T-Bird blower

[Raudermaster]

Alright, who thinks it can and can't be done? I mean, it looks like it would be not too hard to fit on there, but then again, anything is possible with money right? Mind you I would be getting this at about $300 rebuilt as well too. I just want input if you would waste your time with doing something like this. Thanks
Jarod

[Blackened300a]

good question, My friend is a T-bird guru, Ill run it by him.

[MarauderMarc]

If youre talking the V6 SC Coupe blower...dont waste your time. Youll get minimal results. Even if you ported it. I mean, for the price its worth a try, but I wouldnt do it. Saleen uses a version of that on their POS series 3 or 4 blower and it gives a SOHC engine a SMALL boost, but not worth bragging about.

[O's Fan Rich]

That's on a 3.8 v-6 right?
A 3.8 is a 5.0 with 2 cyl's cut off, correct?
You'd need some kind of custom blower adapter plate and a lower pulley.... at least.
I have no idea on the air intake.
Not for me.

[Raudermaster]

I mean, I thought about doing this when I had my '95 CV, but that was the last year of the foward facing TB and would have been harder for me. So I figure now since I have a sideways facing TB it could possibly be done. Yea, that is off the 3.8l. I wonder what the stock specs are on that thing are. Probably what, 3-5psi? I didn't know Saleen used that. What a gyp, you pay extra for all the Saleen options and they have the nerve to use that?

[Drock96Marquis]

The Supercoupe uses an Eaton M90. THat is pretty small, especially for a 4v 4.6 (trilogy uses the M112) AED uses a ported version, the M90S, for their supercharger systems. On the 3.8 the m90 is awesome. A T-Bird SC is REALLY fun to drive, even completely stock. On a 2V it offers great performance, not spectacular, but definitely note worthy. Great panther examples are JohnE and HookedOnCV's modified AEDs. On a 4v I wouldn't use it, the M90 won't keep up with the heavy breathing 4v, the M112 is better suited IMO.

Not too mention you will have to drop SERIOUS $$$ on a custom intake manifold setup, as well as bracketry, etc. A more basic fabbed sheet metal intake wont work, due to hood clearance. A cast aluminum/other piece would have to be custom engineered and made by a company able to do so. You would probably end up spending almost the same or more as a OEM quality Trilogy s/c setup.

[Grifter]

yeah, the m90 isnt going to be enough for the 4v motor.. its not even close to a bolt on either. if your really bent on custom fabbing up an SC setup, start with an m112, or if you want to get crazy, try and find the new m122h blower...

[SergntMac]

Any mod has it's rationale...Can it be done? How much will it cost? And, what is the "bang for the buck" payoff in performance or safety?

Looks to me that the T-Bird blower suggestion doesn't answer these questions to any satisfaction. This is why predefined "kits" work well for the Marauder owner.

If you want Roots type power, hands down the Trilogy kit rocks.

If you want centrifugal type power, both Reinhart and F.I.T. have worked out the rough spots with Vortech and ProCharger kits.

Zack's Kenne Bell exploration is coming together nicely, and with some "creativity" under the hood, this looks to build some kick-azz power for the Marauder, and under 5K. Keep an eye on this project, eh?

Bottom line is that there are a lot of possibilities and options already on the table, nonetheless, the rationale for any of them doesn't change.

[Raudermaster]

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I suppose I'll keep on saving for the Trilogy or D1SC kit. If Zack can get the KB kit to work with minimal to no problems, I may try that route because face it, everyone loves KB!

[MarauderMarc]

Theres a guy selling a ported and rebuilt Eaton from his Cobra. polished and all for 400$ PM me if interested.



http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m193/Gra03cobra/Blower1.jpg

[fast Ed]

As suggested, by the time you're all done (unless you're a very good fabricator in your spare time), the Eaton M90 off an SC T-Bird isn't worth the effort. A complete M112 system removed from an 03 - 04 Cobra would be a much easier go!!

cheers
Ed N.

[Raudermaster]

MarauderMarc, how many miles on it? That won't be a direct bolt on though would it? What would I need to do to make that work?

[SergntMac]

MarauderMarc, how many miles on it? That won't be a direct bolt on though would it? What would I need to do to make that work?You do realize that this Cobra take-off is also a passenger side intake, right?

[Breadfan]

Front snout isn't long enough either. Would require extensive mods to work with our motors...

[94_302]

Front snout isn't long enough either. Would require extensive mods to work with our motors...
I have heard this and am a little confused. We pretty much have a Mach-1 motor and they have been able to swap eatons on to their motor. I think it's a straight bolt on for them, once you have every single part needed which I think one person said was about 2 pages worth of part numbers. I know it would most likely be cheaper to buy a kit from one of the vendors here, but why would the snout be too short for a Marauder and be ok for a Mach.

[Breadfan]

I have heard this and am a little confused. We pretty much have a Mach-1 motor and they have been able to swap eatons on to their motor. I think it's a straight bolt on for them, once you have every single part needed which I think one person said was about 2 pages worth of part numbers. I know it would most likely be cheaper to buy a kit from one of the vendors here, but why would the snout be too short for a Marauder and be ok for a Mach.
Well it isn't too short, it just needs more modification than just bolting on the blower since that blower is setup for a 1 belt application.

The Trilogy Eaton is the same case but longer snout and uses a 2-belt setup. This keeps the 6 rib setup for the accessories but gives you an 8-rib belt for the blower.

Otherwise you'd have to swap all your pulleys to an 8-rib - so you'd need alot more donor parts from an '03/'04 Cobra than just the eaton.

And then, of course, you'll need a tune.

So for the front setup even if you went with a smaller setup or low boost and kept 6 rib, you'd still need to move the alternator and get a cobra style coolant bypass setup...or modify it such as Zack did on the KB setup he's working on.

[Raudermaster]

I knew the Cobra blower needed some work to get to fit on our cars. I was just asking, if it's going to be more money than worth it, the Trilogy still has my vote.

[Agent M79]

$300 for a supercharger?? Hmm. Sounds like 4 raffle tickets to me.