Aftermarket hood?

[MMpridenjoy]

I am just curious here how many of you would spring for a new hood with maybe a slight cowl in it or something like that. Granted, it is hard to say without seeing one...but, how many would at least entertain the thought?

[Menace]

Maybe. Nice sig.

[MI2QWK4U]

I would do it if a reputable company were to do it. I emailed Cervini's to see if they would look into it. Cervinis is a well known and respected producer of aftermarket hoods. I have had 2 of their fiberglass hoods on my Mustangs and they are good quality and truely bolt on.
https://www.cervinis.com/welcome.html

[MMpridenjoy]

Thanks menace. Yes they make really nice stuff. Have a friend with a notch back that ordered some stuff from them. Hope they email you back with some positive news. I guess these companies will not R&D, then produce something like this unless they are sure there will be some kind of demand for this. That is why people have to speak up if they would be interested.

[darebren]

i would. if under $800, that seems about fair.

[Billatpro]

I would be a player

[MI2QWK4U]

If you guys get 5.0 Mustangs and Super Fords magazine, Cervinis has adds in every issue. This month the add shows Cobra, GT, Tbird hoods that range from $299 to $399. For that I would buy one.....

[merc406]

Or you can add a cowl to the hood you already have, Jegs, Summit have them

[MI2QWK4U]

I was just at summits web site...didnt see it...do you know the part number?

[Bigdogjim]

Hey if I change hoods does that mean I can stuff the 5.4 under there?

[merc406]

Summit's part # is HRD-1103, for the 2and 1/2" cowl scoop
HRD-1114, for the 4" outlaw Z
HRD-1107, " " "
HRD-1116, " " 6" Pro Outlaw

[Dave Compson]

I would do it.

[Patrick]

I was thinking about same thing!!!! Just torn about keeping her as stock as possible and doing sum fun stuff! If I could see pics that might sway me!! So much we could do with this car its SCARRRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[studio460]

Definitely. Cowl. Yes. A fiberglas/rubber air dam would be also awesome to smooth out our non-aerodynamic front ends. Hey, what the heck--full aero packages with bat wings and NASCAR fins!

[Tweety]

How bout a functional ram air hood

[MMpridenjoy]

functional ram air hood would be the hot ticket....would waste no time in buying one of those...

[Constable]

i think i'd be partial to a short cowl hood (maybe 1.5") with louvered vents on each side... similar to what the early-90's Grand Prix GTP's had. I always thought louvers were trick.

[Racerx88]

No Chevy scoops for me, I've been thinking about adding a scoop from a late model Mustang.

Looks like we need some Photoshop work here, anybody wanna try some of these ideas?

[merc406]

Their was a photoshop picture somewhere here, if you saw it you'd change your mind on the cowl lookin scoop.

[darebren]

I'd go for a Trans-Am type hood. The pig nose look.

[Dr Caleb]

Originally posted by Racerx88

Looks like we need some Photoshop work here, anybody wanna try some of these ideas?

Here's a couple mock ups. Rough ones. Only on the Blue MM, and with a 2003 Mach 1 scoop. It was easiest to transform. They look OK
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[MAD-3R]

I like that...

[Dr Caleb]

Originally posted by darebren
I'd go for a Trans-Am type hood. The pig nose look.
And the shaker scoop only... ...
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[merc406]

Doc, the center section neds to be blacked out with a 1/4 inch blackout stripe around the edges, kinda like the Torino CJ's of the 70 era. Shakers Rule, but the cowl scoop look is inline for the 4dr.

[merc406]

Oh and the hood holddown pins on the edges would go good.

[Racerx88]

After seeing those mockups (thanks Dr. Caleb!) that's exactly the look I want. Sorry, still don't like the look of a Chevy scoop on my big Merc.

[RF Overlord]

I like Dr. Caleb's second pic...with the scoop only...it DOES look kinda like an old Torino CJ... or early 70's Mustang...

[Bigdogjim]

Second one looks real good.

[MMpridenjoy]

Oh mannn, the first photo looking like a mach1 beast is AWESOME! This is the stylin I am talking about. Nice pick! Hmmmm..........

[jgc61sr2002]

Dr Caleb - The hoods look like factory equipment. Very nice.:up:

[Dr Caleb]

Thanks everyone - I'll try a couple other variations when I get home. Perhaps a Black and Silver MM.
Sorry Merc406, 1/4" stripes are already there, just really hard to see as I had to reduce the photo to get under the file size limit. As well, the car I pulled them off was Red, and the colour change drowned out the stripes more...
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[Billatpro]

Now that would look very right on a BLACK car!

[DLoreanMARAUDER]

I'd be game! that would look HOT and go good with my new factory spoiler. I think it will set the car off just right (enought so no one thinks its a grand marquis). I always wondered if the 5.4 was too big to fit, why didnt they just put on a cowl like that. oh well. NICE photoshop work, looks authentic:up:

[Patrick]

Cant wait to see how it look on Black MM!!!!!!! Great work!!:beer: Is there no end to this BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[studio460]

Caleb:

Nice work. Hope someone makes one now. Did you forward any of these mock-ups to any manufacturers? They'd have my order in a New York minute!

[merc406]

The shakers are for sale now as new pieces from an aftermarket producer, I cannot remember the name, but TNN's Trucks did one on a F-150 last year.

[Dr Caleb]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dr Caleb

Here's the Silver MM with a shaker...
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[Constable]

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[Constable]

I was at my local Ford dealer today and saw this cheesey Ranger Thunderbolt for sale. I did like the hood scoop, though. It's fairly low profile and appears to be a good length/width. The pic doesn't really do it justice. I am currently working on getting a part number from StreetLegalPerformance in Toms River, NJ. They provide all the ricey hop-ups for the truck.
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/features/thunderbolt/images/thumbs/2.jpg

[darebren]

I'm thinking about getting hood pins anyway, but the distance from the grille opening to the pin location would be pretty long, and the rubber coated cables would flap against the paint at speeds. maybe??

[Constable]

update: SLP mustang style hood scoop : part #11414, price 129.00

[darebren]

Is anybody thinking about cutting a hole in their hood to install an aftermarket scoop? to me that seems like it would not look good, would not look polished and finished. I was looking for a full aftermarket hood with scoop. fiberglass preferably.

Let's say we get 10 orders, would somebody contact a company and see what they would do? The F150 has alot of cool hoods with nice cowls and scoops, some with dual triangle shaped scoops

[Racerx88]

Originally posted by Constable
update: SLP mustang style hood scoop : part #11414, price 129.00

That's exactly the scoop I've been considering. It's available from several different vendors besides SLP. All for about that same price.

[Constable]

i didnt measure it out, but this scoop just looked bigger (width & length, not height) than the mustang take-off. I'm gonna shoot down to SLP on thursday and set one on top of my hood just to see how it might look... I'll snap some photos and post them for everybody.

[Ross]

Pardon my ignorance here (as usual), but with the air intake up front, would a hood scoop do anything besides look cool? I agree that adding a cool look is worth something, but I'm wondering if there is any functional value to a scoop, when the air intake is nowhere near the air that is entering the scoop. Also, what is the purpose of a shaker?

[MAD-3R]

The air is duct to the airbox as a cold air/ram air effect.

[Ross]

I can understand the cold air/ram air principle, but if the air intake is up front, like ours are, and the hood scoop is back toward the rear of the hood, wouldn't you need a long, twisted duct to get the air from the scoop back up front to the intake?

[MAD-3R]

The air flows into the scoop, then down and under the body of the scoop where, depending on the style, it Flows into ducting built into the hood on custom pieces, or through a streght piece to the side of the airbox.

http://www.classicdesignconcepts.com/tech_center/newshakerinst9.jpg

[Ross]

OK, so the hood scoop is only the exterior part of the system, you also need to have some ducting under the hood to deliver the extra air from the scoop to the intake? That starts to make more sense. But I still wonder why a shaker instead of a fixed scoop? What does "shaking" of the scoop accomplish? Also, a really stupid question, since the hood scoop is exposed to the weather, wouldn't you get more rain coming in through the scoop than through the under hood intake?

[MAD-3R]

The Shaker scoop is attached to the engine, and therefor "shakes" with the torque from the motor, while hood Mounted scoops just well, sit on the hood.

As for rain, the underside of the shaker body has drain tubes, and there is a tube to mount in the airbox.

The differance, performance wise between the shacker vs. hood scoops is non existance. It's pure "cool" factor.

Sitting at a light, slip the tranny into nutural and rev the motor hard a couple of times... Shacking. :lol:
the older pushrod motors generated LOTS of torque that moved the engines, makeing the engine mounted scoop shake.

I've been looking at this latley, and have been "enginering" it in my mind.

[Ross]

Cool. So, the ram air/cold air effect of a scoop (whether fixed or shaker) should actually give some degree of added power? It would be great to have a bolt on mod that not only looked way cool, but actually added some seat of the pants HP.

[MAD-3R]

remember 1 and 2 are degrees... :)

Not sue on the amount of power it would generate, and would be hard to calculate due to the fact that Dynos can't measure the bennies that the Ram portion give, and the cold air part would only be a couple. The big bennifit would be in the WOT runs at dragstips/stoplight grand prix. With the engine hot, but the air comming in Cold, VROOM!!

[SergntMac]

Originally posted by MAD-3R
remember 1 and 2 are degrees... :) Not sue on the amount of power it would generate, and would be hard to calculate due to the fact that Dynos can't measure the bennies that the Ram portion give, and the cold air part would only be a couple. The big bennifit would be in the WOT runs at dragstips/stoplight grand prix. With the engine hot, but the air comming in Cold, VROOM!!

Exactly. The minor power differences we see here stem from different cold air paths. The MM has the larger air box, scoop and related plumbing over the Mach 1. The Mach 1 gets more fresh air into the system, but still takes a hit from the smaller air box and jerky route the air travels. Measure twice, cut once, the difference here is minor, and allows just slightly better numbers to be published for the Mach 1...IMHO.

[the fat bastid]

like you said, i heard the shaker was barely functional...adding little. and the +15 hp that the f-bodies clam from thier ram air is only at massive speeds and doesnt factor into regular driving.

just some tidbits. i dont know.

[merc406]

Cowl, Shaker, Air Scoop,-- hey go retro with a 4" Teardrop.

[Constable]

From all the reviews I've read, The Mach 1 shaker and the WS6 RamAir systems really come alive at 60-70 mph and above. This may not be anything slick for the everyday driver, but when running the 1320... it sounds as if it should be a good help. Figure you're pulling 100 mph through the traps. This is just my twisted logic talking though, it usually doesn't match with real world situations.

[Bowman9]

Here's a sight that has all kinds of hoods and scoops.

link here (http://64.227.236.137/miva/merchant.mv?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CarHoods&Product_Code=%23++GHS-GM1)

http://64.227.236.137/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CarHoods&Product_Code=%23++GHS-GM1

I think this one might look alright on a Marauder.
It looks like the scoop would match up nicely with lines of the hood.
Even though it is meant for a Chevy truck. (Hell our hoods are probably longer than a truck hood anyway)


http://www.carhoods.com/GoodHoods/T_HoodScoops/ghs-gm1.jpg

Just an idea

[gdmjoe]

FWIW - You may want to get on Mark Ray's ( Zeus Automotive (http://www.zeusautomotive.com/main.htm) ) hood interested-parties list; talked to him at the Charlotte, NC AutoFair and he indicated that one should be available soon.

As he described the hood, it will be similar to the Saleen Mustang hood; a fiberglass, gel-coated, direct-bolt-on with cooling vents indented in the front section.

[Bowman9]

Just curious...
has anyone had any luck finding/making an aftermarket hoodscoop, shakerscoop, or hood?
If so please share pics.
The salavage yards might have a wrecked Mach1 to get parts from, just a thought.

[screamdennis]

That second hood scoop looks great , i have access to a shaker hood scoop ,off a 69 mustang coupe that came with a 429 in it , sadly the stang has gone by the wayside many years ago .
the ram air with the shaker hood scoop would look good in my eyes , what do you guys think ?

[AFSP13]

I would do it .

[Bowman9]

screamdennis:
The photoshop pics earlier in the post of a shakerhood do look good.
You might want to find a second hood at salavge yard to cut a hole in, that way if you don't like the look you could put your original hood back on. And if your lucky you might find the right color hood you need.

[screamdennis]

thats a good idea , i would hate to cut a hole in my hood and not like how it looks . the corba jet shaker scoop sure looked great on the mustang , i will have to think about this for a while ,could just set it up as a non functional unit ( just for looks )

[schuvwj]

Question: If you did not route the hood opening to the engine intake, could there be a benefit running the cool air past those hot cylinders 7 and 8?

[SergntMac]

'03 Mach 1 shaker hood scoops 1 are available from

http://www.karkraft.com/ram_air.htm

Personally, I think they are too small for the real estate of the MM hood, but that's just IMHO.

[LincMercLover]

^ditto^

It'd have to be some sort of fabricated ram-air type hood. No shaker...

[studio460]

Originally posted by Constable
update: SLP mustang style hood scoop : part #11414, price 129.00
I LIKE that scoop, Constable. Did you get one and try it yet? If it fits at all, I'm going to get one. Searched internet for it and couldn't find the part/vendor anywhere--could you post the vendor's site address where this is sold? Thanks!

[Bowman9]

I like the idea of making a functional hoodscoop / shakerscoop.
But there is not a lot of space under the hood.

I can find plastic tubing and I can cut a hole in my hood and in my airbox, but what would I use to collect the air coming in from the hoodscoop?

And what about water/snow getting in?
Would I have to make a drainage hole in the air box or somewhere else?
And I am guessing you would have to replace the flat air filter with a cone design to keep crap out.
Hell while I'm at it, I should add a "torando" to help with the air flow :)