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RubberCtyRauder
04-28-2014, 08:53 PM
I live in Ohio too..And I drove to Mo's Speed Shop with my present Marauder in Sept. of 2012 for updates..and now I just bought a Trilogy equipped Marauder from MN and had it transported to Mo's Speed Shop so they can update the tune, tweak this and that etc. So that is two Marauders for me that has seen Mo's shop. I envy the members that live down there. Read those messages from Chris and Roger. Marty and the shop are excellent at providing what you want and advising you based on interests, budget etc. They don't just take your money. They give you the most bang for your dollar. There are too many horror stories as of late, about DR's practices overall..It's not just one isolated instance.

Finally
06-07-2014, 11:08 PM
After the whole read I am still confused,first I think 300a and than something else pops up and I switch to 300B,I have the small spare,auto E-Brake disengage,electric gas lid,dot matrix on the windshield and it seems as if these things could go on the A or B.
My brain hurts going to bed now

Tony

Invader
06-08-2014, 09:11 AM
It's easy... The first 1500 are A's and everything else is a B! :P

fastblackmerc
06-09-2014, 06:58 AM
It's easy... The first 1500 are A's and everything else is a B! :P

It's not that easy as some B's had A features. It depended on what A parts were left in the bins.

Invader
06-09-2014, 07:00 AM
It's not that easy as some B's had A features. It depended on what A parts were left in the bins.


I know, I was just being a smarty! :laugh:

PuntyMario
06-09-2014, 07:31 AM
After the whole read I am still confused,first I think 300a and than something else pops up and I switch to 300B,I have the small spare,auto E-Brake disengage,electric gas lid,dot matrix on the windshield and it seems as if these things could go on the A or B.
My brain hurts going to bed now

Tony

Shouldnt it be easy to figure out? A's have the whole deal if youre missing anything that an A is supposed to have then its a 300B

GreekGod
06-09-2014, 08:11 AM
Shouldnt it be easy to figure out? A's have the whole deal if youre missing anything that an A is supposed to have then its a 300B

My MM was the 54th made, and does not have a space-saver spare. I suspect vendor supply problems may have dictated production content at different times.

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cruzer
06-09-2014, 04:35 PM
When they transitioned from 300A to 300B they used up some 300a parts. Each of the 14 are different--- shift lever shafts/ surround-- windshields---seats with pockets-- remote fuel doors -- clock in panel. --- under hood lights etc. Mine has everything a 300A had-- on the window sticker it shows traction control as standard equipment -- and I have a donut spare. MartyO has one I know. Don't remember who had the others It is shown on the window sticker as a 300B. Oh yes, they were all black produced in Oct 2002. Maury

Invader
06-09-2014, 06:36 PM
First 1500, I'm telling ya...

Invader
06-09-2014, 06:40 PM
The first run for the Marauder was a total count of 1500. After that, more options came available to help boost sales.

cruzer
06-09-2014, 09:55 PM
I bought this car new. At one time I could tell you who had the cars. These cars were built over the Oct Nov. 2002 I have also discussed this with Steve Babcock and he confirmed. That's how I know----I was there. My membership # is 92. Let's put this thing to bed once and for all. Maury

GreekGod
06-10-2014, 08:05 AM
... These cars were built over the Oct Nov. 2002 ...
My MM was the 54th built, and the only MM built in April of 2002

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GreekGod
06-10-2014, 08:20 AM
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Bluerauder
06-10-2014, 08:53 AM
My MM was the 54th made, and does not have a space-saver spare. I suspect vendor supply problems may have dictated production content at different times.

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My MM was the 54th built, and the only MM built in April of 2002

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http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/MMDecal_003.JPG

I think you are talking a different issue than cruzer/Maury. Your car was built in April 2002 and was part of the original 300A production. Hence your low #54 build number. 300A's got the full size spare. The donut spare showed up in the 300B in the October-November 2002 timeframe. Your car also has the remote gas release, front map seat pockets and the center dash mounted clock.

What Maury is saying is that in the changeover from 300A to 300B in October 2002, there were some cars that got a mix of A-B features .... and a handful used other parts such as the chrome shifter surround. Only about 12 of those cars came through until the supply of parts for the 300B were back on line. As Maury said, Martyo has one of those 12 changeover cars (I remember that thread too, Maury !!)

There is no confusion ... you are both right ... but on different points. :D

jwibbity
06-10-2014, 08:58 AM
my question is why does everybody care so much which version they have, IMO if you dont have the 1st or last marauder built your isnt more special then the next one....

GreekGod
06-10-2014, 09:02 AM
my question is why does everybody care so much which version they have, IMO if you dont have the 1st or last marauder built your isnt more special then the next one....

Since mine was the only one built in April of 2002, it's value is doubled!!! ... one of one!!!

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jwibbity
06-10-2014, 09:30 AM
Since mine was the only one built in April of 2002, it's value is doubled!!! ... one of one!!!

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i guess that counts too :P:P

TP Derrick D
06-10-2014, 02:04 PM
Having or not having a full size spare don't mean anything in determining A or B model. I sold my full size spare from my totaled car to a guy with a Marauder that didn't have a spare or he had a donut and wanted a full size spare. So if he had a 300B without full size does anyone looking in his trunk now say he has a 300A because he has a full size spare? If I bought a Marauder without the full size I'd try to find a full size somewhere or get a rim and buy a tire.

Invader
06-10-2014, 02:13 PM
Another way to tell the difference is if you have a GM vin # or a MM vin # all 300A should have a GM vin # unless I'm wrong. Which would not surprise me...

Bluerauder
06-10-2014, 02:50 PM
Another way to tell the difference is if you have a GM vin # or a MM vin # all 300A should have a GM vin # unless I'm wrong. Which would not surprise me...

All 2003 MMs whether 300A or 300B had the Grand Marquis "M75" in their VIN. It was the "V" engine code that distinguished the 4.6L DOHC engine of the Mercury Marauder. That includes both the 300A and 300B for the 2003 model. VIN doesn't help in the A-B discussion at all.

The Marauder unique VIN "M79" was introduced with the 2004 Mercury Marauder also with the "V" engine code. BTW -- all 2004 MMs are 300As (but with the features of the 300B from 2003).


Having or not having a full size spare don't mean anything in determining A or B model.

You are correct if the owner is not one of the original owners who bought the car new. Some of these cars have changed hands several times in the past 10+ years and may have replaced the spare. If you know what you are looking for, you can determine whether it is a 300A or 300B without looking in the trunk anyway. It is very easy .... don't know why some folks seem to have difficulty figuring this out. :rolleyes:

TP Derrick D
06-10-2014, 08:17 PM
All 2003 MMs whether 300A or 300B had the Grand Marquis "M75" in their VIN. It was the "V" engine code that distinguished the 4.6L DOHC engine of the Mercury Marauder. That includes both the 300A and 300B for the 2003 model. VIN doesn't help in the A-B discussion at all.

The Marauder unique VIN "M79" was introduced with the 2004 Mercury Marauder also with the "V" engine code. BTW -- all 2004 MMs are 300As (but with the features of the 300B from 2003).



You are correct if the owner is not one of the original owners who bought the car new. Some of these cars have changed hands several times in the past 10+ years and may have replaced the spare. If you know what you are looking for, you can determine whether it is a 300A or 300B without looking in the trunk anyway. It is very easy .... don't know why some folks seem to have difficulty figuring this out. :rolleyes:
yeah, I know the difference, but it seems this discussion always seems to have the spare tire included. While its may be the way the car left the factory, like you said many cars have changed owners several times and spare tires have been added or disappeared some on the car itself so I use the interior features to let me know.
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4508990821.html

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PuntyMario
06-11-2014, 02:54 PM
my question is why does everybody care so much which version they have, IMO if you dont have the 1st or last marauder built your isnt more special then the next one....

i beg to differ. thanks to there being 300A and 300B it has somewhat made a tier list. to a collector for example hes probably gonna want the 300A as it had the whole deal. it is the first batch of production models. may not be the first but it can be one of the first.

Invader
06-12-2014, 03:53 PM
Another difference in the 300A and 300B is the cover that holds the driver side floor light. 300A has the cover. 300B has no cover and just a bracket to hold the light.

Speed Racer
06-24-2014, 04:24 PM
How many 03 300A cars were produced? I'm sure this topic has been covered a million times, but I can't find the number.

Bluerauder
06-24-2014, 04:52 PM
How many 03 300A cars were produced? I'm sure this topic has been covered a million times, but I can't find the number.


how many of the 7093 black 03's were 300A cars?

Member "2003_MM_FYRE49" has one of the 300A/300B changeover cars that had a mix of A/B features and was built on 11/11/2002. His sequence number was 5,945 of 7,839 in the 2003 model year.

So, it is pretty safe to assume that ABOUT 5,500 of the first year's production run were 300As.

Can anyone get a closer number than that ?? :dunno:

EricGrain
06-09-2016, 12:30 PM
Member "2003_MM_FYRE49" has one of the 300A/300B changeover cars that had a mix of A/B features and was built on 11/11/2002. His sequence number was 5,945 of 7,839 in the 2003 model year.

So, it is pretty safe to assume that ABOUT 5,500 of the first year's production run were 300As.

Can anyone get a closer number than that ?? :dunno:

Reviving this thread only because my car is a 300a, number 664422, built 2002, December 11th. My car is Canadian, so traction control of course, but I have the trunk organizer, mini spare, NO separate clock, and I have a dot matrix windscreen

Bluerauder
06-09-2016, 01:35 PM
Reviving this thread only because my car is a 300a, number 664422, built 2002, December 11th. My car is Canadian, so traction control of course, but I have the trunk organizer, mini spare, NO separate clock, and I have a dot matrix windscreen


You have a 300eh !! ................ Actually, it sounds like you have a 300B based on build date and features. The Trunk Organizer was an option and is not factored into the 300A vs. 300B discussion.

junior
06-09-2016, 01:50 PM
You have a 300eh !!

I don't care who you are, but that right thar is funny.:D

Shinker
02-05-2017, 01:24 PM
Another Canadian Marauder here. Read this entire thread (great info for new owners, been 2 months for me) and think I've got a 300A or maybe pre-decontented change-over model
#650840 October 02 and has the following :
In dash clock
Heated mirrors
Grills over rear speakers
Small spare tire
Electric fuel door release
Black valve covers
Front seat pockets
Hood light
Tinted windshield
Long overhead console
Black shifter with no chrome surround
Driver's side floor lite has a plastic cover
Black interior and exterior
Traction control
Canadian instrument cluster

MERCURY 2003LSE
02-05-2017, 02:28 PM
Another Canadian Marauder here. Read this entire thread (great info for new owners, been 2 months for me) and think I've got a 300A or maybe pre-decontented change-over model
#650840 October 02 and has the following :
In dash clock
Heated mirrors
Grills over rear speakers
Small spare tire
Electric fuel door release
Black valve covers
Front seat pockets
Hood light
Tinted windshield
Long overhead console
Black shifter with no chrome surround
Driver's side floor lite has a plastic cover
Black interior and exterior
Traction control
Canadian instrument cluster

Yes it is a 300A :beer:
You can run your VIN at Ford ETIS site >>>> http://www.etis.ford.com/home.do

Chris@Lentech
07-20-2017, 09:48 AM
Appears mine was built 25th Oct 2002.
Canadian KPH car
Dot matrix windshield
Map pockets
Traction control
mini spare
underhood light
in dash clock
electric fuel door