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bigslim

12-31-2006, 08:18 PM

I know what Marty is trying to say.

If I clear my cookies I have no problem zipping through the site. If I log with my user name it goes very slow or not at all.

I have yet to see any of the administrators answer this question. Btw, it is not just the two of us but quite a few others having this problem.

If I'm going to be blocked or inconvience then please send me back the remaining money I have contributed.

DefyantExWife

12-31-2006, 08:19 PM

Hi Marty,

I had the same exact thing today. Then poof... it was back to normal.

It wasnt affecting Charlie's lap top in the other room, and when I did finally get through to the site, I got a message that "searching" for anything was no longer an option.

But yet at the same exact moment, Charlie's lap top, like I said, had nothing of the sort. :cool4: My snafu lasted a minimum of 8 hours. I tried to check on the site in the morning, then painted all day, and tried again around 6 pm.

In any case... I think I saw Mark start a thread about Ebay. Gots to check it out. Hopefully its not about car stuff :rolleyes: :D

RCSignals

12-31-2006, 08:32 PM

It makes it a pain in the azz for the particular user to log on.

It makes it a pain in the azz for the particular user to log on.

Earlier today I opened a new window and used it to start mm.net. It gave me a screen that said I had to log in.
I closed the window and started a separate Tab to open mm.net, and mm.net came right up without having to log in. Does that mean I was 'blocked purposely' for 1 or 2 minutes?
I don't think so.

I've been admin/mod on a few boards and i've never seen an option to just make 'logging in difficult' for some users. You can Bann using a few methods, but that's it.

Again, this is more of the same of what has been going on lately with certain people. Hysteria, paranoia, and Chicken little syndrome.
'Somethings wrong, must he mm.net against me.'

gonzo50

12-31-2006, 08:34 PM

If I'm going to be blocked or inconvience then please send me back the remaining money I have contributed.

According to your member status, your dues have expired......you only have stars minus the flags by your avatar. :confused:

martyo

12-31-2006, 09:54 PM

Again, this is more of the same of what has been going on lately with certain people. Hysteria, paranoia, and Chicken little syndrome.
'Somethings wrong, must he mm.net against me.'

Duncan: I don't have a problem with you so I hope you won't be offended when I tell you I don't think you know what you are talking about.

Meanwhile 220 posts, a few hours later and not a word from an admin in this thread. Hmmmmm.....

Smokie

12-31-2006, 10:07 PM

There is a rumor being floated that some of us (me included) were flagged so that we would purposely have trouble logging on.

I contacted one of the admins and was thereafter immediately able to get on line.

I asked privately (twice) what the deal was on whether the rumor was true and got no response to my inquiry.

So, admins, what's up?

Marty why anyone would want to block a cool guy like you is totally beyond me....say it ain't so.:D

Happy New Year big guy.:beer:

AstroVic

12-31-2006, 10:10 PM

I've been admin/mod on a few boards and i've never seen an option to just make 'logging in difficult' for some users. You can Bann using a few methods, but that's it.

Don't think it's possible, eh?

Look here (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=121886) and you'll see that you're completely wrong.

Not only is it possible, but it seems incredibly LIKELY that this is exactly what's been going on.

Why is it that only the MCM.com guys seem to be having this problem and nobody else? But, then again, seeing as how most of the owners of this site spend half their day trolling around MCM.com, maybe it's not all that surprising after all.

And why is it that nobody (owner/admin) on this site has bothered to issue a reply to Marty's question? He wasn't being rude about it. In fact, nobody's been rude about it. The people on MCM.com, who are the apparent targets of these shenanigans, haven't even been rude about it. They're baffled by the situation, but that's about as far as it goes.

Marty simply asked a question and the people in the know on this site apparently don't seem to want to respond.

:down:

Marauder386

12-31-2006, 10:28 PM

I just tried myself to come on to the site...would have had to log on, but closed window, kicked in my TCP optimizer, rebooted and came back to the site as normally happens...I dunno what to say. I didnt think about it until I read this thread...

8)

FordNut

12-31-2006, 10:29 PM

I haven't had a problem lately, but I was having similar issues a couple of weeks ago. I found that opening the command prompt window and issuing this command:

ipconfig /flushdns

fixed it for me.

merc

12-31-2006, 10:42 PM

I haven't had a problem lately, but I was having similar issues a couple of weeks ago. I found that opening the command prompt window and issuing this command:

ipconfig /flushdns

fixed it for me.

I guess the Unix version is

kill -s admin 123

ALF

12-31-2006, 10:58 PM

No problems from anywhere on earth

sailsmen

12-31-2006, 11:08 PM

silver_2000

01-01-2007, 12:07 AM

I don't know any of the personalities here but I can address a few of the questions here.

About a month ago we switched servers - That may have resulted in some of you needing to flush dns as was mentioned. Our DNS and IP addresses didn't actually change BUT Flushing DNS couldn't hurt.

In the server switch I have implemented a VERY strict firewall - Its designed to keep all kinds of bad things off the server. Including brute force attacks, ddos attacks, malformed urls, and lots of other kinds of problems. The down side to any strict firewall is that you get a few false positives. There have been a few MM.net users who were blocked by the firewall. I have been informed of those problems and in response, I have tweaked the firewall settings to minimize the false positives even further.

The server has been running great since the upgrade and we have almost zero down time since the upgrade. If you are having trouble with the site first thing I would do is logoff and delete your browser cache and delete any MM cookies. If those things dont fix your problems, I would then look to spyware on your PC or a problem with your Internet connection. Universally agreed as the most common source of problems.

My $0.02

martyo

01-01-2007, 01:13 AM

No problems from anywhere on earth

See, now this is funny. If I recall correctly, this is a user ID associated with one of the admins and yet no reply under a true admin name.

Come on guys and gal, I have been a very long time contributing member (both on a content and financial level) I think I deserve a little more than this.

How 'bout it?

martyo

01-01-2007, 01:18 AM

I am sure the Amins are very busy.

To aswer this question requires time and research.

I can assure everyone there is no conspiracy and this is the best board out there.

I wouldn't go jumping to conclusions about things you are unfamiliar with.

I am sure the Admins are very busy and your questions will be answered as soon as all the research is complete.

See now ordinarily I would think this is funny, but here it just isn't and makes a bad reference to one of the things that has brought this site to its virtual knees.

Answer me this sailsmen, on what do you base your "assurance"? And, how can you be so sure that I am jumping to conclusions about things with which I am "unfamiliar"?

martyo

01-01-2007, 01:22 AM

C'mon admins, at least lie to me.

AstroVic

01-01-2007, 01:33 AM

The silence is deafening, Marty.

RCSignals

01-01-2007, 01:37 AM

Duncan: I don't have a problem with you so I hope you won't be offended when I tell you I don't think you know what you are talking about.

Meanwhile 220 posts, a few hours later and not a word from an admin in this thread. Hmmmmm.....

Marty, the Admins are obviously off partying in the New Year with all that raffle money.

I'm not offended at all, and have no problem with you.

You seem to suggest that you already know the answer to your own question.

and Marty, Happy New Year old fella.

RCSignals

01-01-2007, 01:38 AM

The silence is deafening, Marty.

read post #18

RCSignals

01-01-2007, 01:48 AM

Don't think it's possible, eh?

Look here (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=121886) and you'll see that you're completely wrong.

Not only is it possible, but it seems incredibly LIKELY that this is exactly what's been going on.

Why is it that only the MCM.com guys seem to be having this problem and nobody else? But, then again, seeing as how most of the owners of this site spend half their day trolling around MCM.com, maybe it's not all that surprising after all.

And why is it that nobody (owner/admin) on this site has bothered to issue a reply to Marty's question? He wasn't being rude about it. In fact, nobody's been rude about it. The people on MCM.com, who are the apparent targets of these shenanigans, haven't even been rude about it. They're baffled by the situation, but that's about as far as it goes.

Marty simply asked a question and the people in the know on this site apparently don't seem to want to respond.

:down:

It's a great idea for Boards, if you've ever had to administer one, but that is a hack, not a piece of regular board software, so no, I'm not completely wrong.

Do you have proof such a thing is being used here? or are you just reacting to the hysteria, paranoia and Chicken Little syndrome?

BruteForce

01-01-2007, 01:57 AM

Its designed to keep all kinds of bad things off the server. Including brute force attacks...

Thank you. I have noticed a considerable drop in flames in response to my posts. :D

RCSignals

01-01-2007, 02:11 AM

See, now this is funny. If I recall correctly, this is a user ID associated with one of the admins and yet no reply under a true admin name.

Come on guys and gal, I have been a very long time contributing member (both on a content and financial level) I think I deserve a little more than this.

How 'bout it?

I agree Marty. All of us long time contributing (both on a content and financial level) members need an answer.

Now that I know the background information that prompted your request, the issue is, is that is what is going on, or has there just been a suggestion of that hack having been applied, and if so, why has that suggestion been made?

If it is only a suggestion, then my premise of hysteria, paranoia, and Chicken Little syndrome is correct, or perhaps not deep enough.

If such a 'hack' has been applied, it was not in the best interest of anyone.

Mike Poore

01-01-2007, 04:13 AM

:coffee: Happy New Year! It's 5:59 AM on new year's day.

Marty posted his query at ~8PM New Year's eve. Football games galore, and perhaps the biggest day on earth for the internet, not to mention the parties, and you want nine people who are doing other things tonight to explain why you're having trouble getting onto this website ....any website?

I honestly don't know; but it happens to me all the time, so I just go away and upon returning it's magically fixed ...or not.

Many of our folks who visited MMV IV this fall had trouble getting on the site from Florida, including Mary. Sometimes it's our web guy doing stuff, sometime some guy in Russia hiccups, who knows, I just go away and come back later.

Meanwhile, since we're having this discussion, could anyone tell me why it takes so long to get anything done in our court system? :rofl:

Let's see how long it takes the sleepy heads to get up this morning and start posting. :sleepy: :geezer: O.F.'s excluded

MM2004

01-01-2007, 06:21 AM

This is unbelievable.

Will you guys please be more patient and a little less sarcastic?

Techical questions take time to investigate.

28 posts and 475 views in ~12 hours?

**Raises Coffee Mug** ;)

Mike.

BigMerc

01-01-2007, 06:32 AM

It's true, I saw 4 admins in a black helicopter flying low over my house no id numbers. I immediately placed my aluminum helmet on and started reading "Catcher in the Rye" as protection. It worked because they went away.

Now if I could just get rid of those pesky voices I'm always hearing.

BigMerc

01-01-2007, 06:34 AM

And don't trust RC Signals either , he was the pilot.

martyo

01-01-2007, 06:40 AM

martyo

01-01-2007, 06:43 AM

I agree Marty. All of us long time contributing (both on a content and financial level) members need an answer.

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FordNut

01-01-2007, 06:45 AM

...Now if I could just get rid of those pesky voices I'm always hearing.

And I was beginning to think it was all in my head...

martyo

01-01-2007, 06:53 AM

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Marty posted his query at ~8PM New Year's eve. Football games galore, and perhaps the biggest day on earth for the internet, not to mention the parties, and you want nine people who are doing other things tonight to explain why you're having trouble getting onto this website ....any website?

Mike: I first raised my question at around 4:00 p.m. and was able to gt on within seconds after being contacted by an admin. However, despite asking twice, in private, what the deal was, I have gotten no reply to my direct question.

Now, I have been around this site for four years now. I know a number of the admins pretty well. At least well enough to know that they are internet junkies just like me. So, it only stands to reason that they have seen this thread. And, like I said in an earlier post, I am pretty sure that the "ALF" member name is controlled by an admin, so at least one of them has been on line.

Well, in any event, I worked all day yesterday and pretty deep into the night. I will be working again most of today so hopefully I will get the courtesy of a reply at some point today.

And, if any of the members are bothered by this thread, remember it was posted to the admins and no you!

Happy New Year!! I am surprised I made it.

Bigdogjim

01-01-2007, 07:18 AM

There is a rumor being floated that some of us (me included) were flagged so that we would purposely have trouble logging on.
so, admins, what's up?

My answer is it is just that rumor. Anyone have an issue now?

martyo

01-01-2007, 07:27 AM

My answer is it is just that rumor. Anyone have an issue now?

Partly.

After you guys and gals have had a chance to research this, can you please explain why certain people had log in difficulties?

Hack Goby

01-01-2007, 07:34 AM

but that is a hack, not a piece of regular board software
Who called my name?:eek:

RCSignals

01-01-2007, 07:42 AM

It's always fun watching the guys in the yellow jackets work the crowd into a blind frenzy, then draw back into the shadows to watch their handy work.

RCSignals

01-01-2007, 07:49 AM

Partly.

After you guys and gals have had a chance to research this, can you please explain why certain people had log in difficulties?

and after we have that answer, can we get an answer why some people think this has been done specifically to harass them?

MarauderTJA

01-01-2007, 07:50 AM

a bad reference to one of the things that has brought this site to its virtual knees.

Marty, I really do not believe this statement is at all valid nor necessary. This type of statement just continues to inflame issues with certain members and fuels negative behavior. This is a holiday weekend.

Hope you have a Happy New Year:beer: .

martyo

01-01-2007, 07:54 AM

Marty, I really do not believe this statement is at all valid nor necessary. This type of statement just continues to inflame issues with certain members and fuels negative behavior. This is a holiday weekend.

Hope you have a Happy New Year:beer: .

Tom: I didn't make the reference. Someone else did.

And yes, a happy, healthy prosperoud New Year to all.

martyo

01-01-2007, 07:55 AM

It's always fun watching the guys in the yellow jackets work the crowd into a blind frenzy, then draw back into the shadows to watch their handy work.

Duncan: What is this directed at?

martyo

01-01-2007, 08:00 AM

and after we have that answer, can we get an answer why some people think this has been done specifically to harass them?

Without a doubt, yes.

MarauderTJA

01-01-2007, 08:02 AM

Tom: I didn't make the reference. Someone else did.

And yes, a happy, healthy prosperoud New Year to all.

Thanks Marty for the clarification.

martyo

01-01-2007, 08:10 AM

Thanks Marty for the clarification.

No problem. I am here to serve and protect.

sailsmen

01-01-2007, 09:07 AM

15 posts in 16 hours.

4 post before my post indicated to me that you had not been flagged. I have seen nothing in your posts on this board that would lead me to believe you should be "flagged".

I hope Admins are able to help you with your problem.

Bluerauder

01-01-2007, 09:32 AM

Mike: I first raised my question at around 4:00 p.m. and was able to gt on within seconds after being contacted by an admin. However, despite asking twice, in private, what the deal was, I have gotten no reply to my direct question.
Marty, I believe that you were answered directly back in post #18 ..... by the server administrator.

I don't know any of the personalities here but I can address a few of the questions here.

About a month ago we switched servers - That may have resulted in some of you needing to flush dns as was mentioned. Our DNS and IP addresses didn't actually change BUT Flushing DNS couldn't hurt.

In the server switch I have implemented a VERY strict firewall - Its designed to keep all kinds of bad things off the server. Including brute force attacks, ddos attacks, malformed urls, and lots of other kinds of problems. The down side to any strict firewall is that you get a few false positives. There have been a few MM.net users who were blocked by the firewall. I have been informed of those problems and in response, I have tweaked the firewall settings to minimize the false positives even further.

The server has been running great since the upgrade and we have almost zero down time since the upgrade. If you are having trouble with the site first thing I would do is logoff and delete your browser cache and delete any MM cookies. If those things dont fix your problems, I would then look to spyware on your PC or a problem with your Internet connection. Universally agreed as the most common source of problems.

My $0.02
FWIW .... I have also had problems in logging in about the time this upgrade kicked in. There were lots of "Page not Found" and DNS Server errors whether I was at home or at work. So, I don't really think that anyone has been targeted for anything. No conspiracy either. Since replacing my computer during the holidays with an upgrade, I have not experienced any more issues. The DNS flush might be the answer or check your virus/spyware security.

That's my :twocents:

greggash

01-01-2007, 10:08 AM

Ya Know......Just by looking at the posting times
you can see that some sort of sleep deprivation kicked in around 3:00 am

The Paranoia kicked in long before that (Some body do something they shouldn't have??)

You could practically watch some blood pressure rise....(For nothing)

lots to say....just not right here!

martyo

01-01-2007, 11:25 AM

That's my :twocents:

And, you get a full refund. That post (#18) talks about something that happened a month ago, not something that happened yesterday. So, I am reasonaby sure that that post was well-intended but off teh mark.

And, odder still no real reply from a mod. It's a shame.

Blackened300a

01-01-2007, 11:34 AM

Hey why not post a pic from a certain Muffler shop. That will get the Admins to break their silence!

martyo

01-01-2007, 11:41 AM

Hey why not post a pic from a certain Muffler shop. That will get the Admins to break their silence!

Althiugh I had considered it, I was trying to keep this on track.

Zack

01-01-2007, 01:41 PM

Ignore the nuissance(s) long enough and they will go away on their own.
Brilliant if you ask me.

The Big Stu

01-01-2007, 03:43 PM

I just saw this for the first time. I have had no problems with anything, and if the problems are "targeted" I can understand why...I am virtually invisible...as my number of posts would indicate. It does seem a little odd to me though that a practically unknown member would find and reply to this thread before the folks that were asked the question. Even if they posted some BS like "I apologise for the technical difficulties you have experianced, we are currently investigating the issues and will have an official response as soon as we discover the root of the problem" (with correct spelling of course) At least that would be something.

Where are you admins?

MarauderMark

01-01-2007, 03:50 PM

Thanks for a good thread to read.

MarauderTJA

01-01-2007, 04:14 PM

Honestly, I do not believe anyone has been "targeted." Least of those Marty. Give us all a break. Paleeeeeze.....Its like being paranoid:lol:

martyo

01-01-2007, 04:32 PM

Honestly, I do not believe anyone has been "targeted." Least of those Marty. Give us all a break. Paleeeeeze.....Its like being paranoid:lol:

Tom:

All this time and no serious admin reply. Do the math.

I know this isn't Court, but if I were in Court and I were asked a direct question several times I would have to answer it.

Now I take friendships even more seriously than Court. I asked those that are my friends to address a direct question both off and on-line. I will be honest here, I thought I was entitled to one and that has not happened.

Shame on you admins, shame on you.

MarauderTJA

01-01-2007, 04:42 PM

Tom:

All this time and no serious admin reply. Do the math.

I know this isn't Court, but if I were in Court and I were asked a direct question several times I would have to answer it.

Now I take friendships even more seriously than Court. I asked those that are my friends to address a direct question both off and on-line. I will be honest here, I thought I was entitled to one and that has not happened.

Shame on you admins, shame on you.

Marty an answer to your question is unquestionably deserved. And I am sure in time that you will receive one. No offense, but the evidence presented is questionable. I too have on occassion this weekend have had a couple of problems logging in here with my laptop. But eventually got on.

Admin, please answer Marty's question and put this issue to rest. Thank you.

MM2004

01-01-2007, 05:07 PM

Tom:

All this time and no serious admin reply. Do the math.

I know this isn't Court, but if I were in Court and I were asked a direct question several times I would have to answer it.

Now I take friendships even more seriously than Court. I asked those that are my friends to address a direct question both off and on-line. I will be honest here, I thought I was entitled to one and that has not happened.

Shame on you admins, shame on you.

Marty,

You are correct Sir,...

This is not a court of law.

Lawyers, Friends and Court do not co-exist. Do the math. ;)

At this point, we do not have an answer for you.

Your question has been addressed by our Server Admin. as well as Jim and myself.

There are many posts by you on this thread that would make one believe you haven't any logon issues.

Again, research takes time, and not everyone is available due to the holiday(s).

It has been one day since you inquired about connectivity issues.

I am confident you have more than one day to prepare for a court case, and to answer direct questions presented to you.

Ooops, we're not in court. :o

Thanks,

Mike.

martyo

01-01-2007, 05:44 PM

I surrender.

You guys are right. A select group did not have connectivity problems completely unrelated to the issues raised by the server admin (which relate to a problem a month or more ago that would not be faced now by daily posters/visitors).

Silly me.

In the words of the dearly departed Mac: "Carry on Gents, eh?"

gpfarrell

01-01-2007, 08:23 PM

Ignore the nuissance(s) long enough and they will go away on their own.
Brilliant if you ask me.

Couldn't we all learn from this.

Ironic source.

RCSignals

01-02-2007, 01:31 AM

Marty,

You are correct Sir,...

This is not a court of law.

Lawyers, Friends and Court do not co-exist. Do the math. ;)

At this point, we do not have an answer for you.

Your question has been addressed by our Server Admin. as well as Jim and myself.

There are many posts by you on this thread that would make one believe you haven't any logon issues.

Again, research takes time, and not everyone is available due to the holiday(s).

It has been one day since you inquired about connectivity issues.

I am confident you have more than one day to prepare for a court case, and to answer direct questions presented to you.

Ooops, we're not in court. :o

Thanks,

Mike.

Yes, but what Marty really wants to know is, has the "Miserable Users" hack cited been installed and employed here in the last few days, or are some people just hysteric, paranoid, and suffering from 'Chicken Little syndrome' ?

RCSignals

01-02-2007, 01:36 AM

Duncan: What is this directed at?

Marty, I'm surprised you wouldn't know, but it is directed at goings on over the last while here, and elsewhere.

martyo

01-02-2007, 04:08 AM

Yes, but what Marty really wants to know is, has the "Miserable Users" hack cited been installed and employed here in the last few days, or are some people just hysteric, paranoid, and suffering from 'Chicken Little syndrome' ?

Duncan: It couldn't have been any clearer here or in the e-mails I sent what I wanted to know. The admins just don't want to answer a direct question. Period. Full Stop.

The silence in that regard speaks volumes.

RCSignals

01-02-2007, 01:08 PM

You're being a Lawyer in court again Marty. You ant a simple yes or no answer. Reading over the thread again it looks like a no answer has been given, in so many words other than no.

The real question that needs to be asked is, What has transpired here?

You've been around here for a long time, and know what has happened in the past.
The sale of mm.net was not the sudden start of 'over moderation'.
That cry existed here for as long as mm.net has existed. Logan was probably more heavy handed with the buttons than the current owners have been.

A hand has been played here for sure, but it isn't one that hasn't been played by a few before. This time the 'guys in yellow jackets' have done their job well. The result has been the realisation of the dream of a whole new 'National' Marauder board. One that isn't this one, because Logan apparently chose to sell to the wrong people. At least that is what we have been led to believe. Many of the newer members who know none of the history, and some others who have forgotten it or been oblivious to it have been completely taken in.

So what is next?

AstroVic

01-02-2007, 01:29 PM

Yes, but what Marty really wants to know is, has the "Miserable Users" hack cited been installed and employed here in the last few days, or are some people just hysteric, paranoid, and suffering from 'Chicken Little syndrome' ?

This indeed is the question, and it hasn't been answered. It shouldn't take more than about two seconds to "research" the answer.

Either it has been installed and it is readily available and used by the admins, or it has not. Period.

This is not a difficult question to answer.

Either the admins have done something (such as utilizing the "miserable user" program) to make it difficult for certain members to access this site, or they have not.

How friggin' hard is this to comprehend, people?

So, I'll word it like this:

Have the owners of this site (admins, moderators, etc.) done anything or installed any program which would make it difficult for certain members to login or access this site in any way, shape, or form?

YES or NO?

Quit dancing around the issue and just answer the question.

Mad4Macs

01-02-2007, 01:41 PM

Oh brother, can't we drop it and pull everyone into Hug Harbor? :D

RCSignals

01-02-2007, 01:54 PM

This indeed is the question, and it hasn't been answered. It shouldn't take more than about two seconds to "research" the answer.

Either it has been installed and it is readily available and used by the admins, or it has not. Period.

This is not a difficult question to answer.

Either the admins have done something (such as utilizing the "miserable user" program) to make it difficult for certain members to access this site, or they have not.

How friggin' hard is this to comprehend, people?

So, I'll word it like this:

Have the owners of this site (admins, moderators, etc.) done anything or installed any program which would make it difficult for certain members to login or access this site in any way, shape, or form?

YES or NO?

Quit dancing around the issue and just answer the question.

Read my post above yours. what you want an answer to is a "smoke and mirrors" question.
The real issue here has nothing to do with the last few days, weeks or couple of months.