What do you guys in the cold do....

[KillJoy]

...with your boosted MM?

I am VERY leary of driving my MM when the oil to cold. And I hate letting it idle for a period to get it up to a decent temperature.

Just wondering how you guys deal with the cold on a daily basis.

KillJoy

[RR|Suki]

...with your boosted MM?

I am VERY leary of driving my MM when the oil to cold. And I hate letting it idle for a period to get it up to a decent temperature.

Just wondering how you guys deal with the cold on a daily basis.

KillJoy

what's wrong with letting it lidle up to temp?? I would recomend definately idling to temp so as not to have too thick of oil running through the blower as it spins up... Either way I drive mine everyday I can I usualy use my oil pressure as a gguide, I wait atleast until I'm at about 40 or so psi at idle, and I watch my scangauge and wait till water temp is above 120. Then I drive off and take it easy until everything it optimal. I cannot drive it if it gets too bold becasue I'm not supposed to start it below ambient 25F as per paxton. However otherwise it's not a big deal, if you have a blower with it's own oil in the case like the T kit or the Pro charger, you should be more than fine. Factory cars can be started and run with those types on the cars.

[KillJoy]

what's wrong with letting it lidle up to temp?? I would recomend definately idling to temp so as not to have too thick of oil running through the blower as it spins up... Either way I drive mine everyday I can I usualy use my oil pressure as a gguide, I wait atleast until I'm at about 40 or so psi at idle, and I watch my scangauge and wait till water temp is above 120. Then I drive off and take it easy until everything it optimal. I cannot drive it if it gets too bold becasue I'm not supposed to start it below ambient 25F as per paxton. However otherwise it's not a big deal, if you have a blower with it's own oil in the case like the T kit or the Pro charger, you should be more than fine. Factory cars can be started and run with those types on the cars.

Because the other day it was 3*. It would have taken 20-30 mins at idle to get up to operating temp.

KillJoy

[RR|Suki]

Because the other day it was 3*. It would have taken 20-30 mins at idle to get up to operating temp.

KillJoy

WOW are you serious?? maybe get your car checked... mine takes about 10 minutes 15 tops at those temps to get to where I stated above I would move it, and once I put it in drive, once I get down to te end of the street all is well:confused:

[KillJoy]

I am just guessing. I ended up taking the Grand Am. I let it warm up a min or two, then was off.

I am just wondering what all every one does. I would hate to have a blower failure due to poor oil circulation.

KillJoy

[RR|Suki]

I am just guessing. I ended up taking the Grand Am. I let it warm up a min or two, then was off.

I am just wondering what all every one does. I would hate to have a blower failure due to poor oil circulation.

KillJoy
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all the manufacturers probably have a temp that is the lowest you should start your car at. Paxton says 25F for mine. I would go with what they (your company) says; as far as warmness if you have the pressure gauge what I do has worked for my car, it usually keeps the pressure to about 60psi on the throttle goin down the street (a good pounce on the throttle sees 50 or more anyway at normal temps) also the stock water temp gauge doesn't move till 150f so get a scangauge cuz 120 is plenty good, and the time from 120-160^ is very short when you put her in drive and go. Worked for me so far and like I say I fdrive everyday I can. Rain snow blizzard ice-storm whatever it may be. That's been my experience, I dunno how many other people have oil fed blowers that are daily driven in the cold. I know there are quite alot of T guys but they are self contained

[KillJoy]

I know there are quite alot of T guys but they are self contained

I did not know this.

KillJoy

[Bigdogjim]

For what it is worth on any car you should not drive over 35MPH till it is at operating temp per your dash gauge.

[Marauder2005]

Off topic, but how do you like the 4:10s Killjoy?

[KillJoy]

Off topic, but how do you like the 4:10s Killjoy?

I have not yet installed them :(

They are sitting in the garage awaiting me to get off my duff.

It will probably not be until Spring / warmer weather at this point.

KillJoy

[Bradley G]

I rarely let the car warm up.
I keep RPM's 2500, no higher, till the temp needle comes up.

[MarauderMark]

I rarely let the car warm up.
I keep RPM's 2500, no higher, till the temp needle comes up.

Yeah me to but no more than 2k as specified by Vortech , but only if in a hurry.But most of the time i wait till shes at operating temp.Then shes starts looking for killz.:burn::D

[Haggis]

...with your boosted MM?

I am VERY leary of driving my MM when the oil to cold. And I hate letting it idle for a period to get it up to a decent temperature.

Just wondering how you guys deal with the cold on a daily basis.

KillJoy

Keep the car in a heated garage. Then it never gets too cold to start.

[Marauderjack]

My ProCharger is self contained and uses a "Zero Weight" aircraft synthetic oil. They recommend not exceeding 2500 RPM's (25,000 impeller RPM's) until the engine is up to temp??:rolleyes:

Of course we only see 20* temps a few times a year here and I guess single digit temps might make things a bit different??:shake:

When the car is covered with frost I let it warm up enough to clear the windshield and off I go!!:beer:

Marauderjack:burnout:

[jdando]

My car is a daily driver in MN. I let it warm up and drive just like a "normal" car.

Speculation mode from here on........

I am guessing the Roots blower turn lower rpm and have a self contained oil system so they may have less "constraints" during a very cold start.

End speculation...


Last winter my car sat at the airport for three days and it was -10F when I returned. It started just fine and I drove off slowly after about a minute of warm up. I seldom wait more than a minute before driving, unless I have to clean a ton of snow off the car.

jeremy

[snowbird]

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In the peak of winter: I start the car and wait between 1 minute to 3 minutes at the most. I've got eight gauges to enjoy watching but cannot wait until some of them looks OK because spring will come along sooner. I go very gently and slowly ==> feather throttle below 1800 rpm. It will take at least 3-4 miles to barely see the water needle moving (still in the cold) and the same amount to see the oil pressure quit hitting 100 PSI. The trans temp is a lot longer. When i say feather, i really mean feather.<o:p></o:p>
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I NEVER ask anything more than 1800 -2000 rpm for the first 5-10 miles and of course no boost ==> vacuum only to 8- 10 inches. It's enough to keep in traffic with imports. Never had any problems. I use boost when all needle think it is summer (10-15 miles ) and only 0 to 5 pounds. With cold 16" winter tires and artic asphalt temperature I will enjoy enjoy salmon behaviour upstream a river anyway which can be tricky to keep the car on the road.<o:p></o:p>

[Joe Walsh]

I am always suprised at how much LONGER it takes for the engine oil temperature to reach normal range vs the water temperature.
Before I installed both Autometer Oil & Water temp. gauges I thought that once the water temperature was up to normal, the oil temperature was now normal also....WRONG!

[CRUZTAKER]

STEVO...get a block heater, blanket......or start heating that room you call a garage.:P

[usafsniper]

Hmm, I'm still riding the bike at 3*...but then I never get up to operating temperature on it either...


Because the other day it was 3*. It would have taken 20-30 mins at idle to get up to operating temp.

KillJoy

[Vortech347]

Vortech says specficly not to run they're blowers in lower than 20* temps. However my dads been taking his car to his condo in Park City and has been driving it in 5* weather. Am I scared? YES VERY. But then again its got 5w-20 full synth going through it.

The vortech on my stang sounds like crap being in my garage untill it warms up. About 50* in there.

Prochargers have their own oil right? Maybe its rated to go lower?

[RR|Suki]

The vortech on my stang sounds like crap being in my garage untill it warms up. About 50* in there.


I have noticed the sound difference too when she be cold... sounds more pissed off than usual

[sailsmen]

It's rarely cold here. The temp guage is an idiot lite.

I look at the op and fp at idle and do not get into boost until they indicate she nis warmed up wether it's cold or hot.

[SamF]

Is there a minimum recommended starting temperature for the Trilogy set up?

[Vortech347]

Is there a minimum recommended starting temperature for the Trilogy set up?

I doubt it. Its OEM based stuff. Its pretty tough...

[Aren Jay]

Living in western Canada you are always driving when it is cold out or you are not driving. Except both summer month (July and August). Normally in winter you wait till the steering wheel can be touched without freezing your fingers to it. Then you go. When it is -35 you can't wait long enough for the car to warm up to drive. Also it is illegal to sit in your car and wait with the enigne running, you can wait 5 minutes or so but then you have to turn it off or start driving. They recommend waiting no more than 1 or 2 minutes as the car will warm up faster when it is moving. Just drive slow, but it if is cold it is likely snowy so you will be driving slow anyway. If it is snowing then the warm up time is how long it takes you to start the car and wipe the snow off & or scrape the ice off, then defrost your fingers.

They, the police, give tickets if they see you idling your car.

So I wonder if a Super Charger is worth it up here?

[sailsmen]

It is illegal to sit in car w/ engine running? I think u need to start throughing tea over board.

After Katrina I spent 12 or so nites in the Marauder w/ engine running. U see the same of big rigs at every truck stop.

[O's Fan Rich]

I park it in the garage and drive the Lincoln LS.

[fastcar]

This seems like an easy problem to resolve. Years back folks in North Country often used an Engine Block Heater. It's a filament that goes into one of your engine block's freeze core plugs. It has a pigtail with a receptacle on the end - you just plug it into an extension cord. In the morning you simply unplug the heater, and drive off.

One of my friends years back who was a Mustang owner said he NEVER idled his cars up to temp, because he feeling was that only by driving them could EVERYTHING get up to temp properly, e.g. transmission, rearend, axle bearings, brakes, etc. He said just because water temp in engine is hot, some folks will just take it out and start thrashing it - it's not fair on the other components. I thought this was a pretty good point...

However, I think it would be a very good idea for your blower to keep the engine oil heated, then drive off immediately, but baby it until water temp normalizes. My 2 cents,

fastcar:burnout:

[Aren Jay]

Engine block heaters are standard in Canada. But will it work with a Super Charger?

I guess some people always wonder why each parking spot has a plug and everyone has their cars plugged in. Didn't know it would keep the oil warm though.