Failed Inspection

[grimmace]

Hi,

I went to get an inspection this weekend and it failed. I have the lidio tune and flashed it back to the factory settings for the inspection. It failed for 2 reasons...one was the catalyst was not ready..i forgot what the other one was...my guess is that i have to drive it a certain amount of miles for the computer to reset?...anyone know how many miles that would be...i drove it 40 miles and brought it back and it failed again.

Thanks,

Gary

[AstroVic]

From what I understand (and that isn't saying much!), there is no *set* amount of mileage for the computer to reset.

I believe you have to drive so many miles at X speed, then so many miles at Y speed, etc., for the computer to reset itself.

What state are you in? Would the car fail with the Lidio tune installed on it?

(I can't imagine it would fail just because of the tune!)

[grimmace]

i'm in new york....i thought it would fail with the tune so i switched it...i should have left it...

[AstroVic]

Here in Texas, they do the smog inspections (for certain high population counties) with an OBD-II style scanning computer. They just plug it in and go to town on it.

If the car is older, then they do the "sniffer" test.

In either case, the guys at the inspection place always tell people to drive their car good and hard just prior to brining it in. Supposedly this helps make the evap and emissions stuff work more efficiently.

Perhaps you might opt to spend a few bucks on fresh spark plugs, PCV, etc., to see if this helps you out.

Just a few thoughts for you.

[RedMerc04]

i'm in new york....i thought it would fail with the tune so i switched it...i should have left it...
Im in NY also and I just got inspected yesterday and I left my tune alone. The car passed.

[ezratty]

are you getting the inspection with the machine that puts the car on rollers and the mechanic drives at different speeds or is this the inspection where they just tap into the obdII port and run a diagnostic check. The rolling inspection is horrible and unrelliable. Thats why NYS is eliminating them.

[RF Overlord]

i thought it would fail with the tune so i switched it...i should have left it...Exactly.

I have a Lidio tune in my car and it passes with no trouble at all...(in MA)

[JMan]

grimmace,
If there is any long, uphill grades near you, take the car over and drive up it. You could almost use cruise control to do it. The Ford catalyst monitor likes to run under a long, partially loaded, pull - like driving uphill while maintaining speed! That may help. You can check codes with your tuner (I presume) afterwards to see if the code P1000 has gone away and there are no other codes present. If so, take it back to the inspection station/garage. If not, don't bother, it hasn't run and passed yet.

Best luck,

J

[Dennis Reinhart]

Hi,

I went to get an inspection this weekend and it failed. I have the lidio tune and flashed it back to the factory settings for the inspection. It failed for 2 reasons...one was the catalyst was not ready..i forgot what the other one was...my guess is that i have to drive it a certain amount of miles for the computer to reset?...anyone know how many miles that would be...i drove it 40 miles and brought it back and it failed again.

Thanks,

Gary

Once the car is back to stock that should be it, you can dissconect the Battery for one full minute and that should clear any thing and then the car will relearn a new stratagy as you drive it.

[mtnh]

Your owner's manual tells you how to do the system readiness sequence, and goes into great detail as to how you need to drive the car to satisfy all required conditions. If you just reflashed, just reset codes, or did a power disconnect to clear a MIL condition, you just shot yourself in the foot if you head straight to the inspection station. Read the bottom paragraph of this link to see an official statement to this effect. I had also understood that you had to have 10 cold startup to complete warmup cycles logged in order to not look like you're covering something up like a recent MIL illumination.

http://www.des.state.nh.us/factsheets/ard/ard-30.htm

[grimmace]

well my inspection doesn't expire until the 19th so i have some time....i'll try again this weekend..hopefully a week of driving will be enough

[Bigdogjim]

Don't feel bad I failed in Pa. then moved to New Jersey and failed again:mad:

Check engine light on Pa., Dealer fixed:up: New Jersey, window tint :bs:

In Pa. no inspection=no drive.

New Jersey gives you 45 days to fix it:)

[fastblackmerc]

In N.C. you have to drive at least 100 miles after clearing the code(s) from the computer or reset the computer.

[BK_GrandMarquis]

I'm from NJ and passed with a tune installed. They just plugged into the OBD II port.

I was worried about passing too but nothing bad was reported. :)

[Blackened300a]

I have had the same problem as you when I went for my first inspection, I put my stock tune in the morning of my inspection, I recieved the same message you did,
I re-installed my performance tune and drove the car for 3 days, returned to the inspection place and passed without issue.
This year I didnt touch anything and my car passed fine with the tune installed.
Drive around for a little while and try again, there shouldnt be any issues.

[jgc61sr2002]

Im in NY also and I just got inspected yesterday and I left my tune alone. The car passed.


Is the upstate inspection saftey only?

The downstate inspections also do the emissions.

[MENINBLK]

Anything north of Putnam and Orange county is Safety only.
South of these counties is Emissions and Safety.

[CRUZTAKER]

Grimmace...you still did not answer someone else's question....

Was your car merely plugged into and examined....or was it dynoed and sniffed?

In Ohio, they plug in.
I just did mine last month.
It won't fail with a tune.....


Once the car is back to stock that should be it, you can dissconect the Battery for one full minute and that should clear any thing and then the car will relearn a new stratagy as you drive it.

Exactly. Pull the battery cable for 15 minutes to clear all codes.

BUT!!! IT SHOULDN'T BE THROWING CODES IF THE TUNE WAS...ERR...REALLY TUNED. ;)

[rayjay]

Is the upstate inspection saftey only?

The downstate inspections also do the emissions.

The whole state is now emissions and safety, emissions via OBDII. I left my tune in and she passed no problem in July.

[jabo731]

Cruztaker they plug it in here too. I haven't had a stock tune since the first few months the car was new. I think Grimmace made a mistake by changing the tune before he went for inspection. It would have passed with the tune.

[grimmace]

they just plug it in....no dyno....any car newer than 95 just has to be plugged in by me i believe

[Blackened300a]

they just plug it in....no dyno....any car newer than 95 just has to be plugged in by me i believe

Newer then 2001. Just drive the car a day or two and return to the inspection place, you shouldnt have any issues

[RedMerc04]

Is the upstate inspection saftey only?

The downstate inspections also do the emissions.
Yeah I had my buddy do the inspection, It passed the emissions no problem via the plug in to the OBD port. And it didnt just pass because I know the guy. I asked him about this new emissions test via the cars computer and he said that cars 96 and newer get it in nys. Im not 100% sure if he is right but it seems to be.

[Black_Noise]

in iowa the last 3 vehicle's ive owned have had no mufflers, cold air intakes, and extreamly bright lights (i dont know if that matters) and we have no inspections at all, if it runs, get some plates on it and go, go, go!!

[AstroVic]

in iowa ... we have no inspections at all, if it runs, get some plates on it and go, go, go!!

That's because Iowa needs you to hurry up and get to the farm fields to cut some corn. Plus, in a pinch, your Marauder could be converted into a combine. ;)

(Sorry, I grew up in Nebraska. Just had to tease a fellow Midwesterner.)

[Drock96Marquis]

The car needs to complete a full 30min OBDII driving cycle before the system not-ready 'code' clears.


This consisits of:
Not starting the vehilce for 8 hours, then;
First: 10minutes of highway/freeway driving
Next: at least 20mins of stop and go city-type driving, with at least 4 idle periods

The engine must reach normal operating temps during this. Also, do not shut the car off during the cycle.

Kindof a PITA, but this is the exact Ford procedure to 'ready' the OBDII diagnositc system. It will probably just be easier to drive normally for a few days.

Next time leave the tune on, you'll be fine. If you decide to flash it back, make sure it is a few days before.

[CRUZTAKER]

The car needs to complete a full 30min OBDII driving cycle before the system not-ready 'code' clears.


This consisits of:
Not starting the vehilce for 8 hours, then;
First: 10minutes of highway/freeway driving
Next: at least 20mins of stop and go city-type driving, with at least 4 idle periods.

Mine had not been driven in nearly two months...traveled 6.1 miles to the testing station, which included two WOTs, one burnout, one left turn, four right turns, one model confusion, and two compliments.

It passed.

Oh yeah...the N20 was armed as well. ;)

:dunno:

[ezratty]

in NYS '96 and newer vehicles just get the OBDII inspection, older vehicles still get the rolling test and if you are over 20 or 25 years (i think) it is just a visual inspection for $10, I owned a '66 mustang convertible and that was the cheapest thing that car ever needed

[Dragcity]

Yeah, My '65 T-Bird get the old lights test and tire kick....

Emmisions from it will kill you in 5 minutes flat!

[Drock96Marquis]

Mine had not been driven in nearly two months...traveled 6.1 miles to the testing station, which included two WOTs, one burnout, one left turn, four right turns, one model confusion, and two compliments.

It passed.

Oh yeah...the N20 was armed as well. ;)

:dunno:



The car only needs to complete the OBDII driving cycle if the PCM KAM has been reset (ie battery disconnect, reflash, etc.)

It can sit for a year if you want, so long as the battery had not been disconnected, it is still 'ready'

[wchain]

Drock96 is correct. And hte OBD-II Drive cycle is complete, well, when its complete. I have seen it done in 5 miles, I've seen it done in 50 miles. Depends on how sensitive the PCM is.

[grimmace]

the car passed this weekend....i drove it about 120 miles in a weeks time and it passed..forgot how awful the stock tune was....switched back to lidio's tune right after the inspection

Gary