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High-C
01-11-2007, 12:58 PM
I was wondering if anyone new of any sources that would entertain the idea of custom cutting some 20" Marauder wheels. I would love to have a set if someone would offer a limited run of the MM wheels re-proportioned to 20 inches... center section and all...

magindat
01-11-2007, 01:17 PM
I was wondering if anyone new of any sources that would entertain the idea of custom cutting some 20" Marauder wheels. I would love to have a set if someone would offer a limited run of the MM wheels re-proportioned to 20 inches... center section and all...

Sounds expensive...

www.sema.org/images/pdf/33297.pdf (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/www.sema.org/images/pdf/33297.pdf)

KillJoy
01-11-2007, 01:46 PM
Bad link above: THIS (http://www.sema.org/images/pdf/33297.pdf) is correct.

KillJoy

Blackened300a
01-11-2007, 04:17 PM
Heres the result from the last time someone wanted 20's on a Marauder.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/wrecked2.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/wrecked.jpg

not5-0
01-11-2007, 06:05 PM
I see alot of posts about wheels and wanted to put my .02 in. I have had custom rims on 5 different cars and have always contended that a wheel and tire combo can make or break a car. In my opinion, our cars are one of the few vehicles on the road that does not benefit from a custom rim, thats not to say that I haven't seen some nice MMs with different rims, but most only make our cars look like crown vics with a wheel upgrade. In a limited edition vehicle such as ours you must look at the heritage factor and try to preseve it.

mpearce
01-11-2007, 06:50 PM
In my opinion, our cars are one of the few vehicles on the road that does not benefit from a custom rim, In a limited edition vehicle such as ours you must look at the heritage factor and try to preseve it.

Very good advice. I wish people would give up the big wheel thing on our cars.

-Mat

hdirish50
01-11-2007, 07:58 PM
Heres the result from the last time someone wanted 20's on a Marauder.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/wrecked2.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/wrecked.jpg

HOLY :censor:

jabo731
01-11-2007, 08:00 PM
I see alot of posts about wheels and wanted to put my .02 in. I have had custom rims on 5 different cars and have always contended that a wheel and tire combo can make or break a car. In my opinion, our cars are one of the few vehicles on the road that does not benefit from a custom rim, thats not to say that I haven't seen some nice MMs with different rims, but most only make our cars look like crown vics with a wheel upgrade. In a limited edition vehicle such as ours you must look at the heritage factor and try to preseve it.

+10, the only things that should be done with our wheels ,widen,chrome, or powdercoat them.

KillJoy
01-11-2007, 08:02 PM
+10, the only things that should be done with our wheels ,widen,chrome, or powdercoat them.


Or Nickle Plate them :up:

KillJoy

MarauderMark
01-12-2007, 06:31 AM
Heres the result from the last time someone wanted 20's on a Marauder.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/wrecked2.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/wrecked.jpg

These tires look great for cold weather and rainy days or just turning a corner a lil fast.Actaully look at the back tires:shake:
I don't think rim size is that much of a problem .its using the right tires as well.:burn::D

magindat
01-12-2007, 07:15 AM
Heres the result from the last time someone wanted 20's on a Marauder.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/wrecked2.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/wrecked.jpg

Those are 22's.

Joe Walsh
01-12-2007, 07:16 AM
Aside from the right rear tire being bald as a baby's a$$, the right front tire looks to be unidirectional and MOUNTED backwards!

'Smart' driver now owns a crumpled pile of sheetmetal...IF they are still alive.

magindat
01-12-2007, 07:31 AM
I see alot of posts about wheels and wanted to put my .02 in. I have had custom rims on 5 different cars and have always contended that a wheel and tire combo can make or break a car. In my opinion, our cars are one of the few vehicles on the road that does not benefit from a custom rim, thats not to say that I haven't seen some nice MMs with different rims, but most only make our cars look like crown vics with a wheel upgrade. In a limited edition vehicle such as ours you must look at the heritage factor and try to preseve it.

I agree... to a point.

I have custom rims. 2 of them are 20's.

Why 2? Well, I believe in preserving the 'rake'. It's part of what makes a Marauder a Marauder. So 20's rear and 18's front. Secondly, I believe in preserving the 5 spoke look. So, the rims are 5 silver spokes. But Rich, those are 10 spoke rims.... Let's continue. The rims have 5 black spokes as well, this brings together the 2-tone black and silver paint. So what's with the green line? Go look up a Gurney/Yarborough Cyclone. Heritage, baby.

So while I customize A LOT. I believe in heritage and good taste. Good taste meaning that things flow and have a reason.

I have no problem with rims. I do have a problem with rims for the sake of rims and not to actually accentuate the vehicle. And yes, a wheel/tire combo can totally make or break a perfectly good ride.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/5/4/8/P0004676.JPG

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/5/4/8/P0004664.JPG

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/5/4/8/cyclone.jpg

Bowman9
01-12-2007, 09:31 AM
Funny, I was just looking into 20" rims for my Marauder and I found a set of rims that are close in offset, but just not right, so I emailed Weldcraft Wheels www.weldcraftwheels.com and they said they can mill/grind off a few millimeters off the mounting plate for roughly $40.00 a rim.

These rims are 20*8.5 with a +38mm offset, I figure if about 5-7mm were milled off they should fit correctly.
I found these rims at American Muscle.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/mustangtuning_1929_143838558

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/mustangtuning_1929_138168948

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/mustangtuning_1929_148212904

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/mustangtuning_1929_157466542

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/mustangtuning_1929_7285127

High-C
01-12-2007, 12:11 PM
for the discussion fellas... I definately value the heritage of our Marauders. I was only thinking about the idea because I noticed numerous manufacturers offering 18 & 20 inch Cobra and FR500 replica wheels for Mustangs. I love my 18's and the stance of my 04 MM, I would only consider a change if they were the exact same wheel only larger. Although those weldcrafts do look pretty good!!! I say... To each his own.

"One has a right to one's personal preferences, as in I'd never pick that color, but to each his own. Versions of this maxim appeared in the late 1500s but the modern wording was first recorded in 1713."

MarauderMark
01-12-2007, 06:57 PM
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/5/4/8/P0004664.JPG


That sure is a purdy picture:up:
Almost looks like you skidded to that spot.:D

rvaldez1
01-13-2007, 08:40 PM
The twentys look good, twenty twos are a little nicer.

magindat
01-16-2007, 07:59 AM
The twentys look good, twenty twos are a little nicer.

True. I considered 22's out back and 20's up front. To keep anywhere near stock overall diameter, I'd have been in 35 series tires. This would have harshened the ride to a point OUTSIDE of the Marauder's heritage as a luxury car. 45 series is as low a profile as I wish to use to avoid a harsh ride in the luxury car.

Sure, it may have looked nice, but not worth the ride sacrifice.

96DiamondVIII
01-16-2007, 03:05 PM
Were the 22's somehow at fault for that accident several posts back? And if so, how? Now, the issues with the tires maybe...

magindat
01-17-2007, 06:55 AM
Were the 22's somehow at fault for that accident several posts back? And if so, how? Now, the issues with the tires maybe...

I would say it was the bald rear tires, the mismounted fronts and show-off driving (how'd the rears get bald?) that created the wreck.

In and of themselves, the taller wheels only really cause braking issues.

GAMike
01-17-2007, 07:58 AM
I would say it was the bald rear tires, the mismounted fronts and show-off driving (how'd the rears get bald?) that created the wreck.

In and of themselves, the taller wheels only really cause braking issues.


+2 Also when you bump tire size and do not increase your brake size you are asking for trouble.

It drives me crazy to see SUV's with oversize rims and wimp brakes. To me it goes to the thought process...All bling without consideration of other issues.

Marauder
01-17-2007, 02:08 PM
True. I considered 22's out back and 20's up front. To keep anywhere near stock overall diameter, I'd have been in 35 series tires. This would have harshened the ride to a point OUTSIDE of the Marauder's heritage as a luxury car. 45 series is as low a profile as I wish to use to avoid a harsh ride in the luxury car.

Sure, it may have looked nice, but not worth the ride sacrifice.

If I went with those Konig Unknown's you have, I though to do 20's all around with 245/40-20 (F) and 245/45-20 (R) to keep the rake.

If I went different sizes, I'd keep the rims closer in size and do 19/20 with 245/45-19 (F) and 245/45-20 (R).

OneBADLsE
01-17-2007, 02:45 PM
Only hoodlums put 20's on their 'Rauder....

martyo
01-17-2007, 03:45 PM
Crack kills.

magindat
01-17-2007, 05:03 PM
Only hoodlums put 20's on their 'Rauder....

After viewing the above discussion, that was simply uncalled for.

Only uneducated :censor: judge others by stereotype.

rvaldez1
01-17-2007, 05:30 PM
After viewing the above discussion, that was simply uncalled for.

Only uneducated :censor: judge others by stereotype.

Its cool Rich, we all know you are a good guy, but I must be a super hoodlum with 22s on the vic.


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/1/8/8/Crownvic22s.jpg

Marauder
01-18-2007, 07:53 AM
Only hoodlums put 20's on their 'Rauder....

To each their own. If you enjoy your car and wanna put 20's, good for you.

If you don't like 20's, don't put them on your car.







Now back to the topic at hand......
Anyone know of a custom place that will make Marauder replicas in 20"?
:D

Loco1234
01-18-2007, 08:48 AM
Byod Coddington's shop has a CNC machine and CAD tech that CAN do it...
...but will they and for how much...?

Marauder
01-18-2007, 10:04 AM
Byod Coddington's shop has a CNC machine and CAD tech that CAN do it...
...but will they and for how much...?

Might be pricey. Their regular production rims are $$$ so imagine total custom.



***EDIT***
I contacted Boyd to see what type of work/price we're talking about.

High-C
01-18-2007, 10:18 AM
They may be expensive, but if we did a limited production / group buy, they would definitely be unique... and look pretty cool as well. I'd keep my 18's with the drag radials for the track.

Bowman9
01-25-2007, 02:26 PM
Okay now I am confused, yet again :(

I was looking on americanracing.com and they list that a 20x8.5 rim with a +38mm or +35mm will fit our 2003/2004 Maruaders. This does not seem correct to me.

Click me (http://www./appguide/final.asp?section=app&carID=1139&picture=105M&desc=18%22+%2B50&detail=105M28566B&year=2003&make=MERCURY&model=MARAUDER++++++++1343+LBS %2E)

Click me (http://www.americanracing.com/appguide/final.asp?section=app&carID=1139&picture=9310&desc=18%22+%2B50&detail=931028567&year=2003&make=MERCURY&model=MARAUDER++++++++1343+LBS %2E)

magindat
01-26-2007, 06:20 AM
Okay now I am confused, yet again :(

I was looking on americanracing.com and they list that a 20x8.5 rim with a +38mm or +35mm will fit our 2003/2004 Maruaders. This does not seem correct to me.

Click me (http://www./appguide/final.asp?section=app&carID=1139&picture=105M&desc=18%22+%2B50&detail=105M28566B&year=2003&make=MERCURY&model=MARAUDER++++++++1343+LBS %2E)

Click me (http://www.americanracing.com/appguide/final.asp?section=app&carID=1139&picture=9310&desc=18%22+%2B50&detail=931028567&year=2003&make=MERCURY&model=MARAUDER++++++++1343+LBS %2E)

The 20x8.5 + 38 would sit just about like rvaldez car above.

Dude, gimme a holler. It looks like you might be able to do a split set up similar to mine with those rims and it would look HOT!

Herco23
01-26-2007, 08:06 PM
I agree with JABO, what I decided to do since our cars are special edition, is chroming my stock wheels and that made it stand out even more. Besides, I don't think that loosing power will be a good idea.

rvaldez1
01-26-2007, 08:12 PM
Just to give a little insight on the topic of bigger than 20s, I sold them after 1 month. I drive a little too spirited to have these big wheels. The wheels stick out, and the car handled a little weird. The car felt alot heavier and bigger, but they were great for straight line traction. I was running 255 35 r 22. All they were good for was to pick up women, and scare a couple wannabes in the neighborhood. :cool4:. They are cool to look at, just not to drive in.