a low 12 second car that can go 100K miles just put one of the Kits on a Marauder. Sell what you have to pay for the Kit.

Again if you want over 500rwhp go the Cobra route.

[281cammer]

Now I am confused, what type of car do you plan on putting the engine in?



Type of car - Marauder. Sorry for the confusion. I want a black one to be exact. Looks like I might try and travel down the 03/04 swap path, I'm not afraid to try anything once.

[sailsmen]

That's awesome! You will really have a machine.

Realize you should also go w/ a built tranny and an upgarded rear end.

Keep us posted. Plus you can sell the old Marauder engine to pay for the tranny and rear end parts, maybe also pay for some upgraded brakes!

[281cammer]

That's awesome! You will really have a machine.

Realize you should also go w/ a built tranny and an upgarded rear end.

Keep us posted. Plus you can sell the old Marauder engine to pay for the tranny and rear end parts, maybe also pay for some upgraded brakes!

I knew the tranny would have to be upgraded. I'm kinda knew to the Marauder world. Aren't they 4r70w's in 03 and 4r75w's in 04? As far as brakes is there a easyway to swap the Cobra pbr stuff over?

[Raudermaster]

Yes, 4R70W's in the '03's, and the 75's in the '04's. No, there is no "easy" swap for Cobra brakes, I don't believe they'll fit. TCE Performance is one of the vendors here, and I believe he is having a Group Buy on one of the kits. He sells Wilwoods and most of the guys on here have them, and love them.

[281cammer]

Yes, 4R70W's in the '03's, and the 75's in the '04's.

Ok so is the 4r75w that much better? I've seen some mean 4r70w equipped mustangs so it should be just a good a canidate I'd think.

[sailsmen]

I don't think there is a big diff between the two, a diff gear ratio in one gear?

You can get a tranny kit from one of our vendors.

Brakes have several levels of upgrade, go with what you need based on how you will drive. Same w/ the rear end, Ford truck LSD/Axles are an alternative.