Clean-Up Timeslip Pages

[Glenn]

The Timeslips page has been on our website for about 3 years. I think it is a great way to post our 1/4 mile times, but the pages could use some housekeeping. Many timeslip posts are several years old and are from former members who have not had any posts for a year or more and not involved in the net or some even no longer have a Marauder. I would like to suggest some simple understandings:

No timeslip posts over a year old (older timeslips could be moved to an Archive page).
Posts must be from reasonably active members (i.e. at least some posting in the past several months or moved to Archive page).
All posting information must be complete (including HP and timeslips) or the posting will not register.Some simple suggestions for comment. Of course, any housekeeping would have to be done by the Net Administration, but we can voice our opinion on the above suggestions to improve the Timeslip pages. Hopefully, if we have enough consensus the Administration would agree to support them.

Glenn

[sailsmen]

My suggestion is unless you have the timeslip you should not post.

It is too easy for a seller to tell you they ran X in the car and a week latter the new owner goes to post and does not understand/or correctly remeber what the seller said.

[HwyCruiser]

The Timeslips page has been on our website for about 3 years. I think it is a great way to post our 1/4 mile times, but the pages could use some housekeeping. Many timeslip posts are several years old and are from former members who have not had any posts for a year or more and not involved in the net or some even no longer have a Marauder. I would like to suggest some simple understandings:

No timeslip posts over a year old (older timeslips could be moved to an Archive page).
Posts must be from reasonably active members (i.e. at least some posting in the past several months or moved to Archive page).
All posting information must be complete (including HP and timeslips) or the posting will not register.Some simple suggestions for comment. Of course, any housekeeping would have to be done by the Net Administration, but we can voice our opinion on the above suggestions to improve the Timeslip pages. Hopefully, if we have enough consensus the Administration would agree to support them.

Glenn

Those seem like reasonable rules, even though the one year mandatory retirement would effect my timeslip entry since it's a year and two weeks old. I have a more recent timeslip from racing this spring on a blown differential which would kick me to page two, but I could live with it until next spring rolled around. This would of course mean that more than a few above and below me would also be retired per the timeslip date. Take a look at the posted timeslips (if they show up at all)?


My suggestion is unless you have the timeslip you should not post.

It is too easy for a seller to tell you they ran X in the car and a week latter the new owner goes to post and does not understand/or correctly remeber what the seller said.

+1, especially when the said individual's actual results were far from what was posted on a vague recollection of what the previous owner told him. Is honest misunderstanding of when the timeslip database is meant for or where the data is drawn from, or could it be gross disrespect to those who post factual information?

I agree that at a minimum, a scan timeslip should be required for any entry in the timeslip database.

[duhtroll]

Here we go again.

[merc]

I have no horse power numbers or a time slip. I guess this post is directed at some like me. :rasta:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/2/3/8/1229timeslip.jpg

Ok, this is the timeslip but I don't have dyno numbers so my best guess is 400-425

[DEFYANT]

No flames guys, but since some cars like Lidios and BillyGmans have been sold to members on the board, they could be the time slip page twice. Tyrone Minto has Lidios car. The same car is at #3 and #8

I suggest once the car leaves the member, that entry sould be modified or deleted.

HP should only be an option, not mandatory. Some racers do not want the world to know what the HP of the car is. There is nothing wrong with that.

I do not like the one year maximum on the slips entry. Simply because some of us may not want to run the car at the track every year. I for one am probably going to cut back at the track after this year. Auto cross baby!

[Tyrone Minto]

For those that have retired, or sold their Marauder, it is still a good benchmark and might be nice to put it in itallics. I would hate to think we would remove Lidios milestone. Why the time limit on the run as long as the member is active?

[DEFYANT]

For those that have retired, or sold their Marauder, it is still a good benchmark and might be nice to put it in itallics. I would hate to think we would remove Lidios milestone. Why the time limit on the run as long as the member is active?

Better put! Thanks.

+1

[Tyrone Minto]

Administrator:
Please delete uncle Ty's Marauder as this was posted by my very excited nephew when I let him drive the car at the strip. I have since bettered this time.
Charlie is right on

[FordNut]

All valid arguments, but I believe the last go-round the guidelines which were decided on were:
1. Marauders only
2. Top 10 require timeslip, others timeslip is optional

I'm one of the slackers on updating the timeslip too. I moved up about .2 sec but the scanned timeslip was not legible so I just left the old one posted.

[Tyrone Minto]

I have a time slip for #8 but don't have a way to post it, I will see if I can get a little help

[HwyCruiser]

...I do not like the one year maximum on the slips entry....

Says Mr. Expired Timeslip guy.






:D

I know, you've got recent 11-second timeslips, but I've got no beef with mandatory retirement. It's surprising how many would fit this category.

Also, I agree on sold cars. Zack will probably blow BillyGman's timeslip away pretty quickly once he get's to tinkering anyway - so why keep two slips on the same car? Let the active racers have their glory and let the old horses fade away. This isn't a grave site.

[DEFYANT]

Says Mr. Expired Timeslip guy.






:D

I know, you've got recent 11-second timeslips, but I've got no beef with mandatory retirement. It's surprising how many would fit this category.

Also, I agree on sold cars. Zack will probably blow BillyGman's timeslip away pretty quickly once he get's to tinkering anyway - so why keep two slips on the same car? Let the active racers have their glory and let the old horses fade away. This isn't a grave site.

Dam skippy buddy! :P

Thats ok, cuz I got an 11.99 just waiting to take it's place if it gets bumped :lol:

[David Morton]

Why? What's the point? Come on boys, are we members of a club or gladiators in an arena?

Let the person looking at the page judge for himself. A guy says his runs 10.637 because what, he has a timeslip that proves it? How so? I could hang out at the track and ask some guy for his discarded 10.253 timeslip on say, a Mustang, and take top slot anyday. All I have to do is scan it into the system and voila', I'm number one. You gonna solve that by demanding registration records too? Let's have one of the administrators cross check the dates before posting, and while they're at it blow everything up and look for evidence of a photoshop. Right. (BTW Glenn. I looked at your timeslip and it looks mighty suspicious. But I'm willing to take you at your word. Hmm. But you are 25th now and I haven't looked at the guys ahead of you. Maybe we ought to take a closer look at their timeslips, eh? And how do we KNOW they didn't use some Mustangs' timeslip?)

Now MartyO's video of his 10.637 is pretty good evidence, so if you're wanting proof positive demand a video of the performance. Otherwise, let's just be civilized about this and take the person for their word.

Oh, and last time I looked, records are records. That guy from Australia that holds the speed record on water (320+ MPH) is still listed as the record holder and that's been standing for thirty some-odd years. My guess is nobody is asking to remove it because he hasn't been active. Probably why he still alive today is the fact that he isn't active. And what if MartyO sells his Marauder and the guy that buys it tweaks out a 10.537 with better tires or tune or anything? Does it mean Martys' record didn't happen? Or the new guys efforts don't count?

And another thing, the timeslips page IS an archive. Why make another archive for "old" records? All records are old.

I asked, and J.D. Powers & Associates says this question of "better evidence" on the timeslips page rates 95% on the wienie meter. :lol:

[AstroVic]

I asked, and J.D. Powers & Associates says this question of "better evidence" on the timeslips page rates 95% on the wienie meter.

Agreed 110%.

[DEFYANT]

Ok David I get your point.

So is the Timeslip page about the member can do in a Marauder, or how fast a perticular Marauder is?

Personally, I think listings on the timeslip page should represent the fastest time attained by the driver and the car. If a car is sold, keep the record in italics.

[HwyCruiser]

OK, since us "wienies" might want some basic of fact on the timeslips database, how 'bout this? Have somewhere in the profile listing the method used to determine 1/4 mile time:

1) Timeslip from an actual track*
2) G-Meter or similar acceleration measuring device
3) Online ET calculator
4) A stop-watch and odometer
5) The one-Mississippi, two-Mississippi, three-Mississippi and yonder tree

*timeslip may or may not be for this particular car

:lol:

[duhtroll]

A good idea. vvvv

I have no interest in spending time tracking down a scanner. My information is there and unless I do more mods, will probably not change for the near future. So if we have a time limit mine will probably be deleted.

I don't personally care, as unlike some I don't have anything to prove to the membership at large. If people say that because I didn't scan a timeslip I don't have valid #s, then so be it. It won't bother me.

There are other sites on which to post timeslips w/o scan should that become the requirement here.




OK, since us "wienies" might want some basic of fact on the timeslips database, how 'bout this? Have somewhere in the profile listing the method used to determine 1/4 mile time:

1) Timeslip from an actual track*
2) G-Meter or similar acceleration measuring device
3) Online ET calculator
4) A stop-watch and odometer
5) The one-Mississippi, two-Mississippi, three-Mississippi and yonder tree

*timeslip may or may not be for this particular car

:lol:

[Marauderman]

Ok David I get your point.

So is the Timeslip page about the member can do in a Marauder, or how fast a perticular Marauder is?

Personally, I think listings on the timeslip page should represent the fastest time attained by the driver and the car. If a car is sold, keep the record in italics.

I agree with Charlie ^^^^^^^...the time slip is time dated --so it is effectively the latest on that car by that driver until the driver updates it--and he surely won't do that until the slip gets better-so let them stay where they are--until then....It was begun as an "honor" system " and I feel it should stay as such---it will soon be found out if anyone is fudging anyway from call outs at the track or elswhere anyway---so why would you want to do that(fudge)--so I again say --leave it as is. .......my .02C's......Tom

[stumpy]

If someone runs a record setting MPH or ET then it stands until someone beats it. I don't understand the point of expiring time slips. Why would a years lapse in time suddenly change the fact that it happened?

If you want a better time slip page, add more details including suspension, tires and wheels, race weight, weather, technique, etc. This way, people can learn from the information and hopefully improve upon those that went before them.

[MarauderTJA]

If a car is sold, keep the record in italics.

I agree^^^.

[Glenn]

My intent was just to suggest some simple housekeeping of the Timeslips pages for the active net members. There are timeslips from people who no longer even own MM and have not posted on the net for much longer then a year. I do not believe their postings should be retained. Not much we can do without the Administrations help anyway.

Glenn

[Cobra25]

Ok David I get your point.


If a car is sold, keep the record in italics. I Agree with Tom & Charlie also.

[mpearce]

No timeslip posts over a year old (older timeslips could be moved to an Archive page).

Why?

Some people might not mod their car for a year or two, but are still worthy of having a timeslip in the "database".

-Mat

[2ndMDRebel]

1. Marauders only

How about a Crown Vic with an identity crisis? :D

[Joe Walsh]

How about a Crown Vic with an identity crisis? :D

Yeah, BUT It has the 'HEART' of a Marauder!...:banana2:

[MarauderMark]

Yeah, BUT It has the 'HEART' of a Marauder!...:banana2:

So it's half -n- half.Then he can only post 1/2 of the timeslip or 1/8 quarter times.:lol:

[KillJoy]

Here's MY opinion:

No expiration
No HP needed
Slip Required for Top 10 (everyone else is optional)

Didn't some of the top guys have others driving their cars when their slips were gotten? It doesn't really matter to me....it is THEIR car.

If the car is sold.....it needs to be removed from the list, or put into Italics....something to show that it is not longer owned by that person. Otherwise....Owner 1 could run a 11.2, sell it, and Owner 2 could run an 11.22 and so on. There would be a lot of duplicate times....all with the same car, but different owners.

But....whatever....I don't even have a time :(

KillJoy