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offroadkarter

03-16-2007, 12:05 PM

I believe its a 300B, but ill ask the experts! (The GT badge on the rear just looks awful! :confused: )

Really nice mercury marauder (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=217339497&dealer_id=625972&car_year=2004&search_type=both&num_records=25&keywordsfyc=&make=MERC&transmission=&model=MARAUDER&distance=0&make2=&address=08850&default_sort=priceDESC&advanced=&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&body_code=0&end_year=2008&keywordsrep=&color=&start_year=2003&drive=&engine=&fuel=&doors=&style_flag=1&cardist=65)

Blackened300a

03-16-2007, 12:09 PM

300B, Manual fuel door and no clock in the dash

Shaft333

03-16-2007, 12:09 PM

Just based on the year 2004 says 300A.

AstroVic

03-16-2007, 12:10 PM

The pictures aren't very clear, but I don't think it matters. If I'm not mistaken, all 2004 models share the same characteristics as the 300B models from the 2003 year.

Blackened300a

03-16-2007, 12:11 PM

I completely ignored the year. Have RoyLpita run the vin, he'll tell you the history of the car.

If it was a 03 it would be a 300B :D

magindat

03-16-2007, 12:17 PM

It's over-priced.

offroadkarter

03-16-2007, 12:18 PM

Wow thanks for the really fast responses!

Looks like a nice car, my first guess was B because of no clock in dash. Isnt there a T/C switch somewhere?

offroadkarter

03-16-2007, 12:21 PM

Ah its a B! Under model info it says traction control.

Now if i can get the price down 6k and find out exactly where it is, ill have a car 2 years early! :D

RCSignals

03-16-2007, 12:28 PM

300B, Manual fuel door and no clock in the dash

my 300B has a remote opening fuel door, clock in the dash, pockets on seat fronts, and a tinted band at the top of windsheild

High-C

03-16-2007, 12:29 PM

Did anyone catch this statement?

"Did You Know That A Black Marauder Sell's For An Average Of $2000 More Than Other Colors. However I,ve Kept The Price The Same as Others."

Maybe some non-black owners can chime in on this...

RCSignals

03-16-2007, 12:29 PM

The pictures aren't very clear, but I don't think it matters. If I'm not mistaken, all 2004 models share the same characteristics as the 300B models from the 2003 year.

Yes except don't all '04s have the short overhead console?

RCSignals

03-16-2007, 12:30 PM

jdando

03-16-2007, 12:35 PM

It is a 2004. Therefore it is a 300a. Only 2003 had 300a and 300b.

Shaft333 and Astrovic are correct and yes it is on the high end of price spectrum.

jeremy

Raudermaster

03-16-2007, 12:42 PM

Doesn't appear to have the pockets in the seats either, but maybe I'm blind and can't see them. That price is way high though.

High-C

03-16-2007, 12:46 PM

Alright... again I am thoroughly confused... Please excuse my ignorance. My Build date was: 11/17/03 and I have a manual fuel door, full size spare, and TC... Someone please clarify... I own a 300B... right?

High-C

03-16-2007, 12:49 PM

It is a 2004. Therefore it is a 300a. Only 2003 had 300a and 300b.

Shaft333 and Astrovic are correct and yes it is on the high end of price spectrum.

jeremy

Okay... All 2004's were 300a's because they were all the same with the exception of options? I think it's clearer now...

RCSignals

03-16-2007, 12:52 PM

Alright... again I am thoroughly confused... Please excuse my ignorance. My Build date was: 11/17/03 and I have a manual fuel door and TC... Someone please clarify... I own a 300B... right?

if your car is a 2003 then yes it is a 300B

High-C

03-16-2007, 12:57 PM

if your car is a 2003 then yes it is a 300B

Mine is a 2004 so I officially own a 300a... Actually if they only had one designation in 2004 they should all just be 300's... period.

RCSignals

03-16-2007, 01:08 PM

Mine is a 2004 so I officially own a 300a... Actually if they only had one designation in 2004 they should all just be 300's... period.

that would be logical, but Ford adds the A for all first series whether or not there ever is a 'B' or 'C' running change

High-C

03-16-2007, 01:21 PM

The sweet silence of understanding... Thanks fellas...

Bluerauder

03-16-2007, 01:26 PM

Nice green plastic valve caps on the wheels, too !! Floor mats missing ? How about the leather jacket ?

Black MM's are getting $2,000 more than Blue MM's? :rolleyes: Guess I will have to get mine painted. ;)

Maybe this means that depreciation has ceased and we are now on the uphill climb. :dunno:

offroadkarter

03-16-2007, 01:31 PM

agh this is confusing the crap out of me, ill look more ;)

High-C

03-16-2007, 01:38 PM

Black MM's are getting $2,000 more than Blue MM's? :rolleyes: Guess I will have to get mine painted...
Maybe the non-black CAMMERS can get a group rate from Earl Scheib in Alexandria....;)

cyclopsram

03-16-2007, 02:07 PM

All 2004s are 300A.... 300A equates to Job 1... The exchange of the fullsize spare for the traction control marked the Job 2... or 300B in 2003. All Canadian 2003s were 300B. To take it a line further... M79 Vins are 2004 300A....

cyclopsram

03-16-2007, 02:12 PM

General decontenting of 2003 Panthers as a costsavings measure lost you the front seat pockets, stand alone clock, underhood light, remote fuel door, automatic e brake release and a whole bunch of little thingies not seen or heard of too much... like the change in the windshield tinting.. etc etc.

The Big Stu

03-16-2007, 02:17 PM

High-C, you do have 300B...should have came with a mini spare though...IIRC

OneBADLsE

03-16-2007, 03:05 PM

I'm gonna offer the guy 17900 and see if he bites. I'm already out there alot so i might as well. and if he bites, ill be the new owner of a 2004 marauder LOL

offroadkarter

03-16-2007, 03:05 PM

So only the 03's have traction control?

jdando

03-16-2007, 03:21 PM

So only the 03's have traction control?

Are you using the new fuzzy logic:shake:?

2003 300b and 2004 300a have traction control.

Look for the switch to the left of the steering wheel, next to the pedal adjustment.

jeremy

Canadasvt

03-16-2007, 03:38 PM

Vehicle Information Report
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Blackened300a

03-16-2007, 03:45 PM

I'm gonna offer the guy 17900 and see if he bites. I'm already out there alot so i might as well. and if he bites, ill be the new owner of a 2004 marauder LOL

Thats more then what I paid for my 03 back in 05 that was ceritifed with less miles.
My former co-worker bought his Certifed 04 with a sunroof, 6 cd changer and rear spolier back in 05 as well with only 14k miles for a little over $25k.

This guy is way too high on his numbers

RCSignals

03-16-2007, 03:51 PM

Nice green plastic valve caps on the wheels, too !!....................

That's obviously just a nice touch for St Patrick's day.

offroadkarter

03-16-2007, 03:55 PM

Are you using the new fuzzy logic:shake:?

2003 300b and 2004 300a have traction control.

Look for the switch to the left of the steering wheel, next to the pedal adjustment.

jeremy

Thats all i needed to hear!

Jeez im a noob :(

jgc61sr2002

03-16-2007, 04:50 PM

2003DOHC

03-16-2007, 05:11 PM

That's obviously just a nice touch for St Patrick's day.

Green caps = nitrogen filled tires.

2003DOHC

03-16-2007, 05:13 PM

High-C, you do have 300B...should have came with a mini spare though...IIRC

Nope all 2004 models are 300A.

RCSignals

03-16-2007, 05:51 PM

Green caps = nitrogen filled tires.

Maybe that's why the price is what it is

2003DOHC

03-16-2007, 06:09 PM

Maybe that's why the price is what it is

Well there is a looming helium shortage but I think the supply of nitrogen is still plentiful:D

whd507

03-16-2007, 06:17 PM

a 2004 is a 300a, but the same features as a 2003 300b. so why the random examples with extra features? they just found a box of parts?

RCSignals

03-16-2007, 06:37 PM

a 2004 is a 300a, but the same features as a 2003 300b. so why the random examples with extra features? they just found a box of parts?

The first production of 300Bs was before the decontenting, about a month of production Oct/Nov 2002

SID210SA

03-17-2007, 07:32 AM

I paid $662.00 more for my Marauder and it was new with 7 miles and a Moon Roof.....

SMOKE

03-17-2007, 01:28 PM

Jeez, are they asking a pretty penny for that one...

SamF

03-17-2007, 01:32 PM

I paid $662.00 more for my Marauder and it was new with 7 miles and a Moon Roof.....

Really? That was a deal!

RCSignals

03-17-2007, 02:25 PM

Really? That was a deal!

There were some deals on new ones.
Every talks about the msrp but many sold well under.

$9,000 to $10,000 under msrp wasn't too unusual

fo course there were the dealers who thought they could 'add' a 'premium' right up until the end

SamF

03-17-2007, 03:20 PM

I think the best deal I was offered was 27K on a new one in late 02. But I had just bought a new house and a Harley so it took 4 years to finally get a Marauder...used :D

Mike Poore

03-17-2007, 05:30 PM

Nice green plastic valve caps on the wheels, too !!

Charlie, they're putting green valve caps on when the tires are purged then filled with Nitrogen. It's the latest dealer :bs: scam, you can't do without.

Now that we're thrashed oil and filters to a faretheewell, we can beat the Nitrogen in the tires theories to death. :shake:

SID210SA

03-18-2007, 05:49 AM

Really? That was a deal!

Yep, Really, I also got free oil changes for 3yr/36K, 1 year of unlimited car washes at a local hand wash facility....they have been washing my car going on my third year now....I have upped my membership 2 times, and 50% discount on the Spoiler, and about 40% discount on the remote start alarm. So I made out like a bandit IMHO.:)

jimlam56

03-18-2007, 06:24 AM

Blackened300a

03-18-2007, 05:40 PM

Well instead of making a phone call, I trekked all the way out with Lenny (OneBadLSE) to look at this overpriced Marauder, Well when we arrived we were promptly told that the car was sold and picked up by a guy upstate that bought the car without looking at it or taking it for a test drive. :confused:
I asked how much it went for and that was the $100,00 question nobody could answer so maybe someone within the dealership put the price up that high to buy some time so they could purchase it themselves.

ncmm

03-18-2007, 08:34 PM

$23K would be a good price if it had less than 10K miles, $17K at the most for the miles it has, plus Black ones are more plentiful, I've found the Blue, Reds and Silvers sell at a premium.

High-C

03-19-2007, 09:41 AM

I paid $662.00 more for my Marauder and it was new with 7 miles and a Moon Roof.....
WOW... Thats pretty inexpensive... You guys would freak out at what I paid for mine in October w/ 714 miles...

OneBADLsE

03-19-2007, 10:50 AM