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Blackened300a
09-25-2006, 12:39 PM
Lets see who is the first to figure out what the cure for this problem was...

Saturday night I started my car and it ignited then stalled right away, I hit the key again and it fired up and once again stalled, Third time was the charm and it fired up and ran. Idled smoothly and drove normally the entire 15 mile trip home.
Yesterday, Hit the key, once again 3 tries to get it fired up and ran normally, idled smoothly.
This morning, I start the car to head to work and this time it fired on the second start but it was hesitating and popping for the first 1/4 mile then smoothed out and ran normally for the whole ride to work.
When I arrived at work, I shut it down and hit the key, and it took 2 attempts to get it running but when it did, it idled smooth and ran normal.
During all of these events, no check engine light came on and nothing out of the ordinary when it was running.
I found out what the issue was and fixed it this afternoon.

Anyone care to guess what it was??

Rider90
09-25-2006, 12:40 PM
Fuel Pump?

Blackened300a
09-25-2006, 12:41 PM
Fuel Pump?

inncorrect

Breadfan
09-25-2006, 12:42 PM
Iac?

... ...

Rider90
09-25-2006, 12:42 PM
Coil Pack?

RoyLPita
09-25-2006, 12:45 PM
Possible PATS key issue?

Bad alternator?

Grifter
09-25-2006, 12:49 PM
fuel pressure regualtor?

Blackened300a
09-25-2006, 12:58 PM
All incorrect

Bluerauder
09-25-2006, 01:00 PM
Lets see who is the first to figure out what the cure for this problem was...
Anyone care to guess what it was??

Gas cap :)

Marauderoz
09-25-2006, 01:00 PM
You cleaned the MAF conection.

Blackened300a
09-25-2006, 01:01 PM
still all incorrect

Alan
09-25-2006, 03:02 PM
Bad/kinked/shorted plug wire?

Rider90
09-25-2006, 03:02 PM
Bad/kinked/shorted plug wire?
lol........

Blackened300a
09-25-2006, 03:10 PM
Bad/kinked/shorted plug wire?

This is my marauder Im talking about :lol:

Dragcity
09-25-2006, 03:18 PM
Pcv... R&r...

ntrudr
09-25-2006, 03:40 PM
Crank position sensor (Does the 4.6 have an optical sensor??)

Blackened300a
09-25-2006, 03:44 PM
Still all incorrect!

I thought it was the IAC and I was prepared to replace it, but that definitly wasn't the issue

jdando
09-25-2006, 03:52 PM
pots relay or thing-a-ma-gig(The sensor that tells the car it is in park or nuetral).

jeremy

Alan
09-25-2006, 04:06 PM
lol........

Give me some credit! Someone HAD to say it! LOL

Okay...okay...my real guess: it's either the Johnson rod or piston recoil spring.
;)

Lots of good guesses but I don't have a clue at this point. I'll bet it's something simple.
Come on 300a! What is it?!?

jgc61sr2002
09-25-2006, 04:45 PM
Egr valve defective.

Fast4Door
09-25-2006, 04:54 PM
Air intake tube came loose from the throttle body.

kj31067
09-25-2006, 05:13 PM
c'mon ,i am on the edge of my seat as i have no clue , but i am curious to know the answer....

SergntMac
09-25-2006, 05:32 PM
c'mon ,i am on the edge of my seat as i have no clue , but i am curious to know the answer....NO!

Don't give it up too soon!

I'm having too much fun reliving my experience of owning 3 Marauders over 4 years. If it's something we should know, I should be able to remember it, find it on my mental hard drive...Not like that thread just posted where the seat got stuck positioned forward. That's odd, this I should know, or, recall?

"Still checking, please hold".

This is a lot more fun than bowling for Elves at Xmas...

kj31067
09-25-2006, 05:37 PM
NO!

Don't give it up too soon!

I'm having too much fun reliving my experience of owning 3 Marauders over 4 years. If it's something we should know, I should be able to remember it, find it on my mental hard drive...Not like that thread just posted where the seat got stuck positioned forward. That's odd, this I should know, or, recall?

"Still checking, please hold".

This is a lot more fun than bowling for Elves at Xmas...


c'mon mac.....think

MM03MOK
09-25-2006, 05:39 PM
CAI filter had a mouse living in it or it was stuffed with leaves?

jdando
09-25-2006, 05:46 PM
Do I get a second guess???

Some sort of tranny issue. Low ATF, low pressure.

jeremy

kj31067
09-25-2006, 05:46 PM
i m thinkin' something electrical and very minor.......

David Morton
09-25-2006, 05:50 PM
You're that guy that we had service writers screening calls for back when I used to work in the business. Part of the reason I don't even like telling people what I retired from doing. Half the time I get, "Hey, my car does this...(5 minutes later) ...can you tell me what it is?"

I'd have started with the battery, checked the condition of the various ground cables and especially the positive cable there. Then check the voltage of the battery.

Was it the battery?

BTW Alan. Your "Johnson rod" is already showing signs of wear. You're taking too much Viagra. Also, the piston recoil spring, as everybody knows, is an accessory found only on lesbians' cars.

kj31067
09-25-2006, 05:53 PM
BTW Alan. Your "Johnson rod" is already showing signs of wear. You're taking too much Viagra. Also, the piston recoil spring, as everybody knows, is an accessory found only on lesbians' cars.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
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BK_GrandMarquis
09-25-2006, 06:00 PM
Loose connector on the alternator?

How specific do we need to be?

whoskal
09-25-2006, 06:01 PM
popped a spark plug/spark plug wire?

Pat
09-25-2006, 08:31 PM
Cold start thingy had a wire or hose off, or a potato in the exhaust pipe.

Mard
09-25-2006, 08:37 PM
Bad fuel filter?

Alan
09-26-2006, 04:14 AM
BTW Alan. Your "Johnson rod" is already showing signs of wear. You're taking too much Viagra. Also, the piston recoil spring, as everybody knows, is an accessory found only on lesbians' cars.

That right there is funny stuff!
:lol:

BigCars4Ever
09-26-2006, 04:57 AM
The infamous chafed wire harness syndrome?

cyclopsram
09-26-2006, 05:08 AM
The symtoms all fit the Idle Air Control Valve behaving badly, but IAC appeared in one of the answers already...so maybe rats in the air cleaner...or bad gas

sabtaj1
09-26-2006, 05:27 AM
Operator error?

Drewstang
09-26-2006, 05:40 AM
Low fuel? I also think it sounds like IAC.

SergntMac
09-26-2006, 06:15 AM
Too many keys on your key ring?

KillJoy
09-26-2006, 06:16 AM
Non-Premium Fuel?

KillJoy

SID210SA
09-26-2006, 07:55 AM
The Tires werent inflated properly.....

Breadfan
09-26-2006, 07:59 AM
Parking too close to a secret Government in-human tracking-chip data receiver station?

alarmguy
09-26-2006, 08:36 AM
loose muffler bearing?

quota
09-26-2006, 09:12 AM
Maybe you were close to the bottom with you fuel level ?

Bluerauder
09-26-2006, 10:50 AM
1. O2 sensor
2. Replacement Spark Plug (new part number)
3. Aired out your engine compartment after hosing it down (water in connectors)

Wags
09-26-2006, 12:23 PM
Were you parked on an incline?

Dragcity
09-26-2006, 12:36 PM
H2o in the Petrol....

Add 1 container dry gas to the fuel tank???

Blackened300a
09-26-2006, 01:58 PM
Very interesting answers, some very hysterical! However this answer is the closest so there for we have a winner!

Air intake tube came loose from the throttle body.

The Metco tube, at least mine anyways seems to be just a inch too short on the bottom half and it popped out of the rubber boot connected to the MAF, but it was close enough to pull air through the MAF so it didnt set a code. Im sure under a cold start, the engine had no clue what kind if air it was pulling in and made it stumble and stall, til I got going, then Im assuming the computer compensated for the air intake or lack of.

Thanks for playing and hopefully if this happens to you, you'll remember it can be something as stupid as a loose intake tube.

SergntMac
09-26-2006, 04:51 PM
In all fairness, the correct answer was suggested in post #21. Perhaps it's a bit off the mark because it said "from throttle body", but this will have the same effect as getting loose from the MAF. Air path leakage, does it matter from which end of the bellows?

After that, others moved on to offer additional suggestions, but F4D's answer is good enough to be a win, IMHO, and he earns my kuddos.
Air intake tube came loose from the throttle body.

Fast4Door
09-26-2006, 07:26 PM
Woo-Hoo!

This came from some experience with my then girlfriend's (now wife) Mitsubishi Conquest way back in 1989!

The darn thing would start just fine, then as soon as you gave it some throttle it would stall. Took forever to notice that the tube was loose. She had just had a transmissin replacement (I don't work on Mitsubishis) and all the engine rocking around had pulled the tube off. At rest it would "seal up" then as soon as the engine rocked, it would come apart and stall.

MM03MOK
09-26-2006, 07:43 PM
Honest Injun! That was going to be my answer, but Jerry posted it first. :2thumbs: