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LVMarauder

03-09-2007, 01:04 AM

From LVMARAUDER.
To Dennis Reinhart, of Orange Park Florida.

Response toe Dennis Reinhart Quotes in Regards to CF FAKE replica Covers:

People not interested include the following:

Killjoy – Posts 2,560

Master- 37 Posts

Suzuki10179- Lame not for me

RR|suki – Wow that a lot of $$$ though isn’t it?

LV-Yes it is, for 50 bucks you can get the same tape on Ebay.

Cobra- 25 - It does Look nice Dennis, I for one don't hold a interest in it ,but thanks for thinking of it..

Fordnut-Looks good. Since I got one of the original CF ones I won't need one, but it looks like it would be easy to get other underhood parts painted to match. Things like the fuse box cover, vacuum canister, throttle cable cover, etc.

LV- Easy to get under hood parts painted to match- evidence to support my claim of you making unneeded charges for your profit.

Cyclopsram…. is a common term of vacuum... However I would just take the stock cover and paint it gloss black for the same effect...and get a new sticker from my local Ford dealer...total invested about $10 bux...

LV-Yet more common sense support for my claim.

Skilz 17109-For $700 I could have a c/f hood made..

Function > Form

LVMARAUDER- Mr. Reinhart, you most unrespectfully and with full business interest to yourself deleted the majority of my post. You have lost all respect with me and inedeed, as time will tell, lost much respect with the Marauder community. I DID NOT modify my post to say I am a marauder Owner I said you were full of S*H^*I)T for Selling this worthless part to Marauder owners. LET ME SAY THIS DELETE THIS AS MUCH AS YOU WANT I WILL DAILY POST IT UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME. TEST ME, I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU.

On to my opinion , there have been several marauder owners who have called you out on your bull. I am not alone. And you have your answer sir. Stop trying to rape the Marauder community of funds that could go to making the car faster. If you think my words are BIASED you are damned right, I have never thought you as an honest salesmen as so many of your henchmen profess but as a SNAKE OIL DOCTOR. I, LVMARAUDER WILL NEVER PURCHASE ANOTHER PRODUCT FROM YOU AGAIN. And I hope other Members will follow suit when they recognize your truly selfish ENDEAVOR.

Micheal Ward- Posts 233, $375.00 to paint a plastic cover no thank you but thanks for asking .
Lvmaruader- Ridiculous as I support, same cane be accomplished on Ebay.

Mike Poore,-

LVMarauder- You sir, are a henchmen, A pawn used by Mr. Reinhart to further his cause, feel proud sir.
I find this sort of post to be offensive. There's a difference between "trying to sell ****" and offering up something a vendor sees as worthy of a look. I note that Dennis reported the unit as painted, for want of a better word, but it's obviously an applied finish not unlike powder coating of various engine parts, or laser applied graphics, which neither make our cars go faster nor reduce weight. It's bling, pure and simple, and, in my opinion, in this case, looks very nice.

Reinhart found these, went to the trouble to post the photos, and offered to get them, if there is enough interest. The notion that he's trying to sell **** is quite a leap, and, frankly, IMHO, out of line.

:LVMARUDER- NO sir, it is the truth and it offends you.

We drive very special cars, these MM's, and many choose ways to individualize them, for better or worse; it's in the eye of the beholder. One thing we don't do here, is point fingers and flame one another over our choices.

LVMARUDER- But One Thing I will do, Sir, is Stand up and defend us Average Marauder owners by protesting this bull.

Either you like Dennis' offering and want one, or you don't, let's keep it civil.

:LVMARUDER- CIVIL LEFT WHEN HE COWARDLY DELETED MY POST. I guess all southerners will use any advantage to defeat us “California Liberals” even those who are Staunch Conservatives From Nevada, I.E. Me.

LVMARAUDERS Reply:
MaginDat, You sir, are EVEN LESS A CREDIBLE SOURCE OF INFORMATION.

I Quote:
apparently not. Reinhart Performance Engineering is just that, a performance shop. One, as a friend and enthusiast Dennis went to the trouble of sourcing something he found attractive and thought we might also. Two, a performance shop is in no way shape or form obligated to offer 'bling', dude is doing the membership and owners a favor. Three, you think his time is FREE? I give him at least 3 hours at 125 bucks and hour out of time he could have spent hopping up cars and taking in the money. Nope, he spent it on US! Last, but certainly not least, Dennis is ONE OF US who happens to have more access to resources, vendors, etc. He's kind enough to continually offer cool stuff at a good price and I promise you, the profit is just enough to keep the lights on and grandkids fed.

So, Mr. '2 Percenter'. Maybe you should spend some time at the 'grass roots' level, where we share our ideas and help each other out.

It seems recently you like to whine and bag on people and ideas. I, for one, don't love it. Say what you will about me, since now you feel personally attacked. My skin is thick and I need no flame suit, cuz those who know me know what I'm about. Calm down and grow up dude.

As for the CF look trim. Not so much for me. (due to price) Lou's looks freakin' great. I even did some looking myslef after I saw Lou's at SSM picnic. I couldn't find it. Dennis, thanx for spending the time and effort.

MaginDat- From LVMARAUDER- YOU SIR ARE AN IDIOT. I mean that in the full sense and effect of the word. First, You have been played by Dennis like a fiddle. He offers “Bling” to incrase his bottom line with out increasing out quarter mile time. How do you like that sir? If you give him 3 hours at 125, well that your own damn fault, not mine.

Finally DENNIS IS NOT ONE OF US. 1st in my support of this argument is that he DELETED MY POT THAT OPOSED HIM, SOLEY BECAUSE HE HAS ADMIN RIGHTS ON THIS WEBSITE. I WITHOUT A DOUBT KNOW HE WILL DELEE THIS THREAD BUT I WILL REPOT DAILY, NAY, HOURLY , Until THE ENTIRE MARAUDER COMMUNITY HAS HEAD THE TRUTH. Your Reign or Terror sir, IS OVER. If by grass roots level you mean I should Be in is employment and personal expene then NO SIR, you are wrong, try and buy me, I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU.
I also double dog dare you NOT TO REPLY , because with your thick skin you wont reply…. I highly Doubt it… see you many times in the posts to follow.

I ONCE AGAIN REMAND MY VOW TO POST THIS AS MANY TIMES AS POSSIBLE,

Dennis Reinhart -
Yes its pricey and every vendor here has to make a profit but not gouge the club, I try and be as fair as I can, and if there is no interest in this so be it, and I will delete the post.

Rider90- Ah maybe it was Dennis then, seeing as he edited LVMarauder's post...

Mysterious then if no body did it

Bradley G- If my memory serves me correct, the real CF ones were less than half of the price quoted for painted.
I recall Big slim got his (damaged)after a lenghty wait.
No interest here, but they do look nice.

Gre8one7

03-09-2007, 04:23 AM

I love this thread!

amen brother!

MarauderMark

03-09-2007, 04:29 AM

:shake: :rolleyes: :popcorn:

DefyantExWife

03-09-2007, 04:32 AM

:shake: :rolleyes: :popcorn:

You just *had* to post in this scandalous exposure didnt you ? :bop1: (throws Mark into the pan of fire) :D

:popcorn:

LILALLEYKATT

03-09-2007, 04:38 AM

Very Interesting...:cool:

AstroVic

03-09-2007, 05:08 AM

Not surprising.

Also, it won't be surprising to see the following three things happen:

1) No legitimate response
2) The thread will be deleted
3) The original poster will be quickly banned.

*sigh*

We've all been ripped off be Dennis Reinhart at one time or another. Myself included. Some of us are smart enough to take our business elsewhere. I just choose to ignore Dennis.

Caveat Emptor, my friends.

Edit: A 4th thing will probably happen: I'm sure I'll be banned before too long so stating the foregoing opinion. Oh well...

Bradley G

03-09-2007, 05:14 AM

Well, that's a post from member that may have held back, a bit too long.
While I may not be first in line to order one, If someone wants to part with thier hard earned money to buy one, far be it from me to say otherwise.
Let's face it, there are gobs of mods, that don't give more GO-Go.
The real crime is, mods offered as Go Go +++ that don't .
And, of course deleting posts, that get in your way.

FordNut

03-09-2007, 05:17 AM

Bye-bye...

Dennis Reinhart

03-09-2007, 08:16 AM

So I am sure many of the members here have seen the unprovoked slanderous post against my name over this carbon fiber thread, I called the owner of Hydro Illusions, LLC, there located at

2894 47th Ave. N.
St. Petersburg, FL 33714
Office: (727) 526-2336
Fax: (727) 521-1528
email: info@hydroillusions.com (info@hydroillusions.com)

The engine cover cost me 45.00 plus shipping from Ford I then had to ship it to hydro illusions, they charged me 278.00 for this process, and sent it back after all the shipping I would make a whopping 50.00. So for any one to say I price gouged, misled or attempted to do some thing shady, they are simply wrong and have been prompted to do so.

This is why I locked the thread its in my forum, I felt there was not enough interest in this I was doing what I felt was best for the club, if any one has a problem or a question about any thing I sell, all they have to do is call me, I will put you immediately in touch with the manufacturer.

Tom is the owner of Hydro solutions I spoke to him at 9 AM any one here can call him. I encourage you to do so, so you are fully satisfied with what is being stated here. If I called any vendor here or any member here a fraud and a liar I would be banned immediately.
What ever the owners decide is there call I have removed my self form any decisions concerning this matter.

MarauderTJA

03-09-2007, 08:30 AM

This accusation is total BS:mad: . LVMarauder, I really do not understand your mission. You have misinterpreted the whole hood issue here. Grow up and mature. Business is business, you don't like it go away. A "few" of you guys have nothing better to do than manipulate issues to continue to stir up things for the sake of the pleasure of the"few" Reinhart haters...Guess things have been boring for you. Go over to the other site and rant there... It does not belong here. Dennis, you did nothing wrong here.

Administrators, delete this entire thread and ban the trouble makers.

DEFYANT

03-09-2007, 08:31 AM

If thats true, they were going to screw you. Ca'mon man, even $278. is a leap. $125 at the most for a painted radiator cover. Less if it is done with a decal!!

RR|Suki

03-09-2007, 08:41 AM

MarauderTJA

03-09-2007, 08:43 AM

If thats true, they were going to screw you. Ca'mon man, even $278. is a leap. $125 at the most for a painted radiator cover. Less if it is done with a decal!!

Why don't you call Hydro Solutions and see for yourself on the costs. Nothing to hide here..If it is too expensive, don't buy it. At least it was offered and not at a ground breaking profit.

2003 MIB

03-09-2007, 08:48 AM

Stuff I bought from Reinhart:
4.10 gearset
170 degree thermostat
Denso plugs
Plug in tune (Marauder)
SCT programmer (Marauder)
Xcalibrator (for F150)
Driveshaft
Underdrive pulley set

This stuff and Kook's exhaust= 14.26 best time with my rookie driving skills.

Times I felt ripped off, cheated or unhappy: 0

Maybe I was lucky? I dunno- I'd buy from him again if I saw something I wanted. No question about it.

MarauderTJA

03-09-2007, 08:49 AM

LOL:lol: The kid has an opinion, how is that something to ban him for? Just because his views might upset some people? :shake:

His opinion is fine.... Everyone has one. But to mouth off and create a thread that disrepects anyone is wrong. Dennis has a business as I do. If you don't want to do business with a person that is your choice. It could have been handled with PM's or a phone call to get it straightened out. Doing some research/investigating as well as making a few phone calls would have shown clearly that there was no fraud or lies what-so-ever.

It is just another reason and some peoples agenda to create problems here. I personally am sick of them.....but that is my opinion. Take it somewhere else.

JonW

03-09-2007, 08:51 AM

That's the neat thing about free enterprise. If you don't like a product, or think the price is too high, you don't have to buy it. Pretty simple concept, really.

Here's a suggestion for you, LVMarauder. First, grow up. Second, quit whining. That gets you nowhere. And third, get real. If you think a $50 profit on DR's part is unreasonable, go out and get a business license and a tax number. Rent a facility and set up shop. Hire employees. Pay payroll taxes, workmen's comp taxes, and all the other duties imposed upon you by our various governments. Then once you've got all that established, find a vendor that you want to do business with, set up an account with them, make all the arrangements for shipping, warranty, etc. Make sure that they make a quality product that meets your standards. And then promote that product. If you're lucky, you might sell one a day or maybe only one a week. Do all that work, and make $50 profit per unit. I'll tell you one thing, you won't retire rich.

Now quit being a crybaby and get on with your life. Good Lord, man, it's only a piece of a car. You act like you lost a leg or something.

MarauderTJA

03-09-2007, 08:52 AM

DEFYANT

03-09-2007, 08:58 AM

Why don't you call Hydro Solutions and see for yourself on the costs. Nothing to hide here..If it is too expensive, don't buy it. At least it was offered and not at a ground breaking profit.

Hey bud, how ya doin?

Take another look at my comment. It was not demeaning or insulting. I did not attack Dennis. I simply voiced my opinion. Why are you jumping on me? Surely it is not because of my Trilogy Supercharger choice, so what gives?

Actions like this makes it look like your some kind of henchman. I comment to Dennis, and you jump on me.... :hmmm:

RR|Suki

03-09-2007, 09:00 AM

His opinion is fine.... Everyone has one. But to mouth off and create a thread that disrepects anyone is wrong. Dennis has a business as I do. If you don't want to do business with a person that is your choice. It could have been handled with PM's or a phone call to get it straightened out. Doing some research/investigating as well as making a few phone calls would have shown clearly that there was no fraud or lies what-so-ever.

It is just another reason and some peoples agenda to create problems here. I personally am sick of them.....but that is my opinion. Take it somewhere else.

Your logic is flawed, his interest is not in working anything out with Reinhart, his point is to inform the Marauder comunity of what he believes to be the pedling of worthless products, and cutting into other people's attempts to provide products for this comunity. Seems to me his "agenda" is to voice his opinion on things he found rediculous, not sure how PMs would help since he was trying to address everyone. If you look at it in an objective light, this is quite clear.

DEFYANT

03-09-2007, 09:06 AM

Curious, was the original title of this thread:

"Dennis R Is A Coward And A Fraud"?

MarauderTJA

03-09-2007, 09:09 AM

Hey bud, how ya doin?

Take another look at my comment. It was not demeaning or insulting. I did not attack Dennis. I simply voiced my opinion. Why are you jumping on me? Surely it is not because of my Trilogy Supercharger choice, so what gives?

Actions like this makes it look like your some kind of henchman. I comment to Dennis, and you jump on me.... :hmmm:

Charlie no man, I was not jumping on you, if you took it that way I apologize. And because you have a Trilogy, come'on man:lol: please.... No, I have no problem with anyones opinion and I am not the henchman here. Honestly, I am really tired of flamming posts overall. And I did not find your posts demeaning or insulting. I tend to look at things differently, investigate things before making a slanderous remark like this one.

I have been accused by a friend of yours on a S/C issue, which were total lies and would like to confront the liars directly. But they won't come forward, nor will the person accusing me tell me who they are.

I am a bit punchy today getting ready for this weekend and I am getting out of here. Over and out...

Zack

03-09-2007, 09:10 AM

If thats true, they were going to screw you. Ca'mon man, even $278. is a leap. $125 at the most for a painted radiator cover. Less if it is done with a decal!!

6 Grand for your Junk overpriced Trilogy is also a leap, considering 99% of the kit is Ford parts at a Huge discount to JB.

Whats your point?

MM2004

03-09-2007, 09:11 AM

Curious, was the original title of this thread:

"Dennis R Is A Coward And A Fraud"?

What does it matter?

It was brought back to life by Dennis to share his thoughts and contact information for the people in doubt.

Maybe he forgot the original title since it was deleted. I dunno?

RR|Suki

03-09-2007, 09:11 AM

Curious, was the original title of this thread:

"Dennis R Is A Coward And A Fraud"?

Yeah I don't think it was liar when posted, some admin changed that I guess. :eek:

DEFYANT

03-09-2007, 09:13 AM

Charlie no man, I was not jumping on you, if you took it that way I apologize. And because you have a Trilogy, come'on man:lol: please.... No, I have no problem with anyones opinion and I am not the henchman here. Honestly, I am really tired of flamming posts overall. And I did not find your posts demeaning or insulting. I tend to look at things differently, investigate things before making a slanderous remark like this one.

I have been accused by a friend of yours on a S/C issue, which were total lies and would like to confront the liars directly. But they won't come forward, nor will the person accusing me tell me who they are.

I am a bit punchy today getting ready for this weekend and I am getting out of here. Over and out...

Cool. Just checking. I'm not sure I follow regarding the S/C issue part, but if the is anything I can to to help, please PM me the details and I'll get on it.

I know how you feel.

Peter

03-09-2007, 09:15 AM

A lot of controversy here, guess it's back to MCM for me....

Zack

03-09-2007, 09:15 AM

Curious, was the original title of this thread:

"Dennis R Is A Coward And A Fraud"?

Ive been wanting to say this for a long time...

You have short man syndrome but remedy it with your badge.
Go to the MCM where you belong.
Take your ANNOYING AZZ wife with you too.

:popcorn:

Give me a vacation for this, I dont care, You deserve it.

Hey LV Marauder, why didnt you post this when everyone was awake.
You are 2 hours ahead of everyone, where's the fairness in that?
Lick me.

RF Overlord

03-09-2007, 09:16 AM

Your logic is flawedI believe it is YOUR logic which is flawed, here. MarauderTJA is absolutely right. If LVMarauder had stated in a calm and polite post that he felt the item being offered by Dennis was not a good deal, and stated his reasons for his opinion, there would have been no issue at all. Instead, he chose to write a rambling, at times incoherent, rant that used slanderous words like "coward" and "fraud" then proceeded to spam almost every forum on the site with it, including, for some unfathomable reason, the FIT forum. This is unacceptable behaviour by ANY member against ANY vendor.

DEFYANT

03-09-2007, 09:17 AM

6 Grand for your Junk overpriced Trilogy is also a leap, considering 99% of the kit is Ford parts at a Huge discount to JB.

Whats your point?

Here is mine:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/Defyant/DCP_2102.jpg

Here is yours:

http://www.motorcitymarauders.com/gallery/files/1/0/7/halloween141.jpg

THANKS AGAIN JERRY BARNES!

DEFYANT

03-09-2007, 09:22 AM

Ive been wanting to say this for a long time...

You have short man syndrome but remedy it with your badge.
Go to the MCM where you belong.
Take your ANNOYING AZZ wife with you too.

:popcorn:

Give me a vacation for this, I dont care, You deserve it.

Hey LV Marauder, why didnt you post this when everyone was awake.
You are 2 hours ahead of everyone, where's the fairness in that?
Lick me.

:lol:

Dont give him a vacation, I am NOT insulted or offended. He's right, my wife can be annoying -it's part of her charm.

As for the badge comment, haha, if you really knew me, you'd know that wasn't true. The badge does not define me, I define it.

RR|Suki

03-09-2007, 09:24 AM

I believe it is YOUR logic which is flawed, here. MarauderTJA is absolutely right. If LVMarauder had stated in a calm and polite post that he felt the item being offered by Dennis was not a good deal, and stated his reasons for his opinion, there would have been no issue at all. Instead, he chose to write a rambling, at times incoherent, rant that used slanderous words like "coward" and "fraud" then proceeded to spam almost every forum on the site with it, including, for some unfathomable reason, the FIT forum. This is unacceptable behaviour by ANY member against ANY vendor.

LOL you're an idiot anyway, so I'll help you out. He did voice his opinion quitely, I was sitting here and saw his initial posts in the thread about the covers, and they kept getting deleted, over and over again. This got him heated, and leads to this thread, which is prob why he posted it at 4 in the morning so that it might survive for someone to see it. So sod off, and look up slander in the dictionary, all the kid did was copy and post what happened to him.

DefyantExWife

03-09-2007, 09:27 AM

Ive been wanting to say this for a long time...

You have short man syndrome but remedy it with your badge.
Go to the MCM where you belong.
Take your ANNOYING AZZ wife with you too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/snexus/e09916bb.gif

Hello Kettle, I'm black . Nice to meetcha :shot:

chader

03-09-2007, 09:36 AM

i HAVE AN OPINION,I THINK BIG MACS ARE OVER PRICED.....SO I DON'T EAT AT MCDONALDS.......FUNNY I HAVE NEVEWR MADE A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT????

RF Overlord

03-09-2007, 09:39 AM

LOL you're an idiot anyway...
So sod off...I wrote a calm and reasonable post and your only response was to use insults. Thank you for proving my point.

Seneca

03-09-2007, 09:43 AM

:shake::tantrum::wasntme::hide :

RR|Suki

03-09-2007, 09:43 AM

I wrote a calm and reasonable post and your only response was to use insults. Thank you for proving my point.

lol so an insult on someone's intention is better than a direct one? you insulted his intentions, without even knowing for why he did what he did... so cry about it :bigcry: LOL. Passive aggressive people are funny

magindat

03-09-2007, 09:43 AM

MaginDat, You sir, are EVEN LESS A CREDIBLE SOURCE OF INFORMATION.

I Quote:
apparently not. Reinhart Performance Engineering is just that, a performance shop. One, as a friend and enthusiast Dennis went to the trouble of sourcing something he found attractive and thought we might also. Two, a performance shop is in no way shape or form obligated to offer 'bling', dude is doing the membership and owners a favor. Three, you think his time is FREE? I give him at least 3 hours at 125 bucks and hour out of time he could have spent hopping up cars and taking in the money. Nope, he spent it on US! Last, but certainly not least, Dennis is ONE OF US who happens to have more access to resources, vendors, etc. He's kind enough to continually offer cool stuff at a good price and I promise you, the profit is just enough to keep the lights on and grandkids fed.

So, Mr. '2 Percenter'. Maybe you should spend some time at the 'grass roots' level, where we share our ideas and help each other out.

It seems recently you like to whine and bag on people and ideas. I, for one, don't love it. Say what you will about me, since now you feel personally attacked. My skin is thick and I need no flame suit, cuz those who know me know what I'm about. Calm down and grow up dude.

As for the CF look trim. Not so much for me. (due to price) Lou's looks freakin' great. I even did some looking myslef after I saw Lou's at SSM picnic. I couldn't find it. Dennis, thanx for spending the time and effort.

MaginDat- From LVMARAUDER- YOU SIR ARE AN IDIOT. I mean that in the full sense and effect of the word. First, You have been played by Dennis like a fiddle. He offers “Bling” to incrase his bottom line with out increasing out quarter mile time. How do you like that sir? If you give him 3 hours at 125, well that your own damn fault, not mine.

Finally DENNIS IS NOT ONE OF US. 1st in my support of this argument is that he DELETED MY POT THAT OPOSED HIM, SOLEY BECAUSE HE HAS ADMIN RIGHTS ON THIS WEBSITE. I WITHOUT A DOUBT KNOW HE WILL DELEE THIS THREAD BUT I WILL REPOT DAILY, NAY, HOURLY , Until THE ENTIRE MARAUDER COMMUNITY HAS HEAD THE TRUTH. Your Reign or Terror sir, IS OVER. If by grass roots level you mean I should Be in is employment and personal expene then NO SIR, you are wrong, try and buy me, I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU.
I also double dog dare you NOT TO REPLY , because with your thick skin you wont reply…. I highly Doubt it… see you many times in the posts to follow.

I'll take this a line at a time.
You may think what you wish about the credibility of my information. That's the nature of a PUBLIC forum. I take no offense whatsoever to that notion. For example: there have been many threads with folks describing problems with their MM. I often post my experiences in attempt to help. Sometimes I'm right on target, sometimes I'm wrong. At least I OFFER SOMETHING CONTRUCTIVE.
In this context, post count is your credential. Well, let me lay a few credentials on ya. Bachelor of Science Liberal Arts, Masters Computer Information Technology, Certified Lifeguard, CDL class C driver's license, BICSI certified Cable installer, MECP certification, Certified Pool Operator, Certified Professional Picture Framer, Certified Teledyne Laars Gas boiler Technician, Iam sure there's a dozen more I'm forgetting. The point is (and I double dog dare ya to take this out of context) SOMEONE at SOMETIME thought my info was, in fact, not only credible, but certifiable!

Next:
If you are going to call someone an IDIOT (an offense worthy of vacation time, here) then don't be such a ****y and preface it with SIR.
In regards to BLING: Have you SEEN my car?! I painted it MYSELF with a littel help and guidance from A FRIEND. Personally, I can't imagine a spoiled brat like you doing anything more skilled than signing mommy's check!

Hey STOOPID, 1/4 mile isn't everything. You forget about carshows? Highway comfort? Safety? Family? Oh, no you're to freakin immature and selfish to think about anything but YOURSELF!!! Perhaps you should take a moment to understand that there are people and even more important MM owners who are interested in more than 1/4 mile. Most didn't buy the car for that reason at all.

I have not been played at all. I have given Dennis plenty of my money and have never been disappointed with the pordusts, work, or ongoing support. I have had the privilege of becoming friends with Dennis. I have had the privilege of working in his shop and hanging with his family. I have made the 4hr drive to his place to do work FOR HIM! I do this stuff for fun. He does it to feed his grandkids. I get it. You clearly don't.

My point regarding the 3 hrs @ $125 is to say that time he does not spend in his shop making his shop rate comes off his bottom line. This is a business principle and has nothing to do with friendship. So, you have now made it abundantly clear that you understand little to nothing about business.

Grass roots, young'un (yes, that's Southern) is an older term meaning without sponsorship. It is a state of mind. You'll never understand it. We are not in one another's employ. We are friends.

I went to Jacksonville to install Dennis's new radio. I did it for nothing. Dennis put me up in his home and fed me. It was a great excuse to hang out with some very cool people and have a good car time. If Dennis is guilty of anything, it's of becoming friends with his customers. He actually FEELS BAD for making 'too much'. But yet I still see him in his office struggling to pay the bills.

People are just that, people. Some will get along. Some won't. SOme will understand. Some won't. Clearly, you don't understand.

So, we've established you know nothing of:
Credibility
Credentials
Customizing cars
People
Friendship
Business
Grass roots
Family
and you suck at name calling.

Guess that make YOU the IDIOT!

I don't think he'll delete the thread. I hope he doesn't. In the end, you'll appear as the idiot.

Zack

03-09-2007, 09:45 AM

In case no one is noticing, the mods are proving a point here.
Bravo to you guys.

2003 MIB

03-09-2007, 09:46 AM

You have short man syndrome.
ANNOYING AZZ wife.

I wonder if more people knew Lisa was annoying than knew Charlie's height?

:D

Zack

03-09-2007, 09:50 AM

LOL:lol: The kid has an opinion, how is that something to ban him for? Just because his views might upset some people? :shake:

He would fit right in on your other website. Why dont you guys pay his yearly dues, sign him up and swear him into the collective?

DEFYANT

03-09-2007, 09:56 AM

In case no one is noticing, the mods are proving a point here.
Bravo to you guys.

Whoa! We agree. +1

KillJoy

03-09-2007, 09:58 AM

Killjoy – Posts 2,560

+1

:D

KillJoy

DefyantExWife

03-09-2007, 10:03 AM

? just testing out my new sig ?

Edit : Yep it works :thumbsup:

Agent M79

03-09-2007, 10:04 AM

I think enough people have experienced enough real and very substantial problems working with DR that the premise behind this one is really very thin.

I haven't had issues with him outside of him being somewhat perfunctory but some of the things I read from (whom I consider) credible sources give me pause.

This faux-carbon fiber thing? It's was a simple shoulder-shrugging 'no thanks' for me and I moved on.

MENINBLK

03-09-2007, 10:05 AM

Don't mind me, I'm just reading... :popcorn:

mpearce

03-09-2007, 10:28 AM

Have the tables turned? Interesting.

:hmmm:

Merc-O-matic

03-09-2007, 10:48 AM

Where the hell is "Mac" ..... when we need a referee!
OK now "carry on guys ....and gals"

Gotta Love It!:argue:

Master

03-09-2007, 10:50 AM

I have a couple of problems with this thread. First, my login and post numbers were used to create some sort of misguided database of people who allegedly had a problem with the CF component. well, I don't have a problem with it. I simply have no interest.
Secondly, regardless of what point anyone is trying to make, civility should be the number one priority. As well, opinions should not be stated as fact. I think that locking this thread out now would be fine with me as it is far from productive.
BTW: I base opinions about vendors on personal experience and not those of others. I've gotten excellent service from Dennis and the rest of the gang. Some products I like, others I don't. Big deal. That's life and business altogether. Lets get on with more productive activities.

DEFYANT

03-09-2007, 10:51 AM

Where the hell is "Mac" ..... when we need a referee!
OK now "carry on guys ....and gals"

Gotta Love It!:argue:

eh?

..........

KillJoy

03-09-2007, 10:52 AM

Zack

03-09-2007, 11:13 AM

It appears Dennis is not bothered by any of this.
Good for you Dennis.

DefyantExWife

03-09-2007, 11:20 AM

and sometimes I swear my 5 and 7 yr olds just talk to hear themselves talk.

"Tawk" I say it like "tawk." Who here says it like "tock." :shake:

Motorhead350

03-09-2007, 11:27 AM

Nice new signature. :popcorn:

DefyantExWife

03-09-2007, 11:29 AM

Nice new signature. :popcorn:

Thanks pal :D Zak think's I'm annoying. :rolleyes:

Dennis Reinhart

03-09-2007, 11:30 AM

This is Sheila, Dennis is on his way to Bradenton, any further questions, contact Hydro Illusions directly. We hope this may settle everyone's interests.

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It was nice talking to you this morning. I would just like clarify a few points about my process. The process of water transfer printing is essentially custom painting. There is time involved with the prepping of the part, priming the part, laying a base coat down, applying the ink transfer, clear coating, and finally, polishing. The process is time consuming and detail oriented; however, I think you’ll find the end product to look just as real, if not better than a part that was made out of carbon fiber. If you considered making your part out of real carbon fiber, the price doesn’t compare when you look at the cost of tooling the part, the cost of the carbon fiber, then laying the carbon fiber just right, as to make the continuity of it appealing to the eye. In this comparison, I think you’ll find you get a nicer looking product with no question about fitment for a very reasonable price. Remember that this coating can be applied to many different parts of the car including interior parts such as dashes, steering wheels, center consoles. Also, the coating is as durable as the paint on your car. My lead time is 2 weeks.<o:p></o:p>
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magindat

03-09-2007, 11:32 AM

It appears Dennis is not bothered by any of this.
Good for you Dennis.

I hope he reads that.

magindat

03-09-2007, 11:40 AM

After being called an idiot, I was incensed.

I prolly should have considered the source and let it go.

The problem with this thread's initial post besides the obvious name calling and inflamatory comments is that it serves to drive a wedge between those that have already established relationships.

So, LV, slander and defame all you want. You are making a fool of yourself. I hope when you calm down, you're embarrassed and think better of what you've started here.

I see most ignored my reply to you. I shall not delete it. It's how I handled it at that moment.

Many of us have met, traded, bought, sold spoken to, offered advice and received advice to and from others here. We will continue to do so long after the likes of you have gone.

vkirkend

03-09-2007, 11:42 AM

I'm sorry if someone dosen't like the price of something being offered. But I see this problem at the grocery store, gas station, etc.... You yourself have the responsibility to decide if you are willing to pat the price for something you want or walk away. Unless Dennis holds a gun to your head and steals your wallet you can just walk away. There are alot of things for sale on this site I would love to have but am unwilling to part with good money to pay for. That does not make the people selling the merchadise liars or frauds. That only happens if the product is marketed with a claim that can not be validated.

Rider90

03-09-2007, 12:02 PM

Neat thread. I just wanted to plug my business here. Any other vendors in on this?

:banana2:

Just kidding...

Dr Caleb

03-09-2007, 12:42 PM

LOL:lol: The kid has an opinion, how is that something to ban him for? Just because his views might upset some people? :shake:

Two words:

Dixie Chicks.

MercModifier

03-09-2007, 12:44 PM

ckadiddle

03-09-2007, 01:11 PM

If you think the carbon fiber stuff is ugly or too expensive, just don't buy it. It's that simple. If Dennis Reinhart wants to begin selling giant four foot tall pink plush bunny rabbits with "MARAUDER" stitched on them, that's fine with me. I won't buy one, but some might.

I have made several purchases from DR. Always receive the items I order promptly. Only had one minor issue, it was rectified promptly after I called and spoke to him by phone.

Let's all take a cold shower!

magindat

03-09-2007, 01:16 PM

If Dennis Reinhart wants to begin selling giant four foot tall pink plush bunny rabbits with "MARAUDER" stitched on them, that's fine with me.

I have one!!!!

:bunny: :bunny2: :neener:

Shora

03-09-2007, 01:22 PM

Let's all take a cold shower!

:eek: What kind of site is this?

:lol:

2003godshead

03-09-2007, 01:34 PM

Together ????????

MM03MOK

03-09-2007, 01:41 PM

If Dennis Reinhart wants to begin selling giant four foot tall pink plush bunny rabbits with "MARAUDER" stitched on them, that's fine with me.
Let's all take a cold shower!Well, you KNOW I want one of those!!!

:bunny2: :bunny2: :bunny2: :bunny2:

sailsmen

03-09-2007, 01:43 PM

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LV you are the first Member to ever gain the "ignore list" status.

Look at my sig, all my performance mods have been purchased from Dennis.

With out Dennis interest in the Marauder many of the mods available today we would not have.

The FBI and FHP, plus numerous other Sherriffs office have done business w/ Dennis.

magindat

03-09-2007, 01:45 PM

Let's all take a cold shower!

Together ????????

Yes, of course. And all at once! It's one of the events at MVV, didn't you hear? Everyone who participates gets a... 4 ft tall pink plush Dennis Reinhart custom bunny with MARAUDER embroidered on it! He's donating them!!!

Rider90

03-09-2007, 01:52 PM

So then why do people dislike him? Seriously, I'm just asking here...If there is more than one person that dislikes him, there has to be a reason, right? So rather than saying he is great and all that, why doesn't someone chime in a negative experience and then the people that praise Dennis, can explain?

My point...

If someone dislikes him or the way he conducts business, speak up! include dates and actual events and not "Opinions." Why? Because the thread is still going and maybe we can sort this out now and that will be the end of it.

I praise the admins for letting this thread continue on, so okay we've gotten some bashing across, now lets get down to business and put the cards on the table and skip the B.S. :shake:

My intent isn't to stir the pot, but to make real use of this thread since someone brought it all up anyways. Let's get it over with...

Mad4Macs

03-09-2007, 02:03 PM

Your logic is flawed, his interest is not in working anything out with Reinhart, his point is to inform the Marauder comunity of what he believes to be the pedling of worthless products, and cutting into other people's attempts to provide products for this comunity. Seems to me his "agenda" is to voice his opinion on things he found rediculous, not sure how PMs would help since he was trying to address everyone. If you look at it in an objective light, this is quite clear.

Jeez, I hope you never practice law! There's a world of difference between "offering an opinion" and making slanderous and libelous charges. Whether a product that was clearly advertised as being cosmetic in nature is "worthless" or not is in the eye of the purchaser, after all. Accusing someone of fraud, slandering them and their name and business in public... that goes waaaaaaay beyond an opinion, those are accusations that had better be backed up with facts... so unless your logic is flawed and LV can produce the receipts and books of Mr Reinhart's business, showing that he has committed "fraud", he's seriously on the wrong side of the line.

MercModifier

03-09-2007, 02:07 PM

I guess this thread can put to rest the Hot MCM topic of how Reinhart is worshipped and praised over here and there will be no mud slinging towards him cause he owns a tiny bit of it.

magindat

03-09-2007, 02:08 PM

Jeez, I hope you never practice law! There's a world of difference between "offering an opinion" and making slanderous and libelous charges. Whether a product that was clearly advertised as being cosmetic in nature is "worthless" or not is in the eye of the purchaser, after all. Accusing someone of fraud, slandering them and their name and business in public... that goes waaaaaaay beyond an opinion, those are accusations that had better be backed up with facts... so unless your logic is flawed and LV can produce the receipts and books of Mr Reinhart's business, showing that he has committed "fraud", he's seriously on the wrong side of the line.

Beautiful. I hope DR sues him. His mommy's pockets are most undoubtedly deep enough.

Mad4Macs

03-09-2007, 02:14 PM

In law, defamation is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against criticism.
The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts of slander (harmful statement in a transitory form, especially speech) and libel (harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a picture, sign, or electronic broadcast), each of which gives a common law right of action.
"Defamation" is the general term used internationally, and is used in this article where it is not necessary to distinguish between "slander" and "libel". Libel and slander both require publication. The fundamental distinction between libel and slander lies solely in the form in which the defamatory matter is published. If the offending material is published in some fleeting form, as by spoken words or sounds, sign language, gestures and the like, then this is slander. If it is published in more durable form, for example in written words, film, compact disc and the like, then it is considered libel.

baltimoremm

03-09-2007, 02:17 PM

If Dennis Reinhart wants to begin selling giant four foot tall pink plush bunny rabbits with "MARAUDER" stitched on them, that's fine with me.

Can I get a price quote on those bunnies everyones been talking about? How much HP do they add?

Constable

03-09-2007, 03:01 PM

This thread was posted with a ton of emotion behind it...

I understand LV's feelings about the subject and I do agree that the CF cover is pretty lame, but I think it was wrong to attack DR's business proposal in that way. I would like to think that LV has had many other issues building up inside of him and that this was the straw that broke the camel's back.

I went through a situation like that with BillyGman a few years ago. I just exploded one day on the poor guy. Oh well. It was wrong of me and I should've gone about it a different way, but I didn't. We hashed it out and that was the end of it.

Some things for ALL of you to keep in mind:

#1 - Cut LV some slack, lots of people here have had outbursts in the past...
#2 - Dennis has done a lot for us, and it is appreciated.
#3 - Many people don't like Dennis' method of performing business...
#4 - Many people do like Dennis and his business.

I'm not backing either side... I have had issues with Dennis in the past, but I also like him as a person. I can also identify with LV.

Let's let them hash it out on the phone or PM's.

FordNut

03-09-2007, 03:32 PM

Wow, spend a day on the road and come back to see this...

I've got a couple of thoughts on this thread.

First, the original thread was locked because I sent Dennis a link to an old thread about the original CF radiator cover GP. From that thread he learned that he was mistaken on the price that Kelly paid for the cover he had. Kelly did spend over $700, as DR stated. But he got 3 of them, and they weren't the CF version they were just fiberglass because he wanted to paint them. The orignal GP price was $250 for the CF ones, about 2 years ago. The manufacturer lost money on them and it took a lot of aggravation to get them to finish the project. Some orders may not have ever been filled, refunds may have been issued. IF they were to make another run of the true CF ones, I would imagine the cost would be around $400.

As for the comments by LV, totally uncalled for. The title of the thread is slanderous and cowardly. Call somebody out over the internet? Complaining about somebody offering a product for sale that he doesn't see the need for? Who is he to decide for everybody else what is a "performance" mod. Some people think going fast, stopping quick, or high G cornering mean performance, others think getting a trophy in a car show is high performance. How many MM owners have powder coated valve covers and intake manifolds? And have never had their Marauder on a track? If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you think it's too expensive, try to find it elsewhere for less. A b*tch session like this can kill a product offering that others may be interested in. How about somebody who wants to send in all their dot-matrix interior panels for the fake carbon fiber treatment.

As for Dennis' business practices, some of the biggest complainers are not even the involved customer. If a customer has a problem with something Dennis has done, take it up with Dennis and he will do his best to make it right. I've seen it with other MM owners and experienced it myself. I've seen complaints voiced about pre-payment on a GP, but there are other GP offerings going on right now with other vendors, payments have been made and no products delivered. So why is it so terrible for Dennis to do it when it seems to be a standard, accepted practice?

Blackened300a

03-09-2007, 03:48 PM

Some things for ALL of you to keep in mind:

#1 - Cut LV some slack, lots of people here have had outbursts in the past...
#2 - Dennis has done a lot for us, and it is appreciated.
#3 - Many people don't like Dennis' method of performing business...
#4 - Many people do like Dennis and his business.
Let's let them hash it out on the phone or PM's.

+1
However, on some occasions when you place the call to get some info or to clear up a issue, you sometimes get the run around or lied to. There are some people that have had flawless experiences and others that have stories. This isnt just coming from the Marauder community.
One brave sole (LV) went ahead and risked being banned to speak what some feel, Cut him some slack for that.
We have a lot of new members joining and if a business has a bad reputation of not doing right by a number of members, Wouldnt it be the right thing to do to let them know before they plunk down their hard earned cash and have a problem? Maybe if more info and stories were told it would improve business practices and relations on both sides.

Bigdogjim

03-09-2007, 04:02 PM

As for the comments by LV, totally uncalled for. The title of the thread is slanderous and cowardly. Call somebody out over the internet? Complaining about somebody offering a product for sale that he doesn't see the need for? Who is he to decide for everybody else what is a "performance" mod. Some people think going fast, stopping quick, or high G cornering mean performance, others think getting a trophy in a car show is high performance. How many MM owners have powder coated valve covers and intake manifolds? And have never had their Marauder on a track? If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you think it's too expensive, try to find it elsewhere for less. A b*tch session like this can kill a product offering that others may be interested in. How about somebody who wants to send in all their dot-matrix interior panels for the fake carbon fiber treatment.

Well put Sir!! WE (Partners) left this thread open. No one is hiding anything. There are lots of "items" members have on their cars and I never say anything but good words. My car is stock except for sway bars (Dennis) and control arm (M&Z) window tint, remote start, heated seats, lower stripe, front & rear badge. Some members have told me they would not even do what I did? Everyone of these cars hasm a personal touch. BY OWNER!!
Live and let live:)

sailsmen

03-09-2007, 04:04 PM

Mad4Macs

03-09-2007, 04:31 PM

"Maybe if more info and stories were told it would improve business practices and relations on both sides."

All LV did was bad mouth Dennis.

LV did not state any facts, only his own presonal opinions. I suspect LV did so because Dennis responded to a comment LV made.

It would be the equivalent of me saying LV was an !@##$%%,!@$% based on the fact that I did not like his avatar.

"Just the facts".

Exactly.
DR put forward a product, that's all. In no way did he lie about what it was, either. If he had said "I've got this great carbon fiber component", then shipped you a steel one, now that would be a lie and fraudulent.
No one here gives a flying leap whether or not LV think's it's "lame", he came out and accused a company of commiting fraud. In effect, he lied about DR's business practices.
What he did was so far out in left field, it's flippin' spooky.

MarauderMark

03-09-2007, 04:39 PM

.

First, the original thread was locked because I sent Dennis a link to an old thread about the original CF radiator cover GP. From that thread he learned that he was mistaken on the price that Kelly paid for the cover he had. Kelly did spend over $700, as DR stated. But he got 3 of them, and they weren't the CF version they were just fiberglass because he wanted to paint them. The orignal GP price was $250 for the CF ones, about 2 years ago. The manufacturer lost money on them and it took a lot of aggravation to get them to finish the project. Some orders may not have ever been filled, refunds may have been issued. IF they were to make another run of the true CF ones, I would imagine the cost would be around $400.

Yeah i got of these for about $400 with custom paint done to it just to have fed ex break it in 3 places , Man it was a nice peice of art work that never made it to my car.:bigcry:

KillJoy

03-09-2007, 04:52 PM

Man...$250 for a REAL CF Cover.....I'd do that! And I like low key!!!

KillJoy

Smokey

03-09-2007, 10:18 PM

No, I do not own a Marauder but I still enjoy them. As for Dennis, I have had only have "minor" dealings with him. I purchased my SCT PRP from him as well as a tune for my Crown Vic. He was always helpful and took time to answer all my questions. In my limited capacity I have had a good experience when dealing with DR. Just my .0000002 cents worth. :)

Raudermaster

03-09-2007, 10:30 PM

Jesus. I was scared just reading this thread! WTF is this forum coming to??!! For christ sakes, SVTP, CVN, and thousands of other forums have WAY MORE members than we do, and they all get along!! You don't like the stuff he offers, don't buy from him, plain and simple! Why does all of this non-sense have to occur here? I have no input really, I just wanted to bring the sanity back to this site.

BigMerc

03-09-2007, 10:39 PM

Man How'd I miss this one? Seems a lot to do over a piece of painted plastic.

Reinhart has done a lot for the Marauder, some like him some don't, but coward and liar because he's selling a piece of equipment? a little much. I frequently ask for his opinion and he readily gives it, I haven't purchased anything from him in a long time either. Thats a good sign guys.

The only thing saw good out of this is that someone else thinks defyantwife is annoying also.:P

Marauder386

03-09-2007, 10:47 PM

I have read this thread through repeatedly since its demonic conception...I present to you my dealings with Dennis Reinhart for your flaming or support...

RoadPig 1 developed serious transmission problems 4 months into her rebirth. DR was called, lengthy chat ensued with no screaming or threats from either side. " Get RoadPig to me any way you can so I can make this right", was his exact quote. With my bizarre and hectic schedule this didnt happen for approximately another 4 months...but DR and I kept in contact and we knew it would happen as soon as life for both of us settled down. RP1 did get to Orange Park and DR,Steve,Tigger and myself dissected the transmission. A new Level 2 tranny with only my original Stallion TQ where reinstalled. I got to drive the BlueBeast of the shop for my overnight in Jacksonville which was an honor in itself. Do you want to know what the ticket was on this ? Guess !
Give up ? ZERO...NADA...ZILCH...Sure, I spent money on a trailer,hotel and food...but hell, I would do that just to hang around there and be a spare set of hands...

Enough of my pontificating...this is an example of Dennis Reinhart. Period. Stop the schoolyard bully stuff and lets enjoy our Marauders together as best we can...Theres only 11k of them...

:cool:

ctrlraven

03-09-2007, 10:55 PM

Wow, the things that go on while I'm at work or don't get on for a few days.

As it has been said a million times already if you don't like something then you don't buy it. People have to remember the Marauder is a one of kind car and their ONLY A FEW companies that make or custom make stuff for our car so yes the price of stuff is going to be more that's just how businesses run.

I've purchased a few things from DR and have never had a problem and will continue to buy things until otherwise.

Big Time

03-09-2007, 11:07 PM

I'm pretty sure that LV's main issue was that a lot of his post in the carbon fiber thread was deleted without explanation.

It must have seemed like an injustuce to him.

michael ward

03-10-2007, 12:33 AM

Cant We All Just Get Along ??

michael ward

03-10-2007, 12:34 AM

Behave Zack!!

Bigdogjim

03-10-2007, 05:51 AM

I'm pretty sure that LV's main issue was that a lot of his post in the carbon fiber thread was deleted without explanation.

It must have seemed like an injustuce to him.
I can not say for sure but, I guess if posts are being deleted on a thread they are off topic. I have posted deleted when Logan ran the show. It is life on the internet.

sailsmen

03-10-2007, 08:40 AM

Pat

03-10-2007, 08:59 AM

All have been good. Many of the big ticket items on my car were bought from DR Automotive. Dennis personnally expedited shipment of a major piece that was hung up in red tape.

I have purchased products from other vendors on this site and can testify to their excellent service and products.

I met Dennis at MV4 and, although he wouldn't remember me, he is a gregarious personality, helping the other racers in the staging area with technical tips, driving tips and generally being a man of service. Never saw him frown, just happy to be around what he considers his automotive family.

The assertion that he is a coward and fraud is out of character for him.

As with any personality there are several facets. Another member posted that he thought DR was "perfunctory". Over the phone he is, but it's like his time is limited so he doesn't mince words.

I will continue to buy products from DR Automotive, and if he was closer to me I would avail my car to his services.

Pat

chicago_cop

03-10-2007, 10:38 AM

Bigdogjim

03-10-2007, 10:43 AM

Ouote from LV;
"My problem is that I actively try to beat the time difference but never can, and when I offer up to DOUBLE the asking price of items I am turned down. Does that make much sense to anyone? It doesnt to me."

It is called integrity and it makes sense to me.
What is this in referance to? What is LV trying to beat the price on? Why is willing to pay double? For what? I do not understand the quote.
PM me if you care too:)
Thanks
Big Dog

MM03MOK

03-10-2007, 10:47 AM

What is this in referance to? What is LV trying to beat the price on? Why is willing to pay double? For what? I do not understand the quote.
PM me if you care too:)
Thanks
Big Dog
That was from the thread that LVM claimed using the Classified Section wasn't fair because he lives in the Pacific Time Zone, 3 hours after Eastern Time and misses out on all the great classified deals, even though he offers double the price on items already sold.

Bigdogjim

03-10-2007, 10:58 AM

Thanks Bunny:)

Cobra25

03-10-2007, 11:06 AM

I've seen alot of improvement over the past Year with Dennis Reinharts Business. And I respect that alot. Personal attack's are not welcome here of any kind. Let's keep it simple, If Vendor sells a product and you don't like it or the price don't buy it. I've bought many Items from Dennis over time and will continue to do so, if I want something he is selling.

MarauderMarc

03-10-2007, 03:13 PM

All of my dealings with DR have been a+.

Why is there always drama on here? ITS A FREAKIN CAR!!!! This is supposed to be your hobby,your favorite past time,your therapy....why let it turn into drama and stress you out? People these days....

Constable

03-10-2007, 03:22 PM

I seriously think that a "War Zone" forum should be added to this site (like SVTP has). Any big controversy can just be done in that particular forum... any threads that go a-stray can be moved there by admin. There are tons of problems between guys over there, but most wouldn't know it because it is pretty much all contained to the War Zone.

What do y'all think?

Blackened300a

03-10-2007, 03:24 PM

GreekGod

03-10-2007, 03:40 PM

... It's one of the events at MVV, didn't you hear? Everyone who participates gets a... 4 ft tall pink plush Dennis Reinhart custom bunny with MARAUDER embroidered on it! He's donating them!!!

I would like to get one of those bunnies. A group buy would be nice, but I want one regardless. Does anyone know the price? Shipping wouldn't be cheap, unless they could be sold/shipped without stuffing.

RCSignals

03-10-2007, 03:43 PM

We had that, It was called the Darkside.

the Dark side was not that

the Darkside completely replaced mm.net, and was Logan's attempt to show certain people why his moderating was necessity.
Unfortunately the ones it was targeted for, didn't get it, and still don't.
Most of them by the way have moved to another place, and now laughingly refer to ,net as the dark side.

SVT forums marauder forum has some interesting posts, since people went there after the Darkside, and after ,net was sold.
Some very enlightening stuff is there to read, at least until someone deltes it.

So, a 'Rant' or similar forum might work here, I've it used successfully on other boards.

ckadiddle

03-10-2007, 05:56 PM

Yes, of course. And all at once! It's one of the events at MVV, didn't you hear? Everyone who participates gets a... 4 ft tall pink plush Dennis Reinhart custom bunny with MARAUDER embroidered on it! He's donating them!!!
Sorry, Dennis....I think I just created .demand for a new product for you..

.:lol:

Bunny lady has spoken up, there's at least one sold already....can you set up a group buy on these????:D Come to think of it a four foot tall rabbit would be a GREAT place to hid your nitrous tank......heh heh heh heh I can see it now.... lookit the old fart in the four door with the spoiler and the pink bunny! I know I can bur n him with my Vtec 1.2 liter! Then :burnout: and I am goooooooooone......

ckadiddle

03-10-2007, 06:03 PM

Serious note:
I refuse to take ANYONE seriously that delves into hateful rants, name-calling and other childish behaviour. If you calmly tell a coherent story with dates, times places, witnesses, or can show me the evidence and provide me with contact numbers to verify your story in person then I will take you seriously. Compose yourself and your sentences slowly and carefully and edit out all the emotional adjectives. Otherwise you are just wasting my time and showing your lack of self control and your azz in public.

Constable

03-10-2007, 11:37 PM

I'm tellin ya... War Zone, Rant, whatever you want to call it... this site should have one. Personality conflicts have been tearing through this site for years. What could it hurt to try it out for a month or so?

Lay down some ground rules and "sticky" it on the top of the new category. Make it a members-only category and post a warning on it before allowing people in to view it. Make it the ONE place on the site that isn't 'family oriented'.

Utopia isn't possible, people... a place to get out your frustrations is necessary.

chapel1

03-11-2007, 05:56 AM

It appears Dennis is not bothered by any of this.
Good for you Dennis.

I Hope He sees it as many of us coming to his Defense as a business and businesman.
And not some one trying to KILL is BUSINESS and and his livelihood which he does trying to survive.
Slamming some ones business on the internet is wrong,way wrong!
In todays market any of us out there know how hard it is to make a buck.

2ndMDRebel

03-11-2007, 07:50 AM

I have read this thread through repeatedly since its demonic conception...I present to you my dealings with Dennis Reinhart for your flaming or support...

My car was in Dennis' shop at the same time yours was but unfortunately my experience with Reinhart has been the complete opposite. Well, I shouldn't say that, not completely.

When I first started putting some pep into the Crown Vic I ordered the basic bolt-ons from Dennis (the marauder airbox, steeda underdrives, t-stat/plugs, and xcal2) and later when I changed gears to 3.73 he emailed me a corrective tune the same day I called. Later got a proguard panel, no problems. My Vic was running 14.7 and I was happy as could be.

The idea came up to go a bit further and supercharge the car. After finding a great deal on a crate Marauder engine I contacted Dennis and he said he had done these conversions before and could set me up. We were going to have a complete transformation of the car and do a detailed writeup on the website here as a project. Everything was set, I was to drop the car off with him and rent a car until mine was done

Before dropping the car off several people tried to warn me about Dennis. Since I had excellent service from him previously I just took what they were saying as just bad blood. Little did I know then that what they were telling me and what I had read online on another site would come true during the next months. It was like watching an accident unfold in slow motion while holding a script to it in your hands.

At the end of things I got my car back and it was unfinished and was barely driveable. I won't go into all the faults but basically it wasn't tuned, there were clearance issues, electrical problems, and other things that ended up costing me out of my pocket close to $1500, and thats after paying him over $15,000 (prepaid) to do the job. I did contact Dennis but it was like talking to someone with amnesia, just utter frustration and anger, especially after he asked me to pay for a replacement oil line that was rubbing against the p/s pulley and was damaged and when doing some of the corrective work on the car I found some issues that make me believe some of the parts put on my car were previously used or not really replaced at all. I gave up on him after that and I do not recommend him as a vendor to anyone and will personally not do business with him again.

I don't have a vendetta against him, been rather quiet about the whole affair actually, call it embarrassment, call it denial. I just see all these posts about great service and such and that has not been my experience. I know he has alot of happy customers but unfortunately I am not one of them, truly I wish that I were.

Blackmobile

03-11-2007, 08:17 AM

Sorry, Dennis....I think I just created .demand for a new product for you..

.:lol:

Bunny lady has spoken up, there's at least one sold already....can you set up a group buy on these????:D Come to think of it a four foot tall rabbit would be a GREAT place to hid your nitrous tank......heh heh heh heh I can see it now.... lookit the old fart in the four door with the spoiler and the pink bunny! I know I can bur n him with my Vtec 1.2 liter! Then :burnout: and I am goooooooooone......

It also would be great in the HOV lanes too.

Bradley G

03-11-2007, 06:07 PM

Dennis Reinhart

03-11-2007, 06:52 PM

Tom.

I have been at <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "[/IMG]<font" /><st1:City><st1:place>Bradenton</st1:place></st1:City> all week I am am sun burnt and worn out. I just read this. All you have to do is call me in the morning, its been a year since we have spoken, and over the last four months I have sent you 5 PMs that have gave gone unanswered, the last PM I told you I would send you a Live wire if you sent me the old tuner for g free, that is a 600 dollar value and I said you could have Lido put his file on it that, PM went unanswered I have called and never got a call a back the car was sent here with out a mark on it left the same, imaculate, you did call and tell me of the issues with the car. The issues with the wiring was a simple one that I missed. I you told me you had good dealer there that could T/S the wiring I also told you I would pay the labor bill which I never got. The dealer there found I think you said three wires that needed to be swapped, from the factory 2 Valve wiring harness, that were out of place from the four valve harness that came with the motor. I am not perfect I never stated I was, I am sorry that you are unhappy but this is the first thing I have seen since the car left here. The car I built has turned out very well,the thread is on here and any one can go look at it. We installed the motor and upgraded transmission along with a full Kooks exhaust and Marauder tips will be added, we installed Ronal 18” wheels with BFG on all four corners. PHP upper and lower control arms and a Art Car deep Pan on the trans.

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I have been on this site from the beginning I sold thousands of parts, to a thousand customers. I have the pleasure tuning the Florida Highway Patrol Marauders as well as The Georgia State Police the Secret Service. I am now in the process of doing 50 Police cars In Kentucky. I have st-rived to improve my customer service and I try to do right when I have failed no one is perfect, I was the first person to ever offer tuning for a Marauder, I had Dynoteh make the drive shaft for this car I had ADDCO come up with sway bars I had Mossier make the Axial's. I had KVR make brake rotors and lines. I had EBC make brakes and lines I had Art car make a transmission pan and a transmission rebuild kit, I am so tired I am sure I am forgetting things what I am saying is every one makes mistakes especially when you consider the quantity of parts I have sold in five years and as many cars as I have worked on, I started in a one bay dark gloomy shop I have as good as facility that can be found any where . This is my life this is how I make my living, every performance gets complaints. Tom I am sorry I disappointed you call me tomorrow I will talk to you then. I want the members here to know, I unlocked this thread, I was tired of a few people stating that the moderators take up for me, they don't, and neither did <st1:City><st1:place>Logan</st1:place></st1:City>. If you have a problem pick the phone up and call me or Jackie we will do what ever we can to he

magindat

03-12-2007, 05:51 AM

Zack

03-12-2007, 06:56 AM

In a similar instance, not too long ago, A well known member, called out a well known and respected vendor.
The results were amazing, said vendor, offers a :flamer:discount and sells a *****load of product.

And then makes the worst business decision of his life and leaves MM.net.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Only AFTER showing his true colors to everyone.

fastblackmerc

03-12-2007, 06:59 AM

And then makes the worst business decision of his life and leaves MM.net.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Only AFTER showing his true colors to everyone.

Now why add that?????

Not constructive......

Just stupid.

ASS

merc

03-12-2007, 07:06 AM

And then makes the worst business decision of his life and leaves MM.net.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Only AFTER showing his true colors to everyone.

Zack, you did it again...

http://www.excessivemotorsport.net/vb/images/smilies/gayalarm.gif

94_302

03-12-2007, 07:18 AM

I had Art car make a transmission pan and a transmission rebuild kit

I'm really not trying to start anything, however Art Carr is a pretty good size company and the 4r70 has been around for a while. They really did not have a tranny pan or rebuild kit for it until the Marauder came out? Or are you saying those are Marauder specific? If so what makes the Marauder 4r70 so different from any other Ford 4r70?

Zack

03-12-2007, 09:06 AM

Now why add that?????

Not constructive......

Just stupid.

ASS

Zack, you did it again...

http://www.excessivemotorsport.net/vb/images/smilies/gayalarm.gif

Either one of you is more than welcome to correct me if my staements are wrong.
Your thoughts about me are not relevant, nor does anyone care to hear them.

Maybe TAF will post up about me over there, but thats about it.
Sorry guys.

MM03MOK

03-12-2007, 09:19 AM

Enough, already. If you have a question for Dennis, start another thread. This one's done.

The thread title has been changed. Of his own choosing, LVMarauder has opted for a permanent vacation instead of making amends. Threats of retribution will not be tolerated.