Vortech Non IC almost done

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well I have had Mikes car here and was waiting to get back from Kentucky, to finish it up and its almost there, below are several shots of a new Maf blow through configuration we are testing for bot non IC and IC S/C systems, I will post more pictures when I can.

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[KillJoy]

Any benifit for those of us w/ the other setup?

KillJoy

[sailsmen]

The idea of a non IC is to get you into some more power for a reasonable amount of $$.

If the client wants more power down the road they can buy an IC and turn up the boost.

Any idea on how much boost, in the 6 range?

[Marauder386]

Hmm...interested in this experiment..I do note the Diablo MAFia over there to the righ in pic # 2 ...

:cool:

[thePunisher]

very interested in the i/c version.....keep us posted on results

[FordNut]

Looking good. Anxious to see the power and IAT measurements.

[Dennis Reinhart]

We fired it up today waiting to get it on the dyno, it idles perfect and has great throttle responce.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/6/03maraudernoicsc.jpg

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[Joe Walsh]

That looks nice!

Simple install too.

Reminds me of the 'Old School' 5.0 Mustang S/C kits.

I know that the whole idea was to make a low dollar S/C kit, but that is just begging for a low $$$ Methanol injection kit....especially in HOT Florida.

[MarauderTJA]

Looks good Dennis:up:

[Dennis Reinhart]

That looks nice!

Simple install too.

Reminds me of the 'Old School' 5.0 Mustang S/C kits.

I know that the whole idea was to make a low dollar S/C kit, but that is just begging for a low $$$ Methanol injection kit....especially in HOT Florida.


I agree but the whole point is a affordable S/C system, and I am very pleased so far, the proof will be the dyno and data of course this could make more power with a Meth kit, but that is over 300.00, but yes it could be added as well as a after cooler later on.

[bryanthomas]

So what are we talking about price wise? And how much boost are you running? 5 or 6 PSI?

[Dennis Reinhart]

This is a satin S Trim with a 3.6 Pulley, but it has a small inlet, the same blower with a 4" inlet and after cooler makes about 440 RWHP at 10 PSI.
I will not know exact boost till its on the dyno, I am shooting for tomorrow, the kit is not finalized yet I wanted to get this right at 4K, which I do feel comfortable with, again lets wait till I get it on the dyno.

[rvaldez1]

looks great! cant wait to see the sheets.

[Haggis]

...below are several shots of a new Maf blow through configuration we are testing for bot non IC and IC S/C systems...

Dennis Reinhart doing a blow through configuration....:eek:

[Marauderjack]

Interesting......

I have said it before and once again.....6 PSI will amaze you for street driving and if this thing will make 6 PSI safely and at a good price.....IT WILL SELL WELL!!!

Dennis,

Could a Meth kit be used to safely make 10 PSI without an intercooler??:confused: If so this could be a simple install (IC plumbing is "fun":rolleyes: ) at a lower price that will safely kick butt!!!:eek: :beer: :bows:

Good Luck!!

Marauderjack:burnout:

[RUSTY]

Lots of room for a meth kit were the old air filter was

[Dennis Reinhart]

The car made 381 RWHP and 361 RWT the IAT was 182 degrees @5800 on the dyno, the car a total of about 12 degrees timing at a 1.23 load, this is a dam good number, and I am willing to bet the car could make 400.00 safely, I did back the timing off and clean up the AF, but this was my 8th pull so the car was warm. I will be driving the car data logging it, and going over the data, and I will put it back on the dyno later this week, this car has stock gears and stock converter, it starts and runs great, thanks every one for the support and thanks Michael for the donor car.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/6/md1data.jpg

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[O's Fan Rich]

Dennis, whoever does your pipe fab ups sure does a nice job.

[magindat]

I was in Dennis' shop all day today and was lucky enough to see this beast come to life. It started and idled fine... better than stock with a base file in the ECM. I helped DR strap it down and heard and watched most of the day for pull after pull. After about 3 pulls, each next pull was followed by WOW!

The thing souns awesome. Just like a private jet during take off. Now that's what Donk will have. A low-flying jet! Congrats, Michael. It's a real nice setup!

[Zack]

Install the GT pump voltage tables and I bet that A/F will come down.
Catch code is AER3

[KillJoy]

Nice number Dennis!

I guess that just shows how much power that little Vortech can make!!!

I am looking forward to the week-end report ;)

KillJoy

[FordNut]

Great job Dennis.

[rvaldez1]

Excellent work! great numbers! Im just waiting to see the kit price.

[KillJoy]

Excellent work! great numbers! Im just waiting to see the kit price.



the kit is not finalized yet I wanted to get this right at 4K, which I do feel comfortable with, again lets wait till I get it on the dyno.

:up:

KillJoy

[TheDonk]

The thing souns awesome. Just like a private jet during take off. Now that's what Donk will have. A low-flying jet!
I guess I'll have to get me a set of wings for my Marauder Tshirt!:D

The numbers look fantastic, better than I expected. A gain of 100+ HP
over my previous tune.:2thumbs:
I'm finding it hard to wait for my turn to drive it!
Thanks Dennis for your hard work, :bows:
I'm sure I'll be pleased w/ the final product.

[Raudermaster]

Dennis I thought you were going to use the "E-trim" on the lower budget S/C?

[Dennis Reinhart]

Dennis I thought you were going to use the "E-trim" on the lower budget S/C?

The cost difference is only 100.00 this kit has turned out very well. I will have final pictures and pricing later this week.

[magindat]

I guess I'll have to get me a set of wings for my Marauder Tshirt!:D

The numbers look fantastic, better than I expected. A gain of 100+ HP
over my previous tune.:2thumbs:
I'm finding it hard to wait for my turn to drive it!
Thanks Dennis for your hard work, :bows:
I'm sure I'll be pleased w/ the final product.

Michael, your car is no joke. I followed DR around while he was data-logging and that SOB is FAST!!!! It's real quiet, too. The whine isn't very loud 'till you get on it.

You shoulda seen Dennis while it was on the dyno getting tuned. He'd tweak a little and grin, and tweak little and get happier, then he finally came out doing the happy-dance standing on his head and had us all come look! It's bad-ass and safe, too.

[ckadiddle]

Donk, I am getting jealous! :)

[magindat]

Dennis, Gizmo, Tigger, Molly, Laura, and Mr Kitty after a hard day tuning!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/5/4/8/PIC00013.jpg

[magindat]

The Donk, The Man, Magindat!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/5/4/8/PIC00002.jpg

[Dennis Reinhart]

Dennis, Gizmo, Tigger, Molly, Laura, and Mr Kitty after a hard day tuning!

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Rich, I will KILL you for this, :flamer: and have filed divorce proceedings on my new wife, of 15 years, to allow this.

[1stMerc]

Way to go Dennis, nice looking kit and numbers. How is this going to do when the real temperatures kick in?

[magindat]

Rich, I will KILL you for this, :flamer: and have filed divorce proceedings on my new wife, of 15 years, to allow this.

Yeah, well, gotta DIE of something, I guess. Bring it on!!!!

I have 2 sisters. One day they approached as I slept. The older one (11) said, "He's so cute when he's sleeping." The other (at about age 4) retorted, "Yeah, but he's UGLY when he's awake!"

:beer:

By the way... I HAD to. Jackie Double Dog Dared me! :o

Oh yeah, and thanks for the sly Reinhart Automotive sticker on my air dam!!! I thought I'd ran over a critter!!!!

[RUSTY]

So?
I got to know how this is going.ie: more info

[TheDonk]

Made the trip to DR's yesterday afternoon to pick up the
finished product. Took it for a test drive and wow what a
diffference. After one more test drive and final tweaking
I was on my way home w/ a bigger grin than before.

A quick summary - DR wanted to provide an alternative to
his "full-blown" Vortech kits. His solution was a non-intercooled,
blow through configuration utilizing an S-Trim.
I provided a platform that was essentially "stock" for his initial
build - a stock rearend, U/D pulleys, CAI kit, and a Jerry W.
dyno-tune.

The before numbers were 255 RWHP and 275 RWTQ.
The final results - 375 RWHP and 355 RWTQ.

Dennis and his people took very good care of my car and
provided a clean, good looking installation.
I have to add that Dennis also went an extra step and
provided alternate transportation for my use during the
install (other than his normal loaner vehicle - a tricycle:) ).
Thanks so much Sheila!

I'm sure that Dennis will provide a re-cap of the project
from his aspect along w/ some final pics.

Thanks again Dennis.

[magindat]

Congrats, Michael. That thing is a beast and I can't wait 'till I can afford one!
Have fun with it!!!

Sounds like he took a little more timing out to make it safer for Florida heat. Still quite a gain!!!!

[RCSignals]

Any up dates on this non-IC set up? Differences between installs or does it perform consitently?

Any more owner testimonials?

[Dennis Reinhart]

Any up dates on this non-IC set up? Differences between installs or does it perform consistently?

Any more owner testimonials?

Well RC I think Michael Donker has expressed his satisfaction, but yes we sold one Kit Monday, the customer is driving up from South Florida tomorrow, I am putting him in a loaner car, and his car will be done Friday, were installing the kit tomorrow.

Along with this, we sold two Crown Victoria air to air kits and one for a Marauder air to air kit, the owner is also coming in later this month for his install. I will post pictures later on.

We also took in a immaculate white 2000 GM on Monday that we are installing a stock Marauder motor upgrading the exhaust and rear end, I will post all the pictures of this as well.

[RCSignals]

Thanks
I though a couple more were out there now and was curious for updates.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Thanks
I though a couple more were out there now and was curious for updates.


I understand, thank you for the interest. I will post pictures later this week.

[Pat]

Dennis;

In the thread you mentioned a pricing update, but I didn't see it.

Could you give us the latest price for this kit? I'm very interested in a May install.

I'll talk to you more at the Louisville meet.

Pat

[Zack]

Dennis;

In the thread you mentioned a pricing update, but I didn't see it.

Could you give us the latest price for this kit? I'm very interested in a May install.

I'll talk to you more at the Louisville meet.

Pat


Buy the A/A kit, free shipping this month

[Blackmobile]

Buy the A/A kit, free shipping this month

:eek: Wow, I have to get in on this one.

Douh!, too late, I'm already committed.;)

[Dennis Reinhart]

Dennis;

In the thread you mentioned a pricing update, but I didn't see it.

Could you give us the latest price for this kit? I'm very interested in a May install.

I'll talk to you more at the Louisville meet.

Pat


THe NOIC kit is 3995 plus shipping

[Paul]

What is included in this NOIC kit? as compared to the list of goodies with the A2A IC kit you have on your website?

[Zack]

What is included in this NOIC kit? as compared to the list of goodies with the A2A IC kit you have on your website?

Everything MINUS the intercooler and corresponding pipes ;)

[Paul]

Today I ordered one of these non-intercooled kits, using the Novi 1200 head unit. :D :D :D

[ImpalaSlayer]

niice paul. i will probaly get one of these when im ready. plenty of power for the street with out breaking the bank

[magindat]

Today I ordered one of these non-intercooled kits, using the Novi 1200 head unit. :D :D :D

Even better!!!! Self contained oiling - smart! Congrats, Paul!

[Paul]

Thanks Rich.

Hey Dennis - I suggest bumping this thread once in a while, since the Non-IC isn't listed on your site. I had nearly missed this thread to know it was available at a more affordable price.

[Dennis Reinhart]

I will add it to the site next week after the picnic, were packed up and ready to go.

[CVPete]

Looks real good Dennis!:beer:

[Dennis Reinhart]

Here is a update that got lost, when the site lost the gallery last year. Pat had the second NOIC kit I sold. I sold two more last month, and here is the pictures of the up graded air box 4" intake tube, Pat also runs N2O. This is a fairly inexpensive kit that is very easily upgradeable to a full A/A kit. the NOIC makes about 360 RWHP with out N2O.


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[Pat]

Dennis is too modest. The car as delivered made 398.94 HP, 365.19 ft lbs of torque and 9.91 lbs of boost @ 6K RPM, measurement is SAE, smoothing= 5.

The system is three years old and I can recommend it. The NOVI Self lubriction is very reliable and consistent. Changing the fluid is easy and quick.



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[Dennis Reinhart]

Thank you Pat, I lost the dyno history when I lost a hard drive on the dyno, those are great numbers that some eaton and Vortech IC kits do not make, and you are NOIC.

[hakisaki]

loooks good!!!

[Paul]

I have the same kit, minus the nitrous, plus the cobra exhaust manifold, hi-flow cats, and x-pipe Dennis put on for prior owner back in the "early days". Rest of exhaust is stock. Also have 4.10 gears. My dyno numbers are bigger (link in signature), car has run without problems for last 30k miles as my DD.

[musclemerc]

OK I have to ask you Dennis. Why did'nt you market this kit? I'm sure it would have been an option for guys like me that want a centri SC kit on the cheap.

How much for the NOIC kit?

[Dennis Reinhart]

OK I have to ask you Dennis. Why did'nt you market this kit? I'm sure it would have been an option for guys like me that want a centri SC kit on the cheap.

How much for the NOIC kit?


The kit has always been for sale, as I said I have sold a several of these, and I have upgraded it, a turn key kit is 3895.00.

[Dennis Reinhart]

What is included in this NOIC kit? as compared to the list of goodies with the A2A IC kit you have on your website?


The NOIC comes wit injectors Maf fuel pump Xcal 3 new fan new reservoir new lower radiator hose cross over tube adapters lower radiator hose and the pipes with air box and K&N air cleaner.

[SGT_MERC]

How much is the complete non I/C set up for on 05 GM?

[Dennis Reinhart]

It is the exact same kit as the Marauder only one pipe is different 3895.00

[SGT_MERC]

Does the kit come with everything I would need to do it my self, except the tools? What is the catch can members talk about? Never dealt with F/I before.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Does the kit come with everything I would need to do it my self, except the tools? What is the catch can members talk about? Never dealt with F/I before.


There is no catch can, the car will need to go on a dyno at some point. And yes it is easy to install any other questions why not just give me a call.

[musclemerc]

:cool: Did someone say catch can? :cool:

[SGT_MERC]

Yes, what is the cost of a catch can? Will I need to supply my own oil lines and clamps to plumb it in or do they come with? Thank You.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Yes, what is the cost of a catch can? Will I need to supply my own oil lines and clamps to plumb it in or do they come with? Thank You.


As I have tried to explain there is no catch can PLEASE just call I will carefully explain all questions.

[SGT_MERC]

Sorry Dennis, I was answering musclemercs comment.