Trilogy Radiator Size

[Rider90]

Looking to know the measurements/specs of the Trilogy-supplied radiator. Anyone?

[Zack]

Go out to your car and measure it.

[DEFYANT]

It is a take off from the 03/04 Cobras. The specs are the same.

[shakes_26]

26.5 wide, i think its 6 or 6.5 high, and about 1.25" thick, maybe 1.75" thick.

Its the one from the 03/04 cobra as Defyant stated.

There are a few choices out there Fluidyne, AFCO, and I beleive Amazon offers one as well, check with Rick or Lynn.

I've been researching this, hard data is scarce as to actual enhancement or performance increase. I really just want more margin to heat soak and more margin for open track events where you can be into the boost hard for nearly a minute or so.

The AFCO double pass is not recommedend, Lidio tried this before but it reduced the flow too much on the interrcooler circuit and went with a BAP for the intercooler pump.

I think the Fluidyne is like 3" thick, so fitment starts to come into play, but its narrower, but reportedly uses OEM mounting location (for Cobra).

Lidio had another supplier making custom ones but that seems to have gone out, been waiting for a few months and still nothing. Not Lidio's fault, supply of cores dried up, oh well thats how the custom world crumbles.

Now if we had a Lightning or Harley, we could get some monster ****nat, with dual fans even!! Hey Donnny.....

[Rider90]

Shakes, do you have any links or more information as to what would just drop right in and fit within the bracket? Thinking along the lines of aluminum.

I did some searching and could not come up with anything that would fit 100%

[shakes_26]

link (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=AFC%2D80274N&N=115&autoview=sku)

summit, the AFCO, seems to have a thicker core, according to RPM outlet, who has it for $30 less as well, the Pro (dual pass) was worth a 40f drop in intercooler temps...like I said thats the dual pass and we're looking at the single pass.

I was going to hookup water temp in and out of the HX to see what I get now and then again with whatever choice. But I'm out of town a lot in the next few eeks and I have another project I was hoping to finish first.

SInce I wont be racing until the end of summer/early October anyways, its a moot point for me.

[Rider90]

Thanks for the link! Looks a little longer, think the Trilogy brackets will fit?

[Zack]

Shakes, do you have any links or more information as to what would just drop right in and fit within the bracket? Thinking along the lines of aluminum.


All heat exchangers are aluminum

[Rider90]

I found a Fluidyne unit for the 03/04 Cobra for $299.00

http://www.fluidyne.com/images/FHP3003COBHX.jpg

FHP30-03COB-HX 2003-04 Mustang Cobra Heat Exchanger
FLUIDYNE High Performance is proud to announce the release of the 2003-04 Mustang Cobra intercooler system heat exchanger, the FHP30-03COB-HX (MSRP $339.00. Destined to be a must have for the performance minded, the FLUIDYNE design is the only Cobra heat exchanger on the market that boasts a three row design with 1 inch tubes for maximum performance!

The FHP30-03COB-HX, like each FLUIDYNE High Performance radiator, is an all-aluminum welded construction featuring CAB-brazed (no epoxy) core for superior durability. This heat exchanger also utilizes FLUIDYNE's race-proven technology in fin design and configuration to deliver top performance and consistency.

The FLUIDYNE model is also a bolt-in fit, utilizing the existing mounting bracketry and rubber mounts for simple installation. Coupled with a FHP20-97MU direct-fit FLUIDYNE performance radiator (1997-04 Mustang), the FHP30-03COB-HX provides the ultimate cooling system package for the street and strip!

http://www.fluidyne.com/04news2.html

[DEFYANT]

Rider,

I'm not sure how far along on this you are. I've been looking at this upgrade for awhile also. I came across this over at SVTP.com :
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3671340&postcount=18

I pm'd him. The deal is $299 for SVTP members.

And as shakes mentioned above, I plan to hook a water temp guage in with a toggle to switch between engine and intercooler temps.

Question is.. where to hook into the intercooler coolant?

[Breadfan]

Question is.. where to hook into the intercooler coolant?

That would all depend on what temp reading you want - post blower intercooler or pre blower intercooler.

You'd probably want the pre-intercooler temps so you'd know how cool the coolant was that is going to the intercooler. So, presumably right after the intercooler...

I bet you could get a metal tube the fit into one of the rubber hoses and have a shop weld a bung on it for the sender.

About the units shown, they look considerably thicker than the stock unit. Where is the extra thickness going to go? In the front? Just wondering if it'd fit or if the front hoses mounts would cuase the hoses to kink a bit.

Or maybe mount it the other way around so the hoses go in the back??

You might also be able to mount a pusher fan on the front of the AC condenser, it would pull air in through the front which could promote more air flow at slow speeds - not like you'd be doing those too much. :) (But might help in the staging lanes...)

[MikesMerc]

These are some shots of the bigger heat exchanger Lidio had done up custom for me.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=94 72&stc=1&d=1152966858

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=94 73&stc=1&d=1152966866

This is the custom exchanger Shakes was referring to that Lidio's guy no longer makes. However, I'll go out and make some measurements and look for any indication of the manufacturer of the unit itself. Even though a tiny bit of custom welding might be needed, if you could get your hands on the core, this makes for a nice bolt in upgrade.

Performance wise, on a cool day is makes ZERO difference. The exchanger included with the T kit does just fine....even in increased boost applications. On hot days, however, there is a noticeable difference in coolant temps. I don't have any hard data, but the old "finger in the coolant" measurement provides more than enough difference for me to tell.

More importantly, as Shakes mentioned, is that the larger heat exchanger allows for more overall fluid in the cooling circuit thereby delaying heat soak. Combine better cooling with more fluid and you have nice upgrade for those running higher boost levels, sustained boost situations, or repeated boost situations.

THE key to an upgrade like this is to increase capacity and efficiency without decreasing flow rates. If flow rates plummit due to exchanger design (too many passes, basic flow restriciton) you'll be going backwards.

Bottom line, it is more important to worry about efficieny and flow rates than it is about whether or not the unit is "bolt in." Be careful in your selection.

[O's Fan Rich]

Rider,

I'm not sure how far along on this you are. I've been looking at this upgrade for awhile also. I came across this over at SVTP.com :
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3671340&postcount=18

I pm'd him. The deal is $299 for SVTP members.

And as shakes mentioned above, I plan to hook a water temp guage in with a toggle to switch between engine and intercooler temps.

Question is.. where to hook into the intercooler coolant?

http://autometer.com/cat_accessorieslist.aspx?pid=1 5
This is what I'm using. I went with the 5/8 heater hose exiting the IC and going to the resevoir and the 1 1/2 Rad for the upper hose.\
Note about the heater hose adapter, the sender blocks off alot of the flow, so I took a 1/8 tee and a short couple and a 1/8 cap and hung it off the side of the adapter.