Sorry To Whom This May Offend!!!

[VAmarauder03]

Ima start this anger induced thread that I probably shouldnt even post with sorry if I offend anyone and it doesnt apply to all LEO's

I was on my way home from bringing home my girlfriend. Traveling down Hoadly road a mile away from home with my cruise control set to 45mph in a 45 zone. I did this specifically to avoid any incidents becuase i have bad luck in these situations. I see a cop sitting with ALL his lights turned off on the side of the road, he was running radar in a very common spot. As soon as I pass he pulls out behind me and I start thinking here we go the fun begins.:mad2: Half a mile later cruise control still engaged DEAD on 45 mph. The red and blue lights come on. Now most of you know speedometers in cars are designed to read a couple mph fast. I pull over at the first "safe" spot, maybe 100yds later. He walks up to the car and asks me if I know why he pulled me over. I said, "No sir, I dont." Attempting to be very polite as I was taught thats the best thing to do in this situation. He says well you were travelling 65 in a 45. I responded with "Im sorry sir, but I dont see how that is possible, I had my cruise control set at 45mph to avoid any mistakes as its late in the night and I am getting a little tired I didnt want to accidently pick up any speed." He says that I'm wrong. (funny because I dont remember him being in the car with me.) Right then I knew i was in for a good time:cool:. He comes back to my car and proceeds to tell me, "I know you were traveling at 65mph in a 45 because my radar says so, and I know its accurate because you hit your brakes and then you were going 52. (I NEVER hit my brakes till the red and blue lights appeared!!!) I tried to explain again that I had my cruise control on and I never hit the brakes till he turned his lights on to pull me over and he cut me off with " SON THIS ISNT A DISCUSSION!!!"

Even at this point Im boiling mad, wishing that cops were still people that the community could trust in, not just grown up bullies that were given a gun and a badge. But I tried to remain calm and just let it go.

He then repeatedly asks me if the 'rauder is my car implieing that he didnt believe me. Getting at the fact that I couldnt possible be 19 and afford this vehicle. I have a career the allows me to pay for this car. Mommy and daddy dont pay for it, I bust my ass day in and day out, losing blood and sweat to afford this car.

He then asks me what drugs and weapons I had in my car, whether it was pot or coke that I was dealing, whether it was guns or knives I was carrying. I said " No sir there are no illegal substances or weapons in my car." And he asks me yet again what I have in the car.

I have two tattoos one of them is on my wrists, its in memory of my grandfather, who was one of the most important and influential people in my life, he passed away in November of 06. I take things involving him very personally. The second is on the back of my triceps, It reads "Laugh Now" one side and "Cry Later" on the other. I have this tattoo as a reminder of to keep my head up when things get bad, that and it reminds me that I can always laugh now but I might pay for it later. A reminder to try to make good decisions. Youll understand why im saying this in a second.

He cuts me off with an attitude again and then proceeds to tell me "You're tatted up(those are his exact words) are those gang tats?!?!?" I tried to tell him no but he cut me off again and he asks me what gang I'm in, in a very accusing fashion. I finally got the opportunity to explain that my tattoo is in memory of my grandfather who passed away. By this point Im ready to explode. But what happened next could have sent me over the edge. He just laughed at the tattoo in memory of my grandfather. I take that very personal and it was very insulting. That someone would accuse me of being in a gang because of a tattoo in memory of someone who helped raise me and wasnt affraid to turn me over his knee when I did somethin wrong. But he was always there to defend me if need be.

I am sorry to whomever may read this and be bothered but it is seriously disgusting when the same people who we rely on to catch murders and rapist and protect us and our homes are immature ignorant *******S such as this officer, I have met 3 cops in my life that have been honest people. The rest are just the kids that got picked on in high school or the school bully that was to stupid to get into college. Not all LEO's out there are this way, I HOPE...but im beggining to have my doubts, this is not the first second or third run in like this that I have had where I have been falsely accused or harassed. My trust in the police is running thin now and it bothers me that its like this. He didnt stop to realize I was driving a MARAUDER not a pimped out crown vic or Mercury GM. He profiled it to be a drug dealers car, and then profiled me to be a gang banger. And those that have met me I think can and will attest to the fact that I dont look like a gang banger or a drug dealer, I think I would get laughed out of that scene. I am seriously digusted with what Prince Williams "FINEST" have turned into. Its other departments as well. After all who just killed 6 people? I believe that was a young ignorant kid with a gun and a badge wasnt it? I do everything I can give to ever Officer a fair chance at proving the last one wrong and showing they are good people, and this isnt directed and any LEO's on here, but my trust is running low and it is a very sad day that when the same people that are sworn to proctect and serve are the ones I can trust. Some of you will tell me im leaving something out that the cops would never do that but I am leaving nothing out, this really happened, which is why Im so bothered. If I did somethin to get this then thats fine I can live with that but all I wanted to do was get home and off the road.

I would like to end this with I may only be posting this becuase Im young and dumb or have alot to learn but Its getting posted for two reasons, one i want to vent and who better to vent to than you guys!!!:rolleyes::P the other is I think its sad that events like this happen... I am sorry if I offended anyone and I hope they dont take it personal as there are SOME good cops left out there, besides if your a cop and you drive a MM you gotta be a good one lol;) Just be carefule out there guys, give ZERO reason for you to be the next one that has to be pulled over and put up with this.

[Pat]

First, did you get a ticket, you didn't say.

Second, sounds like you were being baited and many guilty people make mistakes when under pressure. The LEO doesn't know you from squat his questions are desiged to rattle your cage and also to verify info, such as "is this your car?", yes, but the registration is not in your name, stolen? and so forth.

Third, did the LEO ask to look in your trunk, that's SOP around here.

Fourth, some communities fund their operations with traffic tickets, warranted or not, and easy marks, alone and "late at night" are ensnared.

If you did get a ticket then you have a court procedure that you can utilize but I don't think it will do much good. Think of this as a sort of road tax and it's your turn to pay.

Now, that's off your chest, you should feel better.

Carry on.

[Hacklemerc]

As a LEO, you didn't offend me. I know there are bad cops out there. I apolize to you for that officers conduct. Its important for me to treat all people with the same amount of respect until they prove they are not worth it. THe first time some one M--- F---'s me all respect is out the door. But I digress. Even though I use it everytime I go to work, Radar is not that accurate. Its only as accurate as the last time it was calibrated.
Now as for the guns and drugs question.. I ask everyone that. " DO you have any guns, drugs, knives, or dead midgets in the car?" you would be surprised on how the dead midgets part throws people off and they tell you "I don't have any dead midgets but I have weed in the glove box" Depending on the area you were in gang activity might be really prevalent that might explain the questions about the tattoos. We have areas in my city that are renowned for drug, and gang activity. So naturally when we stop someone in that area our suspicion level goes up.

I would just like to remind people that even though we are Police Officers, we are people. Just like you and your friends. We have our good days and our bad days. THis is in no way an excuse for negative behavior that some officers engage in. We recently gave a DUI to a local sherriffs deputy, he blew .238. I felt bad for him, but I was more disappointed in the fact that he put us in that situation. I would like to reiterate that we are people just like everyone else.

He was probably Pissed because he didn't own a Marauder anyway.

Once again my apology for that officers behavior.

[DOOM]

What An *********!!! You Did A Better Job Than I Would Have. I Dont Have The Patience For That. My Hat Is Off To You. Good Job. He Was Probally Pissed Because You Own A Nicer Car Than He Has.

[knine]

+3 on the car. He was probabally mad that yours was better. As a LEO, you got one having a bad day there, if he's an older one you don't make it that long with that type of attitude. I got stopped once because my MM looked like a "whooptie vehicle". Now what the he ll is a whooptie vehicle? I think he was just jealeous of your car.

[VAmarauder03]

First, did you get a ticket, you didn't say.

Second, sounds like you were being baited and many guilty people make mistakes when under pressure. The LEO doesn't know you from squat his questions are desiged to rattle your cage and also to verify info, such as "is this your car?", yes, but the registration is not in your name, stolen? and so forth.

Third, did the LEO ask to look in your trunk, that's SOP around here.

Fourth, some communities fund their operations with traffic tickets, warranted or not, and easy marks, alone and "late at night" are ensnared.

If you did get a ticket then you have a court procedure that you can utilize but I don't think it will do much good. Think of this as a sort of road tax and it's your turn to pay.

Now, that's off your chest, you should feel better.

Carry on.

no ticket, because iwasnt speeding and if i was goin 20 over i damn sure woulda got a ticket, my
registration IS in my name. I told him he could look any where he pleases and wouldnt find squat.

[Zack]

File a complaint, this could be common behavior for him.

[VAmarauder03]

As a LEO, you didn't offend me. I know there are bad cops out there. I apolize to you for that officers conduct. Its important for me to treat all people with the same amount of respect until they prove they are not worth it. THe first time some one M--- F---'s me all respect is out the door. But I digress. Even though I use it everytime I go to work, Radar is not that accurate. Its only as accurate as the last time it was calibrated.
Now as for the guns and drugs question.. I ask everyone that. " DO you have any guns, drugs, knives, or dead midgets in the car?" you would be surprised on how the dead midgets part throws people off and they tell you "I don't have any dead midgets but I have weed in the glove box" Depending on the area you were in gang activity might be really prevalent that might explain the questions about the tattoos. We have areas in my city that are renowned for drug, and gang activity. So naturally when we stop someone in that area our suspicion level goes up.

I would just like to remind people that even though we are Police Officers, we are people. Just like you and your friends. We have our good days and our bad days. THis is in no way an excuse for negative behavior that some officers engage in. We recently gave a DUI to a local sherriffs deputy, he blew .238. I felt bad for him, but I was more disappointed in the fact that he put us in that situation. I would like to reiterate that we are people just like everyone else.

He was probably Pissed because he didn't own a Marauder anyway.

Once again my apology for that officers behavior.

I understand the drugs and weapons question is regular procedure but he wouldnt let it go with my answer he was almost pushing me to do something or freak out so he had a reason to do somethin because i hadnt given him one yet...

[VAmarauder03]

What An *********!!! You Did A Better Job Than I Would Have. I Dont Have The Patience For That. My Hat Is Off To You. Good Job. He Was Probally Pissed Because You Own A Nicer Car Than He Has.

I had no choice but to handle the best possible way, this is the exact reason i bought this car and sold my cobra... becuase i would get followed for miles in my cobra and profiled as a street racer even when i was behaving myself. I bought this car to avoid all this attention and hassle and now it just seems ive been placed in the category of gang banger or coke dealer instead of street racer....

and zack i would love to file a complain but trust me when i tell you it will do NO good around here...they just say well we will look into or some other b.s. line....

[SamF]

Pulled over...questioned....no ticket issued. What's the problem? If you feel you were profiled and treated poorly, file a complaint, hire a lawyer and see where it goes.

If not...chalk it it to one of many life experiences, move on and don't waste any more energy on it...Maybe he's a bad apple...or...maybe he just had a bad day and you crossed paths, that happens.

[magindat]

File a complaint, this could be common behavior for him.

I agree, however, if you live in the same town he patrols and you complain, you'll become his target. Ask me how I know....

[VAmarauder03]

I was 5 minutes away from home, it took me an hour before i was home. I've seen this cop around before, like i said theres no point, itll just create more greif on my behalf, nothing will happen to him, and i will become a target as you said

[SID210SA]

File a complaint, this could be common behavior for him.


Pulled over...questioned....no ticket issued. What's the problem? If you feel you were profiled and treated poorly, file a complaint, hire a lawyer and see where it goes.

If not...chalk it it to one of many life experiences, move on and don't waste any more energy on it...Maybe he's a bad apple...or...maybe he just had a bad day and you crossed paths, that happens.


I agree, however, if you live in the same town he patrols and you complain, you'll become his target. Ask me how I know....

On one hand I would say file a complaint.....if enough people do then something has got to be up with this " so called officer ", and they cant ignore that.....
on the other hand.....I can see being targeted by him or some of his misinformed buddies.....keep a tape recorder in the car if you make a complaint....heck even if you dont.....keep one in there.

As stated above.....LEO's are people too....they have their bad days just like anyone else....shouldnt be an excuse when you are in public service, but it happens.

But he didn't give you a ticket which means he may have some morals, and is not totally dishonest.

[MERCMAN]

Did he have a video camera in the car? If so get a lawyer and request the video. :)

[Bigdogjim]

Suck it up and tuff it out.

Life goes on.:)

[Krytin]

I like the tape recorder idea - just in case this guy does have a problem with you personally. With any luck you will never need it but better to have it and not need it than need it it and not have it!

[kariamack]

I know what u mean ...being young and having a car like this is hard for us...it happens to me all the time........

[mtenderenda]

I live in a nice area with my girlfriend..We have a police facility behind me..They use the place to shoot there guns..They have time slots as to when they can shoot. One weekend we have company over, we are on the deck having a good time...Then all of a sudden loud gun shots, it was coming from the facility. Two marked cars, while on duty, was at the facility, with a friend..
I decided to write down the numbers of the cars... The same day i went over to the Police department..I was lucky enough to talk to the officer that was in charge of the facility. I told him exactly what happened...And at the same time I showed him my brothers PBA card, that I have for life..Since that day its been quiet..You have to have the right credentials to get something done, and that really sucks....So I understand how you feel.

[OneBADLsE]

I dont believe you will have offended anyone here.


I sympathize with your story because i got pulled over for doing 29 in a 30. He wrote it as i was going 42 in a 30. Bastard. Plus, i was as kind as one could be. Ask anyone who has met me on this board...im not a jerkoff by any means. Im very respectful.

That was the only time i EVER EVER EVER got a ticket for something i didnt do. Any Long island Newyorker's will know the area im talking about...Its Asharoken.

Also, visit COPSWHOWRITECOPS.COM - This site will give you an idea of who, and where the true scumbags really are

[sailsmen]

File a complaint, this could be common behavior for him.

+1, bet your grandfather would have filed a comlaint!

[magindat]

+1, bet your grandfather would have filed a comlaint!

Ouch! That was harsh. I can tell you my grandfather (in a time before 2-way radios) would have just kicked his ass right then and there.

[Bluerauder]

Ima start this anger induced thread that I probably shouldnt even post with sorry if I offend anyone and it doesnt apply to all LEO's.
VAMarauder03,

45 mph on Hoadly Road?? …. That’s suspicious in itself. I travel Hoadly Road pretty frequently and if I have ever done 45, it was on my way to 55. ;)

Sorry to hear of your problem and can understand your view. However, I would like to offer a slightly different perspective. The police force in Prince William County is one of the most professional that I have ever seen. And as you probably know, they have a tough job particularly with respect to drugs, weapons, gangs and the huge explosion of illegals in the county. Read the police blotter in the local paper and see that 90% of the drug and weapons offenses listed are the direct result of traffic stops. They must be doing something right ‘cause they are catching folks who are breaking the law. From my perspective, that’s a good thing. It is unfortunate that you got caught up in the net …. But heck, it’s bound to happen sometime. Believe it or not, the county is safer because of the PW County police. Maybe the guy who stopped you had an attitude … maybe not.

Did you know that PW County offers a Citizen’s Police Academy? You can attend. It is free to county residents. All you have to do is ask to attend and be willing to devote 2 hours each week in the evening for about 10 weeks. My son (now 24) attended the CPA about 3 years ago and said it was one of the best and most informative things that he has done. You get a healthy dose of perspective from the PWC police leadership, meet with Chief Charlie Dean personally, talk to the Captains, shift sergeants, and patrol officers. You’ll even meet the Sheriff and some of his deputies and learn what they do. You will see the Police Academy first hand, see the recruits in action/training. You will visit the firing range and go through situational training (role playing) on traffic stops, domestic disturbances, and tense situations. And, you will get to do a “ride-along” on a full 8 hour shift to see some of what these guys do every day and every night. At the end of your 10 weeks, you will receive a diploma of completion (first class and framed with the PWC patch), a CPA T-shirt and an opportunity to join the CPA alumni association of all the past graduates. Maybe this is an opportunity to see this in a different light. PM or call me if you have questions.

Back to the situation at hand.

Shortly after I got my Marauder, I “got on it pretty good” leaving a stop light on the PW Parkway. Short version … I was gunned at 65 in a 45. Radar was right on the money. No ticket just a warning and a brief conversation about Marauders and speeding. The officer cut me a break because he noticed my retired military ID card in my wallet as I was getting my driver’s license out. I was lucky. Of course, I am pretty sure that I don’t even come close to fitting any particular criminal demographic. Unfortunately, you do. Again, read the papers and see the number of 18-25 year olds picked up. Coincidence?? Maybe …. Maybe not.

No one that I know uses cruise control to maintain 45 mph. Apparently you do. I find cruise control in an area with traffic lights (like on Hoadly) to be a nuisance. If I have used cruise control on the MM twice in 4 years, I’d be surprised.

Hoadly Road, Old Bridge Road, Dale Boulevard, PW Parkway and Route 234 are main “trouble points” in the county. Traffic stops on these routes yield bonus results in drugs, weapons or gang related charges. Between 12 Midnight and 3 AM is prime fishing time. Read the local papers and you’ll see. Attend the Citizen’s Police Academy and maybe you’ll find out why.

Sorry for the long rant. Also sorry that you got caught up in the net. We’ve met only once; but you seem like a good guy. Don’t let this one incident color your perspective too much. Hope to see you at the next CAM meet and we can talk more if you wish.

[ckadiddle]

I got pulled over a while back, I was doing 25 in a 30 mph zone. I was being carefull. However, I was driving my MM hoopty into an area generally known for high crime and streetcorner pharmaceutical representatives. (I was on my way to my Dad and brother's house which is located ten miles past there.) My windows are lightly tinted, I have lousy eyes and had the dark tint that was present when I bought it removed. I suspect that MMs look like pimped up crown vics to the uninformed officers, especially if you have dark window tint. I do see a lot of them around here. Supposedly he (the officer) dyslexed the letters in my tag and it came back as belonging on a trailer of some sort. When I got where I was going, my brother was of the opinion that most certainly I was profiled. White dude driving expensive car into primarily black neighborhood drug area to get some illicit substances.

I don't know which is true.

Definitely more likely to find dead midget in my car than drugs or guns though. ;)

[03mara300b]

I started to read your story and thought " You were speeding" ,then I saw you are in northern Virginia. That explains it. I used to live in Fairfax county, and was pulled over in my Mustang for every little thing , and that was 20 years ago. I have been pulled over once in 12 years after moving from Virginia.

[Marauderjack]

Maybe he was real disappointed you weren't the young woman he planned to hit on???:eek:

They (he) can stop you anytime for anything they can dream up...especially if no ticket was written!!:cool:

He was probably just lonely!!??:shake:

Marauderjack:burnout:

[musclemerc]

This practice is well known to any African American it's called DWB (driving while black). And @35 in a MM i still get this treatment. Your lucky he did'nt pull out his night stick and CLUB YOU!!!:shake:

[OO91]

To some people, being a LEO is just another job and a way to seek revenge on society. They dont see the honor in the profession, and they are the ones who give LEOs a bad name. Thats why I dont want to be one anymore.

A similar situation happened to me when I was about 15 and hanging out with skateboarders. The cop was extremely unprofessional and swearing, and he grabbed a friend of mine. Little did he know that my dad was his boss. That guy later screwed around some more, left our department, and I dont think that he is a cop anymore.

Most civillians dont realize how stressful and hard it is to be a cop, and even more dont understand some of the tactics that we have to (or choose to) use.

[VAmarauder03]

VAMarauder03,

45 mph on Hoadly Road?? …. That’s suspicious in itself. I travel Hoadly Road pretty frequently and if I have ever done 45, it was on my way to 55. ;)

Sorry to hear of your problem and can understand your view. However, I would like to offer a slightly different perspective. The police force in Prince William County is one of the most professional that I have ever seen. And as you probably know, they have a tough job particularly with respect to drugs, weapons, gangs and the huge explosion of illegals in the county. Read the police blotter in the local paper and see that 90% of the drug and weapons offenses listed are the direct result of traffic stops. They must be doing something right ‘cause they are catching folks who are breaking the law. From my perspective, that’s a good thing. It is unfortunate that you got caught up in the net …. But heck, it’s bound to happen sometime. Believe it or not, the county is safer because of the PW County police. Maybe the guy who stopped you had an attitude … maybe not.

Did you know that PW County offers a Citizen’s Police Academy? You can attend. It is free to county residents. All you have to do is ask to attend and be willing to devote 2 hours each week in the evening for about 10 weeks. My son (now 24) attended the CPA about 3 years ago and said it was one of the best and most informative things that he has done. You get a healthy dose of perspective from the PWC police leadership, meet with Chief Charlie Dean personally, talk to the Captains, shift sergeants, and patrol officers. You’ll even meet the Sheriff and some of his deputies and learn what they do. You will see the Police Academy first hand, see the recruits in action/training. You will visit the firing range and go through situational training (role playing) on traffic stops, domestic disturbances, and tense situations. And, you will get to do a “ride-along” on a full 8 hour shift to see some of what these guys do every day and every night. At the end of your 10 weeks, you will receive a diploma of completion (first class and framed with the PWC patch), a CPA T-shirt and an opportunity to join the CPA alumni association of all the past graduates. Maybe this is an opportunity to see this in a different light. PM or call me if you have questions.

Back to the situation at hand.

Shortly after I got my Marauder, I “got on it pretty good” leaving a stop light on the PW Parkway. Short version … I was gunned at 65 in a 45. Radar was right on the money. No ticket just a warning and a brief conversation about Marauders and speeding. The officer cut me a break because he noticed my retired military ID card in my wallet as I was getting my driver’s license out. I was lucky. Of course, I am pretty sure that I don’t even come close to fitting any particular criminal demographic. Unfortunately, you do. Again, read the papers and see the number of 18-25 year olds picked up. Coincidence?? Maybe …. Maybe not.

No one that I know uses cruise control to maintain 45 mph. Apparently you do. I find cruise control in an area with traffic lights (like on Hoadly) to be a nuisance. If I have used cruise control on the MM twice in 4 years, I’d be surprised.

Hoadly Road, Old Bridge Road, Dale Boulevard, PW Parkway and Route 234 are main “trouble points” in the county. Traffic stops on these routes yield bonus results in drugs, weapons or gang related charges. Between 12 Midnight and 3 AM is prime fishing time. Read the local papers and you’ll see. Attend the Citizen’s Police Academy and maybe you’ll find out why.

Sorry for the long rant. Also sorry that you got caught up in the net. We’ve met only once; but you seem like a good guy. Don’t let this one incident color your perspective too much. Hope to see you at the next CAM meet and we can talk more if you wish.

I understand your veiw wich is why i try to give every officer a fair chance before i judge him as being another jerk or a nice guy... more often than not i have been let down. You may rarely use your cruise control but I also know that I just got done dealing with a moving violation that could have cost me my career, I wanted no room for error and no reason to be pulled over, esp at that time of night knowin i just wanted to be home becuase i had to be at work at 7. I use cruise control more than I ever have because this is really my first automatic car and I find it very easy to ind up at 10 over without realizing it...I dont need any kind of trouble like this. Thats why i sold my cobra and bought this car. Because I needed to keep myself in line. I had my cruise control set at 45 on purpose so i could avoid this kind of incident on purpose

[VAmarauder03]

This practice is well known to any African American it's called DWB (driving while black). And @35 in a MM i still get this treatment. Your lucky he did'nt pull out his night stick and CLUB YOU!!!:shake:

Does hand on gun with the holster unclipped count?

[Dr Caleb]

Third, did the LEO ask to look in your trunk, that's SOP around here.


Standard here too. Standard answer is 'no'. Not to be uncooperative, but once the question 'Do you know why I pulled you over?' is answered, he won't find more evidence of speeding in my trunk. Or back seat, or glove box . . .

My Constitutional rights against search and seizure outweigh his fishing expedition.


I agree, however, if you live in the same town he patrols and you complain, you'll become his target. Ask me how I know....

I know too. Right up to the Staff Sgt. Invest in some video equipment (front, rear and pointing at the speedo), and some voice recording devices. Crown Prosecutors (YMMV) love video evidence.

We respect the RCMP greatly, and don't put up with 'dirty' cops around here.

[sailsmen]

An example fo professional treatment.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=24754&page=2

[airborne_mp84]

I cant even count how many times i got pulled over in my MM... like dr doom said good job in handlling the situation at hand..some leo's dont know how to handle all that power, so they tend to abuse it..next time get a badge number and make a complaint...take a look at the ten amendments and learn them..and leo's knows his limitations in an traffic stop, just be polite and compliant as you were.. as soon as he violates one of those amendments especially the 4th one you ve got him right were you want him...as you know i am an LEO just want to say again good job man and keep your head up....

[BAD MERC]

I take great offense to this story. Every consonant and vowel rippled up my spine to my fragile brain. Just kidding, I am just mocking a select few here. What a story, unfortunately - pretty common. You get a guy on a powertrip with a fast car, some pretty lights and a gun and all of a sudden - he is the sandbox badass (Offended???..... anyone.....?) Okay, I work with cops day and night and pretty much all of them have eaten at my house and seen me in a towel. I cannot relate to that but I have been really lucky since I have not even been looked at funny in my Marauder in two years.

[musclemerc]

Does hand on gun with the holster unclipped count?No that dose'nt count because they normally point the gun at you after your on the ground and after their foot is on the back or your neck because you fit the discription of a suspect!:P

[CRUZTAKER]

(he)....is not totally dishonest.

That totally reassures me.:P

[da'law]

this month and I am never amazed at the arrogance of a fellow LEO. I have come to classify them into 2 categories: Gears Heads whom would have pulled you over to talk about your ride and only ticketed you for extreme misbehaving and Dick Heads, well enough said there. I work for a medium large dept and I am constantly butting heads with the Dick Head portion. I am just a little more patient then they are and I believe what goes around comes around. I don't need to rat them out, some how the end up doing themselves and it is fun to watch.

Sit tight, he will tick off the wrong person on a stop and the next time you will see him jocking a desk or standing at the school crossing.

You handled it well, and I never take offense to anything. Go ahead and get off you chest, that is what this forum is for and whom better to listen than us.

[GordonB]

FWIW -- another low speed technique to use without engaging CRUISE Control, is to place gear shift in 3. I often do this in a 35 or 40 mph zone (or lower) just to keep the tranny helping me without breaking.

Have any of you heard of Corvette envy? It is similar to driving an MM as a younger person and gets similar results from the police. I have encountered Fort Meade MP on RT 32 & I'm going 57 and accused of going 85(!), MD Transportation Authority police for obscured front tag I-95 south of Tunnel; Frederick MD Sherrif's deputy running my tags in the rain in the dark (via keyboard!) on Rt 15-- all of these things happened when I am going the exact speed limit in the Right Hand lane of multi-lane roads and my wife is riding with me. We are NOT teeny bopers, but we don't look like grandpa and grandma either. Oh well, Just be nice and then figure out how to protect yourself for future encounters, which will happen!
GordonB

[VAmarauder03]

To everyone and esp the LEO's, thanks for the support and not taking offense, just goes to show the great people we have on this forum.


I take great offense to this story. Every consonant and vowel rippled up my spine to my fragile brain. Just kidding, I am just mocking a select few here. What a story, unfortunately - pretty common. You get a guy on a powertrip with a fast car, some pretty lights and a gun and all of a sudden - he is the sandbox badass (Offended???..... anyone.....?) Okay, I work with cops day and night and pretty much all of them have eaten at my house and seen me in a towel. I cannot relate to that but I have been really lucky since I have not even been looked at funny in my Marauder in two years.

I only noticed one problem with your post, you said they had fast cars, i dunno bout you but IMO your everyday cruiser isnt terrible quick nor fast;)



No that dose'nt count because they normally point the gun at you after your on the ground and after their foot is on the back or your neck because you fit the discription of a suspect!:P

is this before or after they hit your head on their car while they search you?:P



That totally reassures me.:P

I dunno bout you but it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside:rolleyes:

Thanks again guys nice to know that all LEO's arent like this guy, on a side note though, while thinking over last nights events i think i figured out what this guys problem is, its a syndrome I commonly refer to as Napoleon Syndrome, hes just compensating for his inadequacies, afterall if I were no more than 5'4'' tall (5'5" depending on the shoes) Id feel pretty inadequate too lol, just kidding...maybe

[Peace2Peep]

Yeah...this sucks! I find that every so often I end up with an idiot cop...I just dont say anything when they question me. I just go ahead and clam up and nod my head or shake it no...just hand them the stuff they ask for. You see, you have the right to remain silent.

[knine]

Thanks again guys nice to know that all LEO's arent like this guy, on a side note though, while thinking over last nights events i think i figured out what this guys problem is, its a syndrome I commonly refer to as Napoleon Syndrome, hes just compensating for his inadequacies, afterall if I were no more than 5'4'' tall (5'5" depending on the shoes) Id feel pretty inadequate too lol, just kidding...maybe
BINGO !! Aye, there's the rub. I knew a guy that was sooooooooo sensitive about his height that anytime it came up, he treated EVERYONE like crap, and he was a LEO.

[Marauder386]

If I am running stationary radar, to get clear and cincise readings, my vehicle needs to be in these conditions...HVAC off, windshield wipers off or it reads these and gives me false stats. I have to to a reset and power check, then use my tuning forks to verify the unit. These resonate at 35 mph and another at 65 mph. Then I can start monitoring. I need to have tone emitting from the radar on its target then a visual estimate and then a lock on the target. If I am able, I try to do this a MINIMUM of two times on the target before I then began the pursuit/tail in preparation to initiating the stop.

Variables from previous info: If HVAC is on, unit will read its fan speed...wipers will give the same results. If I do not calibrate my unit, every time I change position or mode ( stationary or moving ) its accuracy is questionable...and thats my opinion.

Placing myself in your situation, as you described, I wouldnt have stopped you since I would have ( probably ) observed you traveling at a steady 45mph in a 45mph zone...so obviously steady that it shows me you have your cruise control on. I might have stopped you only because it was another Marauder and would have just had a friendly chat and exchange of info on websites, clubs, parts etc., for our cars.

In closing, I really cant bring myself to apologize for that officers conduct. I would be giving him and extra day off ( without pay ) for his conduct after I, as his supervisor, reviewed his vehicle dashcam/audio video....


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[TiTo35]

"I am seriously digusted with what Prince Williams "FINEST" have turned into."

I dont know you, but I have had a run in with..."prince williams finest." I am not even going to get into the incident, but yea I know how you feel!

I can only assume your race...Lawd knows thats a factor in VA all the way around. But be safe out there and let them know they wasting their time pulling over the good people, while bad folks are lurking.

[ParkRanger]

Hey, he's checking the traffic in his beat - that's his job.
For the same nickel it could have been a vehicle with dope, driver with warrants, stolen car, etc. that he takes out of society.
You went through a little inconvenience for a guy who risks his life everyday so you can sleep in peace. This happens to all of us and may happen again to you. Like someone said earlier - suck it up and move on.

PR :burnout:

[Bluerauder]

"I can only assume your race...Lawd knows thats a factor in VA all the way around.
And you would be wrong ... :P

[merc6]

"I am seriously digusted with what Prince Williams "FINEST" have turned into."

I dont know you, but I have had a run in with..."prince williams finest." I am not even going to get into the incident, but yea I know how you feel!

I can only assume your race...Lawd knows thats a factor in VA all the way around. But be safe out there and let them know they wasting their time pulling over the good people, while bad folks are lurking.

Could be PG "Finest". PW doesn't really bother me. It's the ffx cars that were al black with tinted windows that folowed me like 10 mins (no play witrh words) one day. I caught on after taking 5 left turns aand he was still there. Normaly when you tail someone you don't run the already red light to cetch up eh? I remember the days I would get in truouble for taking short cuts thru the lawn or medians when chasing someone down. Miss those days :) Every now and then I did run into the gearhead as discribed above. The original stop was illegal tint in alex va near 4 mile run and everyone local knows my mm had texas tags for like 2 + years. He ended up just bs'ing with me for like a few mins after finding out what I did for a living and let me go.

[VAmarauder03]

And you would be wrong ... :P


that he would be lol, i think the common phrase for that comment would be you know what happens when you assume right? makes an ass out of you and me....:P

[VAmarauder03]

Hey, he's checking the traffic in his beat - that's his job.
For the same nickel it could have been a vehicle with dope, driver with warrants, stolen car, etc. that he takes out of society.
You went through a little inconvenience for a guy who risks his life everyday so you can sleep in peace. This happens to all of us and may happen again to you. Like someone said earlier - suck it up and move on.

PR :burnout:

you can check warrants and so on and so forth by running my tags....the little inconvenience could have been minimized and didnt have to include him antagonizing me and telling me ima a gang banger