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cyled
05-22-2003, 10:56 AM
Yesterday I got 22.7 miles/gal. !!!! It was a 4 hour trip. I was at 350.7 miles and still an 1/8th of a tank (according to the guage).
Most of this was interstate driving. Cruising to keep with traffic at 80.
Cyle
LincMercLover
05-22-2003, 11:09 AM
You'd get even better gas mileage if you kept it around 70-75 too! I've noticed I can kinda watch my gas gauge drop if I'm doing 80-85.
engine23ccvfd
05-22-2003, 11:29 AM
Sh** you guys are lucky I have yet to get better than 14.5 but I only have 2500 miles....wife is really pissed I sold the MM buy on her by promising better MPG course didnt tell her about the 93 octane part HeHe..
WolfeBros
05-22-2003, 11:32 AM
LML your right. These Marauders with 3:55's have a sweet spot about 2200 rpm which is about 72-75 mph. They just sing at that rpm and can run all day there.
TripleTransAm
05-22-2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by LincMercLover
You'd get even better gas mileage if you kept it around 70-75 too! I've noticed I can kinda watch my gas gauge drop if I'm doing 80-85.
It seems to be aerodynamics and gearing-related (RPM). My 1987 and 1998 Trans Ams both like 70-72 mph as their MPG sweet spot (the 1998 yielding reproducible consistent 33 mpg tankfuls and the 1987 pulling out some 26-27 mpg tankfuls in 2001). With something as big as the MM, I'd expect a slightly lower speed would be beneficial, but not too low as to keep it far below a useable powerband.
At just under 3000 miles on the clock, my MM managed an approximate 23 mpg reading on a day trip last week keeping speeds to 60 mph or so. I was going to try upping that to 70 on the way back home to compare results, but the car insisted on being towed home on a flatbed instead. :mad:
TripleTransAm
05-22-2003, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by WolfeBros
LML your right. These Marauders with 3:55's have a sweet spot about 2200 rpm which is about 72-75 mph. They just sing at that rpm and can run all day there.
Interesting. Have you compared mileage results at various speeds? I'm SO curious to know where the MM lives most efficiently (call me boring, but I drive 80+ miles a day... that gas adds up!!!).
WolfeBros
05-22-2003, 11:48 AM
3TA, wish I had enough highway miles and data to help you out.
I have run from 13 mpg to 21 mpg but that is mostly in town with a little highway in between. I know she likes to run at 2200 rpm. The dual exhausts gets a little zero-beat resonance going on and I get this stupid grin on my face too. Knowing that if I stomp it even at that speed it will take off like a rocket on command. :D
Just checked it last night. Got 18.5 mpg. This was almost all stop and go driving. Also had friends in town for the race and I had to show them what it would do so I know it could have done better.
Only checked it once on purely interstate driving. Steady 72 mph got me 24 mpg.
TripleTransAm
05-22-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by WolfeBros
I know she likes to run at 2200 rpm. The dual exhausts gets a little zero-beat resonance going on and I get this stupid grin on my face too. Knowing that if I stomp it even at that speed it will take off like a rocket on command. :D
You most certainly won't get any disagreement from me on that comment!
I may be taking a drive to Ottawa tomorrow or Saturday, maybe even to try it at the track for some 1/4 mile action. I might try a couple of different steady speeds (to and from) to get a couple of more data points in there.
Speaking of steady speeds, the trick is NOT to keep a steady speed (unless you're on a totally flat road, of course). Cruise control is NOT the model of mileage efficiency... it's goal is to maintain speed. That means constant little movements of the throttle to keep the car moving at a constant speed. Every time the throttle opens, the injectors have to feed a greater amount of fuel to make up for the sudden inrush of pure air into the plenum. If the PCM was to wait for feedback from the O2 sensors, you'd still get a lean stumble everytime you opened the throttle somewhat during cruising. The whole technique is called Acceleration Enrichment, and this was implemented in the old carb days by the accelerator pump on the carb (squirting raw fuel into the air stream everytime the throttle blades opened).
So I usually get my best numbers by keeping the pedal steady. I will slow somewhat going up a hill, but I'll gain some coming back down. Within reason (and safety of course), the result is the engine running in acceleration enrichment as little as possible.
prchrman
05-22-2003, 12:20 PM
gotta use the cruise...my 13 gets mighty heavy on long trips...car is just toooooosmooooooth...can not feel or sense the high speed...then it's the blue light special...
Paul T. Casey
05-22-2003, 12:22 PM
Best is still 27 mpg, cruise on but "helping on hills" i.e. little throttle before, cruise off coming down. In OD, 60-65 mph taching approx. 1800, through Highway Patrol infested highways in PA, and NJ. Not much fun, but good on the wallet. Tank was all highway, I think range was somewhere around 450 miles, filled on quarter mark.
Marauder57
05-22-2003, 12:54 PM
Well I don't think many of us bought the MM thinking we would be getting 60 mpg.....but here is my suggestion....Sam's Club Gas.
Man do I love Sam's Club gas...we have one near my house. I have made up for my membership 10 times over (it was $35). I bought gas 93 Octane, last week for 1.445. Typically I can get 93 Octane for a penny or two over what 87 is going for.....
And everyone seems to know this in the area...that place is pumping gas out with lines all day long everyday....
Hemlock
05-22-2003, 12:55 PM
HAVE 25,000 MILES NOW , MM STILL STEADY AT 17MPG TOWN-21 ROAD AT HIGH CRUISE .
MAD-3R
05-22-2003, 12:56 PM
We have Costco here. THey just put a Sam's in, but Costco prevented them from installing pumps :lol:
Marauder57
05-22-2003, 12:58 PM
That stinks....we have a BJ's Wholesale club about 3 miles from there with Gas as well and I suspect it is the same kind of deal.....I don't know whose brand they end up using...but I have been using the 93 in my F150 since they moved in and it has been running great.
Murader03
05-22-2003, 01:03 PM
I've got 21000+ on the beast. I drive 100+/- 5 days a week. Weekends the car stays in the garage, "unless" I can get away without doing the honeydo's. With 4.10's, RPC and plugs, I average 18.8 to 22.0. Trips with the cruise get me the best, and on my daily commutes, my foot gets a little adverse tick in it that says go....go....go, and thus, lower reporting mileage....Duh!
SergntMac
05-22-2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by engine23ccvfd
Sh** you guys are lucky I have yet to get better than 14.5 but I only have 2500 miles....wife is really pissed I sold the MM buy on her by promising better MPG course didnt tell her about the 93 octane part HeHe..
You have posted this before, Engine 23...Man, there is something wrong here. With all the mods I have, and the way I'm scooting all over town, my worst has been 16 MPG. Even our "day at the races" (which never occured donchano) I came back with 20 MPG.
You need to see your wrench on this, 14.5 may have been the program for the first week or so while you are taking all your buds for joy rides...Hey...wait a minute...
Do you have a locking gas cap door? Seems I recall one of my buds (also a FF) was the victim of a practical joke from the guys in the House....That's right, they snuck five gallons a week out of his new Town Car, and his better half was in on it! Always bugging him about the rotten gas mileage...They even took it further before they got caught, by putting five gallons back in! '94 Town Car, 32 MPG...right!
Maybe you should check this out too?
TripleTransAm
05-22-2003, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Paul T. Casey
Best is still 27 mpg,
Wow. My hero! :D
That definitely deserves some sort of award, I can't believe you managed that with this car!
FLA RAUD FAN
05-22-2003, 08:18 PM
Just clicked over 800 miles on the odo and checked the mileage on the last fill-up. 17 mpg for mostly city driving. Have not had a chance to check highway mileage yet.
JP
jgc61sr2002
05-23-2003, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by WolfeBros
LML your right. These Marauders with 3:55's have a sweet spot about 2200 rpm which is about 72-75 mph. They just sing at that rpm and can run all day there. Wolfe - Thanks for the tip. Going on several road trips this summer. John:up:
I've checked my mileage about 10 different times over the past couple of months. Worst I've done is about 18 in mostly city driving, including freeways. Best I've done is almost 22 in mostly highway. I've been very happy with the mileage, especially for a two ton beast.
WolfeBros
05-23-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by jgc61sr2002
Wolfe - Thanks for the tip. Going on several road trips this summer. John:up:
and if its a fairly level stretch of road I am betting you'll get 24 mpg. Let us know how you do. Also might want to air the tires up to about 33-34 psi for road trips. :up: I usually keep mine at 32 all around for in town.
TripleTransAm
05-29-2003, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by WolfeBros
and if its a fairly level stretch of road I am betting you'll get 24 mpg.
Bingo. WolfeBros wins the prize.
I just calculated my mileage results from my ill-fated trip to Quebec City about 2 weeks ago (the infamous harness chewing incident) and got:
24.76 mpg
This was with 4 adults and a 19 month old in the car, with a baby carriage in the trunk. It wasn't terribly warm out that day, so I suspect the auto climate control wasn't commanding A/C usage much, although I do recall some really cool air from the vents on some stretches. No cruise control was used, and being a flat stretch of highway about 160 miles long, I was able to stick to 60-65 mph the whole trip.
Tires were verified at 32 psi all around just before the trip. Used 91 octane fuel from a reputable source (and has been verified as my preferred 1/4-mile and mileage fuel as well).
CRUZTAKER
05-29-2003, 07:28 PM
4:10's, chip, therm, & plugs....70 mph (+,- 50) on 94 octane, freeway only=23.3 MPG.
Hammerin around town is consistant at 17.3 (+,-) .8 MPG.
Must be doing something right, and STILL having fun! :up:
deerejoe
05-29-2003, 08:12 PM
Too hilly here in the Ozarks for great gas mileage results...but at $1.38 per gallon who's counting???
studio460
05-31-2003, 09:22 PM
Am I the only leadfoot around here? I get 11-13 MPG in the city.
A '69 Plymouth GTX!!! Cooooooool.
SFMarauder
05-31-2003, 09:38 PM
Just picked up my 300A in Boston from moparzz with 4000 miles on the odo. Drove to SF @ 80 all the way and got 23.8 mph. Best car I've owned in 20 years!! I'm trying to talk my wife into letting me get a second one to stash away in the garage. hehe
No mods yet--comming soon
RCSignals
05-31-2003, 10:51 PM
Sounds good, and congrats on the purchase Nick
MM03MOK
06-01-2003, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by Nick Schulz
Just picked up my 300A in Boston from moparzz with 4000 miles on the odo. Drove to SF @ 80 all the way and got 23.8 mph. Best car I've owned in 20 years!! I'm trying to talk my wife into letting me get a second one to stash away in the garage. hehe
No mods yet--comming soon
Congratulations Nick. I have become friends with Moparzz through this board and I know your new car received special care in its infancy. Now you get to enjoy all the fun of making it even better!!
Welcome aboard!
Welcome aboard, Nick!
I must say, you are probably the current record-holder of the longest roadtrip in a Marauder. She sure is nice out on the open roads, eh?
Marauderman
06-01-2003, 08:53 AM
I'm about right on with Cruz--last weeks trip to lower Fla. from CLT.NC both ways around 75-100 at times -never got less than 22.7 and once a 23.2...... I think the beast is starting to become of age with her mileage 5K and her stage 1 sets it up real nice....
seems I'm a mod behind TAF but catching up....gotta see how his
pullies feel......then....cha-ching..hear we go again.....Aren't we just having a ball..!! :banana:
jgc61sr2002
06-01-2003, 01:12 PM
Nick - Welcome to the site. Sounds like you had a great trip. Good luck with your new ride.:up:
SlvrBullet
06-02-2003, 07:58 AM
Just picked up my new silver 300B, drove from Las Vegas to Tucson, kept changing speeds to help break in engine, got 22.5 MPG :D
MAD-3R
06-02-2003, 07:59 AM
Welcom SlvrBullet!! Enjoy the site, and thanks for the report :up:
jgc61sr2002
06-02-2003, 07:59 PM
SlvrBullit - Welcome you came to the right site. The best on the net thanks to Logan and LML. Enjoy.:)
JGaignat
06-02-2003, 10:56 PM
I travel about 50 miles a day, about 45 of it is highway at 80mph. I get about 20mpg. No mods. I have to put my foot in it a time or two on the way to the highway. I have about 4500 miles on it. (A heck of a lot better than my wife's Suburban......10mpg)
Bigdogjim
06-02-2003, 11:28 PM
Well I got the gas truck to follow me: I have been in for service a few times. Problem poor fuel use. (duh) I avg. around 12-14 local. No I do not sart out like a bat of hell! They know there some thing wrongbut, they can't put a fix on it! On the bright side my last pick-up got about 7 MPG..
Oh well at least I'll go to the poor house in style :beer:
I also only get 12-15 MPG. 15 on highway. 3500 miles and the only mods to drive train is flowmasters. Anyone know what the problem could be?
TripleTransAm
06-03-2003, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by A3GR
I also only get 12-15 MPG. 15 on highway. 3500 miles and the only mods to drive train is flowmasters. Anyone know what the problem could be?
Poor fuel mileage is a tough one to track down. Right off the bat, any service department that won't drive around for a bit with a scan tool hooked up to verify data from the PCM isn't worth their salt, and one should seek out another dealership.
Once you've got that data, off the top of my head they should be looking at injector pulse widths (aka the amount of time the injectors are pulsed on within their 'block' of operation -> longer ON time = more fuel sprayed). Throttle position sensor readings should be investigated, along with airflow readings. While they're at it, oxygen sensor values should be checked... all it takes is for an oxygen sensor to go bad and the PCM will try to adjust the fuel delivery in some way.
Fuel pressure can also affect mileage. Too little pressure and the fuel dribbles out of the injector... too great and the amount of fuel issued per injector firing will be excessive.
I almost forgot the temperature sensor readings... if the PCM keeps thinking the car is cold, it will run overly rich. A bad temperature sensor has been known to do this on PCM-equipped cars.
Mechanical influences shouldn't be neglected, either. A faulty caliper might keep applying braking force on one wheel, resulting in excessive fuel consumption. Try driving around for a while in normal city driving, not pushing the car, and then stop to see if one wheel is hotter than the others. Have them check the brake booster shaft where it meets the brake pedal lever, see if it is lazy in retracting (see my other thread on faulty brake light performance).
That's all I can think of right now, but if I think of anything else I'll let you know.
Macon Marauder
06-03-2003, 06:29 AM
I got a solid 17 MPG city average for about 4500 miles. Then the CEL came on. Went in for service, was told it was running too lean. Sensor replaced and off I go.
Now I get about 15.5 city. Afraid to go back...
SlvrBullet
06-03-2003, 06:38 AM
Actually, the Marauder is my wife's car, I drive a 2000 Mustang GT. I've found with the GT that 50% throttle driving away from the stop lights nets me the best gas mileage. Why? Simple! The sooner you get into high gear, the better the fuel economy. Believe it or not, I usually average 22 mpg in the GT. We'll see how the wifey does in the Marauder. Both cars have California emissions calibration. I really think pulling away too slowly from the stop light sucks gas, and is boring as well. :coolman:
SergntMac
06-03-2003, 08:20 AM
TTA, nice post, thanks for the chechlist of things to consider when investigating poor MPG. You guys suffering poor MPG could start there, or, take another look at how you drive your MM, and what you want her to do for you. I suspect a few of you are whopping the throttle more than you let on, but in any event, anyone getting less that 15 MPG should investigate. Maybe get a dyno test, see what's happening with your AFR, shift patterns and so on?
It's been said, but I'll add it again. Do what you can to reduce your rolling drag, play with your tire pressure. In my climate, my MM rolls the easiest, and longest with 35 PSI at all four corners. She handles better, IMHO, but she reports every crack in the street. I happen to like that feed back, but you may not.
Reducing drag will show in MPG, trust me, the difference can be astounding. Finding your minimum rolling drag doesn't have to be a major project, it will take maybe an hour of time, stop watch or clock with second hand, an air gauge, and something to write on, to chart changes.
Fill your tires to 40 PSI and drive the car to any speed where the car will settle in and carry it's own weight, all your acceleration and gear changing is done and you are just maintaining a steady speed. Slip into neutral and time how long it takes to coast down 5 MPH. Write that down, stop, reduce your PSI by 1 pound evenly at each corner, and repeat the test.
At some point you will notice a maximum time, and that's your minimum drag. When the time starts to shorten, you have passed your peak. Low drag means long coast which impacts MPG favorably.
Also, consider the mods that reduce powertrain labor when launching a heavy car. I've posted a long, but concise reply to 3:90 vs. 4:10 thread, I won't bore you here. A lot of that 411 would also impact your MPG favorably, if you can keep your foot out of it...IMHO.
Heavy D.
06-03-2003, 09:54 AM
Sarge,
Great advice in that post. I'll give it a try myself, although my mileage is good, since I'm messing with tire pressure anyway to determine best handling/road feel (so far 34-36 psi seems best). I also used the search engine first(!), so sorry to disappoint all of you who would have been bored by my "What's the best tire pressure" post...
Ha!
TripleTransAm
06-03-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Heavy D.
I also used the search engine first(!), so sorry to disappoint all of you who would have been bored by my "What's the best tire pressure" post...
Ha!
Okay, I'll bite...
What's the WORST tire pressure?
:D :D :D :D
Dr Caleb
06-03-2003, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by TripleTransAm
Okay, I'll bite...
What's the WORST tire pressure?
:D :D :D :D
Flat. Duh!!
:lol:
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Heavy D.
06-03-2003, 01:47 PM
Too funny! Thanks for the laugh!
To get back on topic, I average about 19-21 combined city/highway, heavy on the throttle unless it's raining. Best I ever got was when my buddy drove it home for me from Chicago, while I drove my beater - it was 22.7 combined City/Highway. The worst was about 17, after bull*****ting in the parking lot with coworkers while it was running, for about 1/2 hour. It seems to be improveing slightly, now that I've got 2500 miles on it.
jgc61sr2002
06-03-2003, 02:53 PM
I would have to agree with Sarge a heavy foot = poor gas mileage. Although 40 Pounds of air pressure will increase your mileage the ride would be horrible. If your concern is gas mileage drive conservativly. I know you will see an improvement.
03MERCMARAUDER
06-05-2003, 12:59 AM
this thing gets great gas mileage, i was in west va last montha nd was runnig 94 octane in mine. i went to virginia to see some friends and ran 100+ the whole way and got 21.5 thats impressive to me, I drive a lighting and at best i get 14 so the MM is a big imporvment
SergntMac
06-05-2003, 05:22 AM
Originally posted by jgc61sr2002
I would have to agree with Sarge a heavy foot = poor gas mileage. Although 40 Pounds of air pressure will increase your mileage the ride would be horrible. If your concern is gas mileage drive conservativly. I know you will see an improvement.
Thanks, John, but for the record, my suggestion of "40 PSI" in the tires, is only as a starting point for a road test. Find your ideal PSI and you should see some improvement on MPG.
studio460
06-05-2003, 08:16 PM
I like your new avatar graphic, TripleTransAm--and thanks for the great post! And Sarge, thanks, as always, for your informative posts as well, but you're scaring me where you stated, "anyone getting less that 15 MPG should investigate."
I live in California where all we can get is 91 octane. I have only been fueling with non-Ethanol mixes, filling my tank with only MTBE-additive Mobil or Chevron fuels. Could octane have an effect on mileage?
I admit, I'm heavy on acceleration, but my city range (OD off) has been between 11.4-15.4 MPG, with an average of 13 MPG (cruise-controlled, OD-on, highway-only driving I believe is about 22 MPG). Since highway mileage seems to be in check, do any of TripleTransAm's diagnosis suggestions still apply?
SFMarauder
06-05-2003, 10:02 PM
NBC I have the same CA 91 octane problem. When I picked up my car in Boston I noticed it got better mileage (and performance)on the 93 octane. I guess the ECM likes higher octane. Wish we could get better gas here on the wrong coast.
Also my city (OD off) is 13- 15 and freeway (OD on) is 20-22.
Love this car smile the whole time I'm driving. Great site, thanks Logan and LML I check in every day. Everyone here is great.
When are we going to have a West Coast Meet?
Regards Nick
TripleTransAm
06-05-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by NBC Shooter
I live in California where all we can get is 91 octane. I have only been fueling with non-Ethanol mixes, filling my tank with only MTBE-additive Mobil or Chevron fuels. Could octane have an effect on mileage?
Octane shouldn't have an effect on mileage, I think. Then again, if you're constantly demanding a good head of steam from the 4.6, and you're getting some knock on whatever gas you're using, then the retarded timing might result in a power loss and have you dipping deeper into the throttle to make up for it. The result will be an indirect drop in mileage.
I've gotta look into this MTBE stuff. Seems our local Exxon (Esso) is dropping their high octane from 92 to 91, in an attempt to clean up their sulfur content. Inside story is that they did not want to resort to MTBE to bring up the octane and instead went to some other additive which was only able to deliver a final reading of 91 instead of restoring the full 92. I wonder why they were resistant to using MTBE. :confused:
I understand California may be saddled with lower energy fuel to begin with, so that may influence your in-town mileage (ie. you have to use more throttle opening to get the same get-up-and-go as one would get in another state). Perhaps that's why you are able to see good highway numbers as well, since the engine isn't really required to generate all that much power during highway cruising.
Finally, factor in the hot climate and your A/C may be cycling more than in a more temperate climate. Again, not much drag when cruising on the highway, but it may be more noticeable in stop-and-go, and hence (again) more throttle opening and lower mileage.
Try in-town driving with OD-on, allowing early upshifts to 4th, and see what kind of mileage you get. I'm suspecting it will increase marginally, and you'll be within spitting distance of the rest of us, mileage-wise, considering the above California-specific limitations.
studio460
06-05-2003, 11:24 PM
SFMarauder--glad to know I'm not alone on this; sorry we're together on this.
TripleTransAm--your "indirect" explanation sounds pretty darn good. Makes sense. Makes a lotta sense. Thanks.
P.S. TTA--Isn't Mobil and Exxon the same company? Mobil stations in California have contained MTBE for some time now. I thought MTBE was added only to lower emissions--didn't know it affected octane rating.
P.S.P.S. By the way, I didn't buy the car to save on fuel. I drive it the way I drive it 'cause it's fun (albeit, pretty darn expensive fun during the war at $2.41/gal.!!!), and it's why I bought the car! I only got 12-13MPG on my 2000 Mustang, and it was only the V6!!!
TripleTransAm
06-06-2003, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by NBC Shooter
P.S. TTA--Isn't Mobil and Exxon the same company? Mobil stations in California have contained MTBE for some time now. I thought MTBE was added only to lower emissions--didn't know it affected octane rating.
P.S.P.S. By the way, I didn't buy the car to save on fuel. I drive it the way I drive it 'cause it's fun (albeit, pretty darn expensive fun during the war at $2.41/gal.!!!), and it's why I bought the car! I only got 12-13MPG on my 2000 Mustang, and it was only the V6!!!
Yeah, Exxon and Mobil seem to have the same parent company, but I guess in the states they may be operated separately (ie. Pontiac/Chev/Buick etc. all being part of GM).
I hear you on the Mustang V6. I've rented some 8 or 9 V6 Mustangs and they've ALL been pigs on gas. It got to the point I actually felt bad putting the gas bills for these rentals on my expense reports, they were so high. My brother (also works in the same company as myself) has seen the same behavior with the 4-5 Mustangs he's rented. It must be a case of the engine being ill-suited to the chassis.
In my case, I'm sacrificing a 35-39 mpg 1998 Honda Civic 4door EX for this 302 hp beast. If that doesn't show you how into this car I am, I don't know what else would!
I'll be happy with low low 20s MPG in 30%/70% city/highway, which is what I'm managing to pull off.
MMM2003
06-15-2003, 08:25 PM
For all you guys, that are out there looking for good gas mileage.
Good News!
Since the MM is my daily drive, I do car about descent gas mileage. Here is the best I have recorded so far:
25 MPG (Highway)
This was a 300mi stretch of Interstate (I90-I39-I57) on Saturday morning. Only had to stop twice for Tollboth and one rest area.
Did the stretch in 4 hours. Set the cruise to just above 75mph and let her ride.
RCSignals
06-15-2003, 08:49 PM
I read a while ago that the EPA has finally acknowledged that MTBE is making people sick, not necessarily doing what it was supposed to as an emissions additive, and it is being phased out
VaderSS
06-16-2003, 06:46 AM
I read a while ago that the EPA has finally acknowledged that MTBE is making people sick, not necessarily doing what it was supposed to as an emissions additive, and it is being phased out
Yeyas!
My car hates MTBE. My mileage drops from 24/17 to 18/13 when running MTBE "enhanced" gas.
russ in VA
06-24-2003, 09:55 PM
I've gotten 26.5 mpg trying to soft pedal it and this was all highway 65-75mph. My wife recently went on about a 250 mile trip (without me!) and drove 70mph. She says she broke 30 mpg! I don't believe it, at least not at 70. Maybe at 60. I think she just did a bad job of topping it up when she calculated.
Just a little background info on MPG and how speed efects it.... we sold my wife's 99 Corvette (6 speed) before buying the MM. The C5 had the factory trip computer including average MPG. Just for "kicks" I tried maxing out the fuel economy on a trip one day. A little background first, on any highway trip with the car in 6th and turning really lazy RPMS, you could do 75-80mph and get 30 mpg all day long. OK, so for my experiment on a flat road I reset the trip computer and held it at 75 for 20 miles and got 32 mpg. Then I reset it again and did 65 for the next 20 miles ... 37.5 mpg!!! I'm no proponent of low speed limits but slowing down really does save gas. Not that I'll ever do it again ;)
^^^good info Russ...I guess my only problem with it is.... you've obviously shared this with a LOT of people somewhere already who do 55-60 MPH on the 70MPH speed limit interstates down here...and did you by any chance mention that they get an extra .02367 MPG if they go the same :censor:ing speed as the car in the right lane...some sort of :censor: :censor: "drafting technique" :mad2:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
looking97233
06-25-2003, 09:40 PM
MTBE is bad. Contaminates the water. Makes people sick.
jgc61sr2002
06-26-2003, 08:46 PM
Russ - Excellent mileage.
SlvrBullet
06-28-2003, 09:02 AM
Just got back from Montery, CA and averaged a bit over 20mpg, except for one part of Montery proper, speeds were all 25mph, ran in 2nd gear because of the hills, went 45 miles on 5 gallons. :rasta: The vehicle is just a super-outstanding road car, just needs a few tweaks, like a faster steering ratio, and 5-speed automatic, then it would be perfect.
cyclone03
06-28-2003, 10:28 AM
I can't remember if I posted here or not on this,but in Mar.on a trip to CA I got 28mpg once. High 27's several times.
Now for the 11-12 some get,I wonder if the stop and go driving has a very high % of stop.
When I'm picking up my kids after school I wait with the A/C on for a total of 25mins at 2 schools,I got A/C and I use it!
Mileage hit is a solid 3mpg per week.I drop to 13-15 from 17-19.
Just something else to think about.
EasyRhino
06-28-2003, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by russ in VA
I've gotten 26.5 mpg trying to soft pedal it and this was all highway 65-75mph. My wife recently went on about a 250 mile trip (without me!) and drove 70mph. She says she broke 30 mpg! I don't believe it, at least not at 70. Maybe at 60. I think she just did a bad job of topping it up when she calculated.
I hear what you are saying. I cannot top 18 mpg in my Explorer, but my wife can get 22 mpg on the highway driving it. Must be a gender/hormonal thing
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