View Full Version : The dealer knows....
CRUZTAKER
06-17-2003, 06:26 PM
It's like big brother watching. :down:
I wasn't aware that when the dealer does diagnostics on the EEC, that one (of who knows how many) of the error codes they can retrieve is the one that indicates the driver is hitting the rev-limiter. Ie: hot dogging the car.
I went in for a free oil change, and for shats and grins I requested they run diagnostics to see if I had a plug fouling. She'sa been running rough at 1200 rpm lately....Remember I had complained of shatty performance with the 4:10's and no chip. Plus I gapped the damn Denso's BEFORE someone told us not to. Turns out all is well....except for the 'hot-dogging' code.
That sucks, they can actually tell when we beat on the car.
notacop
06-17-2003, 06:38 PM
did you actually "bounce" it off the rev limiter several times, or was it just a full throttle upshift at 6100 or so? or a manual upshift that may have been timed a little late? i believe the limiter is set at 6100 with fuel shutoff at 6250, can anyone confirm this?
here's a funny story for ya. bout 6 months ago, a good friend of mine had his bmw 328i at 128mph on a local freeway. yes, very bad idea, i know. anyway, he takes it to bmw for service a few weeks later. his dad goes to pick up the car for him. service guy tells daddy about this ridiculous speed. needless to say, my friend wasnt driving for a while. ok, it was 2 months. i could go on and on about bmw drivers...(especially the 16 year old ones)
Bigdogjim
06-17-2003, 06:57 PM
Cruz you be supprised to know what they tell by pluging in.
It's that easy.
MAD-3R
06-17-2003, 08:03 PM
Thjats why you discunect the battery cable for 15 min BEFORE you take it in. clears the code, and clean computer, except for the gaping whole in the box.
Bigdogjim
06-17-2003, 09:26 PM
Tricks of the trade?
CRUZTAKER
06-18-2003, 03:33 AM
:up:
Paul T. Casey
06-18-2003, 04:16 AM
They've been doing the same crap with rental cars in CT for a while now, you return it, they run a diagnostic, and if you've been over a certian speed, I think it was something like 85, they would surcharge your credit card. It went to civil court, I can't remember the outcome. Of course you gotta be a little boneheaded to take most rentals that high anyway, I've seen how they are driven and maintained.
UncleLar
06-18-2003, 03:07 PM
I recall back when OBDII was coming out, or shortly after, the "Vette guys were up in arms as it could possibly be used as a tattletale of how the vehicle was being driven at the time of an accident afterwards by the insurance companies. Do all the OBDII's do this?
RCSignals
06-19-2003, 12:09 AM
If you disconnect the batttery for that long, do you lose any of your settings like remotes programmed, turn off of horn chirp, etc, or does that info stay in memory?
CRUZTAKER
06-19-2003, 03:27 AM
^^Yeah, how 'bout that?^^
SergntMac
06-19-2003, 04:53 AM
Here's a thought...Instead of disconnecting the battery and having to reset all the toys, why not identify the hot wire to the ECM and put a toggle switch on that?
Murader03
06-19-2003, 06:10 AM
As a second thought to Sarde, why not drop by your local AutoZone and have them put a code reader on it and then clear any codes? You can also buy your own reader, or find a friend with one and clear the computer that way.....just my $.02's
The Connecticut rental scam was using a GPS system to track the vehicle's speed.
Other than that, I would not be surprised to hear that certain conditions logged by the PCM might be saved in non-volatile memory, so erasing the PCM is not even an option for certain type of events.
Mike
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