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KillJoy

05-17-2006, 09:06 AM

I got a set from the Group Buy, but have yet to install them. They appear to be much better in quality than the stocker (from the pictures in MM2004's How-To).

I will probably not install them until the S/C arrives though :(

KillJoy

PS - Are the stockers not available throught F/L/M?

Sully008

05-17-2006, 09:20 AM

I've bought them and my car idles smoother. Slight better throttle response off the line as well. I do have the original springs, but like I said in Jason's thread, I didn't take very much care in pulling them out. They're a little stretched.

MM2004

05-17-2006, 09:26 AM

Everyone knows I have a set per my thread started yesterday:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27286

Jason,

It may be very difficult to locate used OEM connectors that are pristine as I found removing them causes bending of the coils on the connector. I am sure you can straighten them out prior to re-installing them, as they weren't too bent out of shape after removal.

I have to ask this; are you positive that the Granatelli connectors snapped onto the spark plugs completely? I ask this as I found it took quite a bit of pressure to seat them. To the point I was a little uncomfortable when pushing down that firmly. You would have felt/heard the 'snap' in place.

I would rather hold onto my OEM connectors, as I am funny about keeping all of my OEM parts that are replaced with upgrades.

Good luck!

Mike.

fastblackmerc

05-17-2006, 09:31 AM

Have you purchased (from anyone) a set of the Granatelli coil on plug connectors? If so, how do they perform?
I purchased a set during the 1st GB. I really can't say there is any improvement other than piece of mind that there won't be any issues with the OEM crap.

crom

05-17-2006, 09:34 AM

I purchased a set from Wes. Installed them that weekend as per directions (no brainer). When I started the car, it idled much smoother, revs better, throttle response is crisper/cleaner. I put new plugs in at the same time, but the set I replaced were all GTG and only had 15K on them. Definitely a good upgrade over the OEM.

Zack

05-17-2006, 10:27 AM

I ran 11.60's with the stockers. Thats good OEM crap in my book.

O's Fan Rich

05-17-2006, 10:57 AM

I'm gonna have a hard time giving my opinion on these. I will be putting mine on when I install the S/C. I'll be swapping Valve Covers ( Thanks AGAIN, Jim!!) and doing a lot of other things at that time.
I'd imagine that the connectors will result in the smallest increase of power at that time.

martyo

05-17-2006, 11:04 AM

I ran 11.60's with the stockers. Thats good OEM crap in my book.

Yikes, Zach and I agree.

SergntMac

05-17-2006, 01:42 PM

I ran 11.60's with the stockers. Thats good OEM crap in my book.Ummm...Didn't you just ask me for my extra set a few days ago?

O's Fan Rich

05-17-2006, 01:46 PM

Ummm...Didn't you just ask me for my extra set a few days ago?
He want's an 11.599.

Hotrauder

05-17-2006, 01:59 PM

I purchased mine before the group buy, from Summit I believe. I was having my powder coated cam covers installed and wanted the connectors changed as the OEM didn't impress me that much when we removed them for the Trilogy install. There was no issue of performance of the OEM's and I noticed no improvement with the Granatelli's and didn't expect any. The price was less than the GB and shipping was free. I don't have worries that there will be a problem when they need to be removed for service work in the future and that was my primary concern. Dennis:D

jimlam56

05-17-2006, 02:20 PM

I didn't notice any performance/efficiency gains.
I will say that the obvious difference in quality gives me piece of mind that the juice is getting to the right place in the maximum dosage.
Rider90, I wish I had saved my old ones for you, as 7 out of 8 were extracted without damage. But I was so disgusted with their wimpiness I pitched em.
I humbly suggest you don't give up on the Granatellis, especially with your power adders.

Mr Johnson

05-17-2006, 02:42 PM

Just got mine on yesterday from the GB. No instant ah-ha moment but idle seems a bit smoother.

MikesMerc

05-17-2006, 03:20 PM

Tallboy

05-17-2006, 03:26 PM

I haven't put mine on yet. However, I suspect no performance gains. I do, however, suspect that I will not have any problems related to the coil connectors after the upgrade. This is the kind of mod that offers peace of mind and is preventative in nature.

Probably the best summation on this mod.

However, I'm sitting here, reading a lot about these things lately. I've got a question-how many people have actually expirienced a failure or problem from the OEM connectors? Anyone?

HwyCruiser

05-17-2006, 03:42 PM

No problems with the COP connectors here. They definately helped out a cold low-load hesitation I was experiencing.

The plugs have been in and out of the engine at least 5 times since I've had the car in 40k miles (original Motorcrafts to Densos, Densos pulled for cam cover r&r, Densos back to Motorcraft, Motorcrafts pulled out and checked twice since the s/c install), so I wonder if pulling the coil packs often could loosen the contact area between the OEM springs and the plugs?

Rider90

05-17-2006, 03:53 PM

I changed out all my plugs and still have a hesitation that was not there before the Granatelli downgrade.

SergntMac

05-17-2006, 05:12 PM

I changed out all my plugs and still have a hesitation that was not there before the Granatelli downgrade.It's become obvious to many members here (considering the e-mail and phone calls I have taken in the last 24 hours) that this investigation has not been concluded. I wish to continue it, and I will use my own Marauder to do so.

Rider90...I will buy your disappointing Granatelli coil pack connectors for 50 bucks, for the complete set. 8 connectors and 8 boots, you can keep the dielectric grease.

E-mail me at SergntMac@aol.com or call me at 312.401.1396, and we'll work out the details.

Since you don't like them, there is no sane need to take a hit in the pocketbook. 50 bucks is 50 bucks...eh? Better yet, show me an invoice and I'll cover any refund, and you're whole again.

With respexct to finding replacements for the OEM "springs", this thread has some prospects you can hit on for donations of OEM stuff.

Rider90

05-17-2006, 05:29 PM

a $50.00 bill cut up and wedged into my coil pack boots won't make the car run any better. I can't make any deal of any sorts until I have something to replace the Granatelli kit.

SergntMac

05-17-2006, 05:43 PM

a $50.00 bill cut up and wedged into my coil pack boots won't make the car run any better. I can't make any deal of any sorts until I have something to replace the Granatelli kit.Oh, I get that. I understand. Once you are up and running, and everything is cool, reach out. No need for you to take the loss of this investment if it didn't work for you, and I am likewise not rushed.

MM2004

05-17-2006, 05:53 PM

a $50.00 bill cut up and wedged into my coil pack boots won't make the car run any better. I can't make any deal of any sorts until I have something to replace the Granatelli kit.

Jason,

Take Mac up on his offer then go to your L/M dealer and purchase 8 new OEM connectors with the $50.00.

Instead of paying shipping to members all over the country that are willing to part with their stretched out ones?

Cut your losses if that is how you feel towards the Granatelli connectors.

Mike.

Rider90

05-17-2006, 06:14 PM

Jason,

Take Mac up on his offer then go to your L/M dealer and purchase 8 new OEM connectors with the $50.00.

Instead of paying shipping to members all over the country that are willing to part with their stretched out ones?

Cut your losses if that is how you feel towards the Granatelli connectors.

Mike.
I did not know these were sold seperately, are you sure?

MM2004

05-17-2006, 06:19 PM

I did not know these were sold seperately, are you sure?

I have no clue. Call your L/M Dealer and ask.

Jason. ***** or get off the pot. Several of us are tryinig to help you, and all we are getting in return is resistance.

If you need to discuss further, call me @ 502.558.2912.

Best,

Mike.

Paul T. Casey

05-17-2006, 07:15 PM

Probably the best summation on this mod.

However, I'm sitting here, reading a lot about these things lately. I've got a question-how many people have actually expirienced a failure or problem from the OEM connectors? Anyone?

I've had 3 of the OEM's fail. This is due to the water issue, not really a connector problem. I seem to have solved the problem with an extra preventitive maintainece step, i.e. re-seal the cover every 1 to 2 months.

Rider90

05-17-2006, 08:07 PM

I have no clue. Call your L/M Dealer and ask.

Jason. ***** or get off the pot. Several of us are tryinig to help you, and all we are getting in return is resistance.

If you need to discuss further, call me @ 502.558.2912.

Best,

Mike.
Hey Mike - what's your problem? I did not know they were seperate, it will save me a lot of money if they are. When did I resist you? you asked if I checked certain areas and I did, I didn't know that was resistance - Are you really trying to help me or are you trying to make me look stupid as if I didn't check the most obvious areas under the hood?

Thanks but no thanks, glad these wires are working fine and dandy for you, they aren't for me.

Rider90

05-17-2006, 08:08 PM

I've had 3 of the OEM's fail. This is due to the water issue, not really a connector problem. I seem to have solved the problem with an extra preventitive maintainece step, i.e. re-seal the cover every 1 to 2 months.
That's a great idea and with all the time I spend cleaning under the hood I have added it to my things to do when cleaning. Thanks Paul