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Gre8one7
09-04-2006, 09:13 PM
Well for those who have gotten the blue smoke problem fixed how much does it cost? I was slowly burning oil until last week i took my car into have my new tires put on and i decided to have them change the oil. Well the oil cap saying "5w-20" wasnt enough and they put in 5w30. And it gets worse... quarts of oil after i told them i needed 7. Didnt catch that they did that right away but i noticed i was constintly burning oil now...Its not to bad but even after some driving u can see a small hint of blue smoke coming out of the exhaust. Whats it cost to get this problem fixed?

SergntMac
09-05-2006, 03:03 AM
Not worth it if the funds are out of pocket. Got any warranty left? Cry your eyes out...

RF Overlord
09-05-2006, 03:54 AM
^^^what Mac said^^^

Using 5W-30 will not make the blue smoke issue worse. Since it is caused by faulty valve guides/seals, a slightly thicker oil may actually help a little, if anything.

ctrcbob
09-05-2006, 10:34 AM
Takes 6 quarts, not 7. That could be why you are burning oil. It's over filled.

Breadfan
09-05-2006, 11:35 AM
Even still the blue smoke at startup issue is just that - at startup. If you're burning oil while driving you may have a different issue.

Drock96Marquis
09-05-2006, 12:04 PM
Oil burning while driving is likely the same issue as start-up, worn/defective valve stem seals. Look at a 92-95 CV or GM and you will see the same thing, it starts out only after start-up. As the condition worsens it will happen whenever accelerating. Of course other issues can do this as well, but this seems to be the most common with modulars.

And +1 on the overfll, you only take 6qts, not 7. This could the main reason for your excessive smoking right now, take a looksee at the dipstick.


There seems to be mixed debate on whether running 5w-20 actually accelerates this issue, vs running 5w-30 like all modulars did before 01.

MainEngDwarf
09-05-2006, 12:13 PM
I had the blue smoke at start up issue. The dealer in NY where I bought it tryed to fix it and failed,(new valve cover and PCV setup, new valve seals in the passenger side head). When I moved to Va Beach in Jan. I decided to try again. Luckily I got a real good mechanic at the Ford dealership down here. He discovered that not only was it smokeing at startup, but was puffing smoke occasionally while running. Ford decided to do a teardown and replace rings. When the engine was tore down they discovered "soft" rings in all 8 cylinders, and ring slots lined up in 4 cylinders. :confused: Since they had the heads off,( and they couldn't find the proper tools to tear the heads down) They sent them to a local ( and reputible) machine shop, where they found out of spec valve guides and seals. Needless to say they rebuilt the heads. Now the engine is quieter tighter and I hate to say it(not really) but faster. I guess there are still good dealer mechanics out there. :D

RF Overlord
09-05-2006, 12:32 PM
...ring slots lined up in 4 cylinders. If you meant ring gaps, that would do it...

MainEngDwarf
09-05-2006, 12:41 PM
If you meant ring gaps, that would do it...

Oops sorry wrong term, but you knew what I meant

RF Overlord
09-05-2006, 12:54 PM
...you knew what I meant I did indeed... :D

Breadfan
09-05-2006, 01:03 PM
Yep basically of the three rings on a piston when you put them on there is a tiny gap on each one where the ring itself comes together, the need to be rotated apart from each other to prevent blow-by.