Hi, first post and a question?

[Aren Jay]

Hi

I am the Diabolical1 CC

This is my first post, I am a former Ford owner and future Marauder owner. I have been a Marauder fan since they first came out. I live in Alberta (Calgary) and I currently drive a Subaru Legacy sedan.

I have a deposit on a 2004 DTR and am just working out how to sell or trade in my Subie and pickup my Marauder.

So my question:

How many Marauders are there in Canada, in particular DTR's?

[Peter]

Welcome!
I think I know what mm your talking about ;)
There were only 470 MMs for Canada.
There is approximately 3 DTRs....

[KillJoy]

Welcome!
I think I know what mm your talking about ;)
There were only 470 MMs for Canada.
There is approximately 3 DTRs....


With number like that, I would pass. :rolleyes:

JUST BUY IT!!!!

:D

KillJoy

[Peter]

With number like that, I would pass. :rolleyes:

JUST BUY IT!!!!

:D

KillJoy

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What Steve said!

[Master]

Welcome to the club from Halifax! I'm pretty sure there are more than three Canadian DTR's :) I've seen about that many here in Nova Scotia. Even two blues spotted. Whatever you get, enjoy, and I look forward to your first impressions. Don't forget to mark MVV on your calendar.

[RUSTY]

Welcome, Lots of helpful info on this site.
Enjoy

[JMan]

Welcome aboard! Better get the Flames to turn up the heat or they'll be golfing the rest of the month! I guess the 'Wings figured out what not to do last season.

DTR's have really grown on me. With only three built for Canada, it might be a good one to "swoop" up. Besides the good looks and great sound, they're very tough cars that ride and handle well. A truly wonderful road car. I know there are some "roads" in Alberta, just beckoning for a jaunt!

Best luck and enjoy the site,

JMan

[Mike Poore]

:welcome1:

Although I'm not up on Canada road conditions in the winter, I'd re-consider selling the Subaru, or at least, getting a winter beater. Many folks, realizing the rarity of the MM and for other reasons, choose to park theirs for the winter months.

[chader]

hey congrats.....get it you'll love it......another Calgarian????

[Local Boy]

Aloha,
Welcome to the site. This is a great place to make friends, and get huge amounts of info. These people know thier stuff! Good luck on your purchase.

[quota]

Welcome to the Club !

It happens that I also have a Subaru -Impreza Outback. My wife drives it. But as Mike said, think before selling your Subaru. At least here in Quebec -which is probably a part of Canada - the winters are harsh and long. I had again last night a snow storm, + 20 cm accumulation, and I am quite happy driving these days my MGM LSE 2003. Very happy also is my MM, sleeping in her garage...

JP

[Peter]

Hey - Just get steelies and Bridgestone Blizzaks and your set, with that the MM is a go in the winter!

[jgc61sr2002]

Welcome to the MM site.:D :welcome:

I also think you should keep the Subaru if possible.

[99SVT]

Yeah, the Marauder works well in Alberta winters, especially with steelies and winter tires. My biggest complaint is the stupid drivers in the city that can never seem to learn to drive in winter, followed by all the rocks that get thrown up from the 4X4 trucks running around. (stupid stone chips)

Welcome to the site! Lots of information here and a lot of knowledgable people.

[MADRODER]

Hello from Ontario............if you can financially do it , keep the sub and GO FOR IT!!!

[Aren Jay]

Part of the reason for getting the Marauder is to get away from cars I don't fit into, very well.

My Subie is an ok short range car, but for longer trips I need something I can stretch out in a bit. Then there is the problem of hitting my head on the roof every time I hit a speed bump and leg cramps have been bothering me lately so that if I drive the Subie for more than an hour I need to get out and walk around for 5+ minutes to walk it off.

I might get myself a different AWD/4WD in the future, the Suzuki SX4 for instance is a great fitting car. But right now all I need is one car. I looked at the SX4 but for the same money I picked this Marauder.

I also considered a VW Phaeton and a Mercedes G500 but they are both $$$$$'s more.

I'll find out Tomorrow what TheCarStore guys say the Subie is worth and then expidite my Marauder purchase. One way or the other.

[RoyLPita]

Welcome aboard. Enjoy the site.

[Cobra25]

Welcome to the site. It's a really fun car, your going to love it.

[Aren Jay]

Well I'm holding the Purchase order for the Marauder.

27545km (17109 miles) 2004 Mercury Marauder Red.

Now I need to go to the bank and empty out my account and then wait for delivery.

Anybody else buy their Marauder over the net?

[Mike Poore]

Good move. You've got all spring and summer to go searching for your winter beater. Meanwhile, enjoy the DTR.

[Aren Jay]

I guess I picked the Marauder to be my people mover and winter car, as well as a great car for the rest of the year. I was also considering a Lightning but need more than 3 seats. I also keep hearing contradictory information on whether they have traction control. Couldn't see myself driving a RWD in snow without it again. Although a pickup could be handy for moving stuff, towing, etc...

I checked with Luke from Tirerack and he suggested to
do this

215/65-16 front
and
225/70-16 rear

and go with the Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow
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[crouse]

Welcome!
I think I know what mm your talking about ;)
There were only 470 MMs for Canada.
There is approximately 3 DTRs....


Is the 470 included in the grand total of 11,052? If so, that means that there are only 10,582 in the US. Minus any that have been destroyed.

[Sully008]

I guess I picked the Marauder to be my people mover and winter car, as well as a great car for the rest of the year. I was also considering a Lightning but need more than 3 seats. I also keep hearing contradictory information on whether they have traction control. Couldn't see myself driving a RWD in snow without it again. Although a pickup could be handy for moving stuff, towing, etc...

I checked with Luke from Tirerack and he suggested to
do this

215/65-16 front
and
225/70-16 rear

and go with the Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow
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Welcome to the site, fellow Canuck! Good choice on the winter tires. You will need them. I'm using them as well, but 215s on the rear. I don't think your TC will go bonkers with those offsets.

[96DiamondVIII]

I also keep hearing contradictory information on whether they have traction control. Couldn't see myself driving a RWD in snow without it again.
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Traction Control was added part way through the 2003 production run, when they switched from the 300A to 300B series. So yours, being a 2004, does indeed have TC.

[Aren Jay]

Sorry I meant traction control on the Lightning.

Did Canadian Marauders ever come without Traction control?

I looked at one with the front seat map pocket, lumbar button, traction control, no heated seats, 2003 black up here but for $1000 less than what I paid for my DTR.

Just waiting for my DTR to be shipped over now.

[QWK SVT]

Sorry I meant traction control on the Lightning.

Did Canadian Marauders ever come without Traction control?

I looked at one with the front seat map pocket, lumbar button, traction control, no heated seats, 2003 black up here but for $1000 less than what I paid for my DTR.

Just waiting for my DTR to be shipped over now.

:welcome: You'll love your MM!

Every Canadian Marauder came with traction control (due to the winter weather), including my early 300A. Lightnings, on the other hand, never did. Trust me, the Lightning is not an all season vehicle. Virtually no weight over the rear wheels and gobs of torque = no traction. I love my L, but am glad it goes into hibernation for the winter.

PS - I use Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 Winterbiters 225/60-16 front and 235/65-16 rear. When they wear down (been three winters, now), I'll be buying more of the same.

[Dr Caleb]

27545km (17109 miles) 2004 Mercury Marauder Red.

Welcome!

Dude, does it have a sunroof? There is one DTR in Calgary that has a factory sunroof. It's the only DTR in Canada with one.

You might have a 1 of a kind!

[Aren Jay]

Thankfully it does not. I'm too tall for sunroofs on most cars. It is funny that most sunroofs have the silly edge of the sunroof right overtop the front passengers heads. I've sat in Subaru's, with my head poking sideways out the sunroof/moonroof. Kia's Amanti is a nice looking car but even though the specs say it has more headroom than a Marauder, it doesn't. The dealer told me that "driving with my head tilted to the right was normal and that is how he drives." Mercedes in their older cars has the sunroof right near the edge of the door frame and this makes it ok, plus it has a springy cover which is also nice when you do bounce into it. The extra springy seats though are a major pain, like driving around sitting on a waterbed. I got sea sick sitting in the back of one of those. Porsche also has the too the edge sunroof. A good idea. In England I had a Toyota that had a tiny manual flip up sunroof, it wasn't very wide and didn't intrude on headroom. So far the only make that has a, above the head sunroof edge - sunroof that I can easily fit into is the 2003/2004+ Jaguar S-type, XJ series. Even the Towncar with a sunroof had me scrunching down to sit in the front seat.
The Jeep Wrangler Unlimited has problems all its own. I sat in one at the car show, Manual seat, no height adjustment. My head stuck out the roof and I could just look over the roll bar.

It is funny of the modern, 2006+ MY cars, Trucks, SUV's and crossovers there are very few that tall big people can sit comfortably in. It usually works out that the smallest of the cars are the only ones that the biggest people can fit comfortably into. (not counting those disgusting minivans). The bigger expensive cars we big people don't fit into. Sure there are a couple but not many.

(how long should I rant for?)

I have been car shopping for a long time, My Subie is just slightly too small. Since getting it 2.5 years ago I've realized I don't really fit, and driving scrunched down in the seat just isn't comfortable. About 8 months after getting it, it was necessary and did it's job, although for winter driving the first two years we only had 5 days of snow, and the NA engine in Subies lend themselves to pushbutton accelleration, push the button eventually you accellerate, after a short pause. They are also very boring to drive because they hold the road so well. Point A to Point B cars, press the button off you go.

Anyway I looked at the local Nissan Dealership. Gets raves in the paper every day, a friend was in need to replace his 89 Caprice deathtrap. So we popped in for a look. The Versa the smallest car they sell had just about everything, a little cheap and small, but loads of room inside, and affordable.

Everything else, we either hit our heads, knees, elbows or just couldn't climb into it. It is unbelievable that a Nissan Armada is so huge on the outside but so small on the inside.

The Smart car that was an experience all of it's own. I almost bought one, sitting inside with the glass roof, no problem headroom galore, knees didn't hit the dash and the thing is so small the front end looks like it ends right in front of the dash. Very cool little car. Not much cargo room though the rear rack helps for some things. Everything was great until I closed the door. My shoulder stuck out the window and my arm fell freely down the outside of the door. My left leg was pushed into the car and I ended up looking straight at the right A pillar. If only it was 6 inches wider. I would be driving the worlds safest motorcycle. With the sunroof I hit the roof though.

What does work for me is the much missed T roof. I had that in my Firebird and it was great. Although the front seat didn't move far enough back and the seatbelts had the position to slide across your neck just enough to choke you to death in an accident.

This last car show showed me that of everything there, not counting the minivans, I would only fit into the Jaguars, the Suzuki SX4 and the Lexus something460 L, but even that with the front passenger seat all the way forward didn't have enough rear legroom for me to make use of the power ottoman.

So I bought a Marauder, sans sunroof.


(the short form)

Sorry no sunroof thankfully. I don't fit into most cars with sunroofs.

PS I'm know for being rather prolific in my posts.

[Dr Caleb]

(the short form)

Sorry no sunroof thankfully. I don't fit into most cars with sunroofs.

PS I'm know for being rather prolific in my posts.

:cool: Rant on Hoser, rant on. It's a car to rant about.

One feature you may be unaware of, is the power seats. They lower, as well as tilt/recline. And the pedals move fore/aft as well.

I wonder, now that we have so many Albertan members, if a get-together will be in the works? :) Cruise the Red Mile, or Whyte ave.

[Aren Jay]

So how is "Toreador" pronounced?

[Rider90]

So how is "Toreador" pronounced?

TORE-UH-DOOR

but faster. Welcome! :beer:

[Aren Jay]

So how many Canadian DTR's came with Charcoal interiors?

Dictionary.com says: tawr-ee-uh-dawr

[Peter]

Is the 470 included in the grand total of 11,052? If so, that means that there are only 10,582 in the US. Minus any that have been destroyed.
Yes it is included in the total. Sorry I meant 13 not 3...darn keyboard...

[Peter]

So how many Canadian DTR's came with Charcoal interiors?

Dictionary.com says: tawr-ee-uh-dawr
I'm not sure, all three of the DTR MMs I seen here in Canada have charcoal interiors....

[Aren Jay]

13 DTR's?

Lucky Number 13!

:)

Does the 470 number represent just the 04 MY or 02 & 03 as well?

[Aren Jay]

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[Pops]

The bullets for the gun!

[RoyLPita]

Tell them you want pics and your own place to have the work done.

This is just my .02 and then some.

[Dr Caleb]

Tell them you want pics and your own place to have the work done.

This is just my .02 and then some.


X 2 !!!

Don't let them take it to Maaco for some pi$$ poor bondo job. Have it fixed where you want to, somewhere you trust.

That is the law in the GWN! Their insurance will pay to have it fixed to your satisfaction.

[Aren Jay]

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[Aren Jay]

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[JMan]

GWN?

Great White North. It's a yank term! Best of luck in your dealings, I hope everything comes out okay and to your satisfaction.

J

[Dr Caleb]

GWN?

Great White North. :confused:

Hope you have a successful outcome. Sucks having a car 'violated' before you even get to drive it.

[Aren Jay]

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[Dr Caleb]

I did a web search for GWN thinking it was some kind of legal term, or something to do with transporting cars... came up with nothing.

But yeah that makes sense.

Yank term? I was thinking SCTV.


No man, total SCTV term! Bob and Doug stuff!

http://sctvguide.ca/features/gwn_figurines1.jpg




I was wondering if I should email their headoffice rather than just resolve this locally. Any thoughts on that?

I'd deal with head office. The locals will just have to get them to approve charges anyway. Best to go to the top.

[Aren Jay]

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[Dr Caleb]

{they said} That I couldn't have the car fixed at a place of my choice because they, meaning Adesa, want to have it fixed at the cheap place they like using.

That is illegal. You are entitled to have YOUR car fixed at the place YOU choose.



I'm waiting for my Attorney to call back, he is in a very noisy meeting.

What should I do?

Should I call the RCMP?

Should I go have a flatbed pick up my Marauder and bring it to the place I want to work on it?

any thoughts?

Sick your lawyer on them. Do what he tells you. I'm sure he'll give you the same advice, it's your car, it's your decision.

A week to repair tells me it's more serious than a broken headlight. And we Marauder owners know, when a shop tells us it'll be OEM specs - they'll use the specs for a Grand Marquis or Crown Vic. Not the same thing. In many cases, close; in many other respects it's a totally different car.

[Aren Jay]

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[Dr Caleb]

For a front headlight and upper headlight caseing which was supposedly cracked, what replacement parts should they be using to fix this? How does it differ from the GM or CV parts?

The bezel around the headlight of a GM or CV is chrome, in a Maruader it is BLACK!

There is a 'factory freak' Marauder that someone posted (but I can't find) that got one black and one chrome bezel - and it's real obvious!

[CanadaMarauder]

Hey from BC. Get steelies and snowies for sure! I Have Michelin X-ice and Marauder did great in the snow this past year...Hope you pick it up and enjoy your new ride!

[Aren Jay]

The bezel around the headlight of a GM or CV is chrome, in a Maruader it is BLACK!

There is a 'factory freak' Marauder that someone posted (but I can't find) that got one black and one chrome bezel - and it's real obvious!


Does the DTR have a black bezel or a DTR bezel?

[Dr Caleb]

Does the DTR have a black bezel or a DTR bezel?

All Marauders regardless of colour have black bezels, IIRC. And Black Grills too, if I'm not mistaken.

[Aren Jay]

DTR's have DTR grills.

[magindat]

I wonder if the 'casing' around the headlight is actually the header panel. If so, and it's cracked, the whole header panel has to be replaced and to do that means taking apart the entire front end. It sounds to me like they thought they were in for a headlight and are now replacing a header panel.

If so, the MGM is the same as MM. The part would be painted independantly and assembled to the car, so at least there wouldn't be any fade lines where they 'blended' the paint....

[Dr Caleb]

DTR's have DTR grills.

Ahhh! So I don't recall correctly. I though there might be an exception to the black grill rule, but I thought it might have been Silver Birch.

[RCSignals]

Ahhh! So I don't recall correctly. I though there might be an exception to the black grill rule, but I thought it might have been Silver Birch.

the center vertical bars of the SB are painted black

[Aren Jay]

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[RCSignals]

That is much more than a headlight.
the fiberglas header panel is broken, bumpercover torn, and probably the radiator support bent
you should also check the oil cooler etc in front of the radiator

[jgc61sr2002]

I agree that is a lot of damage. At least 3 K in my opion and that is visable damage.:(

[SID210SA]

Mine kind of looked like that but on the other side....it was about 3,700 in dammage

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/9/4/3/accident002_thumb.jpg (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/showimage.php?i=7014&c=3&userid=3943)

My header panel was broke behind the headlight, they replace the bumper cover, radiator support, bumper absorber, headlight, side marker light, and some other items.

[SID210SA]

So how is "Toreador" pronounced?


I thought it was Terra-dore

[SID210SA]

All Marauders regardless of colour have black bezels, IIRC. And Black Grills too, if I'm not mistaken.

The other three colors came with the grille the same color as the car....Silver Birch was the only one that did not....rumour was that it would look like a racoon!

[Aren Jay]

The dealer selling my Maruader to me doesn't know the door keypad code. Would that be listed in the manual or would one need to have it reset?

[MM03MOK]

The dealer selling my Maruader to me doesn't know the door keypad code. Would that be listed in the manual or would one need to have it reset?

The keyless entry on any Ford product can be programmed with ANY 5-digit code. . So..... unless you forget your birthday, your anniversary, your lucky number, etc.... then there is NO reason to ever have to stand there and press a million buttons. It has been posted here several times - even a few times by me, that there is an easy way to get your master code if you do not know it. Taking off the driver inner door panel is simple and requires the most basic tools and only a partial brain stem. So, once again - please PM me with your email address if ANY OF YOU do not know your master code and I will happily email you the instructions with photos. Here's a lollipop now.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=481951

[Aren Jay]

I did a search this time, came up with nothing useful.

So do Canadian market Marauders have memory seats too?

[Dr Caleb]

So do Canadian market Marauders have memory seats too?

Nope. :( :(

[Aren Jay]

What is the horizontal button next to the power seat buttons then?

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/showimage.php?i=7815&c=3&userid=6983

[Dr Caleb]

What is the horizontal button next to the power seat buttons then?

That is not stock. Aftermarket memory seats? Aftermarket heated seats? Turbo Injection Hyperbolic Booster System?

[Aren Jay]

Ejection seats? But no sunroof.

[Dr Caleb]

Ejection seats are more effective that way.

Sure is a long thread for one question. :lol:

[Aren Jay]

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[RCSignals]

it's not a heated seats switch?

[Bluerauder]

it's not a heated seats switch?
Sure looks like it to me.

[Aren Jay]

I thought the heated seat switches were on the console?

[RCSignals]

the factory heated seat switch is on the door

do you have the car yet?

[Aren Jay]

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[Bluerauder]

Then I could tell you what the switches are for as of now I can't.
Here ya go ............ a pic of the door buttons. The one to the left of the seat back adjuster is the HEATED SEAT BUTTON. It's a toggle button. Toggle forward is max heat. Toggle back is the lower setting. Now you know.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/1/8/9/1/MarauderDoor.jpg

I don't understand all of this talk about sueing and diminished value. You only had a deposit on the car. It is not yours until you sign the paperwork and fork over the cash (or credit). Your option now is to BUY IT or NOT BUY IT (and get your deposit back if it was refundable). Your call D1 CC. :rolleyes:

[Dr Caleb]

I thought the heated seat switches were on the console?

Curious, I thought so too. On the centre console. 4 Years on, and I'm still learning about this car!

[Aren Jay]

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[RCSignals]

I've had a couple of cars transported. For each one I used an enclosed transporter with door to door service.
'Switch yards' don't come into the picture that way.

[Aren Jay]

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[Aren Jay]

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[Aren Jay]

I picked up my Marauder on Saturday.

Wow it really is a big car. It has the special sound and attracts alot of attention, particularly around mustangs. Floored it doing a lane change and scared myself, very unlike my Subaru. This car really does put a smile on your face. I'm still learning how to drive it. It was intransit and as such I could only take it home. Monday it goes in for inspection, will see how that works out. Hopefully everything is as good as it looks.

It barely fits in my garage. I'm going to have to put a mark on my canoe to get the parking just right. Next week is the inspection, passing that I need to sell my Subaru and then transfere the plate over. Then it is just me and my Marauder.

[Dr Caleb]

Hehe! Welcome to the club, finally!

[Aren Jay]

It's quite funny, It seems like I have graduated from a kids car, my Subie, to an adults car. Everything is bigger and with so much more space it just feels like I finally got a real car. I still need to figure out the best seat and pedal adjustments workout where all the guages and switches are but that will all come soon. Slowly switch from the AWD mode back to RWD driving and given how much larger it is where all the corners are.

I was thinking I might want to get a spoiler to help with knowing where the backend is for backing up but I might just get one of those rear view cameras instead, possibly with an upgraded headunit Display DVD etc...

That will have to wait till I have some money saved up though. Now I just need to pass the inspection and then register it. Tuesday or Wednesday I should be driving my Marauder no problem.

I also found the original window sticker for it, it says that it was sent to Edmonton but then shipped to Metro Ford Calgary. Now it is back home.

[Bluerauder]

Slowly switch from the AWD mode back to RWD driving and given how much larger it is where all the corners are.

One of those rare Marauders with AWD ?? :confused:

[Aren Jay]

NO sorry for the confusion. Switch from my driving mode for driving my not at all rare AWD Subaru Legacy to my driving mode for driving my rare RWD Marauder.

[Aren Jay]

That is it, Inspection is done plate is on, it is finally mine, I can drive it where and when I want, now only if I had somewhere to go.

Inspection said that the rear tires where down to 3/32, I need to get new rear tires. I've also noticed that when I start it first time it has a fair bit of black exhaust coming out. It clears up within 30 seconds and only happens the first time it is started. Mind you I have only started it fresh twice so far. Should I get something checked out?

These cars sure make a lot of :)'s.

[Dr Caleb]

Inspection said that the rear tires where down to 3/32, I need to get new rear tires. I've also noticed that when I start it first time it has a fair bit of black exhaust coming out. It clears up within 30 seconds and only happens the first time it is started. Mind you I have only started it fresh twice so far. Should I get something checked out?

These cars sure make a lot of :)'s.

Rear tires are hard to get, in the stock size. I just got a pair from Tire rack.

The black smoke on start issue is a known issue. Search here for many threads on it.

[Bluerauder]

The black smoke on start issue is a known issue. Search here for many threads on it.
I've heard of the Blue Smoke on start-up issue; but black ???

[Aren Jay]

I drive with prescription sunglasses on all the time.

Black blue dark something. It lasts 10 seconds.

I don't know what kind of gas was in it, I put good stuff in though.

It sat for almost a month.

I've started it two times so far.

I've floored it three times.

That is it, so far.

[Bluerauder]

It sat for almost a month.

I've started it two times so far.

I've floored it three times.

That is it, so far.
This ^^^^^ may be part of your problem. :rolleyes:

[chader]

don't worry about the smoke,it gives the car its originality...and how have you only been able to get by with only flooring it 3 times??PM me and we can hook up..I'm sure you will have floored it more then that after then!!

[Aren Jay]

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[chader]

it was a great day for it

[Aren Jay]

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