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Pat
06-03-2006, 09:14 PM
Is there any interest on this board in the STS remote turbo set-up? :rolleyes:

The Mustang and F-150 have single or double turbo kits available now. but large sedans (any make, model) are not represented (yet). :(

I've inquired about a kit for the Marauder a few minutes ago and should an answer from the Squires Turbo Group early next week.

In the meantime, I would like to guage the interest for such a kit from members of the MM.net.

The cost seems to be well below current centrifical blower prices. :cool:

Check out this site for more info www.ststurbo.com (http://www.ststurbo.com) :burnout:

sabtaj1
06-03-2006, 09:15 PM
I would be interested. would like to know more first though.

David Morton
06-04-2006, 02:34 AM
I made an inquiry a few months ago and they sent me back a proposal.

They will send me all the stuff for the dual Mustang setup minus the pipes (Duh). All I have to do then is have the pipes fabricated, contact the tuner and start debugging.

Not what I was hoping to hear.

Good luck. Perhaps more interest from the guys here will turn their ear in our direction. My thinking is a system made for our car could easily be adaptable to any Panther car with mostly pipe changes and a small tune program adjustment (probably more RPMs and a little less fuel because of our cooler running heads). Injectors, pump and turbos would all be the same for any 281/4.6L shooting for 7-10 lbs boost.

Right now I'm looking at the possibility of a dual turbo setup that can run straight ethanol. Might need injector poundage in the triple digits and probably dual fuel pumps. But with the higher octane of the cooler running alcohol, we can probably get away with 20+ pounds of boost. Fuel mileage will be horrendous, but the way things are going with the petroleum supply, I'm seriously considering waiting a year and then deciding which way to go.

At least with alcohol I can go ahead and move to Louisville, my home town, and not worry too much about fuel supply. There's a distillery for every square mile in that city. :lol:

Gre8one7
06-04-2006, 04:14 AM
ive been looking into turbos for awile. Started peicing together wheat i would need to build a custom twin turbo, but things are being put on hold again as i am moving back to illinois because of an illness in the family. A twin turbo will cost more then a blower though...thought i would mention that. Turbines alone will be around $2500.

rocknrod
06-04-2006, 04:49 AM
Hmmmm thats that remote mounted turbo.
Very nice. I would like to look into that for my Marauder.

grampaws
06-04-2006, 07:27 AM
Still Interested in turbo packages...:popcorn:

Pat
06-05-2006, 05:37 PM
Well, I got a reply back from STS about a turbo kit for a Marauder (Panther platform). The only product they offer at this time is a Universal Kit, which consists of a 5 lb turbo, waste gate, oiling system and PCV system. All the piping is omited, for $3125.00. An upgraded turbo in the 9-12 lb range is an extra $400.00

That means an exhaust system would have to be fabricated from dual to single somewhere aft of the CATS. No Mufflers on this system. An intercooler would have to be purchased and all the tubings/adapters from the turbo thru the intercooler to the motor would have to be fabricated or purchased piece meal or both.

Tuning would have to be accomplished by someone, somewhere, somehow.

This would run the cost up to what an S/C kit costs.

I'm thinking I'll be better off with an S/C kit, less of a chance for a show stopper hardware problem.

I found other turbo threads on this site and this pretty much parallels the experience of others,

jimlam56
06-05-2006, 05:45 PM
Well, I got a reply back from STS about a turbo kit for a Marauder (Panther platform). The only product they offer at this time is a Universal Kit, which consists of a 5 lb turbo, waste gate, oiling system and PCV system. All the piping is omited, for $3125.00. An upgraded turbo in the 9-12 lb range is an extra $400.00

That means an exhaust system would have to be fabricated from dual to single somewhere aft of the CATS. No Mufflers on this system. An intercooler would have to be purchased and all the tubings/adapters from the turbo thru the intercooler to the motor would have to be fabricated or purchased piece meal or both.

Tuning would have to be accomplished by someone, somewhere, somehow.

This would run the cost up to what an S/C kit costs.

I'm thinking I'll be better off with an S/C kit, less of a chance for a show stopper hardware problem.

I found other turbo threads on this site and this pretty much parallels the experience of others,
The turbo route seems to be the hard way with these cars. I remain commited to checking out that option when the time comes, as I can't get out of my head the fuel efficiency of the turbo. But it is a whole lot easier to spend the coin on S/C and drive the same day...

cruzer
06-05-2006, 08:51 PM
I made an inquiry a few months ago and they sent me back a proposal.


Right now I'm looking at the possibility of a dual turbo setup that can run straight ethanol.

At least with alcohol I can go ahead and move to Louisville, my home town, and not worry too much about fuel supply. There's a distillery for every square mile in that city. :lol:
David, Hi--I put in 4 years pre-med at U of L--spent my first year of married life there --- and had our first child there--flew F-51 Mustangs with the KYANG out of Standiford--selected American Airlines over U of L Medical School---good decision for me---helped keep the distilleries going --Enjoy retirement---I sure do, Maury
PS--sorry about hijacking thread:D :nono:

rocknrod
06-06-2006, 05:26 PM
This is the answer they gave me on the Marauder installation:

"We Have a universal kit that we offer people that we do not have a kit for. It comes with everything that a normal kit comes with ecxept for the piping and the tuning. It is possible to get it on there with a little measuring and pipe bendind through any muffler shop or whatever other means available. If that sounds of interest to you please give me a call for more details."

crowdog
06-12-2006, 11:08 AM
I posted thread about STS back in April 2004, search remote turbo, but they were unwilling to pursue a kit for the Marauder. I even offered my car as a test mule but they were not interested and recommened there universal kit. I hope you have better luck on kit development.

Breadfan
06-12-2006, 11:19 AM
FWIW, STS is a smaller company (I believe) and their product has really taken off in the last year. They've probably got their hands full manufacturing kits, and developing kits for more popular cars. Hence why I doubt you'll see much movement in the Marauder arena for a dedicated kit.

As such, I'd not recommend this for anyone other than those who are adventurous, ready to be at the forefront, and can deal with the possible pitfalls.

For those looking for a cheaper or more efficient solution to S/C, this will not yet beat what we have in the S/C arena simply due to the complexity of finishing the kit's engineering.

Kudos to those who are going to try this, but for those just looking for a cheap alternative to S/C'ing and not ready for the committment I'd recommend looking elsewhere for the time being.

Maybe in time someone can develop this into a good kit with solid tuning.

Heck, maybe STS will offer a reseller's discount - someone could develop this to a complete kit and sell them on behalf of STS...

sfsv
06-12-2006, 07:07 PM
Iam a firm beliver in keeping it simple. After dealing with turbos in the eighties when turbo kits were like being married to horrible wife who only had two good days out of the month. The acceleration was wonderful, but the overall drivability was horrible. In theory, turbochargers are the best power adders, but the key to their success is that the kit is well engineered and properly tuned. In all honesty, the remote rear turbo sounds hard to believe, I must talk with some Mustang owners who are running their kits and get their opinion. I know for a fact that Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords, did an article on them and wasn't to favorable. I am concern about the length on hoses and tubes, because I remember all the leaking issues with hoses and band clamps. For the MM the best overall solution is the Trilogy Motorsports kit, excellent product and excellent after sale support. Read some of the posts by Sunshine State Marauders that have taken the plunge into supercharged side. That is my .02.